ZMX FinX30 2600kv - Discussion

All information in this video is as a result of discussion with the designers. I cannot confirm any part of it and as some have pointed out below, there is no Halbach effect going on here but the flux ring is doing something special for sure:
These motors do not employ a true Halbach array. It's a pseudo Halbach array induced by the flux ring (or so I've been told). I apologize for not making that more clear.
Demonstration of a Halbach array effects: goo.gl/i2y7cr
FinX23: goo.gl/GT8aJ8
FinX30: goo.gl/KZbvrW
FinX40:
1500KV: goo.gl/C9YXy9
2600KV: goo.gl/JxByX9
The 23 is the race motor.
The 30 is the acro/race motor.
The 40 is the endurance motor.

[@woutchauvaux6672]

6:20 Really? 130 cm long, and after cutting 20 cm off, you have about 15 cm left? Haha little off there i think ;)

[@HoangLinhBuiSilverDrone]

Nice and fair review as usual :) My apology for the higher price tag than what ZMX usually offer before but I think for the performance and innovations, these motors justify that cost (considering the R5 is also priced at 26usd) After the previous incidents, I have personally told myself that if I can't give anything that's value-adding to the product I am making, it's better to let the Chinese do what they do best and not go down to "rebranding" stuff. This string theory flux ring design, however, is something I have been designing for more than 3 months since the day of conceptualizing the first 3D drawing, FEA analysis of the magnetic field to the day we actually found a good factory to bring it into life so I believe it's something significant enough that ZMX can bring to the market and call it my own. For our loyal customers, this probably is the best thank you we can give for putting up with our problems and giving us your tireless supports! :) We also have some high quality rebranded stuff at $14 coming out in the near future!

[@Seaker24]

I will place an order but I did have a bad experience ordering before. I basically had to move to another brand and it too 3 months to finally get my money back. I don't mean to post this to bash. But shipping speed and customer service is very important. I had to get PayPal involved and that was after your email returned as mailbox full for two full weeks before I quit trying. Basically I lost money on the currency conversion. Innovation means nothing if product does not arrive. Customer service is parmount and a definer toward success.

[@HoangLinhBuiSilverDrone]

Seaker24 My apoplogy if any issue was there before with silver-drone.com customer service. ZMX has taken over silver-drone.com customer service department so I am fully in charge of the company now. You can drop me a PM on my personal facebook should there be any urgent matter :) search Bui Hoang Linh.

[@serval_fpv]

nice just what I've been waiting for... were on backorder when I checked earlier today :(

[@DumbThumbsFPV]

As a person that rewinds motors mostly around the 30hp to 500hp, I can tell you that these little motors are not built as well as they should be for their intended purpose. 1. they should run ceramic bearings with SS races 2. They should be dipped in at least a water based motor varnish for protection and it would help lock in the magnets as well. 3. The skin effect has to be at least present with the wire they use (but these look like they have a good coating on them). Even though we are low voltage, we are pushing higher amps and incredible Hz through the wire. 4. I'm more that sure eddy currents are present with the laminates being so tight but I could be wrong on that one (the only way is to do a core test). Always look for a motor that has clean looking coils that do not have wire (coils) crossing over (once again skin effect). Always take the motor's bell off and put it on a good prop balancer (you may be surprised) and if you can see it, look at how well the wye connection soldering is. I don't like a design that doesn't protect the winding fully. Scratch that wire coating and see how well that motor does.

[@DangerDavefpv]

any word on issues with zmx finx40 2.6 causing esc to blow fets? ive had two spedix 4.1 blow fets... not fire but fet goes bad because ive got grounding from motor pads all way to negative lipo input...continuity from motor pads to the lipo neg? not sure but the few minutes i flown zmx finx40 they feel strong on just 4s tested

[@onemantwohands5224]

Just learnt a shitlaod of info man, thanx for such a good description! :-) turns out my motors might not be that bad after all :-) :-) :-)

[@rogerfpv7408]

why won't the latest Hyperlite motors be on MiniQuadTestBenchs site? 'coz it makes comparison a bit harder between a reviewed motor and a Hyperlite motor. I'm particularly thinking of the 2307 2522Kv's.

[@ZylonFPV]

Interesting motor, the feature I like best is the screw instead of circlip.. it's the little things like that that make a difference. I notice the new rotor riot motor has the same screw design.. I hope that will become standard for all manufacturers

[@Kabab]

It pretty much has become the standard for all the manufacturers that are paying attention

[@achoo4595]

The screws always get loose for me and I can never get the torque right. The bearings end up going to shite. Circlip is lighter, isn't that what everyone says is the greatest things these days. Which is total BS.

[@onemantwohands5224]

They sound a lot like MAD components motors, just a well balanced motor all round :-) :-)

[@Dylan-no3nu]

Hey just curious but what makes you choose your motor size? I always use 2205 but I only ever hear you say 2306 for your motors. This is definitely a subject I need to find out more of.

[@crashtestdummy_fpvctdfpv9100]

Men, please make a video explaining how to understand the charts at www.miniquadtestbench.com. For instance, I would love to see you through the process of comparing this motor with the Hypertrain or the hyperlite, first in www.miniquadtestbench.com and then contrast that with a real live experience.

[@mmenjic]

Magnetic flux is redirected by magnet arrangement not by ridges, if you take out the magnet and look carefully you will probably see that on magnet is composed of 4 smaller magnets glued together and to prove it to your self take out magnet and stick it into case with no ridges and still magnetic field will be redirected then put one regular magnet into ridged case and you will see that magnetic field is not redirected.

[@mooosestang]

Very interesting. I need some lower kv ones. I only get 99amps with the f60pro 2350kv on dal cyclone 5046 on a heavy quad. All i get with high kv motors is more speed obviously, because they spin the props faster, and a lot more amp draw, not a more torquey feel at all.

[@Kabab]

mooosestang the high kv on these don't pull amps like they should. it's much lower amps for the kv. it also doesn't feel like super high kv however so it's the same. just performs like a little lower kv motor to me. plenty fast however.

[@hassaization]

the grip makes a difference too, ive flown 20 packs through them and ive flown back twice with a loose prop nut

[@tomhaaima1810]

Finaly a motor with a lip underneath the magnets, thats it goodbye f40 this is going to be my next go to motor

[@MrHugs17]

are these available? have been running the x25 for a while, and am looking to upgrade and wanted to support them.

[@hassaization]

I spoke to someone with a physics doctorate, and he said that the ribs do actually do something, they redirect the magnetic field inwards to even it out and smoothen out the field too

[@sethmo38]

I really like my old ZMX 2205 v2 motors. Still going strong. Will buy ZMX again!

[@deltajegga]

someone needs to make a motor with pin bearings instead of ball bearings. i think that would last much much longer.

[@franc520]

... at bottom of a lake asset of heavier motors can not be a good thing... :D Peace!

[@danielc.2963]

I would have bought the X20 Fusions had it not been for the silly shipping cost. Maybe later. On the topic of 5x4x3's, I'm not sure if you've seen this, but GEPRC sells a set of 20 props for $7.39 on Banggood. I was wondering if you would want to take a look, and compare it to the other 5x4x3's on the market. Here's the link: www.banggood.com/10-Pairs-GEPRC-5040-V2-5-Inch-3-Blade-Propeller-Triblade-Props-Colver-Prop-Transparent-Color-For-FPV-Racer-p-1169484.html?rmmds=search There's also a solid colored set, but from what I can see they're exactly the same. Thanks for the explanation of the ridges on the motors, quite a cool think ZMX has got going here.

[@Kabab]

Daniel C. I've tried a lot of different 543 copies. the DAL and RK ones are the best ones by a mile. at $0.25/prop, I'm not worried when I recommend them.

[@CoppertopFPV]

Daniel C. Checkout Raymon fpv. Amazing pilot and he's using them for freestyle.

[@livewire1414]

Daniel C. I've flown the GEP 5040x3, I only have the DAL 5040 v2 to compare them too. I think they have a crisper feel during flight due to the material being more rigid than what DAL uses. However, they are not as durable. If you bend a prop you can fold it back without leaving a crease like the DAL 5040, but if you hit something harder than grass and keep the motors spinning they have a tendency to shear between the middle of the blade and the tip.

[@HoangLinhBuiSilverDrone]

The shipping fee to the US maybe around 14usd I think. Also the prices on the site are all in SGD, which is 1.4 times lower than USD

[@bohrfpv]

18mm screw mount instead of 16mm like the Hyperlite motors ?

[@beau6521]

So unfair that you got a set of these. Do you know anything about the 2205 version of this motor? Supposed to be perfect for light props and ultra efficient

[@Kabab]

The 2205.5 2600 is arguably the best racing motor available right now given the specifics, power and weight. Haven't tested it, but I know it's a good motor based on the ones I have. All sold out right now, more coming real soon.

[@quantumprojects5025]

Looks pretty sick. You should check out the ZMX FinX23 - I think it's the lightest 2206 motor available and they boast pretty absurd thrust numbers. It's also pretty cheap - 20 bucks.

[@Kabab]

I've got a dozen of the x23 them on quads 😁. I actually like the brother hobby R6 2205 much much more. Especially the 6S 1750 kv version.

[@quantumprojects5025]

Ohh ok. If I'm looking to run 4s would you still recomend the brother hobby r6? I run 2306 motors on my floss and it works well, but they're a bit heavy for this new build I'm doing. I'm about to put together another quad on my new custom frame. I'm the guy on instagram who was talking about the custom frame I was designing and how I couldn't get it lighter than your floss XD

[@quantumprojects5025]

Oh I should have specified the 2306 motors are brother hobby r6s

[@Kabab]

The lightest 2306 by a huge margin is the new emax 2306. It weighs as much as a 2205. The brother R6 line is really stellar. I recommend it.

[@amaliazamora5008]

KababFPV No m. L

[@josephrsalexander4589]

The bell and housing are made from aluminium which which is non-magnetic - if they wanted to impact the magnetic field I would think they would use a ferrous material - moreover the description of the product on their website reads "Patented String Theory (TM) Flux ring-All Rights Reserved". So i think it is actually making use of string theory - or it's pseudo science marketing - one or the other.

[@HoangLinhBuiSilverDrone]

Actually it's not true, the black belt we called flux ring is part of the magnetic circuitry. Strictly speaking any electromagnetic design is making use of string theory, the idea however is because of the shape of the flux ring, it looks like a vibrating string loop :)

[@Seaker24]

I had a less than stellar experience with silver drone. PayPal had to go after them. They had no record of my account, nor order. Mailbox was full. PayPal had the order and got a refund. Lost money on the currency conversion. I hear they have great product but lack in customer service. It's Singapore! I expected more from such a progressive local.

[@Seaker24]

It's not like I would not try again from them, just spooked!

[@polymetric2614]

what's the point of a pseudo halbach array? why not just make a true one?

[@EmilioBautista]

I am not convinced that it is the ridges causing the magnetic field to be "concentrated" towards the stator of the motor. I say this because I have the FU-RC 2205.5 2300kv motor and I cannot feel any magnetic force between them when placed beside eachother. These motors have a round, pretty standard bell. I think it has more to do with the type of magnetic and how it is polarized. The FU-RC motor does also use curved magnets.

[@Kabab]

EJ_FPV could be. but I've never felt a motor this drastically weak fielded on the outside. I'm sure other motor makers have delicately engineered their flux rings too. this is just a kind of drastic attempt I think.

[@HoangLinhBuiSilverDrone]

There are multiple ways to get the magnetic field inside the bell. Some use extreme shielding, e.g. super heavy bell like on the Cobra Champion. This string theory flux ring does the job at 2.5g lighter the weight.

[@rnelias]

I might have missed but what's the weight of this motor?

[@MojoPapiFPV]

Not sure if its the lighting but the magnets on the hyperlite look twice as thick

[@Kabab]

MojoPapi FPV it's the lip around the bottom of the bell on the zmx. the hyperlite doesn't have that lip

[@MojoPapiFPV]

Does the 18mm holes pose a problem on most frames?

[@Kabab]

MojoPapi FPV most frames have slots so no. I do wish they had gone with 16x16 however. it's kinda odd getting the motor to sit in the middle of the mount as you screw them all on.

[@MojoPapiFPV]

Kabab FPV check out the crazy mounts on the new Raceflight motors.

[@DangerDavefpv]

I love my primo 2207/2650kv dang its fast and it would be almost useless for racing but i have fun on 5s my kraken runs 138mph on 5s ...thank u for your help and suggestion for the spedix es30 esc best esc ive used

[@gitech7450]

Been waiting for your vid on these ZMX's. Faraday, Tesla, these guys, and you are f'n genius's! Hehe ;) I would have thought you'd lean more toward the FinX23 with its' low profile for improved overall CG and centrifugal fan design at a mere 23g?! Upcoming vid?

[@Kabab]

GITech I don't race so much so I just want the power for my acro builds

[@gitech7450]

Groovy, gotcha. Have you flown them? Seem like a great new (hyper)lite motor. :)

[@Kabab]

GITech new video posted of flight

[@ernestfpv8540]

What timing are you using on these motors? mine are getting pretty warm on Medium and Medium High after just couple punchouts, iam afraid to take them to maiden...

[@benchern3048]

Hey bob do you think that the x40 2600kv would be good on 6 or 8s on a light frame and dal 5050x2? They have large stator mass so they could probably get the prop up to high speeds if it doesn't explode.

[@Kabab]

I'm not sure but I'm going to be testing exactly that in a month or so. The X40 2600 on 8S.

[@gitech7450]

:O Speed run record?! :O

[@seattleitefpv]

Hopefully it'll be smoother than the overhyped Fusion X25, which I still regret putting on one of my freestyle quads. ☹️

[@KrotowX]

People are crashing supercars worth millions. And you're whining about quad motor with 40$ price tag :) Well I'll simply wouldn't buy them.

[@Kabab]

KrotowX you get something for your money in a car like that. in this case, many of these motors are the same thing and the only aspect that governs the price is marketing and hype. I hate that

[@KrotowX]

Seems I must practice irony more often :) About hype I fully agree with you.

[@Ant4rai]

Whats the mounting pattern of These finx30? Is it really 18mmx18mm? And whats the mounting pattern on the finx23? Hope some one can help me, is i cant find any informations about this.

[@505Goat]

I kinda of wish you would have given this motor a glowing review without describing how it works. I feel like the cloners are going to come out in full force especially with the motors being back ordered.

[@Kabab]

505Goat it'll attempt to be copied for sure since most companies look to zmx for ideas. but they might mess up the calculations. the design of the magnet structure is patented however and this market is not it's primary use. it's just a test market for them

[@HoangLinhBuiSilverDrone]

It's actually a huge CNC challenge to manufacture this type of flux ring if you don't get the parameters right. From my experience with Chinese factories, I have to say not all companies are like brotherhobby. Chinese are kind and respectable people. I have high confidence that they will live up to my expectation :)

[@lindenbaum9448]

Kabab, do you think 2205 motors have any points for today's racing drone circumstances? Taller motors have better response and motor-efficency - drawing more rpms for the kv. And the weight difference between 2205 (finx23) and 2207 (finx30) is just 6 grams, and even less than that, if compared to other popular 2205 and 2206 motors. Since modern top quality 2207s are around 30 grams, we can put them on light frames as well. If we really want to go for light builds with right props, we can go new breeds of BH R4 1806 or Efaw 1807; Btw, I hope any manufactures make a good 2006 size motor. I don't get why 2205 (finx23) should be considered a racing motor. Am I missing something? And as usual, it's a great review. You are one of the guys in this hobby who are actually helpful to intermediate- or expert-level pilots.

[@Kabab]

I think any good motor is usable. I personally don't subscribe to the super light category. I think ~250-265g dry is the right weight for a racer. A month or two ago I'd say the hyperlite 2205 was the best racing choice as a general high value, light weight motor, but now there are more options. The ZMX finx23 is arguably the best race motor but I think even that is quite a high price tag. For something you're going to crash and smash, I'm not really interested in paying more than ~$15. Good news is that I have a fantastic $14 motor recommendation that will be announced on the 7th. The manufacturer has asked me to wait until then...

[@lindenbaum9448]

Kabab FPV Oh, I understand. You think that the best racing motors should have not only a good quality but also a low cost. That's why you think finx23 is arguably one of the best racing motors, since it's cheaper. That's a really good point. Really curious about the $14 motor. :) Thanks for an input.

[@SomebodyFPV]

Can't wait to see what the $14 motor is going to be. Will you do a video to announce it or is there somewhere else I should look to see the info?

[@marvfpv1590]

Hey, do. you know when they.want to come out with the 2300kv version of this motor? I want to build 2 quads in January to February, and I'm more of a low kV Pilot

[@icerook1560]

It's mostly mental, great marketing, and professional hype that they can charge such a price. Personally 20 bucks tops for me, unless they make an unbreakable motor

[@MrJob91]

7 bucks tops it for me

[@Waba305]

$20 is my limit too. Im always searching for higher motors on sale to reach my limit lol

[@icerook1560]

Waba 305 if the true cost wasn't 5 bucks I'd spend more, accordingly to the quality, facts are most of these motors are made with low quality control, no support, no warranty, etc, and depending on the factory over there, it's like a crap shoot, but then they get marketed so well, we turn into sheep!

[@Waba305]

I totally understand you .. One reason why I'm a year behind with my motors i won't jump on a hype. Now if i see $25 motors going for $15 you better believe i jump on them lol

[@Kabab]

Waba 305 you guys. I have your sub $15 ($14) motor option. it's as good as the very very best motors on the market and QC seems to be good too. the manufacturer has asked me not to share it until the 7th. it's for sure my personal choice motor for all general builds. it's really that good.

[@DashzRight]

100% with you about the overpriced motors.

[@Kabab]

Dashz been slowly creeping up I feel it's pretty disgusting at this point. some products are worth a premium price tag. I'm not convinced motors are. there are far cheaper motors that really aren't all that much worse. at least these motors have some real Innovation. so the price is at least partially justified.

[@TheRCAddict]

Damn it Bob, you killed my hype for the motor already lol

[@ahmadilyas5736]

have you tried 100c chnl batteries

[@steelrainfpv3383]

Great review, explanation and first impressions Bob, many have been wondering about these motors and what the new "flux ring" technology is about. Unfortunately these motors are super expensive and not affordable or wallet efficient for a good portion of the hobby community currently, which is not to say that they are not worth the asking price and the technology is hype, but many will have a hard time swallowing that price tag in general, especially in this specific fpv hobby where crashing and breaking stuff is standard operating procedure.....

[@Kabab]

I agree. Excellent motor, high price. Good for people willing to spend that. I have a sub $15 price option that's as good as all the top motors on the market. Of course there is still a difference, but unless you're a really top pilot you'd be hard pressed to notice. The manufacturer has asked me not to share until the 7th...

[@steelrainfpv3383]

Kabab FPV I can't wait to see what you have in store for us Bob, if they're really as good as you say at a $14 dollar price point, then you will have a for sure winner and no vendor will be able to keep them in stock. I'll be waiting anxiously since I really need new motors for an upcoming build and review, can you give a hint on the size or kv?

[@HoangLinhBuiSilverDrone]

Please don't worry about the price :) For non-believers of the new flux ring design, we have something as well and we don't charge a single cent of profit margin for something we don't make :) So watch out!

[@steelrainfpv3383]

DrAg FPV - I wasn't suggesting that I was a non-believer or that the new flux ring technology isn't worth the entry fee to own these new motors, I was just stating my opinion that the entry price of these motors will eliminate a lot of guys in the hobby from buying these due to budget contraints and the propensity to break and replace things when they crash, but I'm glad that your company is going to offer a more affordable option that will fill a different demand in the motor market for the budget minded and more frugal hobbyists.

[@HoangLinhBuiSilverDrone]

Yeah, I mean for budget minded people. Honestly speaking, we did spent a lot in making this design to work with normal CNC procedures but I still think it's something we can offer to the community :)

[@paularscott9143]

Motor wires are not 130cm.you were thinking mm. . Specs say 20cm.

[@Kabab]

Paul Arscott oops. yeah. 20cm

[@Plur307]

ZMX really needs to get some distributors in the USA so we can avoid the shipping costs from Asia.

[@SpoonFPV]

So is a "super duper smooth" bearing smoother than a "super smooth" bearing Lol, you had me at hall back array, and when they didn't stick. Obviously the more of the magnetic field in the winding the stronger the motor will be. Nice review.

[@mcqueezi3388]

my favorite motors of all time would probably be the BBB 3b-r 2207 2650kv

[@Kabab]

Thanks Elon. 😂

[@mcqueezi3388]

For the gullible people, I am not really Elon musk

[@DangerDavefpv]

finx30 i feel like the bell has a flaw for cooling? id like to try them or the finx40

[@ashingashinga]

How much will take you to calibrate your current sensor??

[@Kabab]

ashingashinga there is no way to calibrate 100% from quad to quad if they're using different FC's. each FC has a different scale. maybe you'll get within 10A of each other, but the actual number is meaningless unless it's calibrated against a known source. maybe I just haven't looked into how to get them all set properly. I don't really have the patience. these quads will all be taken apart in another week so I don't see a point.

[@diayl8u]

Hey love youre videos off topic where can i get some of those fpv camera mounts that attach to the standoffs

[@Kabab]

chad proffitt PiroflipRC.com has them. super useful.

[@Kabab]

chad proffitt also Brain3d and bmc3d

[@kennyl7209]

Redirecting magnetic flux...hmmm...interesting...can you try laying the motor bell over some iron filings so we can see the magnetic field?

[@Thudmoto]

you need to understand what a "Hallbach" array is & what it does. there is Nothing in that magnet or flux ring remotely applicable to Halbach's research. Everything you said is junk science.....the scalloped flux ring is not a new innovation, but it is nice to see one in production. you are correct about torque & kv. Copper fill is king for creating torque.

[@Kabab]

Thudmoto I meant to say paudo halbach effect. was my mistake. it's not a true halbach.

[@Josh_8300]

Why has someone not created a true hallbach arrayed motor? I mean i get it would be difficult to produce on a large scale (testing each magnet individually and arranging them in the optimal order for each motor), but if it had a dramatic effect... I pay 50+ a motor for them.

[@Thudmoto]

1st. @Kabob sorry for the double post...one got hung up somewhere & i re-stated my concern. Whomimizfpv. Hallbach discovered he could re-create the closed circut of magnetic flux with no back iron with alternating 45 degree poles on surrounding magnets. Unfortunatly, its not as effective as a simple ring or plate. It takes 5 magnets to create a single poie in a hallbach array. our motors are correctly described as having 7 pole pairs. that's 14 magnets in the can. Nothing pseudo Hallbach about that design. All it does is give a thicker flux directing back ring at a portion of the circuit to completely capture the magnets flux in a closed circuit. The scaloped machining reduced the weight of a really thick back ring. Just looking at it I'll give props to the designers & manufactures of this motor. its a real step in giving up a "No-Compromise" motor. if you want the Best in motor design, detail & finish, this motor is a 1st choice. As for the Marketing guy's dropping Hallbach's name & saying "pattented technology" ....thats just funny.

[@Kabab]

Thudmoto well thanks for that. definitely is beyond my knowledge. I wasn't told this much. I did a little reading on the halbach array that they were talking about and figured that it mostly makes sense but I cannot really confirm any of it. all I did here was present what I discussed and explained my performance experience. I'll pay more attention in the future and not try to spread BS...not my intent

[@28daballa]

What's the best 2207 motor right now?

[@Kabab]

Any one that costs more than $14.98 😁

[@krabie23]

So how do all those little ridges "channel the magnets"?

[@Kabab]

krabie23 great question.... apparently they just collect the field in the areas between the magnets to even out the flux ring.

[@goobisoft4873]

I have 4 a2212 brushless motor for 450 quad 2 of them motors are smooth but other two have clicky notch u mentioned in ur video, the motors which are smooth are getting much hotter then notchy feeling motors is that normal pls help me i cannot touch those for more then 2 seconds it extremely hot and i m using 3s 1045 prop on 1000kv

[@Kabab]

Hard to say. the notchy feeling has to do with the magnet strength and bell design. It's usually not the case that some of the same model motor are notchy and others aren't. I'd consider there to maybe be a short somewhere in your wiring or your motor screws are touching the stater or something.

[@goobisoft4873]

@@Kabab I opened the bell and isnpected already and no screw are touching i make sure of that but still its happening

[@Kabab]

If there ever was a time when the screws came in contact with the windings they could have damaged the windings coating. If so, some warm motors will be the best of the possible things that could happen. This has happened to me a number of times over the years so I'd guess it's the likely cause.

[@goobisoft4873]

@@Kabab i always was careful when screwing the nuts make sure they dont touch and visually inspected while doing that so i dont think my screws ever touched motor maybe its the bad esc i m using cheap ebay yellow heatshrink esc

[@Kabab]

@@goobisoft4873 hard to say. Just keep using them till something happens. That's usually the way to go anyway 😁

[@tomshangar4283]

Thanks. Very value added.

[@ShaneWymore]

Hey man! Solid review, impressive motor, can't wait to see what they release in the near future

[@BrokenanklesFPV]

Those damn birds

[@jeebs9439]

3000 kv mmmmmm yummers ;p

[@mickolesmana5899]

i know it is unrelated, My friend try brushless motor on Tamiya Car, long story short, it broke the gearbox.

[@Kabab]

Lol. I'm sorry but that's very funny. I loved my Tamiya as a kid.

[@MrMikeyBmore]

Hey kabab, I have some efaw 2407 2800 kv monsters. What prop would you suggest for this motor. It's a campfire stretch frame that I love. Any suggestions??

[@Kabab]

Ooh that's a rough choice actually. Maybe the HQ 5.1x3.1x3 would be best. Lots of kv on that motor.

[@MrMikeyBmore]

Hell yeah it is, especially with big ass 2407's....lol

[@MrMikeyBmore]

Love your videos bro you are one of the main reasons I even got into fpv racing and now I'm probably the best and my multigp group a lot of that I owe to your videos so thank you

[@Kabab]

WOOOOOOO keep going!

[@MrMikeyBmore]

@@Kabab thanks man I definitely will interesting Lee enough I didn't realize you were a dentist until I watch this video funny thing is I'm a lawyer bet you there aren't too many people like us ripping it up in the quad scene LOL

[@user-hf7km8oo1h]

Hyperlites 4 life

[@ignatiusjohn_]

Great back drop shot design! Really nice job.

[@HomeGrownCanadianFPV]

always learning from you... another very good video ty

[@RexSnoww]

They have a flux capacitor?!?!?!

[@reathandbandha4247]

Nice video. I've had my eye on these. Thanks for the info!

[@raptorfpv9519]

Thats a great looking motor! Looks very well made!

[@DimplePoji]

What esc would you advise on these motors?

[@Kabab]

Asgard all in one. Not even kidding. That's what's in the quad. It flies frikin awesome and is as reliable as any other setup so far. Otherwise, the tattu 30A or wraith 32bit ones. No other ESC meets my standards of even power delivery. Even these aren't perfect but are way closer than all the others I've seen.

[@DimplePoji]

Kabab FPV thanks for the advice/recommendation.. 👍

[@boredmug]

They look like they are made by manufacturer hawksky

[@Kabab]

Caton cox could be. unknown

[@HoangLinhBuiSilverDrone]

Not this model :) I know you and my friend in Singapore have a generic design from Hawksky, it's a good motor to be fair. So I hope you to be fair with our motors as well. Good competition is what drive this hobby forward.

[@boredmug]

The motors looks awesome man! I'll be buying a set.

[@bentarr17]

Can you run a 6s battery on the finx30?

[@Kabab]

probably will be no issue. They take 5S completely fine.

[@HoangLinhBuiSilverDrone]

Add a 1500uF low ESR capacitor and you will be fine :)

[@pkvillager]

Its pronounced "Phoenix" 30 :D I killed one of my Emax 2306 2400kv's and the rest are fairly beat up so after your Nazgul review and teaser of these motors I bought a set of the Finx30's on backorder. What grabbed me is they recommend 2 of my favorite props, the Avan and 5152. I'm more excited because you are saying you are getting more efficiency out of the Avans with these! I'm not a very experience pilot so I'm getting ~4.5 min flights out of a Gold Label HV 1500. It would amaze me if I get more efficiency from these ZMX's when the Avans were specifically designed for the 2306 2400kv. The price was kinda eye watering but this motor does seem to have some real innovation and only a little more than the motors they will be replacing. I could not bring myself to get the Finix40 2.6kv @ $29.48 each. And get that flight video up with these motors please!

[@Kabab]

I feel the pricing pain too. These are really the only motors I would consider such a high price for. All the rest have no real innovation in them and are mostly the same with various construction choices. I'd say $22 is really the max I'd consider for a motor and I'd really like it to be more like $15...good news, I've got a $14 motor option that's as good as all the big boys. Manufacturer has asked me not to share until the 7th.....

[@gitech7450]

Agreed, these are really the only motors I would consider such a high price for! ...$14?! ZMX? I'm in! (Imagining a very light 2204.5 like the FinX23 for 5x4x3's?)

[@Kabab]

GITech no the other motor is not a zmx. its a 2306 too. not my favorite size but it'll do for $14 and that kinda performance.

[@lindenbaum9448]

Kabab FPV Must be Aokfly. :)

[@gitech7450]

Gotcha. Is it a super lite 2306? The FinX23 might be the first high $ motor for me if it's efficient for 5x4x3's and Cyclone v1&v2's on lite builds. I agree 220X is large enough. I wonder with the increase in torque and eff' here that they may be able to go down to a new, say 200X(6-7?) ~20g motor??

[@jhughes2286]

The links are forbidden

[@Kabab]

This video is very old now. Look up the Xing motors. They're great

[@goggl3boy]

I learned some stuff. Thanks!

[@Thudmoto]

wow....bob, please stop talking about motors......your doing more harm to newb's than you you will ever help. Nothing in that that motor has anything remotely related to Dr. Hallbach's research. & glossing over the real meat & potato's of motor design (NGO steel & its function in a stator, lam thickness & iron loss & now blowing off Copper fill) Even the scalloped flux ring is not a new innovation, but it is nice to see one in production. (very costly for minimal gain in measurable performance)

[@Kabab]

Thudmoto none of this information comes from me. all of it comes from the zmx developers. I did some research and in fact the effect that is induced is a pseudo halbach array. thanks for reminding me. I forgot to put the link in the description. Please see the text in the description and let me know if it satisfies your concerns.

[@Thudmoto]

Kabab-I appreciate 99.9% of your content. & I seriously apologize for flaming this comment section. But please take the time to really understand the technical things your talking about, or just stay on the subjective side of what your showing or reviewing. Saying things like "low temp winding" & speculating what other manufactures do is unprofessional at best. Glossing over details that are key design features is a little insulting to the designers. We'r all good bro. (love that park you were flying with all the low tree's-I liked that vid with a thumbs up LOL)

[@Kabab]

Thudmoto well the issues is that the manufacturer can tell me whatever they want. there's no way for me to confirm any of it. all I can do is compare it to all the other motors I've looked very closely at. judge by experience alone. even if I took the time to explain all the technical details, I doubt they'd be accurate. so I gloss over things because the details don't really matter. what does matter to me is the performance, durability, user experience.

[@HoangLinhBuiSilverDrone]

I beg to differ. The string theory flux ring is patented and the patent application has been reviewed for its uniqueness.

[@Thudmoto]

Don't just beg, prove it with a link to the white papers. Is it licence'd from old existing work? design or application patent. its a great design....& it looks like ZMX has the rights to it(on quad copter motors anyway) using cool tag words like "String Theory" is pure marketing fluff.

[@Josh_8300]

Anyone else have getting a bad link?

[@Kabab]

WhomImIzFPV bad link? which one?

[@Josh_8300]

Kabab FPV i dunno if its a bad link or thier site is down. I tried it on 2 phones. The silverdrone site loads then goes to an error page?

[@jrock7859]

Am I really first??

[@BigSlimThic]

That motor is junk. Simply because the shaft screw is a hex. LULZ

[@dukedblu]

Good vid!

[@mouseFPV]

05:36 the tp3 looking back from the future like.....🤔

[@thiagocruzy]

zmx 30 prototype = JUNK. every flight, 1 motor wire breaks. 3 quads, 3 crashes, 3 wires broken. every session!!! fucking JUNK JUNK JUNK... gooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooood help me

[@mr.b6917]

With some motors I know the money is in the bearings. Like full ceramic bearings aren't cheap so I could see why they would charge more.

[@Kabab]

USA UAV yeah but ceramic bearings can be even less durable. every bearing on any motor I've used so far ultimately breaks after a certain number of flights or crashes.