Zuby and Carl Benjamin DESTROY White Privilege In 12 Minutes

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• The West is In Decline...
In this conversation between Zuby and Carl Benjamin, they discuss issues related to race, identity, and multiculturalism. They criticize the use of terms like "white supremacy" and "people of color," arguing that such labels are overly broad and lack nuance. They highlight the challenges of multiculturalism in Western countries, pointing to the success of diverse populations in places like Dubai, where a strong rule of law and shared values contribute to harmony.
The speakers express concerns about the lack of assimilation and respect for local culture in Western societies and suggest that enforcing certain rules and expectations can foster successful integration. They also touch on the role of guilt and self-criticism among some white individuals in discussions about diversity and cultural identity.
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[@scottttym]

I filled out a survey for my teacher's federation. They asked my ethnicity. There were 25 different asian choices, a few Arabic ones, two or three for black people, and one choice for white.

[@royarnehansen]

Was there an alien option?

[@thorin1045]

but how? ethnicity is one of the least broad option, no good idea with fixed choice, just give a box and we will fill it, as there are - depending on how you slice it is - either a few hundred of them or easily over several thousand.

[@ohsweetmystery]

@@thorin1045Don't be asking anyone anything about personal identity on any survey or application.

[@scottttym]

There was an other, and a fill in the blank option. But for some reason, I felt like a racist as I added Scottish in the blank...

[@cyrusfreeman9972]

White: Because Irish, Scots, and English all get along so well.

[@BarriosGroupie]

I no longer identify simply as 'White' when I fill in forms but fill in 'other' as: " a person of indigenous British mixed ginger/blond/brunet white colour".

[@joeycurtis1872]

I have black, brown, blonde, red, and Grey in my hair. I have green, brown, and yellow in my eyes. My skin is covered in freckles, an overproduction of melanin. My skin is more peach than white. White isn't a place, I'm not Russian or from the caucuses mountains, where we're called Caucasian. Nothing the modern world describes as fits.

[@IamMysterium]

I put Neanderthal.

[@Smokey348]

brudda its good that you identify as what you actually because you aren't white, but what do you mean with ''white colour''? Hair colour?

[@Smokey348]

@@joeycurtis1872 you can't even have white skin colour. Everyone that is labeled as white has a pinkish beige skin tone or peachy skin tone

[@kipp1231]

I never fill in ethnicity forms. You are either good enough for the position or not. Ethnicity shouldn't matter!

[@amarok5048]

You've come here from there. Don't try and make here like there. If you don't like it here, go back to there.

[@whitemagus2000]

Deep down everyone knows that back there sucks. But that's a big part of post modern communist thought: you must be willing to say what you know to be a lie.

[@1108chuck]

Thing is, we have all come from "there". Bringing the "there" "here" we grow as a people. We learn other trades, skills, cultures and many other things we may have never discovered otherwise. We'd still be living in caves, probably freezing, because the one who discovered fire wasn't allowed to come there.

[@thelopper43]

​@@1108chuckyou do understand there is a huge difference between when people integrate together vs refuse to integrate and form separate ethnic enclaves? Melting pot vs multiculturalism? Long story short. Multiculturalism inevitably leads to conflict.

[@DeadpoolX9]

I don't understand why people bring old world grudges to the new world. They came here for a NEW life right? Then why recreate the exact things we're trying to get away from?

[@gerhardswanepoel3493]

@@1108chuck some people still stay in caves. The khoisan in south africa still live in the wild and I'm sure there are others as well.

[@sarkastodon30]

That last sentence. Any other time another culture comes in and sets up their culture that is different from the host culture. That is colonialism in any other context. Very true.

[@ifeifesi]

That's not true. Historically, when you look at colonialism, whites came into African & Asian countries and set themselves apart by not only having a different culture and not integrating but also by using military power to protect themselves & subjugate the majority host culture. This is not a feature we see with immigration be it legal or illegal in UK, Europe or the US today.

[@zxyatiywariii8]

​@@ifeifesiIdk, as a woman who refuses to cover myself all up in a black hood and cape, I wouldn't walk through certain neighborhoods in the US. . . where "naked" hair is deemed "slutty" and armed men patrol "their" colonial streets.

[@bobdeslob8768]

@@ifeifesiso your entire knowledge of history begins in the 20th century? Got it. You’re the problem.

[@patmckinstry756]

In history..every civilisation has gone into other countries and tried to colonise them..sometimes successfully..See the conquering of the Ottoman Empire..Alexander the Great ect..This is being perpetrated to destroy N.America..🙏🏽

[@vidarkristiansen8989]

@@ifeifesi Not quite yet. But for the thousands of girls who fell victim to grooming gangs it must have felt like this what you describe has already happened.

[@csv8944]

I am truly done with the despicable attempts to make my white skin colour a problem.

[@mariemotivation1182]

Because you started, you make others peoples skin color a problem for them

[@ohsweetmystery]

What sort of diversity is there in the Nigerian Royal Family? Such a silly complaint.

[@adamdewitt6430]

Because it's not about diversity; it's about ceaselessly criticizing what is perceived as dominant. The British Royal family is, to postcolonialists, a symbol of global "white hegemony" that has been forced and violenced upon the poor, helpless "colored" world that was pure and righteous before the Colonial period - a variable Garden of Eden (although they wouldn't use this analogy because of "Christian hegemony"); and this "hegemony" needs to be exposed, challenged, and destroyed wherever it is - and it's assumed a priori to be everywhere, even within the British Royal family. The only way to "properly" decolonize the Royals is to "diversify" it - meaning getting people with the politically correct (that which is politically advantageous to and aligned with the far Left) views and "knowledge of the world" with also the "correct" skin tone to join the family. The more extreme postcolonialists would say that it needs to be abolished entirely because it's an irredeemable institution and symbol of "white supremacy" "imposing" its hegemonic power upon the "POC" (anyone of approved skin tone who "properly" acknowledges their victimhood and oppressed status, languished in it, and joins to overthrow the oppressive societal powers to usher in the promised utopia) world.

[@tractordamage5272]

White culture isn't Narcissistic in general, black culture is the most Narcissistic (alongside Islam). So modern whites would never force their skin colour onto others due to Self-Absorption. Whites aren't utterly self-absorbed like a Leftist Black Narcissist. So they wouldn't force their way into black movies, to Gaslight and abuse blacks, for example. White culture isn't rife with 'Narcissist Personality Disorder' like the black community is...well except for 'Woke' Covert Narcissists of course. Whites tend to have Empathy for other races, unlike Black Narcissists such as BLM...who ONLY get triggered by 'hurt' to their own colour (like all Racial Supremacists). Isn't it strange the 'Woke' Narcissist cannot see the Narcissist traits...and the Supremacy...of the Narcissist cultures they support. It's because they are Narcissists too.

[@elementalargon7597]

I don't know, but I have had several of them send me an email about the $50 million they have in a bank account, and they want to share it with me if I only send them a $1000 to unlock the account.

[@beyondthesacrosanctbreeze]

​@@elementalargon7597Yeah I sent them 2k just to be safe, so they wouldn't forget about me. You know, gotta start off on the right foot and all 🦶👣

[@PyromancerRift]

There is a genocide in nigeria

[@user-ut3ot9bl6k]

My wife is white, I’m samoan and black. And we haven’t benefitted from any white privilege that she so call has. I actually benefit more from my minority status than her.

[@Johansen1000]

Money is the only thing that is gonna give you privilege, you can say it's a privilege to be born in America compared to India but you're still gonna have more privilege in India if you're rich that someone who's poor in America, it's the money that gives you privilege, not your skin color or place of birth.

[@fredmercury1314]

That's not how the Communists see it. White supremacy and whiteness are not about race. It's about Communism. Watch the video, it explains it all. WATCH THIS TO UNDERSTAND WHAT'S HAPPENING IN THE UK: >>> Woke: A Culture War Against Europe | James Lindsay at the European Parliament

[@InfectedMoo]

You’re only partly right. Impoverished people in America have better access to clean drinking water, affordable or free food, shelter, quality of life amenities (do you have any idea how many homeless Americans own smart phones?) and many other factors of their lives will be better than the middle or upper class in India. Of course if you compare the very bottom of society of one country with the very top of society in another, you’re going to get tilted results, but I would infinitely prefer to be homeless in the USA than to be ‘rich’ in the Congo.

[@Johansen1000]

​@@InfectedMoo You really think a homeless person in the US have more privilege than Moïse Katumbi Chapwe in Congo, stop the cap.

[@coltonwilliams4153]

@@Johansen1000 Depends… are we talking about the con artists that pretend to be homeless to get a couple hundred dollars a day from donations?

[@Johansen1000]

@@coltonwilliams4153 Just stop being disingenuous, you know exactly what i mean when i say a homeless person, no one is talking about some scam artist pretending to be homeless. Back to the topic at hand, White Privilege is a racist idea that's clearly not true, when even in America you have millions of non-white people that have more privilege than millions of white people, if you want to go down that go down that road labeling entire groups of people based on statistical averages, than you get Indian Privilege, Filipino Privilege, Taiwanese Privilege, Sir Lankan Privilege, Japanese Privilege, Malaysian Privilege, Pakistani Privilege, Asian Women Privilege because earn more than white man, Black Women Privilege because earn more than Hispanic men, do you get it now?

[@JeremiahHartmanPhotography]

So my family is one of those German families that emigrated to the U.S. and My great-grandfather forbid my grandad (who was 8) from even speaking German. They came to the U.S. for a better life, they loved what America stood for, and they respected American Culture. They held onto their German traditions at home while adopting American ones..and then when my grandad turned 17 he enlisted in the US Navy to go and fight against Hitler. Im all for legal immigration, but this disdain for the US and Britain etc by immigrants has got to STOP. If you hate the host country, it's population, it's people....find another country you can better assimilate to!

[@deliarealtor]

My grand parents came from Portugal, they insisted their children speak English.

[@theleo3727]

The lord came to rebuild replenish and renew. Those who are of Satan only come to destroy. They only seek to victimize and claim the victim.

[@dennisdose5697]

11:22 my three German grandparents all spoke English. As a result, all of their children and grandchildren had full access to anything the country had to offer. Asian immigrants, recent African immigrants, seem to have understood this is just how life works also. If I moved to France or Japan I would expect to learn a new language also. Frankly, groups that miss this lesson are letting their kids down hard.

[@Cardinal_claw]

Agreed, but wanted to add the ones who refuse to learn are worse. They are actively choosing to set their kids up for failure or struggle by not adjusting their habits to where they've moved

[@16m49x3]

@@Cardinal_claw And yet they are being appeased, and don't actually have to learn anything as the shops use their language, and the tube does too

[@mattiasdahlstrom2024]

Imagine if Eisenhower had not seen himself as American as he fought against the Nazis

[@michaelsorensen7567]

Can confirm, lived in Japan for my 5th grade year, cause my dad was a uni professor and they did a teacher swap program, so he brought us all with. We all had to learn Japanese.

[@JACKDAWFISH]

"When in Rome..." does anyone even remember the adage? Not the Marxists.

[@ditta7865]

I have heard more of this stuff from Black people talking about white privilege then whites but when I do it is always a white woman.

[@mztokyo7630]

Liberal White Women, virtue signaling.

[@nepaliyuva408]

That make sense. Why would white man wanna talk about white privileged? It’s beneficial to them. For example, white parents complain about Asian making harder for their kids to enter good school because Asian study too hard. They are saying Asian are making it too competitive for their children to get in and campuses should not only focus on test score and academics. You don’t hear Asian parents complaining about entrance being more competitive or test score because it’s beneficial to them. Asian parents these days complain about affirmative action because it’s not beneficial to them now. When affirmative benefited Asian back in the days, they didn’t complain. Moral of the story is people look out for their self interest.

[@tipsyt1909]

Because white women want to be victims so badly so they become victims by proxy on behalf of others.

[@Neognostic-pk5wu]

We need to call it the Robin dAngelo effect. She is definitely a "type".

[@pure-blood17]

More than likely it was a jew pretending to be white.

[@Andrew-mv2qb]

The ‘Issue’ is never really the ‘Issue’. The ‘Issue’ is always the “Revolution”. Look at all of it in these terms and you get it.

[@zxyatiywariii8]

Exactly.

[@bklan9899]

James Lindsay would be proud lol. Too right.

[@fredmercury1314]

White supremacy and whiteness are not about race. It's about Communism. Watch the video, it explains it all. WATCH THIS TO UNDERSTAND WHAT'S HAPPENING IN THE UK: >>> Woke: A Culture War Against Europe | James Lindsay at the European Parliament

[@James_36]

Revolution seems to be funded by the leaders of the nations also - I mean there is a reason this woke stuff is so dominant, nothing this dominant ever gets that way without huge financial support from elites

[@DavidLongo22]

I wonder if we'll ever get to the point that we're all just people.

[@kylemenos]

No dude the worst is yet to come. America is bombing half the middle-east five countries now i think maybe there thinking of six or seven. Malaysia is revoking Muslim rule in governement so thats gonna be fun. Africa is having Jihad attacks with wide-spread Cristian killing. Vlad has Ukraine on it's knees and managed to convince the president to send it's men to other countries. Muslims are singing songs about genocides in European Parliment buildings. It seems to me like we might be screwed or this is just normal not sure.

[@ruuman]

We pretty much did in the 90s, then the grifters came.

[@saraross8396]

It seems we did, briefly, for a time, but now you are apparently "racist" if you say so. There's no winning with some people because to them you're racist if you notice their skin tone and also racist if you don't.

[@BrockLanders]

I naively thought so about 20 years ago because we had been going in the right direction for years. But there are way too many resentful people carrying around a victim mentality and too many people carrying around guilt for things they didn’t do, both of which are equally dysfunctional mindsets.

[@DiscoCitizens240]

Up to the late 2000s it felt that way to a certain extent, then we were force fed narratives and tragic events were weaponized to further divide us. Back then I said we were acting like it’s 1910 instead of 2010.

[@wanick2]

The fact that these two people can discuss this and laugh about its absurdity while so many of people lose the minds about the same subject is very telling that a truth is a truth no matter how few belive it and a lie is still a lie no matter how many believe it.

[@anthonyv50189]

Just filled out a college app w/ my daughter and they asked "race" I was inclined to simply check all of the choices. Instead I saw "optional" and selected none of them.

[@asl7235]

should have wrote HUMAN.

[@mattmccullough1093]

People should just start putting human. Because technically were all the same race just different colors.

[@marcradermacher6244]

Heaven is where the police are British, the cooks are French, the mechanics German, the lovers Italian and it's all organised by the Swiss. Hell is where the chefs are British, the mechanics French, the lovers Swiss, the police German and it's all organised by the Italians.

[@user-pd3yz7ip5b]

I assume you mean the British police from about 20 years ago? I would take German police currently as they can't be worse than the police we have currently.

[@VainerCactus0]

@@user-pd3yz7ip5bIt is an older saying so almost certainly at least 20 years ago.

[@friedmandesigns]

I'm a HOIEO ... Hominin of Indigenous Earth Origin. Meaning, human born on Earth. As-is every single other bio-geographic ancestry on this planet. Don't worry ... folks will quickly forget about "Othering" anyone that looks different from them, and will actually unite and see past the Divide-and-Conquer cortisol-addiction feedback loops of Identitarians, once we're all rallied as one to battle the robots, haha. Cheers Zuby. ❤‍🔥

[@Fairbranksthecat]

Shout out to all my hominids

[@notbloodylikely4817]

People of Metal, please.

[@Choryrth]

i honestly might side with the robots mate. people are just so, fucking, stupid haha

[@oz_jones]

​@@notbloodylikely4817you can say clanka, but clanker is *our* word

[@fredmercury1314]

White supremacy and whiteness are not about race. It's about Communism. Watch the video, it explains it all. WATCH THIS TO UNDERSTAND WHAT'S HAPPENING IN THE UK: >>> Woke: A Culture War Against Europe | James Lindsay at the European Parliament

[@loxley75]

When they talk about 'white privilage' what they are talking about is 'black disadvantage', and look I get it, as someone who has lived a large part of their adult life as a white european in Asian countries I can totally agree that there are some disadvantages to living in a country that is not your ancestral origin. But here are two important points, firstly, many of those disadvantages are relitively minor and are totally eclipsed by other positives that your sitiuation brings,. Secondly, it in no way affects the position of the majority population whose ancestral origins are tied to the country. It is ridiculous to call thye majority 'priviliged', they are simply the base level norm. Any disavantage you have is your business to deal with!

[@notbloodylikely4817]

Class doesn't enter into it and that's part of the problem. In identitarian politics, a homeless white drug addict is still more privileged than a black judge because of their skin pigment.

[@menacemini4894]

Black people have been slaves on this land before the country was even formed 🤣🤣 . Black people have also fought in every War this country has been in so again this country was never fully white. For 256 years Blacks weren’t even allowed to read a book and you think That wouldn’t cause some kind of traumatic experience? Especially when the science states that trauma is passed down from generation to generation

[@DiscoCitizens240]

Exactly. It’s a ‘majority privilege’ if you can use that term. Jordan Peterson talk about this a while back

[@enemysub9057]

Regressives are very fond of the fallacious flip. The trick is to quite simply fool people into believing that a false opposite is also true. It works a lot like the false conditional statement used by Muslims who have foolishly been deceived into believing that a lack of contradictions implies that their book is true in the same way that the opposite (contradictions) would imply that the book is false.

[@loxley75]

@@DiscoCitizens240 it’s the word privilege being applied to the majority that I have issue with. Privilege denotes a special right or advantage. How can it be ‘special’ if it applies to the overwhelming majority of people in the country?

[@cavebear7261]

When someone told me they were a POC I thought they meant Piece of Crap. Lol genuinely was confused and they had to explain it to me.

[@kylemenos]

The funny thing about the old one 'coloured people' sounded like a child had a crayon and filled in a white person to make the others. Shows you how illiterate these fools are. Vlad the lad is laughing is ass off at the Americans how they destroyed Europe with name calling after Stalin got away with the largest genocide on the planet. Everyone knows about the German one but no ones even heard of the Jewish guys behind the Gulags and how a hundred million Christians were slaughtered including 50k priests.

[@zxyatiywariii8]

Ikr I really hate that term! 🤦🏾‍♀️😡

[@jasonheilinger8437]

😂😂you big dummie! In my Fred Sanford voice.

[@redts12]

😂

[@christracy2144]

Got to admit, the first time I saw POC in a comment online, I thought the same thing.

[@brandondavis5596]

I always thought that white was a color.

[@joshjohnson2600]

Ignore that you can choose that as a paint, crayon, pencil or pastel option.

[@shawnii7181]

​@@joshjohnson2600😂😂😂

[@insertoyouroemail]

White light is a combination of all colors.

[@mikewazowski489]

White is a shade, but so is black, so...

[@rationalbacon5872]

Its a shade

[@michaelmcgourty9535]

Zuby is the BEST! Bringing back common sense to the conversation.

[@savetommyrobinsonfreespeec7660]

The most sensible, hilarious, obvious, and to the point discussion I’ve heard for a long time! This is how schools should be, two teachers who can point out facts to children! There’d be so much more harmony in the world!

[@tmrb7600]

Thank you so much for this video! Having two different colored people publicly speaking the truth about how we are all different and all the same is a breath of fresh air at these times.

[@peneloperothe8619]

My husband had a go at someone who said oh your wife is white privileged why did you marry her. His reply was cutting.

[@johnwiles4391]

When I was five-ish and I first heard the term 'colored person', I was insulted at the notion that I wasn't colored because it implied I wasn't complete (not that I put it that way at the time, but I distinctly remember the feeling)!

[@simonmc7875]

The real irony was back then... neither Black or White were considered colours... and they are not today within the color spectrum.

[@floydisnutz8443]

You must have been a strong minded 5 year old. I would get insulted by being told not to eat worms.

[@johnwiles4391]

@@floydisnutz8443 I think "ornery" is a better descriptor! :D

[@MamaMOB]

I always found it odd because I have a lot of colors. My skin isn't white it's a pinkish peachish color, my lips are red, my hair is brown, I was born blonde, my eyes are blue, when it's cold I turn purple or blue, when it's hot I turn red, when I'm bruised I can go anywhere from black and blue to green and yellow. Brown people have brown and darker brown and lighter brown. Some of them have mixed with white people and have a couple of our colors as well. But those colors belonged to us originally. We are the people of color.

[@nataliebutler]

In your child mind it implied you were like a picture that hadn't yet been coloured in?

[@archangel_josh]

I always though 'People of Colour' or abbreviated to 'POC's' was a slur and can't believe that's the appropriate term. It's like saying "African American" or "Chinese American" because the term "American" defaults to a white American. The only true Americans are those who lived there before settlement and even THEY are labelled "Native American". So by default they're being racist by using these terms which, as Zuby said, basically means anyone who isn't white.

[@littlecatfeet9064]

And it’s so close to Coloured People 🤔

[@tristandeleglise3924]

Beside "people of colour" should be attributed to caucasians (=white). How many blonde hair or red hair outside of the caucasians ?How many green eyes or blue eyes outside of the caucasians ?

[@astromigui]

Even "native american" came from somewhere. So it's total non-logical, it's all a question if timeframe

[@astromigui]

Even "native american" came from somewhere. So it's total non-logical, it's all a question if timeframe

[@archangel_josh]

@@tristandeleglise3924 Brilliant points. I've heard the argument that 'white' is all the colours in the spectrum of light therefore 'white people' should be called coloured! It's just more division for people who say they're breaking down barriers. I often wonder if we're going to start having terms for 'people of height' and 'height challenged people'.

[@NotLeftarded1]

It's such a privilege to be hated for things I have not done myself personally.

[@Blackdiamondprod.]

Exactly!

[@Scoots1994]

White people did not spend all that much time at the top of the mountain (predominant race in leadership of the dominant forces in the world) for very long in the history of the world. We talk about the American white guilt over slavery ... it's just a matter of how far back your window is. I have Bolivian heritage, so the indiginous of Bolivia were conquered by Spaniards and the Portuguese, while my Scottish heritage was conquered by Italy, and my German heritage was conquered by Mongols, and my North American indiginous heritage was conquered by Spaniards, Portuguese, Brittish, Irish, German, Scottish, French, pretty much all of Europe. I have light brown skin ... but I'm a mutt ... what do I gain from picking one color of people to hate? Why not try to let it all go and start fresh?

[@ESCAGEDOWOODWORKING]

These people think that they are a race according to color and ancestry. But they've been lied to generationally, and to reject an idea that their ancestors based their world views on, is to admit something painful. The difference with the Spanish world and that of the British back then, is that one group allowed marriage between groups, and counted all as humans, the other not so much. Those things affect people across generations. The race thing in the US was too extreme, by a lot. And people today still have Mothers and Grandmothers that experienced ill treatment. Just like the average bigot today has a right to be ignorant, so too do real Americans have the right to call things as they see fit.

[@Smokey348]

1 thing i'd say is that it wasn't all Europe that conquered north americans

[@Scoots1994]

@@Smokey348 I don't know of any European country that didn't have people in North America pre-USA. The North American indigenous were not mostly conquered in battle but in the creeping occupation by Europeans.

[@ba_2three458]

@@Scoots1994 north American Indians "people of god" are descendents of Chinese and Japanese settlers that migrated that way when there was a land bridge in the Bering Straits. Where does it end. Do we need to trace it back to the cradle of civilization? As we know it thats in North Africa if I'm not mistaken, so in essence we're all African-Americans in the US.

[@Scoots1994]

@@ba_2three458 Indeed ... and it's all white people's fault!

[@Snarge22]

"Women and minorities." Now just who's filtered out here?

[@Femmeaesthetic]

Women aren’t even minorities, idk why they try to align women with minorities, when they say women, they mean “whites women”

[@oz_jones]

Just a cohencidence

[@Snarge22]

Not a chance@@oz_jones. Not when I was hearing it from National Public Radio for years. (I've quite listening to them about four years ago.)

[@chrisdaniels3929]

I see your point. If you take the words literally, then it makes no sense

[@danieljordan8732]

This idea that people who move to a country, by choice, and immediately start complaining about the culture drives me nuts. You made a choice to come here, go back if you dont like it.

[@richardpeach3046]

Most of the cultural rot is driven by internal or global forces, not working class foreigners or immigrants

[@johnbrown4568]

Human beings share 99.9% of the same DNA. If a person focuses on one tenth of one percent of quite superficial features-> That would be a person who is truly a simpleton. NOT diversity but uni-versity…NOT two but rather one 👍

[@AscendingGoogle123]

This is such a stupid argument..we also share like 98% of our genome with Chimpanzees, 85% with a mouse, does that make us the same? It's not awful or hateful to recognize racial differences, it only becomes a problem when you start mistreating others based on them

[@Smokey348]

@@AscendingGoogle123Dude it already became a problem when some weirdos used this 'race' ideology as factual and scientific when in reality it was not and it was to justify their own hatred of anyone they didn't like or found inferior. Also you saying that he made a stupid argument because we share 98% of our genome with chimpanzee, 85% with a mouse is fucking riddiculous. Humans literally are the same, just with some variety (also almost every organism share something with eachother) Just because we share genomes with chimpanzees and mouses but we aren't anything alike specifically a mouse, that doesn't justify bringing or using a racial category for humans. Guess what some social scientist decided to do that after they saw darwins work of categorising animals and plants and were like ''mmh we can do that with humans too'' but that didn't even cause problems like it does now because that idea of race has changed a lot and is so fucking inconsistent and pseudoscientific and just plain stupid

[@fredmercury1314]

@@AscendingGoogle123 Quite a lot with a tomato too.

[@Steven9567]

@@AscendingGoogle123 not really some mistreat is ok depends how much a problem is

[@gilgameshkingofheroes5903]

​@@AscendingGoogle123 I don't think "race" is the correct term though. It's not really a category recognized by science nowadays (as far as modern humans are concerned). Although, your point still stands.

[@baba.mkhulu]

another thought-provoking discussion. the problem is that 'normal', sane, logical, ethical people don't get into politics...because of the 'slime'. so we have the bottom of society rising to the top of politics...running countries & unelected corrupt bodies. like the un, eu, nato, who, wef, ec, etc. oh...& lazy bureaucrats & administrators. what a shame. 🙏🏽

[@travisjazzbo3490]

So true. Decent, caring, moral, civilized people won't go into politics. SO VERY TRUE... A huge reason our country based on a Constitution of amazing ethics is being trashed and our country is being destroyed

[@NormanBrandi]

Always been true, was the reasoning behind having a decentralized "limited government" in the USA's creation. No one is fit to rule over others, and the very best don't want to.

[@NikeaTiber]

About 20 years ago I realized that the people ideally suited to be politicians were all too intelligent to ever want to be politicians.

[@Windowswatcher]

@@NikeaTiber And too moral! They don't want to be corrupted by the institutions of politics as it is now.

[@VertegrezNox]

Stop being statist, you enable it to be this way. If you want change, be willing to change that repetitive cycle of disfunction you been living in.

[@user-yc6pt6wu7o]

Ive tried explaining white culture and how our different ancestry creates different physical features, upbringing, traditions, and the like, but i was abruptly told that it wasn't true, that white is our culture. Can we all just have a sit down in this country and re-introduce ourselves to each other?

[@MrKingkz]

As black brit i can tell for a fact white people have culture and have different features in fact av got quite good at telling what part of europe they come from even if they now live in the states and have become 100% America

[@epgamer1145]

True thumbnail. I bought my white privilege when I was born. It’s been over 20 years and I’ve yet to get it.

[@subtleblow]

Makes me think of a "people of color" remake of Monty Python and The Holy Grail where they're searching for the Holy White Privilege Grail.

[@herknorth8691]

I've met plenty of Mexican immigrants who won't teach their kids Spanish. At first, I thought that was an opportunity lost since knowing a second language is a great thing but now I get it.

[@tashhashimi9483]

Thank you for saying this out loud! I’m Pakistani and I h8 all of you equally 😂😂 nah I love y’all

[@richdemanowski2575]

You make some interesting points. Thank you for sharing. My mother came to this country from Germany in 1953, and always spoke German to me as a child. She also always insisted that I speak English properly. (One of her pet peeves, as a teacher of German, French, and Masterpieces of World Literature was that, before she could teach her college freshmen any German or French, she first had to teach them English.) I didn't speak a word of German (although I understood it perfectly well) until I was 6 years old and we went to visit my grandparents in Germany for the first time. Once I realized that there was a whole country full of people that spoke this weird language my mother was always using, it finally dawned on me that I could speak it, too. Ever since, every time I visit Germany, I have to produce my passport to prove I'm American, because everybody who hears me speak German is completely convinced that I was born and raised in Berlin.

[@AlexIanMartin1]

I love the dynamic between the two of you. "Why can't we be friends?"

[@Femmeaesthetic]

As non white myself I never understood the term “poc” as well, cause all it means is non Caucasian. I mean if you go to countries like Africa or India, can you imagine them using these terms 😅

[@andreavoros-marky4203]

Do you know that the Caucasus region is technicaly not even in Europe or barely is? Its btw the Kaspi and Black see. Countries like Iran, Georgia, part of Türkie etc are there.

[@loris-bismar]

It's just as laughable as the POC squad lumping all "white" people together. The only thing we have in common is a lack of sunlight.

[@Llama_charmer]

Yet the phrase "coloured people" was deemed racist lol, its just been reincarnated and is "politically correct". You cant make it up

[@GSXRANGEL]

The book White Guilt by Shelby Steele dives into this, was a great read!

[@vlndfee6481]

Eugenics= white supremacy came from... by eugenics, by darwin. Like planned parenthood.. do some research... also human zoo Bill gates father was leader in eugenics

[@fredmercury1314]

White supremacy and whiteness are not about race. It's about Communism. Watch the video, it explains it all. WATCH THIS TO UNDERSTAND WHAT'S HAPPENING IN THE UK: >>> Woke: A Culture War Against Europe | James Lindsay at the European Parliament

[@dimoraes0902]

Oh my god! FINALLY SOMEONE MAKING SENSE OF STUFF

[@dustistreet5108]

Thank you! I’ve been saying this since the 5th grade. I’m an artist that sees the different shades of color. There are NO true black or true white skin shades of humans. We are ALL just different beautiful shades of brown.

[@straighttalking2090]

Good points from both Zuby and Carl. Insightful and thought provoking. Thank you.

[@IanMartin-vb3im]

Yes about time someone called out the term people of colour

[@frishter]

I think the framing of privilege being set as a negative is to condition people to not accept better. I think we should strive for MORE privilege for all of us, yet also have a sense of humility and not take things too much for granted.

[@carolynbrubaker1619]

I've always said if you take artificial color names out of the conversation, racism sort of disappears. Except for a few genetic anomalies, there are no white, red, yellow, or black people. We're all various shades of brown (yes even "white" people- we're sort of beige). And the only race we should be worried about is that human race!

[@zxyatiywariii8]

Good point. I have an Irish friend who's extremely light but even she's not white, and a Nigerian friend who's extremely dark but even she's not black.

[@fredmercury1314]

That's definitively non-factual and wholly incorrect. They aren't genetic anomalies, it's literally different DNA. The people of Northern European descent have about 3% Neanderthal DNA, that figure decreases the further South you travel, and by the time you get to Sub Saharan Africa, it's zero. The Asians have the DNA of some other ancestor genome. Caucasian is not just skin colour, it's Caucasian. You can take the "artificial color names" out of the conversation but the genetics are still different, and so is the skin tone, and other things. We have different predication for diseases and genetic conditions, like diabetes. Young Sub Saharan African men have higher testosterone than young Caucasian men, which (surprise surprise) is a fuel for violence in adolescent boys. The reality is that "white" is just slang for Caucasian, and "black" for Sub Saharan African, and "yellow" for Asian. Three different and distinct genetic groups.

[@Maccaboy1984]

I’m a light grey colour, takes about a week of sunbathing to turn white…… (I’m British with N Ireland ancestry)

[@Steven9567]

@@fredmercury1314 even their are differents in the 3 main groups

[@mackchats6520]

And it's that simple, yet it's still the hardest thing for some people to wrap their heads around.

[@bhante1345]

Good on Zuby giving other black creators like Carl a voice.

[@terreneofficial]

LOL I don't know if that was a jab but I laughed hard nonetheless

[@bhante1345]

What are you talking about? It's not a jab, Carl is black.@@terreneofficial

[@MetalMachinist232]

Holy moly... any time I see a conversation with Zuby in it... he makes fantastic points. I love his "non-culturalism" comment, fantastic commentary guys.

[@reedr7142]

You guys are saying what so many people aren’t allowed to, for fear of losing their jobs :/ Subscribed.

[@kalashydra9016]

11:27 when i hear about the story of the babel tower , i think this is what it meant . multiple nations coming together into one country to live together , but because they made no effort to adapt to each other it just all falls apart

[@notbloodylikely4817]

The story of Babel is the story of our time. The people came together so the power in charge divided them by scattering them and giving them different languages. It wasn't the people, it was the nephilim who realised humans would ascend to heaven and be like them. It's about revolution crushed by the elite and that's what identitarianism is, divide and conquer the plebs to keep them in their place.

[@tucoramirez3333]

Also I think it was the city of Jericho and the angels came down and said look at what they have achieved already so god decided to scatter them across the world and make them speak different languages to slow the progress of the human race

[@saraross8396]

​@tucoramirez3333 No, that was the Tower of Babel. Prior to that, the world had just one language. Man had decided to build a tower to heaven. God being displeased with this confused their language so that they could not understand one another, thus giving it the name of Babel which means confusion. This is why there are multiple languages. Jericho was the city the Israelites marched around for seven days, after which the walls fell down.

[@tucoramirez3333]

@@saraross8396 thanks

[@sam_bruns]

Love this yall should do a regular show

[@JamesTudsbury]

Which one would be Mordecai and which one would be Rigby?

[@jasonbeale6875]

What a relief to hear wise words for a change

[@Nigel-wu5lj]

I put myself through education with no help from anyone. I took a bus 45 minutes every day and once asked the driver if i could pay him the next day. No one ever gave this white man a wrapper !

[@paryanindoeur]

I grew up in Pennsylvania, and I can confirm there are a helluva lot of Germans in America! There are still areas where 85% of the surnames are German.

[@oz_jones]

Funnily enough German almost became the official language but then the 1900s happened

[@Individual_Lives_Matter]

POC, as a term, is coalition building. It’s nakedly political.

[@HappyGrannyOf3]

I’m not white.. I’m pinky beige 😂😂😂

[@johnredman2065]

That breakdown of poc , brilliant 👍

[@katnerd6712]

Zuby thinking of getting a studio now I think. He looks really at home in that nice studio :)

[@cursedcancersurvivor]

I remember seeing an art diagram for drawing skin color...and white was labeled as "generic".

[@domhealy9816]

Going to primary school in Catford London in the 70ts. None of us gave a shit what colour we all were. We were all completely equal

[@pauldunn9502]

Zuby is great and always on it. Enjoyed his contribution on GB News too. Thanks sir

[@Shahrdad]

People have always made their own little colonies. We have Chinatown, Japan town, Korea town, little Italy, Greek town, etc etc etc. But ultimately, you must integrate. You must learn the language and mold yourself to be a productive and contributing member of your new country and fully respect their laws and traditions. Otherwise you have chaos.

[@cincoy3679]

Tell that to Africa.

[@shawnii7181]

Dead people: Why do they keep appropriating our skin tone?! Shades of light: At least we still have Gray!

[@perryrush6563]

50 shades of it

[@DJRazorgirl826]

Multiple times I've been handed a form that asks me my race. I always write, "human." Because that's my race. My species.

[@MonteroOnBoxing]

GREAT discussion. Two very, very intelligent men crushing this topic.

[@verticalvidz1895]

@Zuby...love the jacket. If you don't mind me asking, where did you get it? Ty

[@Gringosaurus]

Somebody explain this to me because it really pisses me off, how does Zuby not have 5 million subscribers?

[@kylemenos]

horizontal racism.

[@justasimpleguy7211]

The algorithm. It disfavors his politics.

[@fabricekalume581]

it is simple. Majority of black people do not want to hear the types of messages, he is preaching. When a black person starts thinking for himself, he is automatically labelled as sellout.

[@justasimpleguy7211]

@@fabricekalume581 Are you implying only black people listen to Zube? There's a word for that type of thinking and it begins with an 'r', ends with a 't' and they bookend 'acis'.

[@nidoqu33n]

Just coming across this video, it seems like his opinions are short sighted and don’t involve a rounded version of history. We do need to change our language but until the poor stand up against these types of people what they are talking about will still continue.

[@mkrool]

literally anytime someone has called me white i reply with "im not white im welsh"

[@jamestuckley3810]

My friend Ken always had the best answer to people of colour. He would say "is white not a colour?" Now i know some may argue is a shade not specifically a colour but the sentence always amused me.

[@Stella21277]

I am not better than anyone of a different colour I am white and tons of different colour people have better jobs and better lives than me

[@Goganzuela]

Everyone is on a spectrum of brown from almost white to almost black while still being the same original color just different shades.

[@samweller2099]

Damn. Subscribed. How have I not heard this dude before?!!

[@joeszymanski3540]

I really appreciate Zuby calling out this hypocrisy from the very beginning.

[@studiorelaxingmusic721]

What a breath of fresh air, I can’t see how anyone can disagree with this but I’m sure there are people out there that do

[@dtybur10]

People disagree with truth all the time. Whatever you believe, that's the truth. Even of it is not. That's why we have objectivity. It's totally free, and anyone can deploy it, at any time! However, it seems that it has been priced out of reach for most. Must be a black market for the sale of objectivity that I'm unaware of.?😊

[@irregularmagazine]

I've travelled and lived in several countries around the world and only in the West is racism and indenity politics such a massive issue. Go to most Asian countries and they don't have these hang ups. That's not to say there aren't racist individuals living there but they don't have the same issues the West has around these particular problems.

[@mtns7036]

I went to paint my walls white, there were about 30 different shades to choose from. White is definitely a colour

[@Adam-re1ph]

Great talk. I liked terms non culturism and reverse colonialism.

[@MrPercy112]

Don’t destroy ‘white privilege’ I’m hoping to get some; I’ve been waiting a bloody long time for it!

[@marcinswoboda7993]

"Person of color", as strange as it sounds is as valid label as Jewish "goyim", Japanese "gaijin", Sudanes "hauaga", Goralski (Polish Tatra Highlanders) "Ceper" or Polish/Slavic "Niemiec". People across the globe from different cultures tend to label all other as a one group.

[@Larry-Livermore]

You would think the press would be more grateful towards the Americans and English, after all, we were the ones who gave you the 'Promised Land'.

[@stephenarmand3981]

I love Zuby podcast!

[@CrusterfunkShenanigans]

very interesting conversation. thank you. Greetings from the Netherlands.

[@BobbyHiII]

They think we’re better than them. 🙃

[@ryanmullins2103]

We need to see more of this! Different looking people coming together!

[@jennyj0007]

Do they have creole? That's mine. Plus, loving this conversation. It's so true.

[@noidreculse8906]

My White Privilege taught me how to be polite to a police officer. My White Privilege worked against me when I applied for a small business loan.

[@berniefynn6623]

BRITAIN IS MY COUNTRY, OF COURSE I SHOULD HAVE PRIVILEGE OVER THOSE WHO ARE NOT OF US, THEY CHOOSE TO COME HERE,THEY GET WHAT I SAY THEY CAN HAVE.

[@matthewbellis0]

STOP THAT NOW. FOLLOWING LOGIC DOESN'T WORK HERE 👊 DIVERSITY IS OUR STRENGTH 👊 CLAP FOR THE CLAP 👊

[@kieronchick1663]

Are you some type of authority in Britain. I am guessing not, people who actually have authority tend not to express such small minded opinions.

[@berniefynn6623]

@@kieronchick1663 you English???? I AM

[@mikelizard3730]

Zuby is my absolute favourite female weight-lifter

[@kojirosasaki8129]

Thanks!

[@myst2536]

Its done on purpose to have us fighting against each other! Great video

[@davegl1236]

It is the same with LGBTQIA+. What it means is none heterosexual. There is very little in common between the LG , B certainly Q and I , A is definitely an odd one in this group and + is like etc, etc, etc...

[@zxyatiywariii8]

And T isn't a sexual orientation.

[@suzannemcvicker617]

And Q is a slur

[@aaronholcomb237]

Transgender has no interest in homosexuality and gays have no interest in being transgender.

[@Steven9567]

@@suzannemcvicker617 actually q means strange its not a slur

[@suzannemcvicker617]

@@Steven9567 calling them 'strange' is also not good.

[@dr.moxley554]

im a supreme person

[@mikepaulus4766]

Diana Ross? Mary Wilson? 😂

[@dscythegx0254]

Great conversation

[@sssyntax]

So many smart people talking sense now. Awesome!

[@henrig8708]

The term 'coloured' was made by western white people. Because they thought of themselves as the default once upon a time. It also seems that it made its way through into other languages, however, it is not a common way of describing people in languages other than English. Its important to look at social understanding through a global perspective and see perhaps where such ideologies come from and perhaps why.

[@kravan5063]

Yeah, so instead of moving away from that sort of thinking. Some people are instead trying to keep that type of thinking around but mould it the other way around as some sort of revenge/retribution act

[@kylemenos]

@@kravan5063 We have science to back this one that the origins of man are indeed all from Africa but whether or not we were black or white at the time is completely unknown and will never be known we could have been blue or transparent so red/purple. Just goes to show how stupid people are that you have to immediately think oh Africa so black. Like what would you think? were all black and lost melanin or we were all some Axolotl transparent thing and Africans developed melanin over time to deal with the heat. I'm guess both is true but if that was true we were pale then black and travelled north and lost it. How did we just not die from lack of vitamin D in the mean time? It's like the chicken and the egg.

[@henrig8708]

@@kravan5063 That's also true, but I think we can't go about it with a 'Get over it' mentality either. Often revenge comes from unhealed situations, while many bad racial attitudes may not be as big of a problem anymore, historically there was very little done for 'healing'. That is something that needs to be done by both white and black people for themselves and each other. Especially in the domain of stereotyping, expressing gratitude for each culture, interpersonal and group communication, and perhaps a greater understanding of each other's backgrounds

[@kravan5063]

@@henrig8708 When I say get over it, I'm saying we remember the past of course but we don't need to use the past to shape everything about our current day. It's an unhealthy obsession and prevents actual progress being made, instead keeping us tethered to a bygone time period. It's more ridiculous when you factor in all the other types of similar things that have happened throughout history and still occur today that get zero attention. Those individual people who didn't even experience it who are affected by the past do need to actually get over it.

[@henrig8708]

@@kravan5063 I agree with most of what you said I think besides one point. I have a feeling it was a typo, but you said, those that are affected by the past need to get over it. That's like me saying to Jewish people get over the holocaust, or the Irish, get over the famine. without considering the reasons why they talk about it, which is so it doesn't happen again, even shaped in other forms. Therefor, I don't think affected people should just get over it. equally, like you said, many people have an unhealthy obsession, unfortunately. I understand your points and I think that we are mostly saying the same thing which small disagreements and differences, we should all move towards a healthier light, away from victimhood and some complexes, providing solutions for everyone and shedding light on bigger problems

[@BBanzaj]

everyone who is not white? i mean, non european, non caucasian, global nordling maybe? but that includes the eskimos and maybe even asians in russia...

[@Johnconno]

I recently filled out a non disclosure agreement, there was no category for White Liverpudlian. I feel oppressed.

[@MortSalazar]

Zuby looks like he's out of patience for it all since it began. And i relate.