ZT 0707 - Initial Impressions and TDS Discussion

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[@matthewrodriguez8660]

I'm surprised not many people call the 0707 the double 07

[@rossco5995]

The tuned detent is mainly combating pressure on lock bar when deploying. It's probably my favorite knife.

[@JohnC29]

You got that right. The handle is so narrow that it would be hard to keep your finger off the lock bar when opening it.

[@shaunpearson7905]

wish they had this on my ZT462 - lovely knife, but I must watch how I hold it when opening.

[@liljuanito123]

There's no "hey", that has to be a requirement from here on!

[@BirdShotIV]

hahaha!

[@1130jawz]

I second!

[@richardvirchow3390]

The ZT 0562 used to be my favorite Zero Tolerance folder, now the ZT 0707 is my favorite, followed by the ZT 0562 then the ZT 0235.

[@wyldebill7248]

Hell yes! ZT and fall!

[@Rippleshanks]

That's a handsome blade. Kind of gives off a gentleman's carry vibe.

[@BirdShotIV]

it's got some sleek style for sure

[@Aaron-lx3gz]

When I first tuned into this channel, you guys annoyed the shit out of me. Giggling and secondary commentary was too much. I then realized it was me. You guys are nerds like me. But, more importantly, you are best friends, that share a common interest. It is one of the most endearing things I have seen in a long time. Certainly unique in the knife community. Proud follower and love the content. You guys make me smile and I aspire to have this level of love, passion and fun with my partner in life. Cheers and thank you for the humbling perspective.

[@BirdShotIV]

Thank you for these kind comments and thanks for being honest. We are ourselves and we enjoy life and each other and we want people just like you to see that you can be happy in life with your significant other which can also be your best friend. We just happen to talk about knives sometimes too. Thanks for watching! -Frankie

[@Aaron-lx3gz]

@@BirdShotIV Thanks for the reply, Frankie!. Don't ever change. Cheers!

[@darrenconn3847]

Great vid as usual!

[@thomaslanders6244]

I’ve been into this knife thing a long time and have a lot of knives. Not a flipper fan but still have 7-8 including a few ZT’s. Best way to break in a knife is to use it. After cutting up a bunch of cardboard etc, a tight knife can be like night and day.

[@gumbihilt1333]

Haven't gotten one in hand, but thinking about ordering one. Not sure. It's on my short list of 7.

[@kevink.2719]

Another great video

[@BirdShotIV]

Thanks Kevin

[@SteelHex]

I got a little award money from work, so I’m rewarding myself with this ZT 0707. It’s my first USA-made high-end production knife, and I’m not disappointed. It’s a little stiff due to the small flipper, but once it gets going flies open with a satisfying thwack (technical term). I’m not concerned with how it closes, so lack of drop-shut doesn’t bother me. What makes me happy is the attention to detail that they can afford for a $248 knife. - Top end super steel (20CV) - Full flat ground blade with relief swedge - Matte but not stonewashed blade finish - 3D machined titanium & carbon fiber frame - Custom pivot screw with ball bearings - Steel lock bar insert doubling as overtravel stop - Steel insert with TDS carved into the CF frame - Serrated and hollowed flipper tab - Custom deep carry pocket clip with a unique retention system - Custom barrel spacers - Very slim and light despite 3.5” blade - Frame hole by the pivot as a custom touch In short, it’s a pocket knife that any serious knife enthusiast can respect.

[@doofy28]

I just ordered the zt0456.💥 I'd like to see ZT improve a few models so that I could buy them.

[@BirdShotIV]

love the 456!!

[@batteredhilt8016]

Love it

[@elusivellama]

I picked up a 0707 and I like it a lot. I don't even mind that it doesn't close on its own, I'd rather that I deliberately shut the blade instead of having it come down on my fingers (as it's a slim knife with less handle surface area). I much prefer the TDS advantage where I can hold down anywhere on the locking surface and still flick the knife open.

[@jasonbrown6686]

Hey !! ZTs in the park !!

[@BirdShotIV]

1st!

[@jasonbrown6686]

BirdShot IV oh yeah !!!

[@bomtradym4027]

looks like a great edc, nice clip on it

[@BirdShotIV]

we'll be updating soon!

[@waynepalmer6743]

I like the 0707. It's slim i bet it is light. I like the blade design. My EDC for years has ben my down under outback bowie. Lol yea i know. But the 0707 is a lot of knife in a small package.

[@northwoodsleatherworksco]

I had the 0707 for 2 months and the action never changed. The TDS system will always make it feel stiff - which is fine, just not for me. Therefore, I sold it. Great video as always!

[@BirdShotIV]

Thanks Troy

[@JohnC29]

I like it but wouldn't pay more than $200 for it.

[@mikerankin34]

I like thinner knives, they are good if you pocket carry your ccw.

[@glenngoins3100]

That's really nice, but you know me I'd rather have the spring assisted. I'm getting the Kershaw galyeen and it reminded me of the ZT. Or rather, the ZT reminded me of the Kershaw 7 Galyen. ♥️

[@jacksonh5691]

Great vid

[@BirdShotIV]

thanks Jackson!

[@mr.scurvy]

The TDS system debuted on the ZT0427 prototype at Blade a few years back.

[@BirdShotIV]

True, but it never went anywhere

[@DarthRambaldi47]

Get straight Go forward Move ahead Try to detect it It's not too late To flip it Flip it good

[@BirdShotIV]

😂😂🎉🎉

[@nathannettik455]

When there's a knife that comes along, you must flip it!

[@jameskerlin6081]

No one gets away , until they flip it

[@justinrowan4069]

TDS and the issue it attempts to resolve is one reason I love liner locks.

[@meepster3050]

Definitely designed to prevent death lock from pressure on the lock bar while opening the blade. You may lose the smooth drop shut retraction, but that’s just the trade off you get.

[@MrRoboto1963]

I don't know if you guys ever got one but Kershaw first released a knife with TDS a while back. Called the Deadline, designed by Matt Diskin. It's really a great knife, I'd say my favorite of the recent Chinese made models. It does seem like a better quality knife than most of their Chinese knives. In fact if they upgraded the steel they would have no problem fitting it in with their US made line. I bought one when they first came out, and then later I think it was last year, they went on clearance and I got another one for like 20 bucks. I think some sellers still have some in stock, but Kershaw said they are discontinued for 2020. Would be interesting to see how the TDS from the Kershaw Deadline compares functionally to this ZT model. Keep up the great videos

[@mattharvey968]

When you have so many knives you can’t remember the model!😆 and two balls are better then one!

[@michaelk487]

Cool 😎

[@jackdillon4467]

Mine is EXTREMELY hard to open! Sending it probably back for an exchange to Blade HQ

[@theallix]

Would be kind of neat if Shirogorov used something like the TDS. My functional complaint about that brand is that it is super susceptible to lockbar pressure not allowing it to open

[@socmonki]

I remember, I was so hyped about this knife thinking ZT was bringing back the 0777 (obviously modified). I was so let down when I saw what it was. I'm still kind of let down because, in all honesty, the Bareknuckle is what this knife should have been. Oh well, I have the sprint CF/M390 Bareknuckle, which is as close to a 777 as I'll ever get, so I'm happy. I was so disappointed with the 0707, that I bought a Shaman. It was an excellent choice.

[@GrumpyGrunt]

That pivot collar made me think it had the CRKT Takedown (tm) system on it or something. I like the concept of a tuned detent, but we'll have to see how it works in execution. I want to check out one of those Tumblers one of these days too. I like the general design, but that handle looks less than comfortable. "It just hhhhwhips right out." -- Frankie and Stewie Griffin.

[@AH-yu2pi]

Based on the discretion of the 0707 clip, I would prefer it, especially for carrying in the office. Sometimes discretion is prioritized over the convenience of a quick grab.

[@jeffscalfano3100]

I thought the double detent system kept the knife from having death lock. Or allowing it to open when your fingers are on the lockbar.

[@markprice6911]

On my long, slender knives, I've found that most of the "stickiness" has to do with finger placement (pressure on the lock bar).

[@7Steels]

Since I am left handed and have stated before that we leftys have an issue opening framelock knives. When I open a framelock, I put my thumb right on top of the lockbar and this of course henders the opening of the knife. This is the reason that I prefer linerlock knives. Plus the fact that linerlocks look good on both sides. ZT is probably trying to mitigate the issue with the lockbar by having the 2 ball system. I commend them for doing it. For me if it creates a slow "non smooth" closing problem...so what. I'm more intrested in the opening of a knife than how it closes.

[@jasonvaughnjr.6804]

Your my inspiration I have a buck bantam bbw gerber mini paraphrame and a victorinox feildmaster I dont have a big colection but one day I want to be like you

[@BirdShotIV]

haha thanks Jason

[@vincentberry1687]

Bought 2 for myself and gift for my best friend. We both love the knife. Nay sayers need to get a life. I have a habit of putting pressure on the lock bar of frame locks when deploying the blade with a flipper. This makes it difficult to impossible to deploy the blade. ZT’s tuned detent system solves this problem! Works great every time! In use, I’ve never closed a knife using gravity. Pushing the blade closed with my forefinger is no biggie. Thus I know by feel, without a need to check visually, that the knife is positively closed before pocketing. Smooth consistent deployment and positive lock up is far more important for me. BTW I’m a collector with hundreds, if not over a thousand, knives. Ranging from the tiniest Spyderco to swords longer than I am tall. Prices range from sub-$20 to well over $1,000+ of both manufactured and custom blades. Just saying that I have considerable experience handling knives for at least 60 years. Not just handling but actually working with knives as tools.

[@Haydencpalmer]

Does the show face detent help to keep the blade centered too?

[@714milky]

Hey

[@BirdShotIV]

3rd

[@bigB6flyer]

The 707 looks so much like the satin bladed crkt Lck but with much better steel. Don’t see myself getting this one.

[@BibleLovingLutheran]

The double detent causes it not to close smooth.

[@49giants3]

What’s with zt putting holes in the middle of the knives? The 707 , and the brown one have holes in the same place, why? Seems like a pocket lint collector thanks for sharing bird, and Frankie. If that 452 had 20cv I would have bought that rather than the 357

[@H1GHT3CK]

Would be great without TDS. Sold mine quickly

[@jasonbrown6686]

I have Zero Tolerance for people who don’t SMASH THAT LIKE BUTTON 👍👍!!!

[@toddstamos89]

The problem I have, and I’ve own it since it came out, is that it’s a “scary” looking gentleman’s folder, in that it’s a long and aggressive looking blade for the office. And this is designed to be a more gentleman’s knife. Problem is that it’s a longer and aggressive looking blade, so it’s not the best for office carry. So what’s the point? If you’re going to carry an aggressive looking 3.5 inch blade, there are better options.

[@erhon5]

I thought the tds was to help with opening it, like when some people have problems adding detent pressure and then have trouble flipping it open. Maybe I wasn’t understanding it correctly

[@BirdShotIV]

we probably didn't make that clear enough. yes, it is for opening, but the resulting side effect may be stiff retraction. thanks Erin

[@paulsouders3489]

I want

[@Fablades]

that is a nice one for sure, but maybe a bit overpriced?

[@avihsnis]

oof, think this 0707 needs to be my first ZT

[@ncedc9567]

Really havent liked any zt lately idk not as bold and unique like past models.

[@randyf.9188]

I don't understand the design choice of an open area directly behind the pivot. 🤷‍♂️

[@toadstkr]

So it’s like an Emerson but a frame lock

[@wOrdTHANATOS]

It will never be drop shut. Because of the double detent

[@1130jawz]

Tell ZT we will be able to acknowledge their knives better if they had names, not just random 4 digit numbers! 😂

[@draftierinfern0831]

You guys should tell Nick about not lubricating soon after buying 😂

[@MrRoboto1963]

I get so many knives for my collection that I don't barely use, I could never break them all in, lol. My users are different, but most knives I get for collecting I break them down and clean and lubricate them right away

[@benjamincarter6095]

I'm talking about the stiff, pointy thing I can't stop playing with. It's just a little stiff, and I can't lubricate it until after nature takes its course. So guess what is in my pocket this week...

[@Cypeq]

hey did the action got better with time? did you fuck with it? ;D

[@robertkain7890]

So, are you guys suggesting that the ZT 0707 is suffering from Priapism?

[@paulsouders3489]

Hey would you guys want to trade a reate k3 tanto unused and uncarried i bought from knife center im all about zt lol I got it because the blade looks like the zt 0055 but im really interested in the 707 or the 0095bw im sorry I don't know how else to Reach you but I would Definitely send the knife 1st

[@brianhughes7042]

I love the knife but hate the double Detent stuff close action and especially for $248.00 thats the only reason I haven’t gotten one. The drop shut or hydraulic close is one of my favorite things about knifes and knifes with great action almost drop shut ZT essentially ruined the action on this knife by doing that stupid attachment. They should make a version without it and I’ll bet it would sell better. IMHO

[@winchesterinc.5643]

😂 Tit and Carbon Fiber sounds like an Instagram name that pops up on a knife person’s suggestions. I think we all scroll through it, but we don’t follow because of wifely consequences.

[@jimm244]

I personally don’t think drop shut is a big deal. As a mater of fact, my 0801 had bitten me a time or two because of it.

[@carlstanland5333]

I hope you didn’t leaf any knives there, but who leaves a knife behind? I’d be falling over myself to make sure I had them.

[@BirdShotIV]

we always do haha

[@ohioknifelover]

Not first

[@BirdShotIV]

2nd

[@HollywoodTacticool]

when the the legendary centenarian Claude Levi-strauss pioneered the the intellectual school of thought that organized classification of comparisons of similarity and difference as family relationships based on kinships, I don't think he predicted that Frankie would be talking about production knives making babies and producing a hybridized third! lol.

[@Kyle_Sentz]

This is where our opinions really differ. Just me but I think the whole break in period is BS. I tell people in my FB edc groups to tear apart their knives immediately and clean it out, relube and readjust it to where theres no play and its centered. 9 times outa 10, you'll improve the action 3x over if not better when you dissassemble and reassemble it. Big production knife companies don't always adjust the pivots optimally and dont use the best lubricants out there. Throw some 10wt nano oil or KPL in there and readjust that pivot and you'll be suprised on the amount of improvement. Another reason I say to do this is depending on how old the model is, it can sit on retailers shelves for weeks,months or even a year or more and that pivot oil will be gummed up beyond measure. I have the 0308 and I took it apart within 5 min of opening it and now its norseman level dropshutty, no wrist at all. Ive never experience later issues from cleaning and readjusting my knives immediately our of the box.

[@philsalvage]

This one doesn’t move me

[@BirdShotIV]

thanks for watching!

[@chevykid22]

I've heard many negative things. I honestly can't say 100% personally. I've never owned one for myself and I don't know that I will

[@GOxHAM]

If it had g10 handles instead of CF I would've been sold. Really cool in house design. I also like the tuned detent system

[@carrollhill6117]

Where's the HAAAAY or heeeey?

[@syafiq271]

NO HEY! WHAT GIVES!

[@charlesrobillard190]

Graphite.

[@jamespragerjr.9814]

It’s not the closing it’s the opening if put pressure on the lock bar it will still OPEN!!!!!! Watch other reviews

[@nathankendall3519]

The TDS is designed for when you open it and your possibly applying pressure on the lock bar. Not for if you accidentally doing it when you’re closing it. So it won’t break in and be “fall-shut” ever.

[@HollywoodTacticool]

yet another case of "if it ain't broke don't fix it." and "a solution in search of a problem."

[@49giants3]

Don’t trip Bird. Guys wear the same shit all the time. No offense Frankie, but women dress for other women. When was the last time you heard a dude say look at her outfit. ? Lol

[@chrisjaskulski8613]

Wow, an innovation that ruins action... 🙄 they should have called it Slowsafe.

[@BirdShotIV]

well to be fair, the deployment is excellent

[@chrisjaskulski8613]

@@BirdShotIV Yeah, but so does a Ganzo FH61... I'm just still mourning the apparent death of what used to be my favorite, my first love, the "gateway" company that really cemented my knife addiction. I'm weirdly offended by their new stuff

[@johnd9357]

Chris Jaskulski they stopped innovating. Everything is carbon fiber, titanium, flipper, frame lock, with either s35vn or 20cv/m390. Everything they offer is literally the same knife in different shapes. You can have anything you want as long as it’s a flipper on bearings with carbon fiber and titanium.

[@chrisjaskulski8613]

@@johnd9357 *Glow in the dark CF 🙄

[@findingnemo696]

Hey

[@JacobTheHappy1]

Hey

[@BirdShotIV]

Hey!!