Zone Guide (Part 1 - Controlling Zones)

[@themuffinprincesa21]

Love how detailed your guides are getting in the smaller things like zone control

[@ScrapComputer]

Why thank you Muffin, i hope it helps ;)

[@themuffinprincesa21]

+ScrapComputer I took the ability zone being larger as advice in a game I just finished. Used mordekaiser w to zone out akali of cs heavy and she didn't exsist for my team that game

[@viosupwerdoze29]

yeah, these are generally the best guides

[@cryotheum]

this was definitely among the best videos you've ever done, nice work!

[@ScrapComputer]

Thank you very much smart!

[@jhonnylacksville6765]

just wanted to tell you, your guides are the best available, and your very detailed. sometimes i need to re watch twice to catch your words through the accent, but there is nothing like you. congrats on being a detailed guide maker worthy of recommending. double thumbs wayyy up

[@jhonnylacksville6765]

id go as far to say your vids are mandatory before playing ranked, and should be featured, good luck to you

[@thomasdeg3348]

ive climbed from bronze V to Bronze 2 in 3 weeks, alot of my knowledge about league and positioning has come from your awesome detailed videos. You're da real MVP

[@ScrapComputer]

Fiwomy, i'm really happy to hear that, keep up that grind and i'll see you in diamond soon ;)

[@KingOfLimbs]

At last, the zone guide! Thank Scrap, can't wait for part 2!! I have been learning on how to zone the enemy off CS. These two guides should help me improve even more.

[@ScrapComputer]

Aww no worries magpie! This one took ages :D

[@merkoka6991]

I love how detailed this guide is. I am looking forward to seeing part too as soon as you can get it released. You've earned yourself a new subscriber as a recent convert to adc from support/jungle.

[@joaodavid2441]

There's some abilitys that makes minions agro on you. Example, Ezreal's Q.

[@SangoProductions213]

why do the minions in your gameplay instantly deaggro when you move away, but in mine, they will chase me down past the minion wave, unless I find a brush to hide in?

[@vorrakedryom6547]

The aggro zone of minions is a bit larger than what ScrapComputer shows, I believe. Plus, if one of your minion is attacking the minion chasing you, it will loose aggro more quickly. I've also got this problem of getting too much minion aggro when i'm cocky and want to dominate lane, I found that being the farther possible from enemy minions help to not take aggro from them = stay in your minions or behind.

[@Autoswitched]

Walk through your minion wave, and they'll deaggro and aggro onto nearby minions, good players who openly harass players use this as it means they minimize damage when no brush is available.

[@13lightFall]

Another great guide so far. I agree, this is definitely one of the more important ones I can recall from you. I'm actually really excited for part two (and more if there is that much content to cover). I don't know if you are planning on covering this specifically, but I think this gives a very interesting consideration to the strength of Illaoi, and in a similar way, to the reworked Zyra. The fact that they passively claim additional zones that can dynamically alter their pressure in lane. I think it would be good for you to at least mention these if you get a chance. And one more very important one that I strongly, strongly, hope that you mention is Taliyah. She can actually counter zone herself with her worked ground. By creating worked ground, she doesn't decrease her zone range, but does decrease her zone pressure. I hope you understand what I'm talking about. You are probably much better at explaining it.

[@SuperTheLaquitaMan]

love the videos you do i was able to learn about all the champions lane tactics movement and much more, i'm glad you broke down everything in your videos.

[@ScrapComputer]

Thank you ender man :)

[@oicmorez4129]

you get veigar's e zone wrong. Its zone is actually BIGGER than q zone because its effect affect objects futher away than actual spell range you can see that at 3:54

[@Anthropic]

Well done Scrap. This is a great video. can't wait for part 2.

[@crazywoollady9325]

I don't see a part 2 anywhere

[@sefspanjo7773]

Neven again have I seen a more detailed and in depth guide about zones. And it is a quality all your videos are starting to acquire! Your work is excellent and professional man, keep it up! P.S. I rarely comment on youtube videos!

[@ScrapComputer]

I really appreciate the comment Spiros, all i want to do is help, and i hope this video was useful for you!

[@ultrafirefx]

Also, when behind minions, Lissandra's Q makes an even larger zone because it can shatter and go further.

[@danieldigital9333]

Thanks for work and the time you give to make these helpful videos :) . You taught me more important things than any other youtuber. Thank you.

[@ScrapComputer]

Not a problem Daniel, i hope it helps! Best of luck on the rift my man :)

[@vorrakedryom6547]

ADCs try to avoid playing around bushes in botlane because they are afraid of the "phantom zone" created by the enemy support if he enters the other bush, and have low reaction time to say a Blitz grab or a Zyra root. By entering the bush, they also deny their support the ability to play around that phantom zone because they'll reveal him if they auto from the bush (by mistake or if they didn't understood the concept of playing around the vision with the bushes). Please correct me if I'm wrong.

[@OrangesII]

This was an amazing video and very informative keep up the good work. I'm ready for part two! :)

[@ScrapComputer]

Thank you Zander! I hope you enjoyed it!

[@janmajchrzak500]

i see much work and effort put into the video to satisfy the viewers. thanks!

[@ScrapComputer]

Np, hope it helps :)

[@capngg6447]

Can't wait for Part Deux - The Second One!

[@Arvensa]

Could you put credit for the non-RIOT images you use (e.g. 0:00 ) in the description?

[@TheOoorrrr]

10:33 aggro is given through every attack that causes on-hit effects (check, Ezreal q)

[@georgia3517]

Auralion Sol was the one champion that really helped me learn about zones (before watching this), after playing him I'm much more scared of melee champs XD But much thank for the video, very help, such knowledge :3c

[@ScrapComputer]

Thank you very much Georgia!

[@Swodish]

+ScrapComputer Thank you for a good video. just the video i needed to improve my skills. greetings from swedish...

[@ScrapComputer]

SWEDISH I LOVE YOU!

[@Swodish]

+ScrapComputer Dude dude chill...... I love you too, you sexy animal.

[@GetPastTheMonkey]

"I also stream at Twitch.tv guys" he said on the day he usually streams but for some reason he doesn't... Skrappa Nice vid btw, can't wait for part 2 :D

[@therealpickle1229]

Can't wait for sunday's tourney

[@KingOfLimbs]

That's because he's too busy working the tournament....Skappa :) Notice how he used Veigar for his example?

[@mcnt9506]

a good way i learned to see if a bush is warded (i mained sup for a while still do now and again) is get attacked by a minion and run into the bush, if they keep attacking me when im in it its warded, simplez. wouldve been nice to know before i thougt their blitz couldnt see me though

[@flergum]

Can't wait for part 2

[@andrew-sn5vv]

I want to let you know something about bush aggro that you didn't mention or I think was briefly mentioned. If the enemy has warded the bush OR you auto inside the bush, minion aggro will still attack you so it only works if the enemy doesn't have vision of you in the bush.

[@vorrakedryom6547]

If you auto'ed from inside the brush, walk out and another time in, you'll loose aggro.

[@andrew-sn5vv]

By that time, usually someone wards or the enemies back off. It’s a good tip to use in harass, but it’s not something a marksman should rely on

[@adyzabady3313]

Hey ScrapComputer! Lately I've been playing ALOT of Tristana and I'm maining her now, but I feel I'm missing some detailed stuff about her. Can you please make a new Tristana guide since she was reworked and your guide for her is outdated? Thanks for all the effort you put in your videos and keep up the good work! :D

[@quangvinhtran349]

I hope u will make a pick your poking champ guide because i think it will be very interesting to watch

[@waroftheworlds2008]

So what about auto attacking from behind your minions? That seems to be the standard in harassing. Free damage with no minion agrow.

[@alexroufxd]

nice work mate 😄 keep up the good work! bronze 4 here i come kappa

[@smokearts3716]

Rofl xD

[@allenwright123]

No kidding, he helped me get from B5 0 LP to B3 series

[@smokearts3716]

+Allen Wright i carryed myself up to b2 from b5 xD

[@martinmihov175]

you are a god

[@nevevillanueva]

i never thought this way! thank you :)

[@ScrapComputer]

No problem Neve!

[@akenero3369]

karthus is REALLY good with zone control

[@trifezios8441]

Good work on the video, keep it up!

[@ScrapComputer]

Thank you!

[@psycoNaughtplaysMCPC]

I live using control mages because I get to toy with my opponents before deciding to destroy them once I reach lvl6, however if I get my hands on champions like Irelia or Volibear there is nothing they can do (well at least in my elo)

[@conan7565]

Nice work Scrap

[@ScrapComputer]

Thank you Conan!

[@valciajm]

One day I'll get that masters/challenger scrap one day xD

[@ScrapComputer]

I believe! :)

[@harvardford8752]

WAZZUP MAN new to your channel will you be having an updated yasup guide? would love that much love from canada! :D

[@dudeman1655]

Gj mate love videos. Very well done.

[@ScrapComputer]

Hope it helps Christian.

[@georgpollath1271]

hello scrap computer, can you speak how to get not zoned to harf against blitzcrank?

[@ScrapComputer]

- Ward the bush - Pick Morgana support - Pick Ezreal / Other mobile ADC = Win game.

[@NovaDrakers]

where did he get that picture. i want it

[@henchjobb]

You should mention about that some zones are more dangerous that other (Corki is a good example)

[@yoka9406]

Toxiic Nico Wait for part 2

[@henchjobb]

yoka I ment that he should mention it in the next part xd

[@federicomafrici2198]

hey scrap , i've got a question for you .. i'm italian and recently some youtuber started to say that lol is dying ... cause everybody is starting playing overwatch .. what do you think about it ?? thank you in advance ^^

[@yoka9406]

federico mafrici Well league certainly didn't die so don't worry, and it's not going to die either :)

[@LiLTruffle420]

easy to understand easy to master and improves gameplay kee pit up grate job :)

[@ScrapComputer]

Thank you Omega, hope it helped!

[@regem9121]

The use of circles in 6:14 is kinda confusing, you should've used lines tbh.

[@nemanjadraganic7522]

can u give ur background of the start of the video

[@ScrapComputer]

lolwallpapers.net/wallpaper/9051

[@Patrikcotrim]

i would like to see you talk about controlling zones with azir :DDD

[@vorrakedryom6547]

Same than Viktor, but you can move your soldiers and yourself around by dashing, so he has a rather great zoning potential.

[@150Mewtwo]

TIL abilities don't catch minion aggro. ty a lot :D

[@ScrapComputer]

Np! Hope it helped!

[@YFVE]

Where is the 2nd part?

[@KumaBearOso]

Need help visualizing zones? Want an easy way to apply this into your own gameplay? Play Aurelion Sol. After a few games this concept will be burned into your head. You're welcome

[@ScrapComputer]

This is a great point :)

[@ahmedbabar6823]

pls detailed analysis of katarina pls +scrapcomputer

[@vorrakedryom6547]

Just like Lissandra, she can tp onto someone / on a ward and use her spells, so she has a greater theoretical range than her effective range. Plus, with every kill she resets her CD, increasing each time her potential range.

[@tingwang1685]

Please make an aatrox guide

[@sergikotrikadze3053]

what division are u scrap?

[@ScrapComputer]

Diamond 5, nearly D4 :)

[@NixonRexzile-xz4sq]

where is part 2?

[@Obito313]

I love you guides, but why aren't you challenger?

[@ScrapComputer]

I don't play much ranked, only this year have i played over 100 games of ranked and i'm diamond 5 nearly 4 already with a 62% winrate :)

[@bawehjerox5030]

So after playing the game for 4 years I learned today that abilities do not draw minion aggro... Thanks!

[@ScrapComputer]

Haha i just hope it helps my friend!

[@mcnt9506]

i wonder if someone new watched this, about the minion part, and vs'd a renekton XD

[@adampolk2104]

MCNT052 lol

[@INoelNoelNoel]

stopped watching after 6 minutes.. too much useless info, all of it is just common sense. 3:13 him taking a whole minute to explain that he just used his q.

[@gustavgille9323]

The whole point is that he is going in on small details

[@jdguitarman123]

My face when you complain about that fact that you cant climb elo because of noobs you cant carry, there are people that are bronze 5 standard that would know nothing about this, it would be a completely new concept

[@INoelNoelNoel]

Gustav Gille theres a difference between going into small detail and repeating yourself 7 times.

[@INoelNoelNoel]

Joe Darlington noobs would have to know what the champions do in order to know where the zone is in the first place.... which they would automatically know as soon as the know the champ. no video needed

[@clashofclans-tarboosh1205]

ur profile pic is perfect for ur comment xD

[@Areyouduckingserious]

Hey man, I know this is an older video. But might I suggest slowing down just a tad? Your accent, the speed that your speaking, and me trying to learn made it a bit hard to follow. I'm not saying slow down by a significant margin, but just enough to keep up :D

[@laurentbijman8845]

scrap computer i have a problème i'm level 30 bronze 2 and i don't know what item i Will buy, i pick all ways the same item and it sometime work but i losse a lot can you make a vidéo about what item must buy to counter ( vayne tresh...) i play bot if you can help we it Will be great 😉 love you from belgium 😙

[@xxLoveSombodyxx]

awesome vid :D

[@ScrapComputer]

Thanks moonlight! :)

[@jianhonglin4294]

veigar stun zone is bigger.

[@chrishopp5998]

I was going to comment this, since the stun edge extends out from the cast range (since cast is in middle of stun).

[@GubbiGap]

This is just want I need to land more flash q's on Thresh xD

[@ScrapComputer]

We all want this ;)

[@GubbiGap]

ScrapComputer So true xD

[@kipnaplayer5185]

erm 00:20 wtf turret range?

[@truesilver8624]

NORTHERN IRELAND MADE IT THROUGH THE GROUP STAGE OF THE EUROS!!!

[@david_broz]

This video is 50% wrong. Yes ranges are nice but you forgot to mention "cost" of entering each zone and how the cost changes. For example entering Veigar's W zone means that he casts W on you... if you are not under CC it is harmless, you just sidestep it and you do not need Faker level of reaction, cost almost 0. Give it entering the zone you are also in zone of Morgana's Q that thing is much more scarier now. it goes from gentle sidestep to left to 1/2hp down. And there is much more to cover and i feel like you ignored this side of the problem. Overall you have some good ideas in there.

[@yoka9406]

David Brož You do know that there is a part two coming and that he will probably mention this in that video?

[@david_broz]

Yoko, do you know that this was made 5 months ago and part 2 is still not out? Also it means nothing even if it was mentioned in second video. As I said "This video is 50% wrong" not the second video not the third one, this one. Also after watching few more videos of ScrapComputer i have decided that even if it came out I would not watch it.

[@yoka9406]

David Brož not mentioning something doesn't mean he's wrong, and yes 5 months is rly long for part 2 XD

[@juliusg7550]

Does anyone own a rare tag in EUNE? Can I join?

[@Vinnywestside]

Reasons to script? :P Nah, showing how to improve. Good Job man 😘

[@daweiyu8990]

this looks alot like how scripts actually work. is that how scripts actually dodge like crazy ?

[@henkdesjaak9650]

Lol best counter to the botlane bush zonecontrol is rush b.

[@waroftheworlds2008]

Henk De sjaak yeah... im surprised he didn't mention using skills with some kind of collision animation.

[@111vincento]

is this guide targeted to bronze players?

[@ScrapComputer]

Nope, it's targeted for ANY player in the game at any level that doesn't understand zones.

[@111vincento]

ScrapComputer same difference

[@IvanReferral]

A plat player teaches us how to play league.

[@Swodish]

He don't play ranked so often. that's why his rank is so low.

[@vorrakedryom6547]

What then ? Having knowledge of the game is different from being able to apply them while playing. He may not use that knowledge properly while playing, but the theoretical part of what he says is correct and can be applied at all elos. Plus, are you plat+ ? do you play the same role he does ? he may have different knowledge about the game than you do, thus listening to him is a good way to learn more about League.

[@pixxyprincess9414]

SCRAP NOTICE ME SENPAI

[@ScrapComputer]

I notice! I notice!

[@pixxyprincess9414]

+ScrapComputer pogchamp

[@Wenslo]

But, but... I play jungle.

[@ScrapComputer]

STILL APPLIES!

[@OfficialDuckox]

4Head

[@ScrapComputer]

5Head? :)

[@OfficialDuckox]

ScrapComputer is that another way of saying you're blown away by my epic prescence? 4Head

[@Anthropic]

First. :D

[@xxLoveSombodyxx]

seconddd

[@alex89wysh20]

nooo why i wana be first:))

[@pixxyprincess9414]

Sixty-nineth

[@KingOfLimbs]

Not fair, you are in Australia, so you are in tomorrow a day before we are...lol

[@xxLoveSombodyxx]

+MrMagpie33 I'm not in australia >:D haha xD

[@DzRoDan]

Try to get better at pronouncing mate

[@ScrapComputer]

I'm good already. It's just an accent/dialect you're unfamiliar with :)

[@DzRoDan]

+ScrapComputer yap yap I know but you can improve your way of speaking English. I was just saying anyways. Good content ^^