Zoth Syra: A Cthulhu Mythos killed by August Derleth

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0:02:00 - Spawn of the Green Abyss
2:01:03 - The Will Of Claude Ashur
Zoth Syra: A Cthulhu Mythos killed by August Derleth
Charles John Thompson (March, 1923 to February, 1991) was a pulp writer who used the pen name C Hall Thompson. He published four stories in Weird Tales, including the Mythos stories Spawn of the Green Abyss and The Will of Claude Ashur.
August Derleth intervened to keep Thompson from writing more Mythos stories, writing in a letter to Ramsey Campbell:
He borrowed flagrantly from HP Lovecraft’s work, and we stopped it by writing to his editors pointing out his invasion of proprietary interests, though we would probably have given him the green signal to go ahead if he had submitted his work to us first. This he did not do; so it had to stop.
Some Lovecraft scholars have read not only a proprietary attitude but also jealousy into Derleth's actions. Robert M Price writes that:
the story goes that August Derleth intimidated Thompson into dropping the Lovecraft pastiche hobby, apparently because Thompson was working Derleth’s side of the street (and selling a better product).
S T Joshi also criticizes Derleth's approach:
It is not surprising that August Derleth apparently badgered Thompson to give up the idea of any further pastiches-not because Thompson had failed and was somehow tainting Lovecraft’s reputation, but precisely because he had succeeded, and succeeded far better than Derleth himself in any of his own Lovecraftian imitations.
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@Shacthulhu
@Shacthulhu 19 күн бұрын
I thank you indeed for the backstory. As one who is not much a fan of Derleth’s pastiche, I have often wondered, how many authors had their opportunities quashed by Derleth for being more talented than he? Personally, I believe Derleth did a great disservice to the genre, and insult to legacy, by claiming a mantle he couldn’t carry.
@colemarie9262
@colemarie9262 19 күн бұрын
What a history behind this one. Derleth having the nerve to worry about another author “borrowing” from lovecraft! Ha!
@kgb333m3
@kgb333m3 19 күн бұрын
could you please reupload the faceless god, the lurker at the threshold, beyond the threshold and ive been unable to remember the title of the last but the story is about a young man inheriting a house that is believed to be haunted by the narrators warlock grandfather/uncle, the narrator dreams that he is kidnapping children with the help of a familiar. he then finds a hidden room that turns out to be the room from his dream where he brought the children he captured. ive been here from the start and its been amazing watching the channel grow and thrive, you got the fire, the one place that actually puts the effort in to post lesser known stories.
@casard5235
@casard5235 2 күн бұрын
Thank you for these two stories It's a sad and angering commentary that this author could not pursue his gift.
@rtt1961
@rtt1961 14 күн бұрын
Great, and now obscure material, known only to true Lovecraftian fans. Thanks.
@RolandWieffering1
@RolandWieffering1 19 күн бұрын
What I heard about the subject is that Derleth and Wandrei founded Arkham House to collect all the Available writing of Lovecraft and publish all HPL's work . But that is what I thousands of miles away got as information about Derleth. I read also other work by him, "Not Long for this World" which includes "The Gold Box" A delightful little story. Any addition to the Cthulhu Mythos is welcome in my opinion. Realizing we live in the third decade of the 21st century more than a century later. And we still love Arkham, Innsmouth, and the likes. It's a kind of Nostalgia I guess.
@monkdog007
@monkdog007 19 күн бұрын
This person is an amazing writer.
@cosmicandbodyhorror
@cosmicandbodyhorror 18 күн бұрын
I believe this too
@kgb333m3
@kgb333m3 11 күн бұрын
@@cosmicandbodyhorror i beg of you please reupload the faceless god and the luker at the threshold etc....only one other channel that has it available has a reader who is so terrible that its impossible to listen to even when they are some of my favorites. the guy just butchers them and yells everything he reads, its torture..the same page has several other stories which people will love and be unfamiliar with
@RolandWieffering1
@RolandWieffering1 19 күн бұрын
I was pleasantly surprised by the Will of Claude Ashur, good find! Never heard of the fellow. Fits perfectly with the other stories. Thanks from Holland 👍🏻
@cosmicandbodyhorror
@cosmicandbodyhorror 18 күн бұрын
Cool, thanks!
@AnthonyBarnwell-vt5gd
@AnthonyBarnwell-vt5gd 19 күн бұрын
Nice man
@cosmicandbodyhorror
@cosmicandbodyhorror 18 күн бұрын
@Cthulhuismyhero
@Cthulhuismyhero 19 күн бұрын
Ive wondered what the Derleth/lovecraft clique drama would look like if they had social media back then. Theyre be so much beef!!! Imagine them arguing on Facebook or making revenge videos on KZbin. 😂😂😂😂
@Cthulhuismyhero
@Cthulhuismyhero 19 күн бұрын
Wonder what Warren would think if he wasn't dead. 😂
@KellyJacob-qb8ji
@KellyJacob-qb8ji 18 күн бұрын
What a thought!!!!!🎉
@nickpalmer7491
@nickpalmer7491 18 күн бұрын
Definitely better than anything Derleth did in the mythos. Superior in every way.
@RolandWieffering1
@RolandWieffering1 4 күн бұрын
Inneswich (hope I spell it right) is for me a genius combination of Innsmouth and Dunwich.
@Joseph-z7s3b
@Joseph-z7s3b 8 күн бұрын
Fun fact: Eldritch is Spanish for The Dritch.
@scottmiller2591
@scottmiller2591 17 күн бұрын
Not a fan of Derleth - he introduced Satanism into the Mythos, as if that made any sense.
@Arwcwb
@Arwcwb 19 күн бұрын
Shame on Derleth
@ryanrobison8973
@ryanrobison8973 10 күн бұрын
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