RTX 4090 - Indiana Jones and the Path Tracing Experience!

[@ggxsky4811]

Nvidia be preparing for ptx sereis

[@imretix8081]

this is crazy because just today, i was thinking what if AMD out-did Nvidia by adding "PT" cores. i don't even know if it possible. lol

[@miguelangel2761]

Something like "PT Cores" simply does not exist, PT is a heavier and more perfect light transport technique than RT but it is basically the same, digital photons, AMD could run PT fluidly with RDNA 4 but it is impossible for it to surpass the 4th Gen RT that Blackwell has when NVIDIA presents them.​@@imretix8081

[@GameRTmaster]

Ptx 5070 will be the sweet spot for all gamers

[@louaygg7444]

What is pt cores ? ​@@imretix8081

[@koroda765]

I don't like how PTX sounds, RTX, GTX and even GT sound better

[@TheGRW]

Do you have 4090 ? No Did you watch all of the video yes

[@AndreFreitas91250]

At least its good to know how this game will look on my future RTX 7060 in 2029 (unless NVIDIA keeps using 8gb until then) 😅

[@BlackParade01]

I have one! But I don't play on it :( I've genuinely spent more time watching videos about it than actually using it

[@Chuck15]

@@AndreFreitas91250 u really think an rtx 760 will be like a 4090? 🤑

[@dallesamllhals9161]

..nope...What a waste! Team Green nowadays i mean, of course...

[@Pseudo_Placebo]

No No

[@thatguy3000]

Taking almost 20 GB VRAM is insane. The memory optimization needs to happen.

[@KamWysz]

I do actually think that the 5090 will need 32gb for future games for that reason and it is concerning to see.

[@imtrash2812]

why dont u try it urself =))) u talk like it's nothing =)))) go help them, they really need ur help, ur talent =)))

[@gorillagroddgaming]

@@imtrash2812 Lol at white knighting for a AAA game studio

[@erenyaeger7662]

it's full PT at 4k native resolution dude

[@wearyolive76]

@@imtrash2812you have the stupid?

[@TheNerd]

HDR boosts this Game 100 times more than Raytracing can. The HDR implementation of this game is absolutely insane.

[@RAMPED]

Yeah, insanely broken! HDR breaks Frame Gen which is a shame

[@AD34534]

For anyone reading this you need a TV that can properly display HDR if you want to actually see the difference. Most sub $1k TVs are pretty terrible in this regard.

[@oropher1234]

@@RAMPED It does that too in Hogwarts Legacy, Silent Hill 2 and of course Jedi Survivor. Can't use framegen with HDR in those games.

[@RAMPED]

@@oropher1234 God damn it, I wanted to use framegen on SH2...

[@derekmcculloch3269]

Anyone else have the issue where framegen doesn't affect fps?

[@samuki1992]

I remeber when devs made soft sun shadows without the need to use RT, that shadow quality without RT is unacceptable for a 2024 game.

[@DragonOfTheMortalKombat]

not just that but LOD as well. Although I don't like the character models also, too soft and low on detail.

[@houdini329]

Yea, the shadows are pretty terrible in this game. Lod and pop in as well. At least it guns great on lower end hardware, but there should be options to adjust that stuff.

[@drunkard_empire]

I was just making comments about this very thing in my discord the other day. If anything, graphics are getting worse and these techs are being used as crutches and easy buttons over a game being developed and optimized properly. Don't even get me started on Frame Gen. They are fake and a post process, nothing but latency and you cannot receive or send an input during one!

[@beniyov]

at 3:55 it is not shadowpopping but the tree model changes and the pathracing adapts to the new model :D

[@MrBaKalu]

funny he don't see that xD

[@Fadexz]

was mentioned at 4:52 and 5:34

[@JesManVP]

Yep that tree is glitches

[@brunocerny]

You can change the lod In the console settings. Google it

[@danygilbert6733]

Yeah it's a simple LOD drop. Not a shadow popping.

[@KiloTensa]

It's me or you deleted this video and re-uploaded it?

[@KiloTensa]

Great video btw (i haven't seen it)

[@zWORMzGaming]

Yup, the settings on the top right were messed up

[@Mateo_Ioan]

Exactly what I was about to say, I started watching it, and then it just disappeared😂

[@SoyXmirzioo05]

​@@zWORMzGaming So It wasnt me! I found the video 2 hours ago but i coundnt comment

[@samuki1992]

Need to lose 40 fps to fix low quality shadows in a 2024 game

[@chrisking6695]

But I’ve been reading so many say the game is so well optimized 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂 Gamers in 2024 Game runs well = game is well optimized Game is resource hungry = poorly optimized.

[@nightshadow5328]

marketing

[@Rachit0904]

yeah the rasterised shadows are very poorly implemented. Even the reflections.. you shouldn't need path tracing to make cobblestones shiny.

[@Reitaliation]

​@@Rachit0904you can easily make cobblestone shiny with old god cubemaps

[@Deliveredmean42]

They could give you a distance slider for the shadows, but yep, that's Path Tracing for ya, it is expensive.

[@cezz1105]

As much as the 4090 cost. It should never drop below 60fps in any game!

[@mastersboom3723]

4090 will be limited on vram in 2 years if all devs are that bad....

[@IdeI2StOnEd]

4090 owners will dry their tears with bills

[@marlon.8051]

4090 owners will buy the next nvidia gpu no matter how bad the gpu gets or optimization anyway

[@mastersboom3723]

@@marlon.8051yes I get that, but this is not the right place where gaming is going these days, better hardware equals lazy devs unfortunately, it wasn’t like that 5 years ago

[@currywurst2434]

When playing with pathtracing in 4k perhaps, but you could still use DLSS and a bit lower resolution so its a luxus problem for 4090 users. Most of them will sell their GPU and buy a newer model either way.

[@cxngo8124]

So at PT set to medium 4k, it uses more than 16gb vram. So if the leaks are true and 5080 has 16gb vram, it will suffer here even though it should be faster than 4090 😭 I really hope Nvidia wont be greedy and put more VRAM on that card.

[@igm1571]

Even with DLSS Quality sometime it jump more than 16gb.

[@brunocerny]

Also you dont have to setup every game to ultra or supreme like its here. It wont take 20gb. Most times there is no difference to high /very high settings.

[@brunocerny]

Df did a video and the most performance killer was the vram size, so putting the texture quality down is the way

[@chrisking6695]

Xx80 cards are supposed to be for 1440p. My 4080 gets 90-100 fps with full ray tracing on supreme in 1440p with DLSSQ and FG. It’s a little softer than 4k hence why I play it in 4k. You want 4k with full PT you gotta shell out the money for a 5090. That’s the way it’s gonna go. We better stop whining. It won’t change.

[@cxngo8124]

@@chrisking6695 my guy. The 5080 will be faster than the 4090. Unless you are saying 4090 should not be for 4k

[@Deliveredmean42]

Folks needs to realize that heavily optimized games do exist and need to realize that current hardware aren't there yet to run Path Tracing Natively without upscaling. Altho this game should probably provide at least a little distance slider for the shadow cascade on regular RT mode so its not tooo jarring, as well as the LOD distance. It is possible in the ini file, just need to add it natively in the game menu.

[@TarkasBane]

Well the maniacs at id isn't lending out their Tech 7 engine out to everyone, so we have to make do with Unreal or Unity.

[@tingasytb]

they probably ment the PT stuff for the 5090 💀💀

[@Horseyh]

PT stands for Path Tracing

[@bwellington3001]

it's ok with 4090 with DLSS

[@tingasytb]

@Horseyh NO WAY ARE YOU SERIOUS I DIDNT KNOW

[@Horseyh]

@tingasytb crazy

[@mikeramos91]

Interesting that a 4090 has been a beast in every other game & all of sudden we need a 5090 now 2 months before release. They have to push sales somehow 🤷🏻‍♂️

[@frankbgaming]

A lot of screen tearing

[@hugogrilo9742]

🤫shhhh the shadow popping is the issue, makes the game unplayable 😆/s

[@tyleraasen9426]

Damn just noticed your over half a million subs now fantastic job! Been around since 40k

[@zWORMzGaming]

Thanks mate!! Long time, thanks for sticking by! 😃

[@mikeramos91]

The RTX 4090 is still a beast of a card in every other game. Looks like they gotta start pushing the sales of the 5090 now 🤷🏻‍♂️

[@Deliveredmean42]

If it works for Cyberpunk 2077, it will work again in here. Besides, you still rely on upscaling on a 4090 with path traced based games. It was never cheap to run it.

[@mikeramos91]

@ the difference is cyberpunk 2077 looks way better & much less vram

[@Deliveredmean42]

@@mikeramos91 That depends really. Cyberpunk implementation works best since its a futuristic game and its an open world title, tho modders definitely push it further. Altho the VRam Consumption for both if both run at 4k and full Path Tracing the difference in Vram may not be too much different in the end, unless of course the amount of rays being cast on the scene is different between the two (and if both use a lot of 4k textures in everything). Tho that is pretty technical at this point.

[@jasonprendergast7493]

@@Deliveredmean42not a chance. I hate upscaling. Why I bought a 4090 I’m getting 35-45 FPS with the odd 24FPS in the really really demanding areas. Maxed out 4K, DLAA with path tracing. More than playable and literally looks like real life this game. 4090 is a beast. But I can’t wait for the 5090 now.

[@Deliveredmean42]

@@jasonprendergast7493 You bought it with what current "consumer" cards are capable of, and they aren't ready yet for Full on Path Tracing without upscaling at 4k but its gotten close with the 4090. We just got Regular RT to run well on current systems, Path Tracing is going to be another hurdle to overcome for future hardware. I believe Both Cyberpunk and Indiana Johnes stating Path Tracing is for future hardware in mind. So who knows two generation down the line Path Tracing will be available for mid range PCs!

[@club4ghz]

Nvidia is now priming the sheep for $2500 5090. They could at least choose better game than this.

[@imretix8081]

LOL Nvidia locked us out of Path tracing settings ("because of VRAM limitations"), and at the same time they also limit us on VRAM on their GPUs. SAD EDIT: also is Path tracing is meant to be realistic, making the shadows softer like real life? what's funny is by just putting the shadows on low makes shadows look softer and makes pop-in less noticeable, just like PT.

[@robertkorth2911]

But there not path traced. So why would u do that?

[@imretix8081]

@@robertkorth2911 to make the pop-in less noticeable, because instead of going from super sharp to super blurry in one render line, putting shadows on low makes the pop-in less noticeable by having shadows already blurry, just like PT.

[@sinephase]

4:45 - you can see it's because of the tree model popping in detail, not a shadow issue per se

[@eliann124]

you can fix the LOD with Console commands, default is 1 and max is 5... maybe there is a bug that makes imposible to actually change that setting ?

[@JustThePR]

You need to go inside buildings with the display cases to see the RT Reflections. It doesn't do much outdoors.

[@mine2craft2015]

I'm definitely gonna try running this at max on my 4080 super at 1080p

[@ramborambokitchenkitchen6357]

You might even need to add dlss on top of that to keep the vram from spilling over too much. Which is ridiculous as I know for a fact the 4080 super could run this mode rather well. Man AMD did the right thing by giving their high end cards 20/24gb.

[@mine2craft2015]

​@ramborambokitchenkitchen6357 yeah probably but it's always worth the try

[@ramborambokitchenkitchen6357]

@@mine2craft2015 I tried it on my 4070ti at 1440p and it is playable with path tracing as long as the texture cache is knocked way down.

[@paulmers9112]

2000 for dlss performance!!!!Thanks Nvidia!I will keep my 7900xt(630 new)

[@pneumonoultramicroscopicsi4065]

As if your 7900xt can play this game on path tracing

[@AzureLow]

@@pneumonoultramicroscopicsi4065 crazy because path tracing is still a gimmick and will be for atleast another 3 years minimum

[@kenshinhimura6280]

@@pneumonoultramicroscopicsi4065 Bro, even Kryzzp couldn't notice a decent path traced reflection 🤣

[@houdini329]

Chill out this is future tech. We don't even use ray tracing to the full extent and likely won't be for a couple of years.

[@Ihgfcjuytfcvvh]

How dare my notifications delay my zWormz videos 😡😡

[@MichaeltheORIGINAL1]

People act surprised about the 20 gigs of Vram consumption, meanwhile modding games at 4K like Cyberpunk with PT/max. settings, Skyrim with 3500+ Mods, GTA 5 and Stalker 2 (vastly enhancing visuals) utilize close to 20GB or in some cases, like Cyberpunk 2077 with a lot off visual enhancement mods, more than 20GB of Vram on my 4090. It's a shame Nvidia skimps out on Vram unless you buy their 90 class product.

[@MoistMoments]

What game did you like the most? Did the graphics matter?

[@MichaeltheORIGINAL1]

@@MoistMoments For me, graphics are an integral part of the gaming experience. That is the whole reason I bought the 4090 in the first place, to have the best visual experience possible. I couldn't care less about high refresh rate, 50-70fps on my controller with drop-dead gorgeous graphics is fine to me. Well, I have close to 190 games on PC, so it's hard to say which one I find the best, there are many I like. Cyberpunk 2077 after patch 2.0 and the Phantom Liberty DLC + mods, has been and still is a game I almost play daily. It's insane how CP2077 evolved over the years. Currently, I also have tons of fun with modded Stalker 2 and of course Skyrim ultra modded will always have a place in my heart, hehe.

[@slaydog5102]

caring about graphics over gameplay is peak smooth brain material , thanks for the laugh 😂

[@MichaeltheORIGINAL1]

@@slaydog5102 Never did I say I find graphics more important than the gameplay. I said I find graphics very important, but if the gameplay sucks, I don't care much about how good it looks. But keep strawmaning and putting words in peoples mouth they never said. Very high IQ move.

[@NaokiWatanabe]

The shadow draw distance is the same with RT vs PT. The difference you're seeing is just because the RT shadows are soft making the pop in less noticeable. If you want to change the draw distance it's an ini file setting (r_lodscale).

[@salted6422]

GPU guzzling 430 watts is crazy.

[@TheNamelessOne12357]

Yep. Even those old dual-GPU monsters ate no more than 300W.

[@rbk9582]

@@TheNamelessOne12357 what about dual gtx580

[@Tectosaurus]

You can PL the 4090 to 80%. Mine pulls 360W max and the performance difference is roughly 2-5 FPS. Stays very cool too.

[@ramborambokitchenkitchen6357]

Good thing these cards under volt extremely well. Got my 4070ti down from 285w to 200w and in 3d mark I only lost 3% performance, which I clawed back by overclocking the vram a little bit. The cars runs 10c cooler than stock while never really spinning the fans above 35%.

[@JamesSmith-sw3nk]

Good video. The 4090's 4k Supreme/PT High fps is why the 5090 will sell well.

[@TheDokoBG]

Moral of the Story - DO NOT BUY 4K display... Get yourself a nice 1440p monitor and enjoy decent FPS on highest settings.

[@mascot4950]

Completely agree. There is a bit of an issue with everything going 4K these days though. I've been looking to upgrade to an HDR monitor and the largest online store in the country has exactly 1 monitor that's 1440p with HDR and GSYNC. It's making me a bit anxious, but I'll have to wait a bit longer to pick one up as I just spent way too much on an OLED tv and some other expensive toys. Hopefully they'll still exist when I do.

[@Dionyzos]

4K DLSS Performance looks better than 1440p DLSS Quality with similar Performance and the same is true for 4K DLSS Quality vs 1440p native. So the actual resolution of your monitor has become almost irrelevant for games. Therefore simply buy what you can afford.

[@wretchedslippage3255]

This game is incredible. Such a great story, great gameplay. Great performance to be honest. Path Tracing ISNT supposed to be an easy thing to run.

[@Diegopie115]

Crazy how many babies are crying about this game. Dial in your settings and it looks great, even at 8 GB of VRAM. I ran it this morning on high settings, high pathtracing, with balanced DLSS on a 4070 Ti Super at 60 - 100 FPS At 1440p ultra wide Im CPU limited

[@denzylRTX]

Was waiting for this 😄

[@Val-ye6nv]

Nice video! Will you try PT on the 4060ti?

[@KamWysz]

not even worth it lol it has 8gb

[@Stardomplay]

Nope it has 16gb ​@@KamWysz

[@Val-ye6nv]

@@KamWysz it's not even enable, it only shows in cards with vram above 12gb, what a joke

[@yokingboii]

@@KamWysz There's an 8gb and 16gb version of the card

[@cosmic_gate476]

@@Val-ye6nv It shows up for my 12 GB 4070 Ti, however I had to reduce the texture pool to High (other settings still max) for full PT to not crash instantly. With this setting, DLSS Balanced works fine at 3440x1440, but it's already scraping at 12 GB. The 16 GB 4060 Ti should do really well at 1080p if you have that one.

[@Jakiyyyyy]

Do not update! This patch will give you 15 fps less than the prelaunch version! Proceed with caution! 🤬

[@Stardomplay]

Girl upgrade yo laptop.

[@gorillagroddgaming]

@@Stardomplayit’s a guy

[@Stardomplay]

@gorillagroddgaming how you know?

[@kanekigames4132]

​@@StardomplayWe are all men until proven otherwise.

[@tvcultural68]

Source?

[@oropher1234]

almost 20 GB VRAM allocated haha I am using 4kDLSSperformance with PT max and Texture pool at Ultra instead of supreme. Locking the game at 50 fps for a smooth experience. Still though, enabling framegen makes me go over the VRAM limit and in this game that can even cause crashing if you go far enough. native 4k on my 4080 caused the game to instantly crash when PT was enabled.

[@chrisking6695]

I don’t use PT. I see no difference really. I took screenshots and the differences are so subtle they’re not worth the performance hit. I’m on a 4080s. I use DLAA + FG on supreme in 4k. I get up to 110-120 fps sometimes a bit more. The sharp picture beats the PT effects.

[@oropher1234]

@@chrisking6695 Strong disagreement.

[@leeroyjenkins0]

I don't think high RAM usage is necessarily a bad thing. It just means the software is taking advantage of your hardware. The issue is if it can't run on less RAM.

[@TarkasBane]

What I'm taking from this is that modern graphics improvements are so minimal that buying a high-end graphics card is a waste of money.

[@abigweed1811]

20:24 "Ohh, we're destroying our 4090 now" (unironically) That's a thing I thought wasn't possible for at least another year..

[@VASILISPAGOURAS7]

Alan wake 2 already did

[@abigweed1811]

@VASILISPAGOURAS7 ah yeah, correct

[@leeroyjenkins0]

Until you can make blender render at 140fps there will always be a way to make a GPU suffer. Question is whether you actually care about it looking like a blender render.

[@Odder-Being]

He got screen tearing every other 2 seconds. I couldn't live with that.

[@toma992]

They are just forcing you to use RT for no reason. When there's a ton of games that look similar or even better without any RT. Developers are leaning on new technologies a bit too much these days.

[@oropher1234]

Nobody is going to work harder than necessary, so get used to it.

[@omargallo9636]

@@oropher1234 excatly espcially now when game needs 10x more work and less than 10% luck to be succeeded like old times . what people know is that games golden age had gone and no one love games will enter the game industry in this miserable situation

[@PinnuskaTV]

@@oropher1234 Ye and you keep playing these new unoptimized games that even struggles on high end GPUs

[@MichaeltheORIGINAL1]

Indiana Jones and the Great Circle with supreme settings and 4K with full Pathtracing looks out of this world. Similar to how CP2077 looks with full PT and visual mods. Stop the cope. High settings don't always look like max. settings, especially if PT is involved.

[@oropher1234]

@leeroyjenkins0 it works fine on a 2060 8gb so idk what you mean

[@AninoNiKugi]

I'm still in the opinion that games don't need to be realistic, they just need to look or seem realistic. To me what's more important are the animations and the interactivity of the environment. Look at this game, realistic lighting and yet you see a lot of popping in 😅

[@Seimar12]

Screen tearing is completely ruining the experience. Do you have v-sync and g-sync (if you have) enabled in NVIDIA control panel?

[@Fr3akyFrapz]

that 1 tree lods are def not meant to be that low must be a mistake XD

[@zWORMzGaming]

It happens with all of the trees in the city as well 😭

[@Fr3akyFrapz]

@@zWORMzGaming darn thats not good 😥

[@manmathgodre5360]

This game is the successor of crysis

[@GGBGameplays]

It's weird they call it Path Tracing and allow you to enable/disable effects. The Path Tracing is what we call full Ray Tracing effects. When you enable Path Tracing on CP 2077 is full Ray Tracing.

[@toribarron5700]

It is hard to call anything but full path tracing, “Path tracing.” But even when off, Indiana Jones uses ray tracing. No other option. Wow, full PT looks great on this.

[@jasperstoj]

Please show more of the city as well in these path tracing ones as it looks awesome. I’m keen for the 4070 super as that’s what I’m running now 😃 Also hopefully the developers are watching this and fix in the shadow pop in and LOD issues

[@angelozurlo3179]

I saw in the digital foundry video that it’s possible to manually increase the lod settings in the config files

[@shadow24754]

love watching this video on 480p its beautiful

[@denvernaicker8250]

Just go outside and look at some plants, you don't need a 4090 to render plants

[@leeroyjenkins0]

Game companies are now very comfortable with the idea you can ship a tech demo and make money

[@pliat]

Just go outside into the jungle. Just go to 1936. Just turn into Indiana jones.

[@snipercat9609]

This might be a bigger benchmark than Cyberpunk 2077

[@etienne1062]

Alex from DF showed the engine variable you can adjust to mitigate the LOD pop in. It degrades perf and increase memory usage. You should try it, on a 4090 it shouldn't be muche of a problem.

[@KungFuIsland]

400 watts...aight. I guess if your heater ever breaks, you're set. If this continues, I feel like high end SFF PCs with desktop parts aren't going to be a thing. I know that there are architecture improvements, but brute forcing more compute power w/ more energy consumption and higher msrp/unit is not a good trend.

[@TheNamelessOne12357]

So full path tracing is completely available in realtime! Now we can add other long awaited features to new games.What about full soft body, cloth and liquid physics?... Or, at least, better AI-powered NPCs which can conversate with player... Shall we?(c) Of course not, just another daydreaming that never come to life.

[@voz888xt]

4:01 it's because not of path tracing, its the tree's texture popping up 😂 Path tracing is realtime lighting producing fully realtime shadows, so even if a tree pops up, it will produce shadow of it ....

[@user-tq8qr2jm1n]

To fix tree pop in etc: Hit tilde key (~) to open console and type r_lodscale 8 Or put this in config file

[@tucci06]

How are you gonna make a game this beautiful and then do this with the LoD? 23:41

[@christophermullins7163]

Devs did a lot of work to make this game run as good as possible. It will be patched out soon for sure.

[@tucci06]

@@christophermullins7163 I don't think I've ever seen an LoD pop-in issue patched out, at least not entirely. Even in Cyberpunk, you can get mods to help, but if you go too far, they break the game.

[@advil000]

This game does not look any better than Shadow of the Tomb Raider but requires a $1600 video card to do the same things. I'm all in for path tracing / ray tracing but not if it costs twice as much to accomplish the same stuff. This is a downgrade. Not an upgrade. Turn on RT or you get shadow pop? Come on.

[@JuanBarretoC]

The Shadow Popping in 4:49 looks like to be due the LOD change. I'm no expert, but in games we have the level of detail, which is based on distance. We can notice that once you walk close to the object (tree) the object changes to a higher detail version. Then, the shadow follows that. LODs are important to the game performance, but you need to 'mask' their change. You can set how many LOD levels you need to the game (more versions, more storage, more files). Hope that gets fixed!

[@lellollo]

no way 34 seconds after you posted this video I clicked it D:

[@ChiBrianXIII]

Who gives af man

[@lvcc11]

Man, I really tried but can't really stop noticing your slight portuguese accent. Jokes aside, you have a great pronounciation and proficiency and make super useful and good content, keep on with the amazing work!

[@maxvorobyev9596]

Thats why i prefer 2k with 4090. Very fast and visually good

[@friedrichvillegasmurillo9775]

I think we got use to see mirror reflexitions on every surface with RT ON, but i can tell you those reflexions are more close to reality

[@AMGameGoesOn]

Again? Reupload?

[@zWORMzGaming]

The settings on the top right were messed up, it was only uploaded for like 10 seconds 😅

[@TriPBOOMER]

KrizzP I know it sounds daft but when you have RT shadows & reflections you can turn original shadow settings to low and original reflections off, not sure it does a lot but I'm getting 50+ most of the time with both RT reflections and shadows with a 3060 @ 1440p DLSS balanced, she is trying! 😂😂 Okay.... I went back to the jungle and was getting 30's with drops into the 20's! 😂🤣🤣

[@adlibconstitution1609]

This game looks very beatiful on Full RT. If I am rich then i would 100% get a 4090 over ANY card and enjoy premium RT experience. For me this is worth it. I am 100% sure the 7900xtx is nowhere close to this performance and the 4080 will have vram issues at 4k. 4090 However is fast enough and has enough vram.

[@igm1571]

2K gaming is also a dream for everyone, too bad these entire mid-range cards cant handle this.

[@stefannita3439]

@@igm1571 1080p is 2k for the same reason that 2160p is 4k

[@Sweetguy1821]

This is why im getting a 5090 for my next build. The only card that looks like an upgrade over the previous gen.

[@Arctic_Glory01]

Are u having screen tearing? or is it my monitor's issue, because I can see whenever u move the camera a tearing wave goes from bottom to top!!

[@einfachfabi989]

Can it run Indiana Jones? Maybe

[@ymiround]

How is this powerhouse of a card on a full load running 54 degrees? Amazing

[@zWORMzGaming]

Strix cooler is amazing 🙂

[@dgralnik]

I'm only seeing 77-80 fps with dlss quality on with the same settings as you on my 4090. I'm on a 9800x3D and it's never peaking on either the GPU or CPU. I'm confused...

[@1stRanger]

3:57 It's not shadows popping. If you look carefully it's actually tree mesh shimmering and so does the shadow naturally.

[@flakmonkey6796]

Zwormz do you ever update amd chipset drivers ? Did you ever find a difference in games in terms of bugs or stutter ? I heard that new bios requires new drivers.

[@BasePuma4007]

This section of the game is one of the least demanding areas. I was getting 80-90 or so FPS with my 3060 at 1440p with high settings (DLSS quality), then I was dropping below 50 in certain areas of the Vatican and Giza. You need to do these tests in the wide-open sections where both the GPU and CPU get stressed more, rather than the first two minutes of the game.

[@tajintajun8718]

7900xtx next please i want see that sweet 5 fps

[@club4ghz]

AMD cards are banned from running it. Probably due to the explosion hazard.

[@ramborambokitchenkitchen6357]

There are no upscaling options available for amd cards so that’s probably why they’ve not allowed amd cards to turn on path tracing.

[@tajintajun8718]

@@ramborambokitchenkitchen6357 even if there was a fsr it woud still run very poorly even with frame gen

[@matemich01]

​@@ramborambokitchenkitchen6357 The only reason is that the devs made a deal with nvidia. The game runs great on my 6700 xt and I would love to check out path tracing even if it dropped to 5fps, at least it would be an option. It's not like 4060 is a better gpu but it has the option.

[@ramborambokitchenkitchen6357]

@@matemich01 nothing below the 4070 can handle it. My 4070ti even struggles unless I put texture cache down and use dlss balanced 😂, I can get over 60fps with path tracing but it seems pointless as the standard mode still looks great and I can get 130fps using that. I guess the option will be added in a patch at some point for amd users.

[@Joshy_Poo]

I got a question that needs to be answered because I haven’t touched the game: Do the textures look vastly different, relatively the same, or practically identical to each other at each setting? Also, what is the maximum texture setting where they start to not look different or noticeable when going past that setting?

[@Wobler2000]

Hey man, just wondering but why is standard core clock so low? mine runs at 2870 :x

[@savagesff9661]

Bro uploads faster than my internet

[@GuidoImbimboRockman]

Ma scusate, come si fa a giocare ad un gioco del genere se è così dettagliato e così vicino al fotorealismo? Cioè probabilmente passerei ore a guardarmi intorno. Come fate a giocarlo in velocità soprattutto?

[@giulianopadulamuse411]

Is Path Tracing available in the RTX 3060 ? If this is the case can you test it please?

[@flavioionasc4947]

haven't finished the video, but yes, the "shadow pop-in" with PT seems like it's a pop-in but in reality it's just the LOD of the tree model changing, so the shadows follow the model obviously. This theoretically can be fixed by manually increasing the LOD detail distance in the console commands that Digital Foundry showed in their video

[@sozzledpete4641]

How did you get frame generation working I’m playing on pc gamepass on rtx 4090 and a ryzen 7950x

[@Striker_AgingGamers]

That tree changing shape was causing the "shadow popin".

[@cygnusx7]

No way those few tree LOD's have a significant impact on performance. They're gonna fix this real soon I think.

[@PizzlesTechTime]

I turned on full path tracing in 4K and HDR and I started seeing weird silhouettes around all the characters and objects It looked like a ghost

[@lalala-lw6ss]

What do you use to monitor your fps ?

[@alexg6432]

We need a LOD Mod asap, what a shame on max settings

[@listX_DE]

1440p Supreme PT Medium pulls over 16gb of vram.😬

[@chrisking6695]

So how am I getting 100fps in 1440p Supreme, full PT, DLSSQ + FG on a 4080s? Shouldn’t work if it uses more than 16GB of vram.

[@listX_DE]

@@chrisking6695 -_- Yea you are using at 1440P Dlss you gonna have less vram usage. And look for 1%lows

[@racerx6384]

The ray traced reflections are more visible in the museum

[@JustThePR]

Is Frame Generation broken for you as well?

[@OneTwoWolf]

Indiana Jones and the Great Pop-In! I swear pop-in used to be way less noticebale on older games with only raster, not having to resort to ray or path tracing... The path tracing does look great, but I feel like the pop-in is way more noticable than it should be, even with path tracing.

[@j_james_01]

Love it brother. 🤜🏼❤️

[@edgarvalle333]

And here I was looking at my 4070 Super... the performance for a 4090 is wild lol

[@helloimuzumakikira1]

I do like all these graphically improving tech as people with very high end pcs can really experience more visual improvement in their system Problem is, its coming at the cost of lazy optimising and the game devs thinking these tech will do the work for u, so lower end systems are being more obsolete. Game devs really need to flesh out their games catering to all systems from low end to very high end. These high end options should not be baseline, it should be a luxury option. And its not like games are cheaper now, its really expensive compared to the prices AAA titles were before.

[@zakidz6716]

i feel like i am in a dream and not awake 4k maxed settings with a 4090 get 30fps and arround 20gb vram usage, this is insane

[@cosmic_gate476]

It's only getting heavier from here, these first few full PT games still have a low samples per pixel and light bounces. Doubling the resolution of a texture qudaruples its area, and VRAM requirement. This is likely why Nvidia is leaning so hard on DLSS, they gonna find a way to run at 240p internal for 4k output lmao

[@piotrnowak8725]

The developers are creating demand for 50 series.

[@flo8517]

@@cosmic_gate476 idk i giggled at that. I can actually see them leaning into this and going even up to 8k while not even rendering native 1080. Crazy with what tricks we can push todays grafics

[@chrisking6695]

@@piotrnowak8725what about Cuperpunk? It came out years ago and to this day a 4090 can’t handle it with full PT in 4k as well as it should without DLLSQ and FG. Did they also push the sales of 50 series cards? Maybe but only maybe PT has always been really resource hungry and because current card can’t handle it, it’s not used much? But with the 50 series coming devs can know use it more? Or will that just be stupid marketing to push ppl to buy NVIDIA? It’s all a conspiracy isn’t it?

[@houdini329]

Dude it's patht tracing. That tech is sci fi stuff. We don't even fully utilize ray tracing and normal human class hardware can't even handle ray tracing. You don't have to always max everything just because it's there b

[@ОлегВ-ж3р]

waiting for the RTX5090, such a game should be played at maximum settings

[@hocine9664]

thanks for video you become my reference GPU benchmark the best one

[@karlitovich]

20 GB VRAM WTF

[@mikeramos91]

It’s only with FG which eats more vram. FG in my opinion isn’t worth the input lag 🤷🏻‍♂️

[@PinnuskaTV]

@@mikeramos91 You really defending that high VRAM usage?

[@mikeramos91]

@@PinnuskaTV even without FG the vram is ridiculous. Just saying it only hits 20gb with FG. Cyberpunk looks way better & uses around 14gb

[@voz888xt]

​@@mikeramos91 absolutely yes ! with PT, cyberpunk can't be defeated by any other game visually imo for me

[@rlf1989]

if you have the VRAM available why shouldn't it be used? It could just be allocated for objects further away. It should be easy for a game to test how much is available on start up then make the most of it.

[@zsigmondforianszabo4698]

the game graphics reminds me of the mobile shooter critical ops. Do they even do any tonemapping? feels like baked AO textures. running 60fps on a 4090.

[@axelchill5395]

Why do you always deactivate half of the processor cores?

[@niravsarkargaming8888]

RDR 2 base game maximum graphics no RT looks same but less intensive

[@Copyright_striker]

does even rdr2 have rt?

[@tyler6602]

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[@ZzzX-n3g]

Glass display cases are a good showcase of the RT reflections