M1 Mac Mini vs Intel - Is Intel ACTUALLY Better?

[@ZONEofTECH]

The Intel Mac Mini managed to outperform the M1 Mac Mini in a lot of cases! Would you still pick the M1 model, or would you go with Intel, because of eGPU, Windows support & more?

[@dvxAznxvb]

Does it outperform in the price benchmark? No..... no it does not

[@skyelannon]

@@dvxAznxvb lol

[@johncaling6150]

m1 because longer life

[@Leo-ph5dk]

How come when maxxtech did this comparison the m1 won in most cases and even outperformed iMacs in most cases or was on par

[@johncaling6150]

@@Leo-ph5dk Hmm

[@mannopson]

$700 vs $1999 I would take M1 anyway. Because it’s cheaper and also faster too.

[@bunsmom]

My M1 has too many bugs to use from the moment I turned it on it has been NOTHING but issues. $1400.00 in the TRASH

[@LynxoneYT]

@@bunsmom no it doesn’t

[@jameswilkins3813]

@@bunsmom Lol, sure.

[@HuyNguyen-ll9gz]

@@bunsmom yeah...

[@amberraining9546]

I still stick with Intel (sound engineer here) and never regretted it. So many extremely valuable apps and plugins are at service, I can have windows and I even played RDR2 on Ultra. Maybe I’m sticking to some old things dunno.. but I love it.

[@terrynitro5330]

I'm wondering why the M1 Mini was crippled with only 8gigs of ram vs the Intel with 32gb ram? Faster and larger storage and running an external GPU really doesn't seem like a reasonable comparison. Unlike others, I'd say this comparison is pretty lopsided - an unfair comparison at best.

[@bigdmc6459]

That shows you the M1 Mac mini is a beast. It’s also off the shelf model if you want more ram it’s like a 9 day delivery. I ordered the 16gb ram with 256ssd came from HK.

[@jcolt84]

One would think that the reason Apple continues to sell Intel computers is because they have an overstock of Intel chips that they need to use up.

[@piotrd.4850]

And production lines in Foxconn running and similar stuff.

[@bigusiak]

The reason why they still sell Intel base because many tools for developers are not optimized for M1 yet.

[@loreaver3882]

@chippster stephens m2 mac mini should have a 32gb option

[@ariukkonen5878]

That timeline seemed seemed artificially heavy and unlikely that most would have 5 videos at once. You likely were running into memory issues and the light room example was also contrived as you were running the Intel version. The fact that the arm mac was only a few seconds slower batch processing all of those photos is astounding because it was running emulated code.

[@nachtaktiv]

While I was wating for my Mac Mini (Intel) order, the M1 came out and I really considered to cancel the order and buy the M1. But I'm a music producer and I work with a lot of 3rd party plugins that aren't ready now and my main DAW (Cubase) is also not ready for the M1. I also wanted 32 GB of RAM, so I went with the Intel. But working on a big project with lots of plugins and tracks, the Mac Mini is really loud and it is getting hot. That problem I'd dont had with the M1 I think. If the "Pro" version really comes out, I maybe sell the Intel and buy a M1 (or M2? ;))

[@davegarth]

M1 for my primary apps of Lightroom, Photoshop and Final Cut Pro. When Adobe comes out with optimized versions early next year, the speed differences M1 vs Intel will be even greater.

[@voltecrules624]

So it doesn’t seem fair to compare the 8 gig ram M1 vs the 32 gig ram Intel + GPu at significant additional cost. At least get comparable ram in each.

[@bigbubba0439]

Yeah, plus there's the big factor that the M1 performs very similarly to the Intel and in many ways out-performs it, when they're about 400 dollars in price difference

[@micksmithson6724]

So what you're saying is that an i7 Mac mini, with 32GB of RAM and 2TB of storage (Price from Apple £2,599 with 10Gbe) and an RX5700XT GFX Card (£400ish) and an enclosure (say £325) total of around £3200, often beats a £599 Mac mini ??? For 5 times the price I would be somewhat angry if it didn't. The M1 Mac mini is a replacement for the i3 Mac mini, I would like to see a test against that. And adding the EGPU if you want to but if your prepared to spend so much on an EGPU, wouldn't you just buy an i9 16" MBP and trouser £600?

[@saajith]

8:00 could also be the ssd capacity, as higher capacity ssd's often come with better read/write performance and have more iops that could help with random writes.

[@SamAdamsDesigns]

This is insane. I’m so glad I went for the 16GB Mac mini. I was so close to buying a used 2018 Mac mini or iMac so I didn’t have to wait for shipping.

[@marekstepanek1214]

Hey man thanks for comment do you recommend to buy Mac mini m1 2020 16gb or 2018 32gb. I am graphic designer

[@SamAdamsDesigns]

@@marekstepanek1214 I would recommend the M1.

[@marekstepanek1214]

@@SamAdamsDesigns thanks man!

[@davidbartulovic2298]

You didnt mention anything about the compatibility The M1 chip uses ARM architecture while Intels cpus use x86 architecture so if you wanna run a microsoft programm well then get the intel model Thats just my opinion

[@amberraining9546]

True. And many other apps

[@FrancisdeBriey]

Very very VERY good analysis. In the conclusion, you just missed one reason to use the intel macmini : the possibility to run natively windows apps on windows 10 with bootcamp. I am a developer and I use 2 intel macminis with windows server installed on them. The best dev machines ever consuming 15W in idle mode. SUBSCRIBED !!!

[@DeepakBhakoo]

I started watching the video and my brother brought the customary snacks. I paused the video and threw him along with the snacks out of my room. Thank you. Let’s continue.

[@andyH_England]

Depends what you are using the Mac Mini for? The thing with the mini is that it misses out on one of the big advantages of the M1 chip, the low-power cores, ergo battery life. So you are really buying the Mac mini for the performance. However, as this is a new platform that performance is at the cost of some features. That is where you need to make a decision as to Intel -v- Apple Silicon?

[@DeadBeatCousin.]

Best review on these two I’ve seen online so far! I will be getting the M1 with an upgrade: 1. 3.2GHz 8-Core CPU 2. 8-Core GPU 3. 16GB Unified Memory (+180) 4. 1TB SSD Storage (+180) 5. 10 Gigabit Ethernet (+90) 6. Pro Apps Bundles (+200) Total: $1,500 plus tax Will be using my setup to create and edit videos for my online platforms and my online businesses!

[@rodneydangerfield7153]

Finally, the video that I have been waiting for!...Thank you, Daniel!...Since I'm not a gamer, M1 Mac Mini is my choice and it is cheaper.

[@Lynn-zw7dr]

Evening Dan 🙂 It always amazes me how much they can improve tech year on year, this is all beyond me of course, but I still found it interesting to watch, thanks Dan! xx 💕

[@eyesonly4451]

We have an in-house Swift-based API that solves for structural spans, and makes heavy use of Apple’s Grand Central Dispatch code library to keep all available cores saturated. Needless to say, this is a compute-heavy API. My initial testing was a request package of 250 spans on a 6-core i7 2018 mini, vs a base model M1. Both systems were configured as a headless server that takes the JSON request data and returns the computation results. Over multiple tests, the average total execute time for the 2018 mini was 1.126 CPU seconds. The M1 under Rosetta was 1.414 CPU seconds, and the recompiled native M1 was 0.697 seconds. This API gets hit about 25,000 times a day, mostly during business hours. So this improvement is significant.

[@exif6839]

I’m using the i7 Mac mini with 64GB RAM and 1TB SSD. No gaming. Definitely no need for update to the M1. Maybe the M1X would be a game changer.

[@fotografiahomeric]

I have a 2012 mac mini with 16 gb RAM. does not know if i can install 64 and the other thing Lr is requiring Ventura . What do you recommend if going to upgrade mi mini?? Thanks.

[@exif6839]

@@fotografiahomeric get a Mac Studio in Basis config. Perfect for Lr.

[@isuckatsoldering6554]

I think the wake from sleep test on the mini is testing your monitor wake time more than the mini.

[@PLANETWATERMELON]

Any reason why none of the reviewers mention Bluetooth, WiFi and other connection problems with the M1 Macs?

[@rolfingbomb]

They're not actual reviewers, just an outsourced marketing department.

[@Hiracutch]

Great video!

[@ZONEofTECH]

Glad you enjoyed it

[@mysterio7807]

Take your time to confirm you’re on Spider-Man 3.

[@AverageDadOfficial]

awesome level of detail 👍

[@Dragomo-David]

Gracias for the video but this M1 is a slap in the face for the competition they better wake up

[@alfonsomunoz6946]

Is M1 good for music production ? pro tools ?

[@zwetschgaderdle4433]

So it seems the massive performance increase is just due to gpu acceleration, when it comes to cpu vs cpu, the improvement is very small, but then again we're comparing a cpu that is two years old and has 6 cores to one that litterally just came out and has 8 cores

[@Kshastra]

12:55 Intel mini did better because integrated graphics are optimised for h264 and 265 formats specifically as far as I have read.

[@Wusyaname_]

Think the ONLY reason on getting intel one is for egpu, color more ports, ram and optimization

[@therealsofiene]

Can someone help me? I want to buy a new mac at the cheapest price possible. I'm hesitating between the M1 mac mini at 799 euros (8G+256) or a second hand 2018 i5 6-core Mac mini 8G 256g at 700 euros. The reason why I am considering the i5 is because I will be able to upgrade it in the future whereas I will be stuck with the 8g and 256g of the M1. Is it worth considering ? or should I just go with the m1. I feel 8g is going to be too low very soon.

[@sakhawatrahman4961]

Once the M2 Mac mini comes out I wouldn’t be surprised if the cheaper MC beats the most expensive Intel Mac mini.

[@iamjiroe]

But the cheaper M1 already beats the intel Mac mini. The only time the intel Mac mini beats it or comes close is when the eGPU is connected. That’s already a lot of money and not part of the intel Mac mini. Because the lack of eGPU support in Apple silicon is temporary.

[@TheTechPerson]

Very well done video!

[@EileenNovack]

I love your channel, and this is a great comparison of the performance difference between the two versions. I have just purchased the M1 model to replace a 10 year old Hackintosh and the first thing I noticed was the total failure of the M1 to connect to and use my existing Canon printers. I know that KZbins care a lot about video editing, but most of us just want the thing to work. Canon totally fails here by not supplying some driver support for the new system. My Epson V550 scanner on the other hand worked flawlessly. Epson had an installer that just worked and the Epson scan software ran perfectly despite running under Rosetta. Amazing contrast to Canon.

[@PauloParreira]

Thanks for the Canon info, i use 2 canon printers.

[@samuelgritchin1249]

The recent benchmarks comparing the 2020 Intel's Tigerlake (not some ancient Intel's CPU) and M1 show no impressive gain on M1's part. As usual, apple is all hype.

[@davidd6147]

Great video. Great tests. Nicely done!

[@ravenrhyme4783]

Can I use my old Macbook pro 2012 as a monitor with M1 mac mini, if not, then maybe the intel one?

[@AntonioAlvarezMolina]

I have 2012 27" iMac, would you recommend me to substitute for a Mac Mini M1 or wait for iMac M1?

[@khangn5354]

If your iMac works well than you should keep it but if it’s slow then you could get a Mac mini but you would also need to get a separate monitor of your choice which is cheaper then the Imac and better but your choice

[@AntonioAlvarezMolina]

@@khangn5354 Thanks for your advice!

[@steverhysjenks]

I use my mac mini 2018 for virtual machines. IA virtualbox. Apparently VB won't be updated for the M1. So consider your use case

[@madebykamran]

Hey Daniel!

[@ZONEofTECH]

Hello!

[@cg8670]

Seriously

[@cevisuals]

The issue with the Intel Mac Mini is it's already obsolete... Apple will at some point no longer support any Intel based hardware... The amount of heat generated by Intel processors is a testament to just how inefficient their CPU's are... When a 16GB of ram M1 Mac Mini mostly outperforms even a Mac Pro Desktop (Look up Max Tech's video on this) you realize that Apple is going to make Intel suffer for their lack of innovation. I'm ditching Windows for the new Apple Silicon after researching this in depth.

[@JustNotIt9927]

m1 is faster but it sucks that macs will finally be fast af in the coming future, but they dont support windows

[@wolverineiscool7161]

EXACTLY! that is precisely why I brought the last gen of intel iMacs, it just arrived like 10 days ago and i've been using windows 10 which is what i wanted, apple hardware plus windows software

[@amberraining9546]

@@wolverineiscool7161 yeah it’s good

[@josephperezcodes1173]

Was there a reason why when you was testing the GPU you didnt also have the eGPU on the M1? I know you was showing how the onboard gpu was but it would have been nice to see it with it just to know what to expect.

[@cyberlizardcouk]

it sounds a bit mad and no pun is intended, but the silence is deafening. i miss the sound of the fan. I used to walk into the room and hear the gentle fan noise of my PC and new instantly it was on and ready to go. Now, I hear nothing, and it just feels so very strange.

[@11uja]

don't care if they make a space grey version I just want better graphics.

[@marvinportillo3382]

Question, I'm about to buy the Intel mini.. can I do the Ram upgrade later ? .. help plz...

[@jondonnelly3]

EGPU's are shite. They are expensive and bulky If you want to game build a ITX gaming pc.

[@MyronKaradimas]

Hello! Which one would you recommend if you plan to run Windows 10 on Parallels?

[@tiggrtoo1646]

You cannot run x64/x86 Windows on the M1. So the Intel version is not just recommended, but required.

[@heirtothethrone000]

I think the next M1 is gonna be a BEAST. I would buy the M1 once they get some updates, optimizes software without Rosetta and gets eGPU support. I'm not gonna worry about running bootcamp because they are working on version Parallels to work on the M1 which may be out in another 2-3 quarters. If they can get this done I would buy a M1 with 16Gb of ram and the 1-2 TB ssd and still come out cheaper tham the 2018 intel Mac Mini.

[@mrgr]

I am curious, how do you explain the fact that apple decides to make their own processor, and at first attempt they get such better performance? Are they that ahead?

[@ZONEofTECH]

Yes and no. The reality is that Intel has been at the top, for decades now. They never had any competition so they couldn't be bothered to innovate. AMD"s doing pretty well now too.

[@mauriziomauricone]

Is Cinebench R23 optimized for M1? Wouldn't that matter?

[@demasistudios]

Why does it have to be a Mac mini pro and not just a higher specked Mac mini like there are now?

[@nikola1499]

Thanks for explaining. Great video!

[@Z15TEENG]

This M1 is unbelievable. intel is left in the dust.

[@dougsteel7414]

That's not really the conclusion here. It's mixed. No dust.

[@Baaddu]

I bought the mini last year as a home server and see no advantage to the M1 mini...I would be interested in a 2021 macbook pro M1 if it has 4 usb c ports...2 ports would be dongle hell when out and about

[@hilajsl8849]

Hi, which one will be good for developers? I mean for using Xcode. Because Xcode is taking more RAM and it is killing the performance of the Mac that I'm using now.

[@henrycooks9860]

Thank you this video was very helpful 😊

[@iimv]

Maybe an arm bootcamp will be introduced at some point 😃

[@sheelmirji5494]

Can we run & install Windows 10 on both ?

[@the_stefo]

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[@malvinas78]

Good video comparison. I just bought the 2020 Mac Mini M1 on sale from Amazon for $570 new. It was $130 off. I was hoping it was worth it. I only wanted a decent desktop for web-surfing, emails and KZbin only.

[@stevec5465]

You could have done all that with a Raspberry Pi and saved a whole lot of money.

[@shaunlama6772]

Hi does new M1 Mac mini support 5120x1440 monitors? I want to buy M1 Mac mini but not sure if it supports my Samsung CRG9 monitor?

[@ZONEofTECH]

It does!

[@mohammadmansournasirzada7693]

Informative video ,thank you man!

[@SupremeCyril]

There’ll never be anything like: the Mac mini pro ... that kinda defiles the “mini” in the name

[@psxdadz]

Which one of my main use is lightroom classic and fcpx also can m1 run windows under parrells thanks 🙏

[@rmaha1965]

I'm keeping my 2018 i5 as I upgraded the RAM to 32GB myself and have an ogpu that makes game play outstanding.

[@GermanyTechno]

Wow, this a really FAIR comparison, I’m gonna trust you. 😉

[@prajwalmhatre7345]

Which monitor are you using?

[@m_styles1981]

Why can I not get the M1 with 32gig RAM?

[@MukeshKumar-zo5no]

@ZONEofTech So it did happen. They came up with a M1 pro as you mentioned last year. Just gave a thumbs up

[@Chirondebree]

Am I the only one who constantly laughs when he says “MacBuquere” 😂 Good vid btw 👍

[@facelessman5362]

What Benq monitor is that? Drop the link

[@vinaykumar6499]

Useful review

[@Ckim27]

E gpu shouldn't count as that alone costs more than the actual mac mini

[@EnlightSpokenEnglish]

Thank you for your detail review. You made it easier to make the choice.

[@brendan2655]

Why was a recommended this 6 months later

[@LiteralBeans]

Did he say hes in england?

[@Thunder_13]

I'm having 16,256 Mac Mini M1(India), I'm getting a 50 - 100 Scores less than all of those test results, Please tell me why this happens..(200 less in SSD test ), TOO SAD, but Satisfied !!,,, Please install TG pro and check the chipsets it's detecting 7-performance, 2-efficient, 2-gpu cores ? Is that software useless ??? Is maintaining average CPU below 33* correct or should i make it little higher ?? or that's the truth ??? iStat Menus isn't detecting Temperature other than SSD // I'm new to Mac environment,,, but understood the env. Please clarify these doubts alone !!! Thanks for reading ++!

[@LamarMK]

M1 all the way. 💪

[@yloibx]

VPN offer is not best deal. I want 1 month deal not 24 month deal. Fk yearly deals I hate it.

[@watchyamouth5053]

😂

[@TheMetroRetro]

I didn't know Andrew Garfield is doing Tech Vids

[@miketech00]

great in depth video!!

[@bioglassmusic]

I really wish the space grey mini case came with the m1/2

[@Skylarkberto]

Can you tell me where i can purchase logic pro and final cut pro for cheap

[@felipealonso7859]

If you are a studen or a teacher you buy the "pro app bundle for education". It costs 200 usd and includes: Final cut pro, Logic Pro, Motion, compresor and Maistage. To be honest you might even get it without being an student. Apple doesn't check a lot of times.

[@vinaykumar6499]

Great review

[@anonymous05067]

Can the Mac Mini M1 run 2 4K monitors at once?

[@4thNebula]

I would like to see a video how well a 4k video from an iPhone 12 Pro Max will be imported to the M1 directly via USB from the iPhone.

[@shootermcgavin214]

All I did was air drop that footage into the m1 not usb

[@g10prodriver76]

Can the M1 run Windows?

[@wolverineiscool7161]

No

[@wilkinsi]

Thanks. As a musician, the M1 would be better. But losing half the TB3 ports is really annoying.

[@gamingcroctv4523]

im happy with my m1 mac mini!! never been so happy on my purchase. and also my linux skills helps alot to switch to mac os. thanks for the video!

[@bioglassmusic]

imo swap the mac mini enclosure. The space grey looks cooler.

[@Trex-zm9gh]

what I'd like to know is how much did he pay for that intel I-7 with 32gb of ram 2TB HD and that 5700XT eGPU I'll bet it was a lot more then the $659 for the M-1

[@kirandeep8403]

Thank you sir👍👍

[@JayD_626]

Great analysis

[@shanmohammed6784]

Silver color- Mac for poor peasants. Space Grey- Mac for pro users. Why is it that the entry level users do not get to select a color. A frigging color. SMH.

[@Bonanzoo]

Isn’t the MacBook Air a entry level product ?

[@shanmohammed6784]

@@Bonanzoo It is. I’m just saying that Apple should allow the entry level users to have more colour options .

[@M1710]

As a PC supporter, I still wouldn't get a Mac with Intel. I would get the M1 Mac Mini hands down. I just feel Apple is deliberately ruining for Intel with shitty software optimization. Anyone buying a Mac to run Windows and eGPU is wasting money.

[@Zadehmohammad]

What are they doing with all these year Intel?

[@llernant2638]

Loved this video! Definitely Subbing!

[@marcodimario9918]

This is a very well done comparison! Thank you! Maybe you could do another comparison where you focus much more on productive apps, for example Microsoft Office and other major packages.

[@John_James]

0:15 Mac Pro: Seriously 😒