My Definitive Mario Kart (Slightly Outdated)

[@bobjones9627]

"Pink Gold Peach and Metal Mario can stay but Funky Stays out" Thank god this project is only hypothetical

[@zoomzike]

He's from the extended Mario universe and I wanted to focus on just Mario. If you respect my opinion then I'll respect yours.

[@bobjones9627]

@@zoomzike Jesus 2 minute reply! thats fast! admirable community engagement. i'd argue that funky is more iconic to the mario kart franchise than either of those characters, and maybe a handful more on you list. My point is that if one were to create a "definitive" mario kart game, than it should highlight the features/characters most iconic and beloved to the franchise. He may not have a direct place in the Mainline games, but he does in Mario Kart. As he already cemented his legacy as a racer. Also this is the internet, aint no one has to respect no ones opinion ya pansy

[@zoomzike]

@@bobjones9627 I wouldn't doubt people would agree that Funky may be more iconic, that's fair. Just keep in mind that what you see as definitive and what I see as definitive is subjective, although "definitive" does seem like a pretty objective word. You don't have to respect anyone's opinion but MAN is it hard to convince people if they don't feel respected, oh jeeeeeez.

[@charlesvattimo4674]

Good reason for keeping the clones, but they’re still clones.

[@RobotGuy405]

@@zoomzike I'd argue PGP is more iconic, she became somewhat of a meme, especially with people like Nathaniel Bandy

[@browastaken.]

I think F.L.U.D.D. being a playable character would look pretty awkward and unnatural. It makes more sense to include a FLUDD kart, rather than have him be playable. Also why no Super Circuit tracks? Shy Guy Beach? Ribbon Road? Cheese Land?

[@zoomzike]

That's fair. I just like the character so I'd keep FLUDD in regardless. Cheese Land gives me nightmares and I already had trouble making room for the courses I included.

[@carbonmonteroy]

@@zoomzike Now that's a thought, the Funky Kong fanboys get their Funky Kong with a stat check in to stop him from just being a tryhard pick and you get your FLUDD as a kart

[@sebastianramirezortiz3972]

Perhaps it could be a skin for mario with fludd on his back, or perhaps even an item with fludd shooting water that propels you forward and leaves a water puddle that can make other players slip (though it wouldn't last long for balancing purposes)

[@MrMarinus18]

You could say the same about Robb which was in DS.

[@DeadChannel2]

Huzzah! A man of quality!

[@anomalocaris4588]

*No Funky Kong *No wheelies *No inside drift *No cool tricks But Pink Gold Peach can stay!?

[@carbonmonteroy]

When did he say no cool tricks? Had I known he would be cutting out something THAT essential I would have commented on it by now. edit: it has been brought to my attention that the original commenter waas talking about halfpipes, which I absolutely agree are unnecessary.

[@XVINutkabob]

Amerus of Mairon ah yes, something so important it only appears in Wii

[@carbonmonteroy]

@@XVINutkabob Wii+forward, but still, point taken. Edit: second clause.

[@XVINutkabob]

Amerus of Mairon he said tricks would return, but not wii tricks, A.k.A halfpipes. 7 and 8 didn’t even have any, they already simplified tricks

[@carbonmonteroy]

@@XVINutkabob Ah, the way the original commenter framed it I was under the impression that the man was getting rid of tricks entirely. Edit to let you know that I edited my first reply.

[@Freefork]

0:19 Including so many tracks is unreasonable. Sakurai: Hahaha! This man has absolutely no idea what he is talking about. *Writes a project proposal for Smash Ultimate.*

[@zoomzike]

IT'S STILL UNREASONABLE. SAKURAI'S JUST *AMAZING!*

[@Wrench55154]

Sakurai, directs next Mario Kart game. Every track : I am inevitable

[@goldenyoshistar1]

@@Wrench55154 I can see that happening.

[@gavanscommandblock]

@@Wrench55154 also kirbo

[@puffypuff3144]

"Readding Koopa Paratroopa" "No Funky Kong" ok youve lost me immediately

[@zoomzike]

Yeah I know Funky's a fan favorite so it was hard. But Koopa Paratroopa is more Mario than Funky is.

[@camtheman7654]

@@zoomzike Wow, replying to a new comment on a one year old immediately. Props

[@zoomzike]

@@camtheman7654 Thaaaaaaaaaaanks!

[@zoomzike]

He'd down-smash in the game, can't have that.

[@crackhead898]

@@zoomzike So you think you look like that perfect pretty boy anime character at 0:05 right? That's one the gayest shits I've heard.

[@Blue8lue]

>Remove Funky Kong because he's not "from the Mario universe" (and doesn't get the bonus of being from enough games that Diddy has?) >Adds characters from Paper Mario and Super Mario RPG which are distinct universes from both eachother and the main Mario universe >FOUR Sunshine-specific reps Zoom my man I respect you but this ain't gonna fly

[@zoomzike]

It's cool dude, just keep in mind that the roster was only a small part of the video that I didn't want to spend _too_ much time on. The main thing I was going for was the courses and what I wanted to be brought back, if I knew that people were gonna eye down the roster as much as they did then I would've actually spent a notable amount of time on it!

[@DonutTPOTer]

@@zoomzike hurrdurr dementio is cool so he's in but not any notable characters

[@orcalord8166]

@@DonutTPOTer Wow, you must be like, 5.

[@DonutTPOTer]

@@orcalord8166 how? SPM is cool and all, it donkey Kong has more importance than paper mario

[@orcalord8166]

@@DonutTPOTer "hurrrrrdurr"

[@TylerYoshi]

>No Funky Kong >Yes Pink Gold Peach YOU LOSE. GOOD DAY SIR!

[@zoomzike]

Joke's on you, I've probably watched the movie that quote's from more recently than you have! *YOU LOSE. GOOD DAY SIR!!*

[@TylerYoshi]

@@zoomzike Still, you know people DESPISE Pink Gold Peach, right? That character literally has no reason to exist.

[@theninjas2870]

@@TylerYoshi he literally gave the reason she exists tho

[@TylerYoshi]

@@theninjas2870 It's a stupid reason imo, and in the opinion of most Nintendo fans.

[@JoSephGD]

@@TylerYoshi agreed. there are more reasons to cut he than to keep her.

[@TnhGameRemixes]

HOW DO YOU HAVE WALUIGI STADIUM, WALUIGI'S PINBALL AND NO *waluigi's taco stand* ???

[@zoomzike]

OH NO! *I FORGOOOOOOOOOT!*

[@charlesvattimo4674]

Unfortunately, that is not a retro course. Never has, and never will. But perhaps Waluigi’s taco stand could be added as an Easter egg in Shy Guy Bazaar, if that is part of the group of tracks in his list.

[@YoshisaurUnderscore]

@@charlesvattimo4674 r/woooosh

[@luciowins9946]

Charles Vattimo some of the tracks in the video weren’t retro.

[@protocetid]

the taco stand was removed at Waluigi's behest because he didn't want to be made fun of for having the lowest paying job in all of the cast

[@BigStrap]

lmao this just feels like "I Like Double Dash: The Movie"

[@zoomzike]

My bad if it comes off that way, I do like it but I wouldn't rate it EXTREMELY high.

[@Thereonthebanana]

Because double dash is easily the best Mario Kart.

[@MeatEatingVegan777]

Double dash is really cool, and the more I look back on that game, the more I see what it did right. I adored mario kart 8. I love that game, and even the over-realistic art style. To me, it's my favorite mario kart, but if there's another one that has kamek as a playable character, then that one will easily be my favorite.

[@Evmanifestation]

@@Thereonthebanana I have always held DS in a very high regard.

[@algar6616]

As it should Everyone should be rating it EXTREMELY high

[@caliklepto1316]

"funky kong doesnt fit because he hasnt been in many mario titles" ok um he was in mario kart wii. but you want dimentio from paper mario?

[@zoomzike]

I put him with the DK universe more than the Mario one. Although DK is an extension of the Mario universe, he just makes me wish that an all-out crossover would happen instead. Dimentio's cool.

[@aionicthunder]

I’d prefer a paper bowser instead of Dimentio as Dimentio’s only in one game, whereas paper bowser shows up in all of them (and I think a lightweight bowser would be funny)

[@romandesciscio2103]

@@zoomzike I'd just add Funky as a skin for dk. Just change the voice lines for the skin and Bam, everyone is happy

[@Daehpo]

Paper Bowser could be a Light Weight counterpart to Bowser for those who prefer lightweights and love Bowser.

[@VideoGamer110]

@@zoomzike So DK universe isn't part of the Mario universe, rather an expansion. But Paper Mario is part of the main Mario universe? I don't thin the logic adds up especially considering the DK universe is referenced many more times in the main games than Paper Mario and Mario & Luigi. Funky has also been in more games than Dimentio and Dimentio's whole design clashes with the rest of the roster. I also think that having all Noki, Pianta, Petey Piranha, and Fludd is too much representation of Sunshine compared to other mainline games. Maybe replace either Noki or Pianta with one of the new species added in Odyssey (maybe the Mexican Skeleton things I can't remember the name of) or Galaxy (I personally always liked the guys made out of wood). Petey Piranha and King BobBomb would be freaking sick though.

[@_nRool]

Really don't like the idea of a cup with just Rainbow Road and Bowser's Castle, I'd prefer difficult tracks with some variety.

[@zoomzike]

Rainbow Road and Bowser's Castle are both types of courses we've seen a lot of, so I thought it'd be cool if there were cups dedicated specifically to them because of their infamy.

[@metawarp7446]

@@zoomzike Cool yes, but to be honest after a while they would become my least favourite cups because of the thematic repetition (and I don't think the Castle or especially the Rainbow themes help with that) I think having two cups both having Castles and 2 Rainbows would be better. Fully Rainbow or Castle cups might work if the themes for some courses were largely altered for more variety.

[@etube6226]

I like that Idea.

[@Jellomancy]

When you showed that side-by-side of Yoshi Island I VASTLY preferred MK8's look. Lighting makes all the difference, and if you increased the resolution of DD's artstyle you're just getting MK8 again.

[@zoomzike]

I'm not sure how you came to that conclusion. I said in the video that I like how Double Dash has faces on environmental set-pieces, which is something MK8 doesn't have. Increasing the resolution wouldn't get rid of that.

[@cloudmain8629]

Why not just have both

[@camkid5866]

Y’know you could have a “double dash” mode, where you could race with two characters per kart. It’s optional, so you wouldn’t have to use it if you didn’t want to. You could also restrict certain karts and bike depending on the character size, to avoid the Bowser Baby Mario bike problem. Great vid btw

[@zoomzike]

Sure! I just wanted to commit to one since it'd make things more interesting. Thanks!!

[@occamsaturn]

I too think the option would be great but it might also be interesting to balance the game so you could mix the two

[@etube6226]

He said he doesn't like that.

[@oggiv]

A few changes that I would prefer: -C'mon man Funky Kong is the face of Mario Kart Wii -Paratroopa should be a skin for Koopa Troopa. Give that slot to a Hammer Bro or a Monty Mole or something (or Funky Kong ofc) -The Double Dash artstyle is great, but I think the Wii artstyle would be better. Some things have their retro looks in Double Dash, like Mushrooms and Stars -If we're changing Mario's voice, I feel like Diddy's Double Dash voice should be used instead of the Wii voice. The Wii one sounds kinda weird -I feel like some Super Circuit tracks wouldn't hurt, since this is the Definitive/Ultimate Mario Kart -A Double Dash mode would be great. What you said about the car thing is true, so you would be limited to a sepcific selection of Karts (so no bikes/ATV's) -Bikes should work like they did in Wii, but nerfed a little bit -Mission Mode Btw Reverse mode is fantastic

[@zoomzike]

I understand the love for Funky but it's hard for me to take _all_ of it seriously when I saw how common his setup was competitively. I know there are people that love the character, but I always get this feeling of "but how much do they love him _really_ if he was the best character in that game?" He's pretty cool though! Him being in would just make me want an all-out crossover even more though. I like the other things you said, but I'm still hesitant on wheelies for bikes, not sure how they'd be balanced. Glad you like Reverse Mode!

[@hikineet177]

Ew Mario Kart Wii artstyle is horrible, even DS is better.

[@ender_blade]

Bro you dissin' my boy R.O.B.?

[@zoomzike]

R.O.B.'s cool! Just not Mario I'd say.

[@TurbopropPuppy]

@@zoomzike not with that attitude he's not

[@Kashilko]

R.O.B. is sublime, we need R.O.B. Kart

[@alexmontgomery4776]

You all forgot FUNKY!!

[@quillyk8048]

ender-blade did you just assumed R.O.B.'s gender?

[@Swiggity369]

I think Mario's high pitched voice has to do with Charles Martine's age, in Mario Oddesy, you can pretty much hear his age on the start screen. Maybe he has to do the voice higher now?

[@zoomzike]

As much as I hate to admit he's growing older, you're probably right.

[@doodledangernoodle2517]

😭😭😭

[@brownsfan3290]

You didn’t need to put in so much work. All I needed was Coconut Mall

[@zoomzike]

You're right, I should've ended the video there.

[@chromaticchrome3746]

"And in the Mall Cup, you're driving across four versions of Coconut Mall!"

[@carbonmonteroy]

@@chromaticchrome3746 To be fair, Waluigi Pinball deserves some credit. 3 Coconut and 1 Pinball as the final track?

[@Namadu7]

@@chromaticchrome3746 What do you mean, four versions? Why not just the same Coconut Mall 4 times?

[@naryosh_]

Don't forget to add in custom decals from DS. I spent hours on those things

[@zoomzike]

Oh yeah! Those were awesome!

[@AxeCrusader]

Yeah! And now you could make them with Text and maybe some Stamps

[@globin3477]

You people realize those were cut for a reason, right? People kept making sexually explicit decals.

[@carbonmonteroy]

@Jett Lucas Hayes ... a report button no one will use. Implement the DONG DETECTOR from Smash Ultimate.

[@memememe7081]

Your name is literally just 100, how

[@Isissa125]

I don't agree with all of your edits, especially cutting out non-mario characters, but the structure of this video was a delight so I've left you a like!

[@zoomzike]

I'd prefer having either an all-out crossover, or none at all. When there's only a few characters included, people will inevitably ask for more, and the series itself will seem as though it needs the help of other franchises to keep people interested, which isn't healthy for the brand. Even if that part's ignored, it just leaves me wishing for more; having to look at them each time on the selection screen only reminds me of how amazing a true crossover would be. Glad you enjoyed though!!

[@xxsusmasterxx5491]

@@zoomzike yeah its mario kart. Not NINTENDO KART or sega kart. Or atari- ok ill stop

[@Isissa125]

lets just remove tanuki/cat/gold mario & peach and add the cast of battletoads lol

[@Kjersten_w]

Yeah i pretty much only play as Link or the girl villager 😭

[@brandnamepending4817]

@@zoomzike yea cause it feels real woerd not to have a captain falcon guest character but two animal crossing characters

[@patrickstarpower758]

“No Funky Kong” ‘kay. “No double-karts.” Understandable. “A whole cup of just Bowser’s Castle.” Bold move, I can see your point. “No N64 R-“ *Are you a madman?*

[@zoomzike]

Ay ay ay ay. Let's be real. Do you actually like the _road_ of N64 Rainbow Road or do you like the music and the fireworks?

[@cosmicflake3730]

@@zoomzike But i would be like the MK8 version with the Train and a single Lap >:/ Don't you ever think in that?

[@XVINutkabob]

MrPelipper_209 he said it was also boring

[@zapbolt8]

My only real gripe is that Pipe Plaza isn't a battle stage, just tweak it so that items go through pipes and then it's a perfect stage.

[@zoomzike]

I love Pipe Plaza so I'm not sure why it isn't there, must've forgot.

[@Snowy167]

So no Funky Kong, but Dimentio??.. 😢

[@zoomzike]

I want a pure Mario Kart title and I thought Dimentio was more Mario than Funky.

[@IdeaBox-dk5vj]

@@zoomzike Well, if you were going to put in some Paper Mario tracks, why not add Paper Mario himself into the roster?

[@immortalsun]

Dimentio for the fucking win.

[@meep7895]

@@IdeaBox-dk5vj Because a lightweight Mario already existed in baby mario

[@IdeaBox-dk5vj]

@@meep7895 Well, you have a point there. However, it doesn't sit well with me that a Paper Mario character would get in the game before the titular character. And if you really want to still have a lightweight Mario, then make Baby Mario heavier, as he's still flesh and blood in that version.

[@thebiolibrary5572]

Zoomzike: *adding no new courses* Also Zoomzike: *adds Pina Park, Toad Town, Rougeport, E. Gadd’s Garage and Comet observatory*

[@zoomzike]

I transcend beyond even the limits I set for myself.

[@vegetafan9922]

>Replace Dimento with a Goomba using it's mouth to steer because Nintendo loves including amusing character concepts and the Goomba is one of the most recognizable enemy in all of gaming next to Inky, Blinky, Pinky, and Clyde and the Space Invaders. >Fawful would be replaced with Mouser because Super Mario Bros. 2 needs more love as well as fill the sunglasses wearing mammal shaped hole in my heart with the removal of Funky Kong.

[@zoomzike]

Thank you for your opinions, Vegeta.

[@djwaluigi1686]

"DS Rainbow Road will have the music of the N64 version" *say sike right now*

[@deprecated7681]

B'scuse me? No-one takes the ds rainbow road music and gets away with it.

[@elfmonster1476]

Personally I don't think Coconut Mall should have any anti-gravity, period. After all, it takes place within a mall, where people should be able to move about with relative ease. EDIT: I also don't think the Wii U Rainbow Road should be used. Of all the Rainbow Roads in the entire series, that one is the one that feels the least like a rainbow road (Except maybe for N64 Rainbow Road)

[@zoomzike]

MK8's Rainbow Road puts a cool twist on the concept, but I don't like the actual _road_ itself too much... To be fair, that mall we're talking about also has a hallway that leads people to a roof with no guardrails or walls to prevent them from falling off. There's even a boost pad to help them plummet. Oof.

[@elfmonster1476]

@@zoomzike I mean, yeah, the Coconut Mall argument is fair.

[@DrAwesome9090]

Yes, it's Mario Kart not Smash kart. Finally someone who agrees

[@zoomzike]

I wouldn't mind a Smash Kart though.

[@imdepressed3220]

@@zoomzike Cp.Falcon for mario kart!!

[@raidoukuzonoha883]

Theres nothing wrong with Nintendo characters in the game...

[@gavanscommandblock]

YOU LOSE! GOOD DAY SIR!

[@cloudmain8629]

Adding Koopa Paratropa... BUT NO FUNKY KONG?! I think this man just dug his own grave

[@zoomzike]

Nah, I'll happy stay above ground thank you!

[@globin3477]

Koopa Paratroopa is an excellent addition, as are Hammer Bro and Kamek. I do think Funky Kong should be in, though.

[@StardustSpectre]

SNES Rainbow Road? For the 3rd time in a row? Honestly GBA Rainbow Road deserves it more imo as it serves as the perfect expansion from SNES, has a much more interesting design, better music, it hasn’t been remade yet, and as a bonus has a Paper Mario reference.

[@zoomzike]

They're both similar with their literal flat design, so I wouldn't mind swapping them out.

[@memememe7081]

As long as the Mario Kart 8 Rainbow road soundtrack gets in, im fine with whichever one.

[@tommmicron]

5th time. SNES GBA 3DS Wii U/Switch And now this...

[@StardustSpectre]

T tom M i said in a row

[@tommmicron]

@@StardustSpectre It's still repetitive tho

[@DaNintendude]

I completely agree with Deluxe's artstyle... well mostly. I feel like all that's needed is a bump up in cartoony expression/exaggeration, and saturation as well. I don't know what's about saturation being kinda dull in Nintendo games recently, but recent Smash games as well as MK8 have been fairly light in color. Keep the detail, just make it more colorful and slightly more cartoony. That may have been what you meant, so sorry if I basically described what you wanted.

[@zoomzike]

That's a good description of what I wanted; keep Deluxe's graphics, but adopt more of Double Dash's art style.

[@mika_fernandes]

i dunno if Fawful and especially Dimento would fit on a main universe Mario game, tbh. i'd replace both with Boom Boom and Pom Pom

[@TiringCoyote]

Fawful is only the coolest Mario villain. He also has fury.

[@zoomzike]

I think they're cool so I added them.

[@AxeCrusader]

Maybe DLC with some reskins like Mr. L for Luigi or Dark Bowser for Bowser

[@fawfulthegreat64]

Nah I'll take that sweet RPG representation thanks :P Been waiting for it to happen for too long.

[@AndruSouls]

how will funky kong EVER be in "enough" games if we don't let him in any game? rich get richer smh

[@danielcorrales9649]

Everyone is mad that he cut Funky,meanwhile I'm here heartbroken for the disrespect to my boy R.O.B

[@zoomzike]

I'M SORRY ABOUT ROOOOOOB!!

[@rarenaoto7633]

Lol don't sweat it at least you put effort into this dude

[@jmp4430]

I'm too

[@mrshmuga9]

>*didn’t add a Tostarenan* I thought this was supposed to be the DEFINITIVE Mario Kart?

[@zoomzike]

_Adds him_ You're welcome.

[@psicopato2460]

I thought I was the only one who wanted him!

[@EvanPrivett]

So, uh, no Super Circuit tracks? 0/10 didn't include my favorite MK game.

[@zoomzike]

YEAH SCREW THOSE COURSES 0/10 comment

[@zacharystein9474]

@@zoomzike can't respect opinions 0/10 reply

[@zoomzike]

@@zacharystein9474 Can't detect sarcasm 0/10 reply to a reply

[@zacharystein9474]

@@zoomzike too rude We all get a 0/10 just to be fair because we're all kind of rude

[@jackweiss5480]

Can't have the same spacing as the other comments 0/10 reply to a reply to a reply.

[@Ravenomics]

8 bit, 16 bit and 64 is wrong. 8 and 16 bit are the resolutions of the sprites but the 64 is not the resolution. It is the bit rate of the microprocessor that the N64 uses. Mario 64 uses rasterized graphics where as the 8 and 16 bit use traditional 2d. I'm sure this was mentioned but what ever.

[@zoomzike]

The NES, SNES, and N64 are 8-bit, 16-bit, and 64-bit consoles respectively in terms of their processors, which greatly affected the graphical output of the game. Hence the 8-bit < 16-bit < 64-bit along with the outputs above them. Or at least that's what I think my thoughts were when I put those pieces of text in the video, I could be wrong.

[@Ravenomics]

@@zoomzike but the switch is also a 64 bit console. Bit rate is more of a process than the power of a chip. Most of that comes from memory size and speed. A N64 and switch both run on the 64 bit process but the switch has far better graphical output. Graphics are a diverse topic. If you have seen Nvidia's new RTX it helps to understand that there are more complected ways than just the bitrate.

[@zoomzike]

That makes sense. So 8-bit < 16-bit < 64-bit wasn't wrong on its own, but the way it's presented in the video makes it come off as though the processor is the _main_ thing affecting the graphics, which it isn't. I know I was either thinking that when I threw the text in there or the resolution thing. Either way I was off when it came to details, but I'm glad this mistake didn't destroy the _entire_ point I was trying to make. Thanks for pointing all of that out!

[@wow-thanks]

*CONTROVERSIAL OPINION ALERT* Coins as items work great in MK8DX. There, I said it. In MK8DX every single item first place can receive EXCEPT coins can be used to block red shells and green shells. Remove them from the mix, and it would be so much harder to catch up to first. The frontrunner could easily break away because while they are guaranteed a defensive item every time, second is not guaranteed an item that could attack first. Even if second was to receive a red shell, it would be highly likely that first already has an item to block it. Coins exist as a way to weaken first place, and they force players to adjust their frontrunning item strategies. Although it sucks to get a coin when a red shell is homing in, it's necessary to keep the game balanced. Coins have no place in a single item system though. Being in first in MK8 was being in constant fear. Thankfully, Deluxe fixed that.

[@zoomzike]

Why do you feel this way?

[@globin3477]

If you ask me, being in first place SHOULD be an experience of constant fear.

[@carbonmonteroy]

@@zoomzike Because frontrunning is a problem in online matchups. Rather than an interesting race you have the one player who got off to a good start and is now the winner, irrefutable, because you buffed the living shit out of first place.

[@mikeydraws6561]

I agree coins should still be in item boxes so you can risk a single item box or go out of your way like up a wall to get a double item to be sure to get a blockable item. It adds strategy of what way to go.

[@heather19515]

most of this video: eh, sure. fawful: FUCK yeah love that man

[@zoomzike]

I HAVE HAPPINESS!

[@bubby-fi9mc]

Only 5 new tracks? No dragging items behind you? Cups with ONLY Bowser's Castles and Rainbow Road's? NAH. Also if we have 2 Paper Mario tracks, Paper Mario should be his own racer.

[@zoomzike]

I get the "only 5 new tracks", but you disagree with a cup dedicated to the most iconic Mario Kart course of all time? Same with Bowser's Castle? The dragging items behind you thing is weird too, it's become _way_ too easy to defend in these titles like that. Sure, throw Paper Mario in there.

[@teeby2037]

People are taking this video WAAAAAAAAAY too seriously! While I personally can't say i agreed with everything you said, I loved the video!

[@zoomzike]

Yeeeeeeah. Did I come off as though this is what should _objectively_ be in the next Mario Kart? I really tried not to. Thanks!!

[@maplechandelure]

Me and you are thinking the same, people are dissing him, plus it was just an idea

[@ChilliusVGM]

I got 9 minutes in and I had to stop watching, I just dpn't see this as definitive myself because it's like a massive step backwards in every way.

[@MattCraftDotDerp]

I'm disgusted by the amount of comments dismissing the video simply because of the _hypothetical_ character roster he chose for this _hypothetical_ game. They're probably where most of the dislikes came from. The video is super well-structured with logical reasoning and good editing, but most importantly it reflects his own opinions, which is super respectable. Honestly I don't care what Nintendo does for the actual next Mario Kart game, as long as they don't title it 'Mario Kart 9'. The whole numbering system was dumb in the first place. And I also hope it's on the Switch, despite 8 Deluxe being a thing, because there's no telling when the whole next system will be out.

[@zoomzike]

I expected disagreements of course, but I really didn't expect how many people dismissed the video entirely. I like to hope that most of them were joking with their comments and took their time to listen to everything else. Thank you for the kind words!

[@lmpuny1013]

being fair yeah, they focused more on the character roster more than anything else.

[@robindionn1747]

Shows Tracks... Super Circuit: I'm a joke to you

[@zoomzike]

Ye.

[@MathematicalVoid]

If you're changing DS Luigi's Mansion that much, you might as well just call it a new Luigi's Mansion, instead of DS Luigi's Mansion.

[@zoomzike]

Probably, yeah.

[@nickblake8767]

not being able to hold items behind youreself sounds uncomfortable

[@zoomzike]

I just find it cheesy that someone can block everything just by holding a button down; it's way more engaging to me if it's timed.

[@abyssary8796]

@@zoomzike It makes the game less competitive. I disliked the video because there would be no funky kong, no wheelies and no holding back. Honestly I would be really happy if they just remastered mario kart wii with 1080p 60fps but at the same time kept the physics and what makes mk wii special. It's not going to happen though.

[@charlesvattimo4674]

Abyssary I’m sure you miss wheelies so much only because you exclusively used the meta in MK WII, as in inside drifting bikes. Wheelies made bikes overpowered in comparison to karts, that cannot be denied. Although it did make the vehicle types more unique, there has to be a better way of balancing them out should wheelies return.

[@abyssary8796]

@@charlesvattimo4674 It made time trials more unique and the most interesting to watch in the series. Also there are so many shortcuts in mario kart wii that are skill based and glitches that are fun to pull of that can save so much time.

[@metawarp7446]

Maybe a good nerf would be a timer for the holding. For balancing and added depth, maybe the holding thíme could be shorter for some items

[@Knux5577]

The paper mario series is a separate universe they don't exist outside of it edit: Since M&L paper jam, I guess it is possible although, he would have to still be paper

[@zoomzike]

I don't think the Mario series is _that_ serious about its lore to care about things like that honestly.

[@audrey7908]

my number 1 wish is more charqacter costumes! no need to cut tanooki mario and cat peach, they can just be alt costumes!

[@zoomzike]

Costumes sound good to me!

[@helsing5661]

I think it would be cool to see some Odyssey worlds as tracks Imagine New Donk City, Wooded Kingdom or Bowser's Kindom

[@zoomzike]

That'd be cool!

[@masterofpasta95]

Hell, Bowsers Kingdom would be a great way to end the castle cup

[@The_Yosh]

Dimentio and Fludd are really weird choices, I would’ve chosen Count Black over Dimentio and Glydon over Fludd

[@zoomzike]

I get why you'd put Count Black over Dimentio but I'm surprised about Glydon over FLUDD, considering the latter is with you the entire game while the former you only see every now and then (I actually had to look Glydon up despite having 100%'ed Odyssey) It's all up to taste!

[@uhhhCheese]

I think the actual Paper Mario would be a better option

[@Trianull]

14:09 Excuse me W H A T ! ?

[@zoomzike]

WHAT, WHAT'S WRONG? IS IT DS RAINBOW ROAD? DON'T TELL ME IT'S DS RAINBOW ROAD!

[@globin3477]

The biggest flaw here by far is the lack of a lot of new tracks. Every previous Mario kart game had numerous unique tracks.

[@jace.r]

I think it would be cool if both Bullet Bills and Chain Chomps were in the game. The difference? Bullet Bills follow a smooth, linear path, whereas Chain Chomps are more jerky and chaotic. Chain Chomps could also be moved left and right along the track so you can attempt to chomp up other players. Chain Chomps would also be awarded less frequently and also if you really need some help.

[@zoomzike]

I'd be cool with that!

[@bup_dnq8440]

"No Funky Kong" Me: Meh, I guess speedrunners will be pissed "Dimentio" Me: *instant like*

[@zoomzike]

Glad we've got a Dimentio fan here!

[@AxeCrusader]

I personally like Super Paper Mario

[@Ezonater]

Removing Funky Kong and DS' Rainbow Road Theme? Not cool

[@zoomzike]

Just put in the secret code to unlock them!

[@carbonmonteroy]

@@zoomzike No, that's worse, NONE of that "secret code" shit. I propose for the N64 track "compromise" you have an O P T I O N. DS track on DS rainbow road or N64 track? Default DS track but allow a player to switch tracks.

[@poligarf3]

everyone is commenting about no funky kong, but just think. DLC 1: "New Funky Kong Mode"

[@Genichi__]

>No funky kong Me : *Y E S*

[@gavanscommandblock]

me: *N O*

[@therealgamewizerd]

This has been one of the few videos that I've encountered where I disagree with most of what the video says. All I'm gonna say is that if the concept game's called "defi9itive" then there's gotta be almost, if not all, courses and characters playable branching back through the series.

[@BlockedContent]

This was suberbly put together and a lot of fun to watch.

[@zoomzike]

Thanks!

[@Anafyral666]

Don't like how I got so attached to Moonview Highway but it's just an altered version of Toad's Turnpike 😔

[@zoomzike]

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[@Accrovideogames]

2:14 No, Pink Gold Peach is nigh universally loathed. Your reason for keeping her is ridiculous. Metal Mario stays because unlike her he has a history. Pink Gold Peach was created solely for the purpose of padding the roster with a female version of Metal Mario. 2:49 No, Parakoopa was added only to give Koopa Troopa a partner in Double Dash. He's completely unimportant and too similar to his partner. Now that I think about it, I would probably give Koopa Troopa different color skins. 2:51 Funky Kong is extremely popular, but unlike Pink Gold Peach, your reason is valid. 3:08 As much as I like Dimentio, I'm not sure he fits. Your idea to make him turn 2D during tricks is good though. 3:42 F.L.U.D.D. is actually brilliant! I would have never thought about it. It's also a great replacement for R.O.B. 3:52 I would remove Baby Rosalina because she was an unnecessary addition. This would put a stop to the trend of continually adding more babies, otherwise they'll add baby versions of Wario, Waluigi, and Donkey Kong; all of which already exist except Waluigi. I would also consider removing Baby Daisy, she was only created for Mario Kart. To replace the ones I removed, I would consider adding Nabbit, Boom Boom, Pom Pom, and the Broodals. It doesn't matter if I exceed the roster of MK8D, it's reasonable for a sequel to have slightly more. 4:46 I would keep the Tanooki Kart, it still works as a standalone kart even without Tanooki Mario. Heck, you didn't even remove the Cat Cruiser, which I would also keep. 16:41 There's a reason why blue shells in MK8 were nerfed: they're unfair. Making them worse again isn't the solution. I do agree with making impacts with the shells more flashy though, but only if the penalty remains the same as in MK8. 18:26 No, it's already really fast as it is and it even allows you to go off-road without losing speed, anymore speed would make it way overpowered. Overall, it's a well-made video with excellent editing, some neat ideas but also some very controversial ones.

[@zoomzike]

I think my reason for keeping Pink Gold Peach is just fine, you're just mad that she could probably sell parts of her hair for thousands of dollars. Koopa Paratroopa should at _least_ be a skin of Koopa Troopa. I'm glad you agree with Dimentio and FLUDD. I'd add in that the Koopalings should definitely be skins of Bowser Jr. like they are in Ultimate. I changed blue shells the way I did to actually help the person using it, what was wrong with that? The star feels underwhelming in MK8 though. I'm glad you thought it was a well-made video overall!

[@globin3477]

Just give every character a metal version as an alternate skin. It’s just a solid-color retexture, so it would add a ton of options with almost no effort.

[@carbonmonteroy]

@@zoomzike No, we're mad for a different reason: At the time of MK8's release, there was a Rose Gold trend that was made up and inflated by advertising to make luxury goods more expensive. The basic people bought into it and us gamers were insulted when this shitty cash grab at a terrible trend of "let's ruin this otherwise interesting alloy in the public eye for a quick buck" ended up in our game. I suggest instead of Pink Gold Peach, maybe just good old Gold Peach?

[@murphyellents]

Great video! I wouldn't replace the music of Rainbow road Ds with the n64 music, I like the original song more.

[@zoomzike]

That's fair, just preference! Glad you enjoyed!

[@AxeCrusader]

Maybe you could make a Cameo in DS Rainbow Road with the Neon Lights and maybe with the Castle of Paper Mario 64 to add some reference to GBA Rainbow Road

[@MxPokirby]

"The sponsored promotional real-world cars make me sick." Sounds like you're making several mountains out of several Monty Mole hills in this video.

[@zoomzike]

While I'm sure Nintendo's done it before, the fact that they blatantly threw in product placement into one of their games feels incredibly wrong on so many levels and I'm actually surprised that there's a good chunk of people that don't feel the same way I do. There's also the side effect that it completely breaks immersion.

[@BasilWald]

Could’ve at least included Sunset Wilds from the GBA, the atmosphere of that level is amazing and not really covered in another circuit.

[@zoomzike]

I probably should've included that one yeah.

[@bobjones9627]

"I can't add all 136 courses from all previous Mario Karts into one title because that would unreasonable from a development standpoint" CTGP would like to have a word with you. If a fan made project can have over 200 tracks with every track before wii and some even retroactively ported from 3ds and wii U on literally no professional budget, then i don't think its unreasonable for a triple aaa studio with a fully staffed team to pull it off.

[@zoomzike]

Yeah I see what'cha mean. Granted, I assume the people of CTGP created the game on their free time, whereas a triple a studio would need to pay their workers for _every_ hour they're working on such a massive project. I imagine the cost would be insane. Although Sakurai did pull off Ultimate with tons of stages, but I'm not sure how much work goes into each. I totally could've said "let's have every course in the game", but where's the fun in that anyway? There was something satisfying about creating my own "top courses" list and I'm glad that I did it.

[@bobjones9627]

@@zoomzike From a content makers perspective, i do completly understand the point of limiting the scope of the game to facilitate discussion. It wouldn't be a very thought provoking video if it was just Mario Kart Ultimate with DD aesthetics. I liked your course selections and your explanations on why you picked them. Yet, i'm not sure how you consider the fact that CTGP was made by amateurs in their free time to have benifits over a professional studio. Yes you have to pay them, of course, but in return you are getting streamlined, high quality content for your game. Something that a AAA media Franchise like mario can easily afford, as opposed to the trickle of content that CTGP started with. CTGP was no where near the quality of where its at today when it launched. It took years of inconsistent work to make it the definitive modded mario kart experience. With a trained team you have more control of the workflow, on top of being a professional endeavor in which you will get returns that, if managed correctly, will put you cleanly in the black.

[@zoomzike]

@@bobjones9627 Oh yeah, that's why I said I assumed when it came to CTGP. While I've played a bit of it with my friends before not having known the name, I obviously didn't and still don't know much about the progress they made. I have absolutely no doubts a franchise as huge as Mario could pull off a wide-scale project on the size of CTGP if it was managed well, I was just offering possible reasons why we haven't seen anything like that from them yet. In regards to content making and sparking discussion, then yeah, saying "let's just have everything everyone wanted in it" wouldn't be tooooooooo interesting; I think I said something like that near the end. Overall I see what you mean though, CTGP's pretty sick.

[@Freefork]

You should make a video on specifically Mario Kart's items. Such as what you like and don't like about each, some custom ones you would add, etc (perhaps track specific items). That would be cool.

[@zoomzike]

Sounds like a good idea!

[@shakingh4nd]

You didn't like 3D world? oh. That's uncommon.

[@zoomzike]

I see it as a mediocre. It has good controls and a great multiplayer mode, but it does the bare minimum that a Mario game needs to do to be a good Mario game. We've seen nearly every world many times before and it doesn't do much to stand apart from other fantastic Mario platformers. I don't think it's terrible per say, I just don't think there was much of a unique vision for it.

[@immortalsun]

“Mario Kart Defi9tive” is a pretty confusing and silly name. “Definitive” in the first place doesn’t make much sense as such a subtitle is usually used for re-releases of games containing all the DLC. Also, “Defi9tive” is difficult to spell, remember, and pronounce. The title of a game, especially one as massive as Mario Kart, should be simple, easy to spell, easy to pronounce, and easy to remember. Other than that, I love your ideas and am mad hyped for the next Mario Kart, whenever it comes out.

[@zoomzike]

I like the logo I made and assume most people would call it "Definitive" despite name so I'm cool with it. I'm hyped for the next one too, hopefully they add back some retro courses that are long overdo for a remake!

[@tdxdreamer2365]

This is amazing! Theres some points where i'd do things different of course( mainly my guy funky). But I fully see where you want to go with this vision. And its really intringuing on how it would all play out. Thank you for the good content ! Left my well deserved like and sub.

[@zoomzike]

Glad you appreciate the different perspective! I feel like there's a few people that are treating what I say in the video as though it's objective fact when I said multiple times it was about me and what I wanted. Maybe I didn't make that clear enough? Thank you for the kind words!

[@MsDarkz123]

The RPG characters I don't see it happening anytime soon. I would personally like to add more from the DK and WarioWare casts they're still related to Mario in someway.

[@zoomzike]

That's fair!

[@fawfulthegreat64]

If DK and Wario are relevant enough so are the MarPGs, don't @ me

[@gulorful8488]

I don't like hypothetical videos that are like "Video game sequel that will make ME happy" instead of "Video game sequel that will improve the series." Adding FLUDD but keeping Gold varients feels like something that would only make you happy and not others.

[@Floormat-ux4rw]

liked the video, but FLUDD? and no Funky Kong? that’s rough.

[@zoomzike]

FLUDD will wash away anyone's tears, it's alright!

[@carbonmonteroy]

@@zoomzike But FLUDD needs water to do that, so I propose a tear recycling system, use the tears to destroy the tears

[@Steelbleeder]

All we need is HD Waluigi's Pinball

[@soulphur9647]

Dude, these people are doushebags, hating on you because some of their favourite characters or tracks aren't there. I really liked the video, it was very well structured. Reverse racing tracks is something that I always wanted in Mario Kart, mirror mode is a classic, but seems lazy and sometimes boring, some tracks really play/look different in mirror mode but in reverse mode it would be a COMPLETELY different thing. I agree with your opinion on MK8 graphics being too realistic, breaking the "innocence" the Super Mario universe has, scenario-wise at least. I also really liked how items would work, altough I would have picked different tracks for the cups, but that is just my preference im not going to whinny around because of that superficial fact, not everyone's favourites are included when a new Mario Kart game comes out. Yeah, screw characters that are not from the Mario universe! I liked your character selection (specially the King Boo variant), and I really want to point out *Funky Kong is the first thing I would put in a new Mario Kart game*, yet I'm not mad you didn't included it. If I included Funky in a future Mario Kart game it wouldn't be like the MKWii's one, because that thing just was one of the most OP things using the flamerunner (due to being able to perform miniturbos in place reaching top speed immediatly in that game), along with the daisy/match bike combination, new Funky Kong would have very mediocre stats, scoring a "Sakurai" there and showing the community it won't be always what they want, also character stats won't vary much if at all (nullifying my previous statement), becuse I want to pick the character that I want without having to worry about being to slow or too heavy. Also, the rearview screen customization would be a pretty nice feature. So yeah, I just wanted to cheer things up in the comment section, I see really unfair what people are doing in here hating on you, I liked your analysis and your concept.

[@zoomzike]

Yeah it's a little weird. At the end of the video I say how I've shown what "my" dream Mario Kart looks like, so I don't know why some people got so upset. Thanks for the kind and well-thought out comment!

[@meta04]

"no N64 skyscraper? no N64 rainbow road with its classic skip? *no acknowledgment of N64 Bowser's Castle being in the Star Cup?* 0/6144"

[@iKhaledGamer5500u]

Actually really good concept I would love to see this as an actual game

[@zoomzike]

I think it'd be pretty cool!

[@iKhaledGamer5500u]

@@zoomzike yeah

[@imsingle5805]

Kart transformations on and off should just be an option. It shouldn't be based on the track.

[@zoomzike]

How would that affect gliding sections of courses?

[@anequallygoodchannel.2761]

How I see the Thumbnail Mari nine kart defi nine tive.

[@zoomzike]

Yup yup!

[@steeltalongranduer2303]

Yo, you could add a double dash mode and for characters that are too big, have it show them eating a mini mushroom to shrink down to reasonable size, it would be really funny and fix the cart issues

[@zoomzike]

That'd be a funny addition.

[@ophem5533]

This looks amazing. Though the only problem is kicking out Funky Kong but... having Pink Gold Peach lol

[@zoomzike]

Yeeeeeeeeeeeah, I see ya with that one.

[@carterclem7]

What would be your strategy to give the time trial scene depth? I'm coming from a MKW background and think that game's pretty close to perfect (so of course I'm biased). While there are a couple cool ones, I find MK8DX's time trials to be very linear and boring. How would the item system work? Would it be based on placement or distance from first? I've found distance from first takes away from the excitement that makes mario kart multiplayer so exciting: comebacks. I'd personally favor placement-based item pulls, but I'd love to hear other ideas. Great video, love the time and effort you put into this! It turned out well :)

[@zoomzike]

I haven't spent much time on time trials in the Mario Kart series honestly. But seeing as how popular MKW's competitive scene was, I'd take a shot on basing it on that. While the distance item system makes a little more sense, chaos is what people come to Mario Kart for a lot of the time, so I'd probably go back to the place system. Glad you enjoyed!!

[@charliekahn4205]

This all sounds pretty great, but I would like to also add a few things: SRB2Kart is one of the most difficult, competitive, and innovative kart racer games ever made. It includes features like a variable kart speed, no real top speed, easy character modding, custom modes, and countless methods of ruthlessly destroying your opponents. I think Mario Kart could stand to gain some of its features. For instance: 1: Speed-dependent controls, mechanics, and items. SRB2K has a lot of these things. You can gain more speed by drifting down slopes (or if you're using character mods, sometimes rolling down them); speed panels are way more likely to send you off cliffs if you're not careful; you can even outrun the game's equivalent of the Blue Shell. Maybe also add more alternate routes only accessible at high speeds through the use of slope launches. 2: More ways of gaining speed. It's really jarring when you're playing Waluigi Pinball in MKDS and gain zero speed going down a giant hill. 3: Mods. Online play is broken as is, so why not surrender to the chaos?

[@bob171]

The cup layouts were too.. random. And why no GBA courses?

[@zoomzike]

I thought they looked cool when I arranged them. Which GBA courses do you suggest?

[@bob171]

@@zoomzike They are dont get me wrong, but I feel like there were too many that were already used as retro courses in MK8D. As for GBA courses? Well Sunset Wilds, Yoshi Desert, Broken Pier, Lakeside Park, and even Rainbow Road just to name a few of the more fun ones that havent been used already. I actually do like the character roster you decided, so nice job on that.

[@bobberflobber1954]

Such a ZoomZike thing to spend years of free time thinking of the concept revolving around a video, to spend days on end writing a script and editing a video so that everything comes together all nice and transitions well, to playing a lot of games for an unnecessary amount of hours specifically to receive the exact footage you need, only to be shat on for the smallest section of a 20 minute video representing your hard work.

[@saintmike8637]

This channel is good

[@zoomzike]

So are you

[@cyber895]

Honestly dude agreed with like everything you said. The characters, courses, and especially the track design. Having "modern" cups that incorporate the newer games' gimmicks along with retro cups that have the old-school simplicity is awesome sounding. Mario Kart Ultimate right here lol.

[@zoomzike]

Glad you agree!!

[@babyamiibo]

This video was made w love it's sad it doesnt have more views. I think its incredible dude.

[@zoomzike]

Yeah...I say a bit about it on my "The Effort to Growth Ratio" video. Glad you think it's incredible!!

[@Cobby17]

I come back to this video a lot, it's so well put together, and I love seeing your ideas. It leans a BIT too much into GameCube era for my liking, but I really love the way it's all presented. I think my only issue is probably with the lack of GBA tracks in the track selection, but seriously, your videos are all stuff I return to consistently, Mario Party analysis, Mario Kart ideas, etc, keep up the awesome work man!!

[@flipex6304]

Oh my god YES! Someone finally said that Mario's voice was way too annoyingly high pitched in Mario Kart 8! I thought i was the only one lol

[@zoomzike]

RIGHT?

[@min_is_mini]

16:12 **fake item box crying noises**

[@scrapyarddragon]

>4 rainbow roads in one cup you madman...

[@zoomzike]

You can do it, I believe in ya!

[@Kaygovegan]

I love the little smiling trees in Mario kart games

[@zoomzike]

I do toooooooo!

[@hedgehugs]

I don't wanna be like half the people in the comments, but... Imagine having the option to put Funky Kong in your own Mario Kart game but saying "No" and putting in FLUDD instead. Edit: Also not a big fan of the Blue Shell changes. A KZbinr (can't remember their name oof) said he didn't like how Blue Shells were grounded because it hits the people trying to catch up to first instead of helping them get to first, sure when it's grounded it helps the person who's throwing it more better but now it also helps the person in first.

[@zoomzike]

I know it may help 1st a little, but at the end of the day, a grounded blue shell will help the person who threw it _way_ more than a blue shell that only hits 1st place, which is how an item should be. A lot of people have love for Funky and I respect it, but I can only hope to receive the same respect in return since this is obviously an opinionated video.

[@polymerwario]

Now that Mario Kart Tour and Mario Kart Live introduced costumes, I would like to see those costumes in MK9. Instead of making them seperate characters, things would act like the Shy Guy and Yoshi colours where a menu would open with all of their costumes listed. The costumes would also make for a neat unlockable, being there just for looks and not having gameplay advantages like they do in Mario Kart Tour. On top if this, when Mario Kart Tour came out, they made the step forward towards a possible future Reverse mode, using ramps and such to help you get through the entire track backwards

[@joannis46678]

It sucks that you're getting so many dislikes because of the cut characters.

[@zoomzike]

I don't mind too much since if they're willing to disregard the entire video because of something like that, then they probably aren't the kinds of people to acknowledge other things I say in my other videos. I'm open to discussion but the instant disappointment on an opinionated video is so odd to me.

[@Sk0rchy]

@@zoomzike The editing is amazing specially for a smaller channel like this one. The dislikes seem petty.

[@zoomzike]

@Spaceman Alph Oh yeah, it could've been because of other disagreements of if they just thought the video was poorly made too. I mainly pointed out the cut characters thing because that's what I'm seeing the most out of with these comments. Glad you enjoyed though!

[@zoomzike]

@Ambition Do you think Double Dash looks more or less realistic than MK8?

[@jackasplat]

For your rendition of the Star Cup, Mario Kart 7 on the 3DS already implements an underwater pipe section in Koopa Cape AND a gliding section for Maple Treeway (but gets rid of the net entirely)

[@betanick14]

I love this man's enthusiasm and passion and I'm going to have to leave a like & subscribe

[@toonpik7]

I like the realistic graphics in MK8, I think they're colorful enough to fit in with the Mario theme, although maybe more cartoony elements would be cool, such as more Mario-like fauna. You should check out Mario Kart Arcade GP DX, sounds more like what you want in terms of graphics.

[@haha-uj5rj]

Who else reads the title as "Mario Kart Defi *_Nine_* Tive"

[@zoomzike]

That's how I pictured it, funny enough.

[@PKMX_]

I've been trying to come up with a concept for a new Mario Kart game, and I like to see other people's ideas so this was an interesting video to watch! One really obscure mechanic I'd really like to be re-introduced into Mario Kart is the ability to charge up a boost when you're not moving. I remember you could do it in Mario Kart Wii - for example, if you were hit by an item, you could hold two buttons at the same time (if I recall correctly) to charge up a little boost similar to a mini turbo, and it would allow you to pick up some momentum again. I don't know why, but I have really noticed its absence in recent Mario Kart games. Also, I'd love to have Funky Kong back. Cappy is a great choice as a new character too, and speaking of Mario Odyssey, I think a course based on New Donk City could be pretty cool. Similarly to Smash Bros, I think every character should have some palette swaps, and clone characters like Metal Mario wouldn't have their own character slots. No more Koopalings, no more Pink Gold Peach. Also I need Diddy Kong to return, and Waluigi Pinball is one of my favourite courses ever so I'd like to see that in the next game. I agree with having one character in a kart, but a Double Dash mode would be pretty neat. Along with a mode like that, there needs to be more single-player content (aside from damn time trials). Mission modes like Mario Kart DS would be a welcome inclusion, and some brand new single-player modes would be great of course. In terms of online play, I hate the ranking system in MK7/8. Mario Kart Wii did it perfectly by starting at 5,000VR and working your way up to 9,999, I just don't understand the current rankings. And last but not least, I want a cool character select screen (similar to the one you proposed in the video), and man I think MK8 Deluxe is a great game but it feels kinda dull compared to other Mario Kart games for some reason. I want MK9 to make Mario Kart feel cool again, it needs to have a lot of flair, with a beautiful cartoony art style and a brand-new, energetic soundtrack. I could ramble on and on about my ideal Mario Kart, but I'll leave it at that! Reflecting on this comment now, it appears that I basically just want a Mario Kart Wii remaster with some extra content. Apologies for the huge comment, hope you like my ideas!

[@zoomzike]

I don't like the Koopalings much myself, but I'd still keep them in by at least making Bowser Jr. have a skin for them like in Smash Ultimate. A Double Dash mode would be awesome! I'd love a cartoony art style once more. I understand what people are saying with MK8's art style, but it doesn't _look_ like how Mario's world looks for his hundreds of other games. Good ideas!

[@andre.drezus]

Everything was going smoothly until you forced Paper Mario down the throath needlessly with Dimentio.

[@fawfulthegreat64]

Including a series with lots of cool interesting characters Nintendo has a history of ignoring is "shoving it down the throat" K.

[@fawfulthegreat64]

@@formerlysammichu1 OK i never denied that, still I don't see why so many people have beef with him when plenty of Mario characters from one game have been used. Heck I'm pretty sure MKW was Rosalina's first appearance after Galaxy. And that doesn't mean I don't want Funky Kong also, I just don't like how so many people are scapegoating Dimentio (and Fawful) here when a proper RPG rep is what I've been dreaming of for years.

[@sarasilva4722]

You’re so right about Pauline why hasn’t she been in Mario Kart!?