Zone Five Cold Climate Permaculture: Third Year Yard (PART1/2)

[@faehollowhomestead19]

This is wonderful! I was looking for someone else who was making content about temperate food forests like me! There’s not many of us out there, thank you for encouraging people and showing that you don’t need a tropical climate to make this happen! 🥰

[@TheHolmsteadWithJesseHolm]

Thank you for checking out the channel and for your support! Best of luck!

[@mandythislovelypath3740]

We are only 3 years on our property in Idaho, zone 4/5 depending on what map you look at. Your peaceful property is exactly what I'm aiming for. Thanks for sharing!

[@TheHolmsteadWithJesseHolm]

You'll definatley get there with enough time. I really haven't devoted much time to anything else since we bought this property! Winter is too long to spend any other season indoors! Best of luck, all my best and thanks for the positive comment!

[@healthesoils]

I’m in Ontario too! Thank you so much! Very relevant for me.

[@TheHolmsteadWithJesseHolm]

You are very welcome!

[@KimOfDrac]

You can harvest the flowers of elderberries too. So if you have two trees you can harvest the flowers of one every other yeear so you shift between them to get berries from one and flowers from one you can still get the medicinal benefits from it. You can make surup from them for example to use as cough medicine either with honey or birch sap if you don't want to use sugar :)

[@shingj4007]

Good idea!!

[@Vincent_Desjardins]

When i'm done with school and get a good job, i'm gonna do the same but here in Quebec. I'm sub'ing and hoping to see more from you!

[@TheHolmsteadWithJesseHolm]

Merci monsieur! I will continue to make videos and hope that people find them useful! Thanks again for the positive comments and good luck with you schooling!

[@cecemimi101]

Ohhhh Quebec? I’m exited to see what you’re gonna grow in the freezing cold that’s gonna be pretty cool

[@viniceduring1402]

In Nebraska and looking into homesteading and a permaculture

[@TheHolmsteadWithJesseHolm]

You cant go wrong with trying, you'll learn as you experience each season and year. I promise, you will progress!

[@carlahabeck4051]

Have enjoyed many of your videos, watching from NE Washington near the Canadian border. Very much interested of what you are planting and hopevto find some in our area. I'm in my 70s and trying to get a temperate zone food forest going. Looking forward to more content.

[@shingj4007]

I'm in Illinois zone 5b, wish I had found your channel (a gold mine) last year which is my first year of planting other than flowers. I subscribed right away. Could you please tell me where did you buy your pawpaw trees from? Thank you.

[@slavicnetcom]

Elderberry LOVES WET SOIL. Their natural habitat is by the creeks. Your shrub is trying to "move" toward the water you have on your property. Generally, the plant is not very invasive, but needs to be controlled. In Europe we use the flowers to make juices. Here in Canada, berries are the primary treat.

[@TheHolmsteadWithJesseHolm]

They are very good! The soil in this section of the yard is completely saturated, I'm surprised that they have had to move. Thank you for the information and have a good day!

[@Michelle-vg5zh]

To discourage deer, l wrap a heavily perfumed soap like Coast and Irish Spring in a small rags or nylon hose and using bread ties, tie them onto the trees and bushes and brambles the deer eat. I have a small property, l can't afford to eat my tribe AND the wildlife. ///l appreciate that you "advertise" that you're in zone 5. It makes it much easier for me to follow your advise without trying to figure out the logistics. Thank you!

[@TheHolmsteadWithJesseHolm]

Not a problem! Thanks for the positive feedback and advice!

[@StevieWonders2020]

Sambucus Elderberry: Any ideas for the small plot grower who needs to CONTAIN Elderberry? Also, gardeners needto KNOW that sambucus/Elder requires a companion elder to properly pollinate....sadly they might not get this info when buying plants.

[@trollforge]

Great editing Jesse! ;)

[@viniceduring1402]

I have 1/2 acre...how do I stop the rabbits, woodchucks and deer...?

[@TheHolmsteadWithJesseHolm]

Fences will be your best friend for rabbits. If you can find a way to permanently keep deer away, let me know.. irish spring or into chunks and hung from lower branches seems to be moderately effective. Best of luck!

[@TheHolmsteadWithJesseHolm]

I really have no knowledge regarding woodchucks, sorry.

[@crazysquirrel9425]

I watch all videos at the lowest resolution that is offered. Saves EXPENSIVE data plan that way.

[@carlahabeck4051]

Could you share the name of the company/s you get your fruit trees from.

[@markduric7812]

Likely wiffle tree nursery on the paw paw selections

[@ML-df9pf]

Did you grow your pawpaws from seed?

[@TheHolmsteadWithJesseHolm]

No, I wish that I had, but I thought I could save a year, or two with potted plants. They have been very slow getting established, but being shaded for the first two years, I expected they would be. I expect to have some good growth from them in the spring and summer.

[@jonathanblanchard6480]

It looks like a lot of ferns...do you fertilize the fruit plants?

[@TheHolmsteadWithJesseHolm]

We do use some fertilizer, but it has been a slow process. We have used a combination of wood chips (minus bark), grass clippings, ash, compost and leaves. Most of our fruit trees are three years old, or less and have just begun fruiting. Unfortunately we had a tremendous amount of rain this year for five full days as soon as the blossoms opened on many cultivars. It literally knocked about 95% of the flowers right off of the trees, hopefully 2020 brings better conditions. And yes, we do have a lot of ferns in the shaded portions of the lot, they taste great!

[@jonathanblanchard6480]

@@TheHolmsteadWithJesseHolm I have the same hardy zone, and I have similar varieties, but I don't have much growth. I figured out the sun pools and now the deer, rabbit and other damages need to be reckoned with. The weed and insect problems are common. You are doing something right, and I don't know why there isn't more like that. Keep on keeping on...

[@TheHolmsteadWithJesseHolm]

@@jonathanblanchard6480 I have a lot of deer and rabbit concerns too. It may sound strange, but deer really dont like the smell of people. If you can get ahold of hair (my sister is a hair dresser) it really helps. Rabbits also absolutely will not cross a border of human urine (I have my sons do their thing around the borders of the garden regularly). I have literally seen them sniff at the edge of the garden and turn immediately and leave. I also cut weeper tile to appropriate lengths, ran a blade down the length and placed them around younger trees to protect from rabbits earlier on. It works well, but ensure you take them off from time to time to keep mice from crearing homes in them. These are just a couple of ideas! Dont give up!

[@jonathanblanchard6480]

@@TheHolmsteadWithJesseHolm hi, I have tree wraps, but could do more, some fencing, but again, could do more. I did liquid gold, but didn't notice any full stop, although it might have limited them, but haven't tried human hair. I am trying to account for the area management, and I understand more than before. It could be that the three, mile square areas around me hold up to two hundred deer. Then the front road and rural/urban sprawl zone add a buffer, but hold the managers of the mono crops and trailer plots that sometimes burn up as meth labs. You really show growth, and I want to replicate it. But some additions may be hunting to stock the freezers and fencing to create a no-go zone. The surrounding corn/deer club becoming urban sprawl is what I am trying to describe. If my neighbors were getting the results you show, then there would be a better co-operative. I like fishing, but haven't started wild game shooting yet.

[@TheHolmsteadWithJesseHolm]

@@jonathanblanchard6480 it sounds like you'll always have a pretty severe deer issue. The best advice I can give is to build a double fence and to place rocks around either outside edge. Deer dislike walking on rocks due to slippage and rarely want to tangle with a double layered fence. I'm not sure on height and spacing, but it will work well and provide great structure for vines. Perhaps some berry bushes between fences to utilize the space. It's a large project, but you can get it done cheaply if you have the resources around your lot. I built a split rail fence around out perennial and annual garden and we love it! You can check out the video if you're interested! Best of luck!

[@veefriend4201]

At 12:45 - Do you mean Romeo cherries (a shrub)?

[@TheHolmsteadWithJesseHolm]

Nope, they are Aronia berries (Viking variety), or commonly known as Chokeberry. I have heard them called Choke Cherries when I was a child growing up in rural central Ontario as well. They are native to Ontario and do well in moist and swampy conditions. They are definately not a cherry proper, no pits (small seed located inside the fruit). They have thrived, not even showing any signs of shock after transplanting them!Thanks for the question!

[@veefriend4201]

@@TheHolmsteadWithJesseHolm Thank you kindly, Jesse. They're also native to the prairie provinces. I intend to get a couple. They make the most delicious syrup, but I'm off sugar nowadays, so will plant them for the birds. I bought a half acre property May of 2018, 5 hours north of zone 7. People thought I was quite mad as I'm in my 70's, but I'm strong and healthy and very resourceful; so far, so good. The property was an empty palate, so am now going to start a food forest. The first two seasons I concentrated on a raised bed garden and turned half of the old barn/shed into a greenhouse. I live in zone 5b and am delighted to search out so many cold hardy fruits and berries. Last year I planted 4 blackberry and 3 kiwis, but they didn't survive, sad to say. It may be that I wasn't preparing the holes large enough with the right soil amendments. I'll try again this year with more care. An expensive lesson. I bought 8 cattle panels that make great arbors for vining plants Undoubtedly you've seen these on various sites. Cheers from Sawmill Cottage (built 1962), Vee

[@TheHolmsteadWithJesseHolm]

@@veefriend4201 best of luck!

[@degeneratepoker]

Where about are you located?

[@TheHolmsteadWithJesseHolm]

We are located at the southern point of Georgian Bay, north of Toronto.

[@degeneratepoker]

@@TheHolmsteadWithJesseHolm thanks. I appreciate the video. I’ve been researching permaculture a lot over the past few years and started a homestead on 2 acres in NC, but I grew up in BC, Canada and your growing zone and accent made me think you might be in BC. Either way, I appreciate your videos. Most influencers are in warmer climates and I’ve been trying to find more content on Canadian grow zones just in case I make my way back to Canada. Keep doing what you are doing. I love seeing it. @cardinalfarmshomestead on instagram for photos of my place, though I have lacked content for a little bit.

[@TheHolmsteadWithJesseHolm]

@@degeneratepoker thank you very much. I lived in Alberta for about a year and traveled to BC several times, what an amazing place! I appreciate your encouragement. Best of luck with whatever you decide. Cheers.

[@StevieWonders2020]

Also, these are trees/shrubs, not "plants" in the normal sense for the smaller gardener....

[@MiddleEastMilli]

PawPaws can be freezed!

[@TheHolmsteadWithJesseHolm]

I can't wait to have have an annual production of them!

[@MiddleEastMilli]

@@TheHolmsteadWithJesseHolm :)

[@mayamachine]

I love my pawpaw! sure you will too

[@peterellis4262]

I was disappointed when you said you wouldn't be giving latin names because you were sure people didn't want to hear that. People who actually want to know what plants you are growing do want the latin names, because common names frequently apply to more than one plant and using them can create confusion. I'm in zone 6, making me quite interested in what you are growing, but I AM specifically looking for scientific names for plants, in order to be confident I am looking at the 'right' plants.

[@TheHolmsteadWithJesseHolm]

That's fair, but these videos take a significant amount of time to produce and with four children to raise and hundreds of plants, I am simply not willing to invest any more of my energy into research. The names I provide are the names on the tags at the nursery when the species wa purchased. Good luck with your projects.

[@derodemolisher506]

Hi

[@TheHolmsteadWithJesseHolm]

Hi kiddo!

[@oldtimefreedom]

The Che T-shirt prevented me from adding a thumbs up...

[@TheHolmsteadWithJesseHolm]

That's ok, I bought it as a teen that thought he knew more than he did. If it's any consolation, I have learned much more about the man having worn it to record a video than I ever anticipated.

[@oldtimefreedom]

@@TheHolmsteadWithJesseHolm well, then your comment got a like!