Zombie YouTubers Are Killing The Zombies Community

Zombie KZbinrs Are Killing The Zombies Community. Today I discuss the current state of zombies as a gamemode, but the state of zombies content, points made on a twitter post and what we should do as a community going forward in order to grow the community.
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Timestamps:
0:00 - Intro
1:02 - The State of Zombies
1:58 - The State of Zombies Content
9:24 - The Twitter Post
16:02 - Moving Forward
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[@Renzaru]

Feel like this is a topic that really needed to be said. If you're a KZbinr and you see your name or video mentioned in this video, please don't take it as hate or negativity towards what you've built up, consider it feedback and use it to improve yourself and the community as a whole or if you don't agree with what I have to say just ignore it and continue doing what you're doing. (So please don't DM me to start beef lmao, I'll just ignore it) Together we can build back up the community to what it once was Update: Lex unfollowed me on Twitter lmao Further Update: Lex blocked me lmaoooo

[@Jackpot-cd2jc]

It needed saying as fed up with misleading titles and watching rushed content. Some of these KZbinrs honestly look like they put no effort in to their content.

[@NightmareValiant]

You should do a video going over the theoretical fastest time to complete every zombies game

[@yourbreakfast1681]

mate no one can ignore anything unless they are manly bro

[@FPSpsychoYT]

Very well said. You know it's bad when the original creator of a popular Zombies series/trend feels bad making content on the same thing that THEY MADE due to how many copycats emerge. I love inspiring people, having that ability is by far the best aspect of being a KZbinr - but this is 100% hurting the channels that decide to copy, and it hurts to watch. Rushin also made a video talking about Plagiarism yesterday on his second channel, glad to see people stepping up and acknowledging the glaring problem. I may upload a video on the topic too, just to raise more awareness. Will see how the Community reacts in the very near future. P.S: 50+ Perks with 49+ Videos series coming soon ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)

[@sirnetflix7162]

One thing I also dislike about the Zombies content is when a KZbinr wants to make a video about a topic and discuss it, but they try to talk about it while playing an actual game of zombies. The problem with that is that they keep having to stop speaking or stutter because they also have to focus on the game. It's annoying, just record the gameplay and speak over it if you can't do both at the same time.

[@Renzaru]

That's why I chose to voice over it since it let me give my thoughts without having to worry about the game

[@MindbenderTTV]

Most YTs prefer spending 30 minutes on making a video rather than like 4 hours. That's why most YTs do reaction videos and gameplay commentary.

[@MindbenderTTV]

Reaction content is the worst tho...

[@fireknight24]

Ive kinda been thinking similar stuff since i just cant find too much interesting content and people arent really attempting to change up the content and or bring anything new so i found it refreshing to find you and chrrism specifically trying out these interesting challenges and or maps so i appreciate you and your content for being refreshing and all since i feel you do a good job at being entertaining while having a new sort of spin on what you do and how you do it. Im surprised you arent a bigger channel than you are since you really deserve it.

[@Renzaru]

Appreciate that bro, glad to see I'm not alone on what I'm saying :)

[@ItsGrievesYT]

Amazing vid! I appeared a couple times in this vid, pretty new to the zombies community, very good critiques and valid points made, I hope no other creator takes this as hate, it’s good motivation to spice up zombies content 👍

[@Renzaru]

Glad you’ve taken it as feedback and not hate, I’ve seen your channel popping up and it’s good content, everyone has to start somewhere at the end of the day so it’s just about finding what makes your content stand out to the rest.

[@ItsGrievesYT]

@@Renzaru exactly, it’s all about improvement over time, riding a wave isn’t always a bad thing but sometimes doing something no one else is doing is a good way to stick out. I’m currently working on making improvements to my channel and content, as I do wanna make this a full time thing one day. Keep up the great content man, I’ll be tuning in! 🙏

[@Angel6T4]

surprisingly good non boring video from ren wow who would've thought I'm kidding. you're one of the people I noticed trying new shit. Really cool to see. Throughout the last almost 2 years making zombies only content I tried to experiment with almost every video. I seldom doubled up on the success of a video(which is like a big nono I know) and throughout that process I actively avoided watching any other zombie creators to reduce the possibility of consciously or even subconsciously taking their idea. obv It was easier when there weren't as many creators. It's safe & convenient to look at what the best videos are and attempt to reproduce them to share or even take their spot in the algo. The problem is that, that works sometimes. And the feedback loop here is a crazy opportunity for any creator that wants to grow a channel and learn KZbin as quick as possible. Zombies turned into a retail job with a high turnover rate. The smart ones get their experience and then leave for a larger audience in a different niche that's more receptive & appreciative of their artistic endeavors. And I can't blame them. I still plan on making zombies videos for a while because It's something I can enjoy. But the work to reward ratio in other communities/niche is much nicer. Especially when you finally have more of an understanding on how KZbin works. Zombies audience loves their slop. And creators love to give it to them. So in a logical business sense, let them have it. As creators, it's very easy to spot who's only in on it for the money. But the viewers don't care. As long as they have 100 easily digestible perk and cne videos to watch that are all the same thing. This isn't even a problem with just zombies, it's a problem with media in general onset by the shift into primarily short form entertainment amongst other things. "Content" has to be more and more accessible than ever before. The video game, movie, music, and many other industries suffer just the same. People want surface level substance. Life is hard and it sucks, they want to relax at the end of the day and be spoonfed dopamine. Anyways, proffessional yapper, I ain't readin allat. I could go on forever. I appreciate you including me in the conversation. It's always nice to see someone willing to discuss things past the surface level. Even as something as innocuous as making zombies videos. This is how greatness is created.

[@Smilez83]

Really well put together video and glad uv said what alot of people are thinking and done in a way where hopefully people can learn.

[@rhomanW]

I'm not going to write this comment and glaze for no reason. This was a really good video, I respect the fact that you've called out so many creators (including myself) for what has been going on in the community. I can't expect a lengthy response because like you said we're pretty much only on neutral terms but I'm probably going to use this video as a learning curve for how to do better not only as a creator but just a member of the community. Actions do speak louder than words and that's a pretty tough pill to swallow. This video has genuinely changed my perspective a bit and I hope other creators begin to understand as well. If it's enough of a wakeup call for me to realise then anyone else I feel would just rather live in arrogance.

[@Renzaru]

Didn't want you taking it to heart or anything like that, I want to see overall content improve in the community and bring more originality and different content, the more different types of content being produced means more people entering the community which is best for everyone. Glad to see you've looked at it in a good perspective and not as hate to your channel, keep up the growth!

[@Itriiz]

@@Renzarustop glazing lil bro

[@Renzaru]

@@Itriiz 🤓

[@Itriiz]

@@Renzaru cold

[@wjplays_]

14:20 when I see a Lex reaction video, I just go to the description and watch the original video, or search it up if needed

[@nickdotjpg]

i think its also important to mention that even if you dont have a pc to get access to custom mods or maps, you can still have good original ideas for zombies content. theres plenty of things you can do on a console to make content that is unique to you. ive had plenty of ideas i can do on a console that involves the base maps on the current and prior games.

[@Renzaru]

So true, I forgot about console creators so this is a great point to make!

[@TheSon678]

This is a valid point, but I would say that most zombies creators are on PC. I think console creators are simply exempt from the problem as a whole since they are so limited in their options for content

[@TheSon678]

This is a valid point, but I would say that most zombies creators are on PC. I think console creators are simply exempt from the problem as a whole since they are so limited in their options for content

[@nickdotjpg]

@@TheSon678i get what youre saying, but even console players could steal certain ideas, not saying anyone would, but someone on console could easily take the "can you beat _____ in __ hours?" series and completely rip off the idea. it's mostly just the bigger ideas that they can take.

[@nickdotjpg]

id hope no one would take that idea, anyways. itd be scummy. not saying thats the only example either, but given the channel were on right now, thats just what came to mind. no shade intended at all ren, apologies if it came across that way.

[@Storm.Vortex]

5:23 WHAT??? MRTLEXIFY with a misleading title??!!!1!!1? this can't be...

[@Renzaru]

😮

[@Jackpot-cd2jc]

Guy is a cancer to the zombie community, problem is people still bum him off

[@user-vl9ps6gr3u]

IKR THIS IS OUTRAGEOUS!!!!!1!!!1111!!!

[@guyiguess438]

Yeah it’s why I stopped watching him I realized around the “activision cease and desist on sm2 and x labs times” his content stop feeling fun and felt like it was just for money

[@coolcolorado127]

I would love to see more coop gameplay, just in general. I was a youth in the beginning of the community, when in my opinion it was either Next Gen Tactics or Syndicate, Z house i suppose later on and noahj. In my opinion one of the biggest missing elements is the actual sense of community, every creator does almost everything solo. Part of why I enjoy this channel so much has been frequent EEs and such with other people. I can't help but wonder why there are no "4 player 1 box challenge" where everyone just has fun, and jokes around and need reviving because they're trying to lead trains into the unlucky fellow with a ballistic knife. Modded maps in coop, race to reverse rainbow perk challenge could be fun. Even trying to camp in parts of the map as a team, or map wide training strategies, host lobbys with subs and make little highlight reels doing any types of challenges that way it wouldnt always require other creators. I'm staying subbed regardless, you keep it honest

[@coolcolorado127]

Forgot to mention the aether story being completed, with an official timeline, only really excuses the unfortunate yet predictable reality of all the theory based channels dying. In turn I think this has helped although probably minutely, saturate the majority of content in to what we see now

[@nousoualor9938]

Should check out withFriends if you haven't already. Basically just two guys who aren't the best at zombies having fun. They do have some challenge videos

[@Nullbound]

What's interesting is that, the best times in the zombies community have always been when everyone is unified. In Bo1 and Bo2, everyone was constantly doing ee hunts together, people would collab on videos. During bo3 it was the same AND we had custom zombies as well, (look at Vanoss for example, having fun with his friends on zombies). Or even the Zhouse, or Tim Hansen, especially with his last man standing videos. Tim literally revived the zombies community for a year single handedly because he brought a unique idea and built a community sentiment around it. It is jist sad to see that evryone is at the point where they rather just play by themselves and recycle content. At this point the only zombies content I enjoy is random videos from small channels, MrRoflWaffles, and YAW. Small channels always have fresh ideas because they are trying to find something to draw people to them specifically, Milo is just the goat and it's great seeing him talk about zombies and interact with the community, and YAW is just so consistent and unbothered that any drama in the greater community doesn't affect them. They have their niche and they provide that to eveeryone. Which is greatly appreciated since YAW brings attention to so many different custom maps and creators.

[@Kieran2687]

Well said mate, you’re the reason I got back into zombies I stopped playing around bo3 and have only come back to it in the last month, buying world at war, black ops 1&2 and now me and my girlfriend sit playing a game or 2 of zombies on a weekend thanks to you, keep up the work bro

[@Renzaru]

Glad I can get you back into the community, thanks for supporting the channel!

[@Kieran2687]

@@Renzaru anytime bro

[@Rogue-Owl]

Jake sounding like DarkViperAU here 14:42

[@Renzaru]

Honestly bro I was thinking that when editing it lmao

[@nousoualor9938]

As much as I love zombies, a lot of the content did get old. Watching your videos, did bring back the fun vibes. I recently came across another zombies channel called withFriends. They brought up some new ideas, and it does kinda feel like you're just gaming with friends

[@aledibi5923]

another amazing content was the content creator tournament. that type of content has a huge potential of benefit the comunity, and the fact that it hasnt been done more frequently is crazy

[@Renzaru]

One was done that I know of but was so poorly executed it hurt more channels than helped, would love to host one myself lmao

[@Jackpot-cd2jc]

You should definitely do it Renzaru, I liked the idea but the way they did it was so poor it ruined what could have been a fun concept.

[@Hotride218]

Ya know, I 100% agree with you. When I see one video pop off in the zombies community, There are 9 different videos that are copy and paste from other youtubers. And it just becomes my entire timeline. That is always how its been and its just very lazy. I am a big fan yours but has always been a fan of lex but when I saw he is copying your vids and scoffed because really. But I just wanted to say much love. Your vids are so entertaining and I hope you keep it up and keep growing. Much love

[@remidesmith8674]

Very adroit synopsis of the issues. I believe the best way to go forward is to do things that are good for YOU which is believe this channel does better than any other in the field. Keep up the top quality work Jake be authentic to yourself!

[@Renzaru]

Thank you bro appreciate it!

[@Dominoe82]

Honestly, early on with my channel I definitely tried to jump on the cause & effect train. I didn’t think too much of it at the time. I did change the titles a little bit but my thumbnails were way too similar to FPSpsycho. I had to reevaluate back then after I noticed so many others doing it and I remember thinking this isn’t right. I rarely do cause & effect anymore but when I do I feel like my thumbnails have their own personality now. Also with the 50+ perks I did something similar but with 20 perks over on Bo2. Crazy how many hopped on that one.

[@Renzaru]

This is why I said self evaluation is so important, you can think you're in the clear but then once you look back you can see that it wasn't right. Glad to hear you have improved and now have your own style of video, it will help you a lot more in the future. Hope you continue growing, your content is really good :)

[@Dominoe82]

And it seems like this video has already impacted some KZbinrs in a good way by the looks of the comments. And thanks so much for that bro. Same goes to you!

[@BossOnYT]

cant lie for the longest time I've wanted to get into zombies content, cause well I love zombies, but seeing the brain rot half the community puts out now is deffo a turn off for me

[@sufficientz4938]

It pained me but I had to unsubscribe from NoahJ and MrT. Pioneers of the community we all loved, now making clickbait titles and thumbnails making half assed "reactions" to other peoples hard work and getting more views and money than the real creator. its disgusting and literal stealing imo.

[@Renzaru]

Yeah its sad seeing such a fall from grace

[@idfk866]

Going off the SMP thing, I feel like if people started making SMP-like zombie channels where 4 people make content together (challenges, EEs, HRs, etc.) it would breathe some decent life back into the community

[@MrGGMan19]

Looking at creators like You Always Win, who were one of the first channels to fully cover so much custom zombies content, for multiple games. People can take inspiration from that or just fill in the gaps of missed custom content and still can be successful

[@Renzaru]

Honestly, they haven't resorted to 50+ perk videos so why has everyone else when they don't have a video to make lmao.

[@abi_200]

Big Renz had a jerry maguire moment, and started spitting facts 😂😂😂

[@BandTubeHD]

This is a thing that's happening in general, not just zombies. There is no originality anymore and when there is, people dunk on it.

[@IsopodsAreMyThing]

Im trying to make videos, and I thought for a good fourteen seconds, “Can I beat every non-treyarch map in 14 hours” it really is that hard to come up with new ideas, because everyone is sleeping on the non-treyarch games just make some videos on those, but thats my input, good video renzaru (p.s i love you 😘)

[@Renzaru]

Exactly it takes no time at all to think of a new idea, i've been wanting to make that vid on non treyarch games but i suck at ww2 zombies lmao, thanks for the support on the channel tho

[@IsopodsAreMyThing]

@@Renzaru I'm so cracked at ww2 zombies i could lowkey help you out lmao

[@ac1dicscytheva346]

I wonder if Lex will react to this? 😂 Fr tho, this video is what the Zombies community needs. I've also noticed a little hypocrisy with some creators, with them bashing COD for slacking innovation and then proceeding to make the same video everyone else made/is making. Honestly, I've seen a few of your videos. I'm now subbed to you, you deserve more.

[@ac1dicscytheva346]

Also, after watching more zombies content, I've been doing the EE quests on BO3 because I've never been able to be confident enough to do them. They are SO much more fun to actually do. I feel anew (vanilla, btw). All I need to do is 4-player Shadows and then Rev. So after I'm done with doing the quest, I might start doing more zombies content.

[@zakthebaptist]

Great video!

[@ItzCane]

Tbh, the only Zombies content I've really enjoyed recently are shreebington's Presidential Zomboys videos, and your videos (especially the Easter Egg videos, as that was how I found your channel). It's sad that Zombies is in a state that it's in rn. 🙁

[@Renzaru]

I really appreciate the super chat thank you so much. Yeah zombies is in a really bad state at the moment, hopefully this video can make a change if it reaches enough people.

[@Raossphe]

Absolute banger, I'd love more commentary style videos like this in the future

[@Renzaru]

Thank you bro

[@sainthavoc7267]

I feel if there is one thing that saddens me about the zombies community is that if there is a big creator like NoahJ456 or MrT, and they do not like a new zombies map that came out. Then that leaves a bad taste for a lot of other community members or even people who may be interested in wanting to join. Especially if they really aren’t being critical about the map, and just throw hate out because it’s easy. For example, when Attack of the Radioactive Thing came out, Noahj456 always said how much he hates the map for being too big, hates the Brute Crog, some EE steps and so on… Even though, the map is not even that terrible in retrospect given the map is literally a big circle with nicely placed shortcuts and paths. The EE is seriously not THAT complicated either. (The chemical step is literally just finding the radio saying your solution and then adding numbers together to create your bomb) just sad since it’s actually what I believe a decent to great map, lots of space to train, give yourself a challenge and the boss is incredibly fun. Sure it may not look the best, but… personally… sometimes that adds even more charm to a map. And I know Lex is Lex, but come on… When he hates something. Sometimes he gives terrible reasons why. People thought Radioactive Thing was complicated… how about Gorod Krovi with the trophy step where it’s random, each step is different… AND FOR THE BOMB IF YOU MISS IT AND DONT KNOW THE ORDER YOU LITERALLY DIE UNLESS YOU TAKE THR DRAGON TO FLY AWAY AND BE SAFE! anyways, that’s my rant. I do love zombies. But god damn I haven’t bought COD since IW since zombies has gone so downhill after that.. (hot take or not, but zombies is just not good or engaging like it used to be)

[@jacobwood8320]

What sort of hardware do you need to record? I’ll have to look into it because I thought about making some KZbin videos. Nothing like the challenges every other Ztuber does but I noticed that since coming back to zombie with my mates, the games are hilarious! We’re not massively skilled but the commentary and laughs me and my mates have is very very funny and I reckon people might watch it. We’re 25 now and it had been years since we played together like we do on Zombies

[@Renzaru]

Just get any editing software like Vegas (there is ways to get it if you know what I mean), and get OBS for recording and you’re all good from there bro

[@trg5584]

I think this is defenitly a youtube problem but you do see it alot in zombies. As a small zombies youtube i'll say my main thing is i need to research the ideas i have more for example i did a 50+ perk challenge but I did a custom map but I noticed after I published it, it was already made. But good vid bro

[@Musashi337]

Yeah it's crazy that my favorite "zombies" youtuber is VanossGaming, and he isn't even a zombies youtuber. He just played it every once in awhile with his friends, put on a modded map, and had a blast.

[@silviov-ji2vi]

I really liked this video and I do agree on what you say I do hope it will become great again

[@TheshowmanZ]

As a small creator I see all these Easter egg trends and 50+ perks trends it’s it’s very tempting to copy because I probably will get more views but I rather stay honest to myself then get more views I 💯agree with u abt the copying catting problem

[@Renzaru]

I think people have had enough of this content because its been over done which impacts the original creator. If you stick with making new stuff people will be more willing to click your vids since its something new!

[@TheshowmanZ]

@@Renzaruthanks

[@tescoswetwipesyt]

As a small zombies KZbinr, I agree with this statement, I moved to speed running and gained a slightly bigger audience doing as such. But none of my original content got any views so I deleted them. But now I think you speaking out now gives me more of a chance to start expressing myself. Nice one Jake. Well said!🎉

[@Renzaru]

Thank you bro, hope you find the growth you deserve, some of your speedruns are crazy!

[@CTP10]

I started straight gameplay but does better with no commentary for me

[@sbp456]

Stopped at 8:19 in to comment(I am guilty of the 50 perks and in my first vid of it I said “I watched FPSPsycho’s vids on it and it just looked fun”) and you’re 100% right. I’ve done stuff on my channel that’s 100% from other people and have mentioned them extensively, linked their channel, and made sure any support goes to them for whatever it is I’m doing. If I make a vid someone has it’s always “this is theirs, I did not make this, but I’m playing zombies for fun and that looked like so much fun.” Like you specifically got me wanting to do map speedruns and it’s not to rip your content it’s bc you make it look enjoyable. I think as long as the inspiration or credit is heavily pushed and it’s not just for clicks on their own channel and we’re supporting one another and just enjoying zombies it’s fine. But straight ripping stuff, mentioning them once, nothing in a description, or doing it for clicks and not doing something you’re actually having fun with or doing for your enjoyment is killing the community rn. Love you Renzaru you’re the reason I make videos. My goal with my content is to get to the level to do EE’s w you brother. I appreciate what you do for Zombies and for your content when it’s bedtime❤️

[@sbp456]

Also why I’ve been trying to push custom maps and all the ones I’ve been posting have been ones that people have been asking me to play.

[@Renzaru]

I really appreciate that you've not taken it to heart and wrote a massive comment defending it or hating me for it. I think your video's are great and I'm more than happy to see your growth. 100% agree that people need to credit the original source of the idea more often and think it's great that you made sure to link their channels and shout them out as much as possible, more people in the community need to do that. When it comes to like 50+ perk videos, it was more aimed at the people who are doing it simply for clicks and don't post anything original or unique to their channel, your reaction is exactly how I hope other KZbinrs take it. Keep the content bro, hope to see your channel grow. ❤️

[@user_Z-]

youre right. this is why after the tim hansen rise and fall i kinda stopped watching zombies content. everything felt the same during that dead period

[@Spiritfury3750]

Ngl I really respect this video so much jake risked so much hate to point out a kinda obvious problem within zombies.

[@Renzaru]

I really thought I was gonna get shit on for making this but so far the reception to this has been really good, hoping it makes a change!

[@ducktormonty4603]

I like how people are finally starting to call out big Zombies youtubers' bullshit. Genuinely Lex alone has done so much shitty stuff to the community it's surreal. That stuff aside, I appreciate you talking about these problems with the zombies community, it's been really rough years lately and as someone who grew up and started playing and interacting with the community around bo1 launch it feels so bad to see the direction the community is heading towards. I hope we, as a community learn and keep moving forward instead of bringing each other down, because I love these games, I love to interact with the community, and I love supporting great content creators for the zombies game mode, and it'd be a shame if we keep making the same mistakes over and over again.

[@niskanen19]

ive started watching ur vids after lex reacted

[@Renzaru]

Thanks for coming over

[@supersaiyansean9679]

Honestly i hope this gets way more views so that people can actually listen and understand why zombies content has been so bad for uears now, I'll support youtubers and twitch streamers (very few though) and what not but it never takes away from the fact that content has literally been copied and pasted for years, i used to watch codenamepizza consistently but honestly i got real tired of just seeing the easter eggs get done every time like why not try and exceed your highest rounds for each map or just something fresh at least 😂 its like watching constant reruns of your favourite show until you get sick of it 🤷‍♂️

[@BOT-001-xn7tp]

I feel like the only reason other youtubers coping content is ok is because it might give you a different perspective on how others play the games and they might even have content other youtubers didn't include in there videos

[@Renzaru]

As long as proper credit is given and it's not a 1-1 copy of the title and thumbnail then its alright, but giving none of that and not being able to distinguish the two videos apart is when the issues arise

[@TheLavanderTown]

Yeah like I've tried breaking into but wow there is low traffic

[@Renzaru]

Yeah it's a rough scene at the moment.

[@Pigpen_YT]

5:09 - I mean this is MrTLexify we're talking about. Basically just makes reaction videos nowadays. Let's never forget the time he reacted to EruptionFang's masterpiece of a Zombies timeline video. He watched the entire thing on stream and then uploaded a five and a half hour stream highlight video him watching the video. Keep in mind the EruptionFang's video is six hours and forty five minutes long. Dude pretty much reuploaded most of the video.

[@Renzaru]

Yeah it’s a pretty big fall from grace, which is sad to see since he inspired so many people to start making videos

[@user-sp6uj3un6z]

i totally agree with u nice vid fpspsycho is hungry for perks i think one more thing i think subscribers doesnt matter if he/she makes good conten like dont get me wrong i think 26k is a lot but u re a very good youtuber

[@Renzaru]

Thank you bro!

[@user-sp6uj3un6z]

ofc @@Renzaru

[@sbps18]

Renzaru woke up and decided to speak the language of fax

[@Renzaru]

ong bro

[@sbps18]

@@RenzaruHonestly mate as much as i wanted to get into the community the state of it atm with the inflation of unoriginal content put me off. The only thing ive done is upload a speedrun record of the clinic of evil waw map which im like 3rd on. Loads of respect for coming out and addressing the issue tho.

[@dankmctwist6575]

I couldn’t agree more personally. Theres also an issue with gatekeeping in the zombies community. I enjoy bo3 and played it a TON from 2015-2018, but It seems like a lot of members in this community get superiority complexes from the fact they played that title, and they disregard and look down on other members of the community’s who are newer and didn’t get to experience it. People who enjoyed cold war zombies often get dogpiled in replies. Ofc they are entitled to their own opinions on the newer zombies titles, But that level of elitism isn’t healthy for the mode, and will drive new players away.

[@stevenmichael12705]

I will say, the Rhoman title for the gauntlet video does say “I tried”. Kind of a bad example. Definitely agree with the sentiment and points made. Personally, I never made zombies content because of some of these reasons. Its sad to see how something that made my childhood has fallen so far

[@Renzaru]

It was the one title he changed after I brought it up. The story pretty much goes we were working on the same video by accident and he proposed a “race” to see who could get it out first, so I put in the time to actually learn and beat the gauntlets so it wasn’t just an attempt at them, then as I was on the final one he drops the video “Can You Beat EVERY Black Ops 4 Gauntlet SOLO”. After I saw that I asked if he could change it since he doesn’t beat a single one and since it was a title I was known for and I actually put in the work to beat them all, that’s where the DM’s of “you should try changing up your titles” came from, after a bit of arguing he agreed to change that title to I Tried, but it still shows my point of creators being selfish and the hypocrisy of saying people make lazy content then doing that.

[@stevenmichael12705]

@@Renzaru Aaah, I see. Sorry if you made this statement in the video, I kinda got lost in information around the mid point

[@TegoPvP]

My issue with this: I'm not very creative and im quite lazy, so I want to just play a zombies map that i know is good. This isn't an excuse to play something that had a video made on it before but i just wanted to say that.

[@Renzaru]

I appreciate the honesty

[@Andrew-sg6wv]

Ngl I clicked on that lex gauntlet video because I thought it was one of your videos lol 😂

[@Renzaru]

Thats wild

[@JackJackAttack1117]

I love your vids and a big fan but haven't you also made 50 perk challenge

[@Renzaru]

Experimented with it when it was still quite niche but just didn’t enjoy it so stopped, issue with it now is even when people don’t enjoy it or it does badly they continue to do it for some growth

[@JackJackAttack1117]

Ok thanks

[@peacefullzombies]

Damn bro you really shit on me, but honestly I don't blame you. I have never been creative and I know that can't be an excuse, but that is why I am moving on from zombies. I don't take this as hate, but more of a reason to think who I really am as a person. I appreciate you making this and I hope you find the best in life Renzaru. I enjoyed the videos we made together

[@Renzaru]

Never wanted it to come off as an attack to yourself, just wanted to show a point towards the entire community. I’m glad you at least admit to it, it’s the first step towards improving, something much better than what other KZbinrs do. I hope everything goes well for you in the future, heard you’re going onto GTA content, probably the best shout with GTA 6 round the corner. Again hope you all the best, we made some good videos and your help in the 24 hour video contributed to my success on KZbin. Wish you all the best!

[@buddhagams1]

My biggest issue with the community was KZbinrs hyping games before release, criticizing them harshly, then later claiming they were great. Their views are driven by nostalgia and a desire for clicks. Many started during the Black Ops 3 era and now focus on making quick money and low-quality content. They criticized Black Ops 2 at launch but later praised it. They called Advanced Warfare the end of zombies, then said it wasn't bad. They hated parts of Black Ops 3 until "Zombies Chronicles" was released. They bashed Infinite Warfare and World War II zombies, only to later praise them. The same pattern repeated with Black Ops 4 and Cold War. Now, with Black Ops 6, they're hyping it up, only to inevitably express disdain at launch.

[@Largebean22]

I want to make zombie videos so badly because I feel that I have some unique ideas, but I have basically no idea how to make videos. I have one recorded but I don’t know how to import it into my editing software lmao

[@Renzaru]

You just drag it into your editing software bro

[@Procedence]

Just reading the tittle yeah, they pretty much are, its a big mosh pit of the same content that happens and what's unique about it is just the creator and nothing else

[@Renzaru]

this is why people need to stop blatantly copying off each other and making their own content

[@JohnDoe-jc5kt]

Nice vid. I too saw waayyyy to many 50 perks vids, took forever to get out of my already messed up algorithm. It doesn't help that the few people left in zombies are mainly in BO3, while those who move on keep getting disappointed by newer zombies releases and possibly leaving, while bo3 is in limbo with the same vanilla maps (thanks goodness for mods). Moreover, bo3 is still at full price, so newer potential players are likely discouraged form getting into the game. I saw a noahj vid sometime ago where he hosted a map competition which had some pretty cool ideas by the community modders, those maps looked really cool. I also noticed that my Rofl feed spiked when MWZ released and he was just pumping out content 3 times a day, had to unsub because it got too repetitive as opposed to interesting theories or guides. Quite an unfortunate state, but it makes sense.

[@doccshady3609]

The zombies community crapping on Bo4 is what killed zombies. They made creative maps, with hard easter eggs and challenging gameplay and people complained about the UI (that's cluttered in every game since Bo3) and that the EEs were too difficult. So every game since has been pathetically easy with incredibly simple EEs.

[@stingraygaming9907]

My top 3 zombies creators are 1) Samuel the 17th (doesn't upload, miss the high round content a lot), 2) Lex (nostalgia really, since syndicate and lex were the first zombie creators I watched on yt), and 3) chrrism (doesn't upload, entertaining content). I agree with the overused/milked content. Like the 50+ perks vids. Watched like 2 fps psycho vids on it and one from someone else, and stopped clicking on them since... it got old🤷🏻‍♂️ same with watching ee runs, whether it's speed runs or in so many hours. Seen it done so many times that unless it's some new tech in the speed run or something new, it's just repetitive. Doesn't matter who makes it, the zombies community is very small so we all see everyone's vids pop up in our recommended. And when the thumbnails or content is exactly the same. I either don't click it or watch for a min or two and click off cause it's the same thing I've seen again and again. Would love if more content creators would play with each other and goof around on regular/custom maps like the vanoss crew does. Those were top notch vids back on bo3 with Noah, lex, and all the others did that as well.

[@Lbnsqdyt]

Bro your so fucking right man thank God that someone speaks about it. Especially these big cod zombies creators always stealing content from others and never doing something original (besides noahj456). The best example would be mrtlexify the kind of fell off this guy had over the last years is so sad all he does is react to other people's content or steal video ideas from other creators it's so sad what has happened to him.

[@withy_0611]

Waiting on that mrtlexify reaction video to this

[@Renzaru]

Hope he don't he will have steam out his ears lmao

[@bradugar]

Same thing happened to minecraft content where everyone jumps on the same trends lets say 100 days hardcore & than do the exact same concepts such as recreating every biome or making an end base to the point I've watched so many of these videos I have to question if I have seen that exact video before, but it is different just repetitive. No one has a personality to drive this kind of content, the whole vibe is 110 energy at all time. I miss the more relaxed KZbin gaming scene. In general, MC youtubers always trying to do bigger, better each video makes casuals hate themself for not being able to do what they see on KZbin cause they don't have 100's of hours for a silly block game.

[@Braden_NTC]

I try to be myself and original as possible when I make content. I know plagiarism will grow my channel but I want to do my thing

[@Renzaru]

Keep at it bro, I'm sure you'll see some growth soon!

[@bdoglvl]

Thats why i only sub to small channels because i feel the bigger channels dont need it as much as small channels do

[@Renzaru]

Big channels still benefit from subscribing, but tbh small channels are the ones who are mainly copying since they lack originality in their content

[@bdoglvl]

@@Renzaru true I just like when small channels interact with there viewers yeah both sides can be selfish but there's been a few who actually do original Ideas and spice things up

[@ItssDucki]

Definitely an interesting view on the community. I do think that there is an issue with people copying each other and not just in the zombies community. I truly don't mean to self promo here but I am planning on starting to make zombies content however, I don't just want to copy what everyone else is doing just because it works for them. I do think something like 50+ perks could be an interesting video but not if everyone has done it before. That's like me making an easter egg guide on all the black ops 3 zombies maps. everyone has done it and its outdated. I would rather see more zombies content creators reach out to each other and make content together that way its their personality that people are there for as well. Imagine this. I want to do a zombies spawn room challenge. It has been done THOUSANDS of times before so no one really cares to watch right? Now the exact same thing but with a twist. Zombie spawn room challenge but using advanced warfare movement or something random like that. Is that original? YES, you have taken an idea done before many times, added a twist to it and if you bring someone else its even better. Overall people need to stop gatekeeping content and look for other creators/friends that would make the content more original/fun.

[@Renzaru]

Interesting video idea, this is what I’ve always said, take an existing idea and put a twist on it to make it interesting and your own

[@crvsty28]

MrTLexify is the most overrated person in the community tbh, 95% of his videos are either clickbait or him watching someone elses video with a title that makes it seem like he put any effort into the video (great vid btw😘)

[@Renzaru]

Thank you, yeah he used to put out really good content but it seems like this is all he does now, so he's just ruined his reputation, could easily bring it back to what it was but chooses to ruin it with every vid.

[@theafilmssm]

Yeaaahhh, I kinda thought about the fact that a lot of it is kinda just stealing other ideas or maybe the same thing over and over, so I totally agree on everything you said, and its good to see someone talk about this Also, ZAMBYs CHANNEL IS GONE? WHAT HAPPENED?

[@Renzaru]

Showed NSFW stuff on stream by accident and KZbin terminated him

[@theafilmssm]

@@Renzaru dang, i loved that guy

[@CunkV]

4:45 Yeah, that's fair. While I tried to make the actual video a bit different by doing all of maxis & richtofen side & all chronicles eggs, the thumbnail & title are just blatant copies. I'm not saying this as an excuse but the reason for the blatant copy of the tags, thumbnail, & title was simply because of the mentality of, "If it worked for him, then it can work for me". I genuinely thought if I titled it differently, or changed the tags, or had a terrible thumbnail, then it wouldn't get any views at all. Nothing else. (Just so you know, there is no beef)

[@Renzaru]

Yeah bro it wasn’t a call out to be a dick or anything, I actually think the video was great. It was just an example to show that it’s a common thing throughout this community, everyone falls into that mentality when starting out don’t worry, it’s just about finding out your own style. Keep up the great work on KZbin and I hope you get lots of growth.

[@APerson-si8jr]

12:37 who is the guy you mention here? I'd like to check his channel out but I cant tell what you said his name was. Edit: Nevermind I found it by searching one of the video titles on screen. CivoHD

[@ziggyfumes]

I really think the targeted attacks on KZbinrs in older cods like bo3 is a big reason for the problem. Everything was good until they couldn’t play online or together anymore

[@zestymoon]

in regards to the gameplay channels, I would like to play devil's advocate. as interesting as many of the maps and mods are in customs, many of the maps/mods are derivatives of previous maps/mods. for example, there's a family guy map, a Simpsons map, and a breaking bad map I played with my friend a while back, all of them are the same concept of being in the neighborhood of the main character's houses. there's very little to differentiate between them. it's a bit Ironic now that I think about it. you suggest that youtubers pick from the massive pool of maps/mods that are in customs and not to play the exact maps/mods that other creators are playing, yet the majority of those maps/mods are copied concepts. speaking of irony, another thing about the massive pool of content is that it's almost impossible to determine what would be an interesting map/mod to cover because there's too many of them. when you have the amount of content spanning in the thousands, viewers are just incapable of being interested in all of them. so the youtube creator has to pick out a map that somehow stands out significantly from thousands upon thousands of maps every single video. youtube creators can't just roll the dice and pick a random map to play because of that. specially since gameplay channels have gameplay as the viewer's priority, and the creator's personality is a secondary factor. with these two factors, it's common for gameplay channels to get little to no views on their videos. and as I creator myself, spending a portion of your time making videos that you think would work only for it to not go as well as you want it to isn't a good feeling. it's much easier to copy the person getting the views since you know that has a higher chance of working for you. now again, this is me playing devil's advocate. I personally think that making your own content is much better in the long run. relying on trends instead of going your own risky path will eventually turn your channel into a conveyer belt of passionless videos. something I certainly wouldn't want for myself or any other fellow creator

[@Renzaru]

If you're gonna make content based on custom maps, it doesn't take as much effort as you might think, recording for 40 -60 minutes and editing it down isn't a hard task compared to something like analysis videos. Yes it might be a bit hard to look at a map and go "will that be interesting" but that's what the zombies community is lacking, smaller channels should be experimenting with different maps and mods. If people look up Family Guy Zombies Map, they ain't gonna click on a channel with 300 subs when FPS has made a video on it and has over 500k views, people will be naturally drawn to a video with more subs and views than one with lower. But if someone is posting something unique like a new mod or maps that people call "DLC 5" etc, someone is more likely to click on the video because its interesting and look past the sub count. Then when it comes to like every custom map being the same, that's just blatantly false lmao. I'm not sure where you've been looking but to compare something like Leviathan or Water Park to The Family Guy Map or The Simpsons map and say they are the basically the same is wild. There is so many new maps and mods coming out that are completely different from each other, unless you're looking at the 100th one window challenge posted to the workshop, then there is plenty of new maps to choose from. Then when it comes to just copying someone else to play it safe, I understand that feeling, everyone has to start off somewhere and some people do gain success starting out that way, but it's about giving credit to the creator you got the idea off, and then not making the thumbnails and titles the exact same, and just overall bringing your own style of videos to the platform, blatant copying doesn't help anyone especially the new creators. It's this mindset that I want to diverge new creators away from so we can start bringing in some new viewers to the community. I understand you're playing devils advocate, but lazy creators who just copy off others will look at this as a genuine defence towards their garbage content.

[@zestymoon]

@@Renzaru fair enough. I used to make warzone videos when I started my channel, and even when I was new to editing, it never took long to edit 20 minutes worth of footage to an 8 minute video. And as for the maps being similar, I was referring to them in a conceptual sense. Sure there’s exceptions like cheesecube, waterpark, octagonal ascension, etc. but those examples are some of the most popular maps in the work shop. I don’t claim that every single map is the same as there’s some exceptions of course, but the majority are concepts that derive from previous concepts done by others. Another example off the top of my head that I can think of is the clash royale map and the league of legends map. Superficially, The layout and style is different. But you can break down those maps the same way. Large arena survival map with the same perks and weapons and a buyable ending. When you see that multiple times, it becomes rather stale. (Btw this isn’t a defense for the channels, that’s a me thing as to why I stopped playing customs and rarely come back to it) Anyways it was a nice discussion. I played devil’s advocate to have a more fresh and detailed perspective on this topic. It would l help if I ever make a similar video in the future

[@evanguideyt]

This is why I do my own thing, I just fully stream zombies, doing challenges, high rounds, Easter eggs etc with some unique videos that I do, yes I don't have 10k+ subscribers but I've gathered a solid community and just look forward to entertaining people and vibing out tbh, I watched this entire video and there's some solid points, as I've noticed over the last year at least alot more people copying others video ideas for views, there's alot of ideas you could do off zombies especially with custom maps but yeah this community definitely would be better off trying to make their own channels unique and stand out instead of taking another person's video first that's my opinion tho, Imma just keep streaming and doing videos that I like doing anyways have a great day guys👍

[@yourbreakfast1681]

make a vid about u makin the uk's most world renowned dish to have ever existed u may have done that in a vid but that was the bo3 beanz boah o and whats weird is after watching this i just got a 50 perk challenge that was posted 19 hours ago

[@cameronscontentdump758]

Can you play games like Tarkov, The forest (with friends), shit even bloonsTD6. on the second channel? I'll watch any survival genre video you release. Thanks for the entertainment.

[@Dominoe82]

Wait what happened to Zamby?! I noticed he was just doing live streams for a while but didn’t know his channel was gone.

[@Renzaru]

He showed some nsfw stuff by accident on stream by accident and youtube terminated him

[@ATotalDork]

Yeah bit of an awkward way to learn Zamby's gone. Hopefully it's just YT being weird. Good channel

[@ATotalDork]

@@Renzaru ...seriously? Like, is this a bit or did he really show off his bits?

[@Dominoe82]

That really sucks. I hope the best for him.

[@Renzaru]

@@ATotalDork no lmao, he went on twitter and some nsfw stuff showed up

[@jakiyranmcarthur2499]

a great example of using the workshop is noahj456 and YAW. Hell noahj furthers that by starting to host custom map competitions for money and YAW has always been known in the zombies community just by playing custom zombies maps.

[@Renzaru]

Agreed

[@arctichelix6733]

I think theres one more reason. Treyarch trying to do new things and the zombies communities toxicity to them. If they kept with what they wanted to do with VG zombies it would have probably turned out to be a good mode with more time to cook. but the zombies community wanted to be the most toxic savage animals and forced the small team to pivot to round based.

[@vgpjuno2608]

I feel like if your gonna use the same idea as someone esle you should ask and credit them in the title like "Doing Renzura's Easter Egg Challenge". I feel like the most unique zombies youtuber is YouAlwaysWin and they just do there own style and stay out of everythimg.

[@Phi24]

Damn. my bro grieves is getting dragged 💀

[@Renzaru]

It’s feedback not hate

[@Phi24]

@@Renzaru Nah 100% I agree. It was just crazy seeing him pop up multiple times.

[@chigusa125]

I didn't know that zmb was gone

[@Renzaru]

Yeah they just got rid of him

[@Xyleniia]

as somebody who watches a LOT of content centered around zombies content, I just wish people would just respect one another more and actually give each other shoutouts instead of being as toxic and selfish as they've been. I've watched so many people throughout the years and most of 'em left because of the "lack of content" when in actuality its just them being too lazy and being unable to milk the same content they've been milking throughout the years. I don't get why people can't just shout one another out and make the community more positive and inviting rather than what it is right now, its all just the same content but with different creators, there's almost nothing unique left anymore which is REALLY upsetting, especially to people like me who don't care enough to watch anything related to MW3. its upsetting.

[@Renzaru]

Spitting facts bro, sucks as well because when everyone is copying each other, the original creators need to come up with new stuff which they then also copy. Hoping we can get a change going with this video!

[@SomeOne-vf1rs]

Go off!

[@Renzaru]

I will king!

[@qpgunslinger2288]

Goated video

[@bioshock_4]

I agree but people just don't care all they care about is views nothing else and what your doing for the community is good ps i don't care if i make no sense also keep up the good work

[@Renzaru]

Thanks bro, yeah hopefully things start to improve

[@NightmareValiant]

Ive had issues with the rhowan guy or whatever. He blatantly cheats in some of his videos too and acts like he survived "somehow"

[@happygrowIs]

Theres alot wrong w the community and alot of tubers have been a catalyst for this kind of stuff since the end of revelations. Didnt help when alot of people dunked on cold war when it was solidly the most coherently good game we've had since black ops 1 in terms of quality. (bo3's launch was horrific with the bugs and glitches, alot of people forget that). The lore guys atleast have been eating good since Cold War, the story is much easier to follow and actually has consistent writing, so that side has been doing good (aside from RoflWaffles, who imo fell off massively after bo3)

[@Jackpot-cd2jc]

4 minutes in and you are 100% accurate, think this is why so many people like your channel and are shocked your not bigger as you are genuinely the most original zombie creator at the minute.

[@Renzaru]

Appreciate that bro

[@jammy1232]

hear me out, What if a zombies youtuber tried to play a board game while doing an easter egg. like get 3 friends 1 who likes board games one who loves zombies you gotta play zombies with one of them and try to beat the other at fuckin Candyland or something and if you lose at one you gotta restart. It sounds fun on paper. i bet it would be funny to see.

[@genesismejia4315]

my fellow British man is spin fire

[@Renzaru]

We spitting facts over here.

[@juliecat420]

As somebody who got into Zombies in Late 2023 due to ur Videos. Thx for coming up with actually Watchable Content ❤.

[@Renzaru]

Thank you for watching, always tryna improve!

[@JackJackAttack1117]

I love your videos and I was wondering if you or someone from the comments could help me do the shadows easter egg I don't got friends

[@Renzaru]

Feel free to join the discord I’m sure someone will help you

[@JackJackAttack1117]

Ok

[@JackJackAttack1117]

@@Renzaru wait where do I find it

[@Renzaru]

@@JackJackAttack1117 description

[@JackJackAttack1117]

Thanks

[@user-zh2lg7ug5v]

Can’t wait for the lex reaction to this 😂😂😂😂

[@Renzaru]

I hope he doesn't or he will be grumpy

[@Tjrmax118]

another one🔥🔥🔥🔥

[@timmy6402]

Call of duty zombies really did fall so badly.

[@TheLavanderTown]

I let people hot mic it then post it

[@SalTheEmoKid]

This is a cool looking zombies map

[@Renzaru]

You're cringe

[@SalTheEmoKid]

😦

[@CodeNameFrostyy]

While these clickbait titles are awful, i do understand that it is very difficult to come across new content in the zombies community. If these people can't put their own spin on the video, then they should switch content. You have to be creative in the zombies community nowadays. It's awful that they're not even doing round based anymore. They're killing the creators. there's nothing you can do in outbreak and MWZ now

[@iceview34]

I sadly can agree

[@Renzaru]

It's a sad reality but someone had to say it

[@SomeOne-vf1rs]

The 50+ perk thing is actually a bigger issue than you think lol. You credit fpssycho (I can’t check how it’s spelled right now) for the 50+ perk thing but just before fps made his vids, I watched the same challenge done by another guy, angel6t4, using the same mod and doing the same thing way earlier. Fps either just had the same idea naturally, or copied angel and from there other people are copying fps. I’m not claiming he stole the idea, and even if he did who really cares, angel did it forever ago and playing another person’s mod isn’t like, intellectual property. Anyways your first real point is actually more significant than you explain in the vid.

[@Renzaru]

I see where you're coming from, I didn't credit FPS for the idea, even showing an example of someone who did it way earlier, his videos have just had a major hit in viewership and a lot of the videos look very similar to his

[@Angel6T4]

Been saying this! I'm glad that someone other than me noticed. I also did a few other things they somehow came up on their own to do, a week or even a few days later. Anyways, It's just how shit goes. Whoever popularizes it more will always be the one people credit.

[@SomeOne-vf1rs]

@@Angel6T4 Holy shit! Hey I actually really enjoyed the video you did on that mod. Sad that the idea’s just gotten so stale by everyone else doing it.

[@Renzaru]

@@Angel6T4 I’ve noticed this as well, Jar2EZ the person FPS called out for plagiarism was doing 50+ perk vids before him which I mention in my video. It’s hard to deny though that these copycats have only really popped up due to FPS.

[@Angel6T4]

@@SomeOne-vf1rs I appreciate it! And yeah, it's just the nature of things. There's always new ideas though (: