Zito’s trade analogy: ‘The Leafs have 4 Maserati’s, they need an SUV’ | Overdrive Hour 2 | 07/22/24

Bryan Hayes and Gord Miller are joined by ESPN Hockey analyst and co-host of the Ray and Dregs podcast Ray Ferraro to discuss Florida Panthers GM Bill Zito’s analogy on how to build a Stanley Cup winning team and why you might lose a trade on paper but win it when it comes to team success, why executives of team fall in love with the players they draft, trade for or sign, why teams can’t win if their small on the blue line and more. They also discuss Xander Schauffele winning The Open Championship, Rory McIlroy’s tough week, the aura of Tiger Woods and more. They also test the Rory Probability Meter where they debate which is more likely, Rory Mcilroy wins another Major next year or other scenarios in the sports world. | Overdrive Hour 2 | 07/22/24

[@andrewaugustine1494]

Been listening to the same conversation for years

[@WoundedWarrior77]

It’s time we focus more on our hobbies 😅

[@tdunph4250]

Hayes is excellent at his craft.

[@HandShakeLineRespect]

Marner is a Maserati made out of Marshmallows wrapped in tissue paper.

[@macleanclassics]

Nylander already has the marshmallow nickname in my circle , going on a couple years now. Delicious, but very soft and will often give you a stomach ache

[@angrydalailama6089]

So Mitch is a Chrysler TC? 😂😂😂 Look that up if you're unfamiliar.

[@gordonbgraham]

@@macleanclassics Nylander missed 3 playoff games with a headache. Marner gutted out a high ankle sprain

[@macleanclassics]

@@gordonbgraham I know Nylander is soft but, I'll defend him on the migraine thing... I've recently been getting them related to a sleep issue.... and wow, there's no way, I'd be able to play through them... blurry vision , ice pick to the back of the head feeling, and very debilitating, even strong smells " hurt".

[@gordonbgraham]

@@macleanclassics He switched to a tinted visor before the season began because of them...then the Leafs gave him 11.5M and he missed 3 playoff games. Not a very prudent move signing a guy who may or not be able to play come playoffs. Think of what they Leafs could have done on D with that money. Crap move

[@mcmurtersportsupdate7171]

Ray Ferraro is my favorite analyst who frequently calls into your show. Such a great hockey mind.

[@topperharley7892]

💯

[@coreyk5536]

Gord drives Hayes nuts, body language is hilarious lmao

[@michaelmeschino9710]

I don’t think Tavares is a Maserati at this point in his career lol

[@sebastiencarrieres8825]

He is! But a 1967 one. Nice to show off, but you don't really ride it.

[@NoMoreBlindRefs]

Nah.....more like a Lada.

[@NOSSCARSeriesRacing]

He's more like a Camaro from the early 2000s nowadays 😄

[@4602experience]

Haven’t producers realized people don’t want sensationalism and contrived arguments. Fans just want knowledgeable people talking sport. That’s why some pedestrian YT channels have waaaaay more subscribers than big sport outlets

[@jimlangdon1947]

None of the Leafs Core 4 are Maseratis - not even Matthews the playoff disappointment centre. 😀

[@Droz75]

I'm glad Treliving has recognized the mistakes made by Dubas and is working to add size to the Leafs' blue line. A NASCAR car can do a lot of damage to an Indy car.

[@NOSSCARSeriesRacing]

Good point and good analogy 👍🏁

[@MultiBrodeur]

What are they talking about? Forget the poor person’s Ferrari, Leafs needs Tanks and jeeps to battle in playoffs.

[@logan9758]

Leafs need a ford mustang-Marner Explorer-Tavares F150-Matthews F350-Nylander 😂😂 hell nah Mustang provides speed Explorer provides a bergeron like presence F150 provides a star forward F350 is a Tkachuk

[@dangraesser5341]

The entire organization of the leafs is fkn Charmin!!!

[@rickrobitaille8809]

Gord Miller unplugged 🔥✔🇨🇦😂

[@rickrobitaille8809]

Gord Miller huge Edmonton Oilers fan ✔🇨🇦😁

[@Marixa1979]

Deep down, everyone is an Oilers fan, as they should be.

[@rickrobitaille8809]

Ray Ferraro effect 😂✔🇨🇦

[@RedNazFM]

Maserati literally sells not one but two SUVs, although that depends on your definition of SUVs. As someone who really does not like the leafs at all, the core 4 need also to be "SUVs" if they want to get anywhere in the playoffs

[@jordanstreib3898]

I think in future exspecially US kids/stars will treat NHL like NBA. Short term deals cause cap will always go up or they want most money can,weather,taxes,ect about a players brand not the team or winning stanley cup. Youll have big names moving whenever they want like Harden,Durant,Westbrook whoever and only way lock players up is instead of bridge offer a longer term on potential and security.

[@Ramitupyourkilt]

Tough playing Allstars hockey in the playoffs, lol!

[@iainmore3961]

SUV? Leafs need a few tractors and a combine harvester. Guys If it is cold and windy in Mid July in Scotland it means you dont have suffer the midges.

[@rickrobitaille8809]

Effective now🇨🇦🇺🇸😂

[@rickrobitaille8809]

Welcome back Hayes ✔🇨🇦😁

[@thomasstephens7293]

How does this team improve? I predict injury trouble, a bad trade at the deadline and yeah, you know the rest...

[@rickrobitaille8809]

Great story miller😁✔🇨🇦

[@oldhab7890]

Why is the Toronto press still talking about a Marner trade. It is not going to happen, Find another topic.

[@chadkivisto2345]

I have been saying this analogy for years!

[@Matt-gt6be]

Captain Bedsheets 💪

[@rickrobitaille8809]

Fired up no excuses 😁✔🇨🇦

[@joncakefilm]

You can drive Maseratis in the snow. Leafs didn’t win the Stanley Cup bc of the Maseratis. They lost because they were out coached and substandard goal tending.

[@rickrobitaille8809]

These are cars that get stuck on bubblegum sometimes 😂🔥🇨🇦🇺🇸✔

[@haysbrickell9579]

I'm not much of a fan of Marner or of the Leafs in general, for that manner. In my opinion, they have problems that go well beyond any short comings, real or imagined, that Marner might have.

[@rickrobitaille8809]

Im short everyone is a monster effect😂🇨🇦🇺🇸

[@noelsmith1852]

When will tsn bring Ray back in the fold.

[@rickrobitaille8809]

Size matters when size doesn't work😂🇨🇦🇺🇸🔥

[@rickrobitaille8809]

We define everything by championships only 😁🇨🇦🇺🇸🌐

[@rickrobitaille8809]

Tanev a blessing🇨🇦🇺🇸😁

[@dagger4442]

I wouldn't say smaller guys are the problem...you can have a shorter guy but jacked ,has muscle and then you look at a guy who's 6 foot and a string bean...lol You think the string bean guy is better??? noway man. It comes down to having a balanced team...not too small but at least if your guys are smaller they need to be ripped....well conditioned. I think the problem is small guys or even bigger guys dont have the same mindset as players in years past. The willingness to drive to net and not worrying about falling on there ass!

[@dungeree7292]

At best, the core 4 are Honda civics. Playoffs prove that

[@stopdropandroll]

No way. Civics are reliable. These idiots are not.

[@chriswannamaker7930]

And 18 ladas

[@rickrobitaille8809]

Rory mcilroy is young😁🇨🇦🌐

[@bradsmith5998]

I’d say 3 Ferraris and 1 Maserati

[@rickrobitaille8809]

Tiger woods effect✔🔥😂🇨🇦🇺🇸

[@rickrobitaille8809]

Hayes days again ✔🇨🇦😁

[@rickrobitaille8809]

Tiger reached the MJ state 🌐😁

[@Gum_Cuzzler]

Lol, the Leafs are not a ‘small team’ outside Marner.

[@rickrobitaille8809]

Sports baby is back 🥊🇨🇦🇺🇸😁

[@rickrobitaille8809]

Love is not complicated 😂🇨🇦🇺🇸🌐

[@rickrobitaille8809]

33 yearslong effect✔🇨🇦

[@rickrobitaille8809]

Well said miller😁✔🇨🇦🇺🇸

[@rickrobitaille8809]

We all wanted Stamkos 🇨🇦✔😁

[@rickrobitaille8809]

Still 33🔥🇨🇦😁

[@yourhouseprice]

1 Ferrari and 3 minivans😅

[@rickrobitaille8809]

That was enlightening 😁✔🇨🇦

[@rickrobitaille8809]

Hayes believing ✔😂🇨🇦

[@rickrobitaille8809]

Ray Ferraro ✔🇨🇦😁

[@Bbbbbvggtttttfcdeeww]

As a Toronto sports fan what is more of a waste of money to go see the Raptors Leafs or Jays??????

[@avekrso285]

I get florida is this shining example now but...that was the most unique situation with an incredibly unique player in tkatchuk ....he specificaly requested to go to florida and gave calgary no choice, and hes younger than huberdeaux and while being gritty was in the ballpark points wise, that will NEVER happen for the leafs im sorry, the leafs would be calgary in that scenario

[@zigfield723]

Lmao 4? Ahhh no. Taveras is nowhere CLOSE to that, Nylander after his contract signed (magic) isn't either, and what's Marner? Playoffs are the only thing that counts. I don't think the Leafs have a single "Maserati" until Matthews shows that when it truly counts.

[@rickrobitaille8809]

Rory mcilroy could go on a streak second wind ✔🇨🇦😁

[@adam-se6js]

More like one Maserati, two stock auto 5.0 mustangs and a civic.

[@rickrobitaille8809]

Short people moment to 😂🇨🇦🇺🇸🔥

[@rickrobitaille8809]

We are stuck 🔥😂😁✔🇨🇦

[@rickrobitaille8809]

Love gale sayers ✔🇨🇦🇺🇸

[@rickrobitaille8809]

C'mon here 😂🇨🇦

[@clippedwings0]

That perfectly describes the Leafs' core four problem, but of course an actual NHL executive won't name any teams or say it directly. Everyone is so polite and diplomatic for fear of offending anyone they might work for / try to trade with.

[@rickrobitaille8809]

Awesome 😁🇨🇦🇺🇸🥊

[@rickrobitaille8809]

What the hell is Hayes talking about here 😄🇨🇦

[@rickrobitaille8809]

Not sure why I'm here 😁🇨🇦

[@tonykung8756]

The problem with trading Marner for some highly-touted grinder is that if the grinder doesn't put up points, then he becomes an overpaid 3rd/4th liner and there are no tradebacks...

[@rickrobitaille8809]

Hit the ground coming ✔🇨🇦🇺🇸😁

[@rickrobitaille8809]

Not going to center anyone out effect😂✔🇨🇦

[@woahfarout8793]

you can always count on TSN to dumb shit down

[@rickrobitaille8809]

Perfect 😂✔🔥🇨🇦🇺🇸🌐

[@rickrobitaille8809]

😂😁🇬🇧🇨🇦Rory please win 🇺🇸🌐

[@SedatKulafofski-eh5pc]

Mitch Marner plays like a pink Miata

[@macleanclassics]

Zito just wants marner for a couple of suv's.... lol

[@bradbash2006]

Hayes almost never lets Gord land a point, its actually amazing. Argues so much with him lol, Gord is so smug.

[@robinmaelbrancke2560]

Maserati generally regarded as the shittiest of Italian sports cars so yeah that sounds about right...not quite a Ferrari or a Lamborghini

[@rickrobitaille8809]

This is going to be good ✔🇨🇦😁😄

[@rickrobitaille8809]

More good sports 😁✔🇨🇦🌐

[@rickrobitaille8809]

Jordan love 💰🇨🇦pay him🔥🇺🇸

[@davidjohnson-fw5co]

Maserati’s that don't run in the playoffs. over priced under performing year after year. time to trade them all in

[@user-bi6rm7eg9z]

Jalopies

[@mikebeeston6331]

Bill Zito should have been gm of the year the last 2 years!!!! Jim Nill bahahaha look at the trades Zito has done

[@rickrobitaille8809]

Tiger woods wants a win 😁🇨🇦🇺🇸🌐

[@duncanmac2195]

Tavares aint no Maserati.

[@rickrobitaille8809]

Deep defense ✔🇨🇦😁

[@rickrobitaille8809]

Go Oilers ✔🇨🇦

[@rickrobitaille8809]

Tiger woods will win a tournament before the oilers next cup⚡😁🇨🇦🇺🇸🌐

[@rickrobitaille8809]

😂🔥😄🇨🇦🇺🇸🔥

[@rickrobitaille8809]

😂🇨🇦🥊🔥

[@rickrobitaille8809]

LFG🔥🇨🇦😁

[@paulgiardetti1579]

Tanev is overrated based on what he is getting paid , hasn’t won a cup , not even close. If all these players in Calgary were good why didn’t they win. Edmunston, won one and went to a final ,and is cheaper. Losing Muzin hurt for sure, Tanev will not play a full season, they need to develop guys like Tanev , that has been one of the leafs big issues. Forsling was floridas best defensemen

[@michaeltaddeo]

Leafs need to understand a simple concept: Offense wins you games, defense wins you championships. They of all people need to learn how to park the bus and hold onto a lead, given their reputation. Instead of wasting millions of dollars on 4 players that don't produce, prioritize defense above all else.

[@rickrobitaille8809]

Aaron Rodgers let him pkay around 😂🇨🇦🇺🇸😄

[@rickrobitaille8809]

35 still breast feeding effect 😂🇨🇦🌐✔

[@rickrobitaille8809]

😂🇨🇦🇺🇸🔥stop the world and let Rory off 😁🇨🇦🇺🇸🇬🇧🌐

[@rickrobitaille8809]

Tiger woods will win before Rory mcilroy 😂🔥🇨🇦🇺🇸🇬🇧🌐

[@rickrobitaille8809]

😂🔥⚡🇨🇦🇬🇧🌐

[@rickrobitaille8809]

SUV 😁🇨🇦✔

[@edwardoosterloo587]

U can,t buy loyalty, forget high salary. Look at the past, give the local kids a chance, hearts beat salary, home Canadien boys, look to the Olympics canadian boys. Beat any one , keep the fucken blood suckering lawers out of the contracts. Good home type lawyers. Honest and loyal. It,s not always about moey. Give our kids a chance. What have we got to lose. Howmany years since 1967. Those boys played by heart not wallets.

[@rickrobitaille8809]

Trying to cancel my comments 😂🇨🇦