ZZZ Gacha Truth: Debunking Myths and Exposing Misinformation in Zenless Zone Zero

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Static Breed

Static Breed

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@ChozotheBozo
@ChozotheBozo 2 ай бұрын
Doing single pulls at soft pity is still valid advice for people who are attempting to pull the weapon banner afterwards, with limited resources.
@staticbreed
@staticbreed 2 ай бұрын
1000% agree. I didn't dive into that as it's common sense imo once you know the rest. But definitely worth mentioning here, thank you
@vickovoyd9352
@vickovoyd9352 2 ай бұрын
I thought all the things u stated in the video were common knowledge in the ha ha community but i guess not
@BluecoreG
@BluecoreG 2 ай бұрын
It's also valid advice if you only care about the 5 star character. There is no reason not to do single pulls at high pity. I'm confused the purposes of this video
@AndreiHarkov
@AndreiHarkov 2 ай бұрын
​@@BluecoreG"to pull the weapon banner afterwards" Did you miss that part of the comment?
@NebulosoPrime
@NebulosoPrime 2 ай бұрын
I still have to understand what this means
@donchrisangelo5699
@donchrisangelo5699 2 ай бұрын
Ever since the whole "Genshin chests respawn" debacle from wayback, dude's been on a nonstop downward spiral
@staticbreed
@staticbreed 2 ай бұрын
I completely forgot about this! I think that was the first lie he promoted that landed and caused confusion in absolutely every social miHoYo related. Brings back memories
@rvth
@rvth 2 ай бұрын
Yeah, that dude left a weird impression on me on how much BS clickbait / false info he was putting on YT, back when Genshin released
@ibnkhara6146
@ibnkhara6146 2 ай бұрын
Never forget the whole "free Ayaka at AR42" debacle as well, inb4 dude's going to start yapping on getting a "free Miyabi at InterKnot level 42" or smth
@staticbreed
@staticbreed 2 ай бұрын
​@@ibnkhara6146 HOLY MOLY! I COMPLETELY forgot about the Free Akaya lie he never addressed but promoted continously! Man, trip down memory lane today...
@coolzulu4178
@coolzulu4178 2 ай бұрын
Who is this channel?
@goblez5900
@goblez5900 2 ай бұрын
There is actually a way to increase your odds of an S-Rank in ZZZ. Much like in Blue Archive if you set Mari as your background and pat her head before pulling, your luck increases significantly.. In ZZZ, if you make Corrin your background, you will get boundless good fortune.
@momospoosi
@momospoosi 2 ай бұрын
Protecc Corin
@blumstein3468
@blumstein3468 2 ай бұрын
Can confirm. I 'won' Nekomata and got Qingyi at my 69th pull (nice) with a Corin Namecard.
@crancelbrowser5478
@crancelbrowser5478 2 ай бұрын
Hey, I waited until midnight and pet Inky 3 times, and got Ellen first try, so based on that anecdote, I will do this every single time I do pulls until I die (wow how do casinos stay in busines?)
@dudesayshi2191
@dudesayshi2191 2 ай бұрын
Dawg I made corin my actual PC wallpaper and ever since I've been rolling s ranks like hotcakes
@goblez5900
@goblez5900 2 ай бұрын
@@crancelbrowser5478 Casinos stay in business because most gamblers quit before a big win. You've gotta keep on that grind.
@kimarimoi
@kimarimoi 2 ай бұрын
The key thing to understand about Hoyo's gachas is, 10x pulls are an illusion. All pulls are single pulls--the 10x button presses 1x ten times automatically and shows you the results all at once. There's no extra bonus for the 10x or any way to cheat the system, but they're hoping you'll assume there is and end up spending more money.
@dramaqueenmiku6386
@dramaqueenmiku6386 2 ай бұрын
im always getting more lucky when doing ten pulls smh 😅
@randomperson4198
@randomperson4198 2 ай бұрын
About to say the same. ​@@dramaqueenmiku6386
@shivablack2832
@shivablack2832 2 ай бұрын
​@@dramaqueenmiku6386Maybe its cause you click less
@Leichuanttv
@Leichuanttv 2 ай бұрын
to me, 10 pulls are more about convenience than about rates. I don't want to click 1x pull a ton of times as that gets very monotonous. Dokkan Battle had some banners where you could only do 1 pull at a time and after a while I stopped touching those banners.
@Vandalieu
@Vandalieu 2 ай бұрын
What illusion is there? You pull ten times and are guaranteed an A rank every tenth pull, you can either pull the single ten times to get a guaranteed A rank or you can pull the ten times once and get a guaranteed A rank. It is there purely for the sake of convenience. Like imagine having to hot pull 90 times in a row to get a guaranteed S rank compared to only needing to pull 9 times with the ten times banner.
@SeekGrace
@SeekGrace 2 ай бұрын
That thumbnail is wild. "Get 500% better S rank rates". Sh*t reminds me the "free candy van" meme.
@NobleWish
@NobleWish 2 ай бұрын
ZZZ is the first gacha I'm actually getting invested into so it's nice to learn. I started off saving for 10 pulls but now I just pull when I can, especially when I'm going for the lb agent lol
@opietaylorpiano
@opietaylorpiano 2 ай бұрын
Knew that clown was lying when he said you have higher chance if you multi pull but when he does his pulls always does singles near the end 😂.
@staticbreed
@staticbreed 2 ай бұрын
@@opietaylorpiano EXACTLY THIS! He exposes himself on stream as well when he pulls. Terrible.
@Archetype_Angel
@Archetype_Angel Ай бұрын
Honestly, I just ignore soft pity. I mean is nice to know there's a small boost but at the end of the day we have no control over it even if we knew the exact numbers, since, you know, it's still probability. If I get the character earlier then good, if not, there's always hard pity which actually is a solid number and that's what players should be aiming for. Also, what a nice surprise to hear a Breath of Fire 3 song at the end of the video. Nice little trait for my ears.
@Akuza_Sazaki
@Akuza_Sazaki 2 ай бұрын
"Keep on gachaing until it sparks or rainbow" - a gacha gamer
@AstralBelt
@AstralBelt 2 ай бұрын
FGO?
@grsyvokanimi
@grsyvokanimi 2 ай бұрын
At last someone said it. Your content is spot on, and big L to that certain channel that has been misleading players since 1.0 days of genshin
@staticbreed
@staticbreed 2 ай бұрын
Super appreciated. Thanks for checking it out!! It's crazy that so many of us from the Genshin era witnessed the havoc and fake news that channel was spreading, the respawning chests was indeed his first poison.. And heck, he does it with a smile!
@tawlney
@tawlney 2 ай бұрын
From what I have heard of the person you are referring to, I vaguely remember them saying something along the line of them once being a gacha addict (maybe that was someone else but I'm not sure). Because of this, it's very likely that this dude may genuinely believe some if not all of the misinformation they say. My recollection of what I saw of the videos of theirs was an attitude of "if I see it I must say it" kinda vibe. All this to say, it's hard to ultimately trust the source as reliable.
@kingbblue
@kingbblue 2 ай бұрын
This video answered a lot of questions for me. I won’t lie I have been contemplating for quite a while whether I should use and trust Lootbar if need be in the near future, because of how much I see it being promoted by other KZbinrs. Of course it would be nice to get the same amount of in game currency but for cheaper especially for how high the prices are for the limited amount the game gives. My reasonings being as well that a recent weapon banner in Genshin literally took up everything I had to my name that I earned being f2p and my god was that painful. 😭😂 I’ve been wanting Yelan and her weapon for months now ever since I started playing the game and well now I’ve reached a point in the game where the primo gain is very slow and time is ticking, the days are going by. By now you would see where the contemplation would come in for Lootbar.
@staticbreed
@staticbreed 2 ай бұрын
Super happy this helped you. Sounds like this came JUST at the right time. I've heard great things, but also horrible things about Lootbar. I think it GREATLY depends on what game you are using these Third-party currency sellers FOR. I would never, ever use a Third-party to buy premium currency for a Gacha game, unless it's clear that they are affiliated and authorized by HoYoVerse or Kuro Games for example. To my memory, I think Kuro Games is affiliated with one, but I can't recall which. Totally feel you about that luck you had on the weapon banner.. that's enough to dry up your long earned primos in a flash. You know, a lot of these Third-party sellers use VPN's to get the better prices. And I'm defo not hinting you to try it, as depending on the weight of the savings you achieve, it is also RISKY business. But I've seen a lot of people ask about it and many respond positively. This is probably why these Third-party sellers are so successful. It's important to remember that they cannot do anything if their methods get detected and your account suffers the consequences for it. At best, they'd refund you, but they won't help you beyond that with your account (which I'm sure you already know). Good luck to you friend!
@kingbblue
@kingbblue 2 ай бұрын
@@staticbreed Thank you so much bro. Ever since starting Genshin in late December I’ve learned that the Hoyo and Gacha communities in general can be very troublesome in various ways, whether it be company or fan drama or controversies and the few examples shown in the video. However there’s those like you in the community that are here to counter it all. Well appreciated.
@staticbreed
@staticbreed 2 ай бұрын
@@kingbblue that's exactly it. Like you say the hoyo community is huge and there are all types of opinions that are not factual and other misleading things. For some reason, nobody wants to debunk them.. probably due to fear of going against the flow. But heck, thanks for saying that. I don't want to ever end up doing misleading stuff or stretched out vids, if I do and you see me losing my way, smack me back!! Thanks again my dude
@Ajamzx
@Ajamzx 2 ай бұрын
@@staticbreed Codashop is the only 3rd party website that Hoyo affiliates with. Funnily enough to my knowledge sites like Lootbar are just a semi-legal middleman between you and Codashop since a lot of countries do not have access to the asian gacha part of that site. Let me be clear: what you said is true especially because a lot of these sites require you to have someone top up for you instead of it being a direct charge up (please never do this). Sites like lootbar only require UID (so nothing you can do to decline these top ups) which get constantly used to annoy streamers with 1 dollar top ups on stream which is another issue I don't see much talk about.
@pandan__
@pandan__ 2 ай бұрын
Yeah my original reply that was deleted to that person was to not use third party sites to buy monochrome because there was a potential risk of chargeback, and if they really wanted to get a discount that they could use a vpn and buy it directly through the client, but even then there is always a risk of getting ban.
@staticbreed
@staticbreed 2 ай бұрын
Pandaaaaaaaaaaaaan, the protagonist from the video! Cheers for dropping in. That's exactly right, and helpful. Shocking still that although you tried to help and educated, he deleted it. Certainly a reason.. his previous videos likely promote those methods.
@pandan__
@pandan__ 2 ай бұрын
@@staticbreed I was okay when he deleted my comment because it could be seen as advocating for exploiting a loophole. However, after watching your video it really opened my eyes. I knew he had a history of spreading misinformation and your example of his pulling advice perfectly illustrated why I thought so. Especially from a person that studied statistics in the past and likes to understand how the gacha’s system works before I play one. I followed him during the launch of hsr and he was giving the same advice as well then too. I didn’t paid too closely to his content so I never knew that he was actively deleting comments that were calling him out, it just seems very shady.
@user-ot4ly9dp1c
@user-ot4ly9dp1c 2 ай бұрын
I personally never do single pulls because there have been multiple instances where I get more than one 5 star/S-rank within them. Same goes for weapons. If I'm lucky, then I'm lucky. If I got crap luck, then that's that. I ain't about to spend 100s of dollars when I got a college debt to worry about.
@GuiltyKit
@GuiltyKit 2 ай бұрын
I mean realistically the chances that it will ever matter is super miniscule. So yeah just do whichever you like. Been playing these games for ages, Hoyo since Genshin, and never once seen a 5 star / S rank before 20 or 30 pulls. I'm totally sure it's possible! So if someone pulled double s ranks they could argue that they "wasted" that luck on a dupe instead of a new character later. But that's almost certainly not how it works. So really it's all probably just "it doesn't matter".
@user-ot4ly9dp1c
@user-ot4ly9dp1c 2 ай бұрын
@@GuiltyKit Yup. It really just boils down to personal preferences at the end of the day.
@hedonicarus5624
@hedonicarus5624 2 ай бұрын
@@GuiltyKit I can confirm it’s possible once in a blue moon. Been playing gachas for 6 years and had my first “first 10 pull S-rank” experience recently (Zhu Yuan), it was insane. But then again maybe the gacha gods pitied my awful luck at the standard banner (Rina after 50-guarantee and 4 S-rank W-engines for characters I don’t have ever since) so this was compensation
@Liger_Soba
@Liger_Soba 2 ай бұрын
I usually do the same, but if I’m impatient and I’m within soft pity, I’ll probably just do singles so I can get the character I wanted early Xd
@tentiapoe
@tentiapoe 2 ай бұрын
@@GuiltyKit it's technically better to always do singles but like you said, it's unlikely to ever matter. And doing singles costs an even more precious resources: Time!
@fabiobozic126
@fabiobozic126 2 ай бұрын
You are a king. I just started ZZZ and its the first gacha i took seriously. (Afk journey or dyslite) and i was massivly missguided by him
@speicest
@speicest 2 ай бұрын
3:00 I actually feel like the reason most people suggest doing single pulls is simply to save 4 star pity for other banners. At least that was the reason that was given to me when I first heard of this. You could also argue that it's to prevent an accidental double 5 star pull, as unlikely and inconsequential as that may be. Though any arguments that you are 'saving pity' are wrong as you say.
@staticbreed
@staticbreed 2 ай бұрын
You're absolutely right. Perhaps it would of been better for me to clarify that in the video. Frankly, I thought it was common sense that if you're saving for other banners or weapon, you'd go singles in Soft Pity. It's helpful to point it out in the comments though, so I appreciate you
@andreynordron1302
@andreynordron1302 2 ай бұрын
You got yourself a sub my sir. Please keep zzz true content rolling. You sound good, on point and have a nice way of putting things.
@staticbreed
@staticbreed 2 ай бұрын
@@andreynordron1302 Exactly what I needed to hear to get me going on the next! And thanks for subbing Andrey, grateful for your words!!
@Loli-Knight
@Loli-Knight 2 ай бұрын
Joke's on you, Sir Static, I'm sick of ALL clickbait titles! ZZZ's are just the newest ones added to the pile
@staticbreed
@staticbreed 2 ай бұрын
HELL this is accurate af. And always a delight to have a noble Knight in the comments
@andrewac1096
@andrewac1096 2 ай бұрын
True
@SonnyFRST
@SonnyFRST 2 ай бұрын
Dat
@AbyssEtc
@AbyssEtc 2 ай бұрын
Delightful, as always, thank you for your thorough and informative vids :)
@staticbreed
@staticbreed 2 ай бұрын
Thanks a ton! Super glad you're enjoying the videos. Feedback like this makes my day
@eaturvege
@eaturvege 2 ай бұрын
8:41 DUDE 😂😂😂 you killed me with this.. Also, i fricking learned logic here. The part where you explain how the rates are applied before and after an S rank drops in a 10 pull after soft pity is spot on. Thx
@staticbreed
@staticbreed 2 ай бұрын
Phaha glad that one landed! I can’t take all the credit for that quip -got inspired by someone years ago but can't remember who! And yeah, that segment shuts down those claims some people keep making but never address.
@revenant5834
@revenant5834 2 ай бұрын
Well, i did know about hard and soft pities, but its good to refresh my knowledge, right? Anyway, good video and wish you a good day. Or a night.
@staticbreed
@staticbreed 2 ай бұрын
Totally! Almost didn't add that beginning part, but it should help beginners. Glad you liked the video thanks for the good vibes!
@HeroDarkStorn
@HeroDarkStorn 2 ай бұрын
The simple rule for all Hoyo Gatchas: You need 180 pulls to get character you want. Most of the time, you'll get them before 180, but if you don't have 180, you are risking not having enough to get them once you start pulling.
@nautica3241
@nautica3241 2 ай бұрын
Thank you for making this, I was so worried I'd do a 10 pull and always be set on the 90 counter no matter what if I got an S
@pingukutepro
@pingukutepro 2 ай бұрын
When I hit the limited S rank, my phone delay lagging a little bit. You may consider it in the future thought it useless
@JohnWick2077s
@JohnWick2077s Ай бұрын
Respect for stating the facts, much appreciated 😊
@stolkeyna
@stolkeyna 2 ай бұрын
People deserve to see this, this needs to be seen and heard.
@unrealreality232
@unrealreality232 2 ай бұрын
First Time Watcher here; I watched that person’s content befire abd exactly the (3 of the same limited S rank character) and since It’s first gacha/hoyoverse game; I was super confused about how this “existed” without hoyo patching it Thanks for debunking common misconceptions and misinformation spread in the community
@staticbreed
@staticbreed 2 ай бұрын
I'm so glad this video made it to your feed! Unfortunately, so MANY new adventurers in the HoYo community fall under his reign because of the false promises and elaborate lies he puts together to make people "feel" they have the upper hand on HoYo.. which nobody ever will. The community has estimated the start of the Soft Pity as they do for all HoYo games, but even THAT is still a guess based on data shared among ourselves. Super glad to see you immediately felt it was "to good to be true" with his content.
@unrealreality232
@unrealreality232 2 ай бұрын
@@staticbreed again thanks for clearing misconceptions about this thing as a whole and being a great content creator Keep up the good work
@OtechPucci
@OtechPucci 2 ай бұрын
There is also an info in banner description that rates cap at 1.6%, so the max rate increase is 1%. This still doesn't explain how do rates increase, either by 1/74% each pull, progressively scaling(from 1/100% to 1/48% for example), or the least logical way is to increase the rates when you reach a certain amount of pulls, maybe like 0,25% rate increase at 59, 0.5% at 44 or just other numbers. We don't know yet and may never do, but does it really matter? Just pull and hope you get 5 star you need, don't pull if you don't need current banner 5 star, as simple as that
@1Pandaking
@1Pandaking 2 ай бұрын
That's not what it says. It says that the overall rate once you factor in the hard pity guarantee is 1.6% this is also most likely the minimum they are required to state.
@staticbreed
@staticbreed 2 ай бұрын
@@1Pandaking Thank for clarifying this 1Panda, I agree and this is equally my understanding of it as they specify the hard pity in brackets. I can see the logic behind OtechPucci's comment though, but as you said, they say "overall" & including guarantee" for a reason.
@Justin163
@Justin163 2 ай бұрын
We can reverse engineer the rates with pretty high confidence based on the community submitted data to some of the pull tracking websites, from what one of the teams running one of those sites have said in the past, as well as my own simulations, it appears to be flat 0.6% until soft pity, and then 6% extra chance per pull until hard pity (i.e. 6.6% at 74, 12.6% at 75 etc), the confidence at the 85+ pull range is not high as the sample size of collected data is just too low unfortunately, but the chance of getting there is already so low that it barely changes the outcome. The character pull rates seem to be the same between Genshin/HSR/ZZZ Interestingly the weapon rates are slightly different, Genshin appears to be soft pity starting from 63 pulls and the 0.7% rate increases by 7% per pull, but the ZZZ w-engine soft pity appears to start at 65 and the 1% base rate increases by 6% per pull, I'm not sure about the HSR lightcone banner I haven't looked into that. The Bangboo banner appears to have the same rates as the w-engine banner also, just without the 75/25. Running simulations with high pull counts per attempt with the above numbers come very close to the (including guarantee) rate of 1.6% / 2% etc they state, though with lower pull counts per attempt the numbers end up slightly lower due to attempts being mid pity that has a bigger proportional influence on the rates as compared to e.g. 10k pulls per attempt. Obviously this is unconfirmed as it's not sourced directly from hoyo themselves, but the number of pulls tracked on the pull tracker websites is high enough that we can be reasonably certain the above information is accurate
@SonnyFRST
@SonnyFRST 2 ай бұрын
Not sure if those were facts (cause I trust nobody, not even myself) but he did keep it straight forward and with minimal fluff.
@mimo5383
@mimo5383 2 ай бұрын
You went to easy on him.
@staticbreed
@staticbreed 2 ай бұрын
I love your comment, it's so firm and clear. You're right, I held back BIG time consider the amount chaos and lies he inserted with a smile into the community.. for years. Had to throw a jab to sign off 8:41
@tentiapoe
@tentiapoe 2 ай бұрын
@@staticbreed you also did reveal who they are at 5:55, not that it's hard to find out either way, but it's good to see people caring about privacy and harassment!
@SplittedCorn
@SplittedCorn 2 ай бұрын
Very informative video with your majestic voice man, but I'm NGL I've never reached soft pity ever since I played ZZZ. I swear Hoyoverse is doing something with my account!
@staticbreed
@staticbreed 2 ай бұрын
I'm not sure what this channel would be without our Corn making an appearance here and there! I GASPED when I realized what you were saying.. you've NEVER had to go up to soft pity for an S-Rank?! That's wild luck
@SplittedCorn
@SplittedCorn 2 ай бұрын
@@staticbreed Probably the first time I ever experienced being lucky LOL 😂, I don't even remember how many times that i lose the 50/50 in GI and HSR...
@richardofmehh5967
@richardofmehh5967 2 ай бұрын
So weird, I saw your comment on his video before it was deleted. Funny this popped up on my feed. I do think the "saving pulls" when doing singles near pity is if you don't like the 4 stars on the banner or if you were to get another 5 star close after you would rather it be one on the next banner. So in that case you are saving pulls even with the pity carrying over. Nice video, very concise.
@uuabbit
@uuabbit 2 ай бұрын
i kinda hate sifting through cc's when i'm locking into a new game. took me a while but i think i just found mine for zzz, u earned a sub 😁
@staticbreed
@staticbreed 2 ай бұрын
Really appreciate you, it's so good to hear this from people who freshly begin their adventure in the community. Cheers, and welcome abored!
@gio87vr
@gio87vr 2 ай бұрын
There is a simple way to get an approximate value of the chance at each pity count, they already did it for Genshin, recover data from many pulls from many players and get the model from them. Thanks to the law of large numbers we know that the more data we have the more precise will be the estimate value, so in some time they'll publish some study about all the rates, the more data the better.
@akabanesuzakuVT
@akabanesuzakuVT 2 ай бұрын
Ah that guy. Even when i was new to hoyoverse games (I started playing 1.5 Genshin and has been playing other hoyoverse games since) a lot of things they said didn't make sense at all. He made it seem that hoyoverse are a bunch of amateurs in business prone to making bad decisions for their company profits. It just seemed super off despite me not knowing anything about gacha at the time.
@WatchingWithDinner
@WatchingWithDinner 2 ай бұрын
KZbinr - "Shanaha" is alos a scam linking shill thats shows missinformation
@staticbreed
@staticbreed 2 ай бұрын
@@WatchingWithDinner Thanks for this! I'll check them out to see the degree. Strangely I've never come across them yet!
@WatchingWithDinner
@WatchingWithDinner 2 ай бұрын
@@staticbreed They seem to be new to gatcha content but are already sending people to knowen scam sites like "lootbar"
@Juimimi
@Juimimi 2 ай бұрын
I've also been around hoyo games for a while, and this other guy is just a misinformation machine, literally everyone ends ups confused because of this guy 😂
@templeknights
@templeknights 2 ай бұрын
We exposing Mattjestic with this one 🗣🔥🔥🔥🔥!!
@messmass2573
@messmass2573 2 ай бұрын
I don't even play ZZZ, but your video is so entertaining. You got a sub ❤
@staticbreed
@staticbreed 2 ай бұрын
@@messmass2573 What nice comment to wake up to..Thank you for saying this . Another BIG one releasing tomorrow.
@Stevenjunt
@Stevenjunt 2 ай бұрын
I watched through the video and all i have to say is that... your channel is really underrated! You've been putting out these really well made informational videos as well guides, and funny ones such as exe's! I'l stay subscribed and tune in to your future videos.
@staticbreed
@staticbreed 2 ай бұрын
I was scrolling through comments at 3 AM here, and while I loved every single one, yours really hit different. It's awesome, people like you that keep me pumped to try new stuff and not just copy what everyone else is doing. I suck at putting myself out there and hyping up the channel. All my time goes into making the videos, 'cause I figure that's the most important thing as it's not just my name on this channel - it's all of you awesome subscribers who believe in it. Thanks for being part of the crew. And new video's dropping today!
@renno2679
@renno2679 Ай бұрын
Also a lot of people are saying the rates ramp up above 70 is because of the global stats (well not exactly global. just the people that upload their pull history, but it should be big enough to see something), which we DO have. The theory/model is that it increases all the way up to 100% as it goes from 70 to 90. Whether it's linear or not idk.
@tsf9600
@tsf9600 2 ай бұрын
Mfw I've never heard of any of these misconceptions before and I've been playing Hoyoverse games since Phoenix released in HI3. Well, except the singer one in ZZZ but my friends disproved it in a few minutes of discussion. I thought all of this stuff was common sense 🫠 Great video though, I guess someone needed to put things into perspective and lay out only the facts.
@Octosnakes
@Octosnakes Ай бұрын
HOLY SHIT! You used the port town song from Breath of Fire 3 in the video!
@staticbreed
@staticbreed Ай бұрын
@@Octosnakes Gotta train Beyd up!!!
@TheRealSaya69
@TheRealSaya69 2 ай бұрын
Yup I remember the dude. Its the "FReEdom oF sPeEcH" guy 🤣🤣
@smashybox
@smashybox 2 ай бұрын
1:31 funniest edit known to man.
@staticbreed
@staticbreed 2 ай бұрын
THIS GUY GETS IT!
@ViVaLaRan
@ViVaLaRan 2 ай бұрын
Based BOF3 OST backround music
@orangehalo6947
@orangehalo6947 2 ай бұрын
I don't usually hang around the community of Hoyo games(except for art) and vids like this come once in a while. I thought you'd be telling me some crazy stuff that I don't know, but to think you had to point these simple stuff out is absolutely unbelievable. Better safe than sorry, there will always be those people out there, I respect the fight for misinformation. Dr. Ratio approved Vincit Omnia Veritas.
@TanyaKory
@TanyaKory 2 ай бұрын
One important thing in ZZZ is that epic characters and legendary characters have the same counter meaning that if you got your legendary character the counter for an epic character will reset.
@kiryu-kazuma42069
@kiryu-kazuma42069 2 ай бұрын
Likelyhood of hitting 90 very low Yet every S rank ive got so far has been minimum 85 pulls and ive lost every 50/50 75/25
@staticbreed
@staticbreed 2 ай бұрын
YIKES!! Somebody PLEASE, SEND THIS MAN YOUR LUCK! I've been pretty ok I guess. Landed on 75 and 81 for me, not great but, didn't have to reach on Hard Pity at least!
@kgm6981
@kgm6981 2 ай бұрын
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@alip9195
@alip9195 2 ай бұрын
I am new to the whole gacha things I started with ZZZ it’s my trust gacha game So I am trusting you with your contents and wisdom
@staticbreed
@staticbreed 2 ай бұрын
It's a honor to hear this from a new Gacha player! You're in the right place for factual and fun content !
@HannahPen-e2n
@HannahPen-e2n 2 ай бұрын
1:11 I always treat all gacha games as rigged like Maplestory until a credible external source checks its authenticity
@yllare
@yllare 2 ай бұрын
im genuinely surprised notepad guy's channel is still up. I heard way back during genshin's early days that he got bullied out of existence since his "information" is indeed highly questionable.
@DavidWoodMusic
@DavidWoodMusic 2 ай бұрын
Plazookas is going to find SOME way to make this video about Tectone
@staticbreed
@staticbreed 2 ай бұрын
@@DavidWoodMusic Pahaha! WELL never heard of that Plazookaa dude, but Tectone, him I know, but never watched.
@sonoda944
@sonoda944 2 ай бұрын
Doing 10 single pull is like spending all paycheck at once, and one 10 pull is like saving up for holiday and go on massive splurge.
@DacianGradaMusic
@DacianGradaMusic 2 ай бұрын
As an early Genshin player it's kinda sad to see people using the same baits as back then for misinformation... Boosted rates? More chances at 2+ S ranks back to back? Come on dudes, it's just gacha luck in the end. I'm glad there's people like you who try to debunk all this misinfo but it seems it'll never fully go away. 😞
@blacksiopao
@blacksiopao 2 ай бұрын
Ive also been seeing his video for years, for soem reason he only pops up at the infancy of the Gacha, then disappears, then comes out again when a new gacha appears
@yoshineitor
@yoshineitor 19 күн бұрын
I never understood the "buy from outside sources" deal, like, there's no way a 3rd party can guarantee cheaper prices than the official party unless they go through some loopholes, which most of them usually involve getting your acc banned in the long run. If the pulls appear to pricey for you (which they are) then remain F2P or low spend (battlepass and monthly poly sub).
@braken63
@braken63 2 ай бұрын
I do think it's stupid that the singer doesn't match the gender of the S Rank
@Galf506
@Galf506 2 ай бұрын
you would basically never hear the male voice
@basingod
@basingod 2 ай бұрын
Its better that way, makes it unique
@leklein09
@leklein09 2 ай бұрын
maybe is the main character we choose in the beginning that affect it?
@superxmario128
@superxmario128 2 ай бұрын
The roster is basically 98% females with even more on the way. You'd never hear the male singer, especially with Lycaon being the only male S rank character at the moment.
@SmashTheAdam
@SmashTheAdam 2 ай бұрын
​@@leklein09nah, I use Wise and I still get the female voice sometimes
@notruminari5668
@notruminari5668 2 ай бұрын
I love edging pull on hoyo game at X4 pity bcs going to 74 kinda removes the thrill of pulling if u go one by one (1by1 is arguably the best choice if you're minmaxing resource)
@jesusvermillionthemereoleo5660
@jesusvermillionthemereoleo5660 Ай бұрын
Hmm Interesting. I've personally always done multis whenever I've been nearing hard pity, simply because for most units, it's a win-win scenario. Even tho the rates after you get the S rank drop back down to at least 0.600, there's still that tiny chance you could end up with 2 S ranks in one multi. The main motivation for me here is that 90% of units I pull for, I really like, meaning that if I got a dupe of the same limited S rank, I'd be more than happy. If the 2nd S rank in the multi ended up being a 50/50 loss? Still cool, since I'd be certain to have a guarantee for next banner.
@Nekyomi
@Nekyomi 2 ай бұрын
these rates really makes you go "Lets go gambling!"
@thorizon2187
@thorizon2187 2 ай бұрын
That's Social Engineering at its finest, Repeat the lie enough and they started to believe him.
@Ayyyuki
@Ayyyuki 2 ай бұрын
Omg Ty for this vid I was searching this up on google earlier today
@staticbreed
@staticbreed 2 ай бұрын
HEY that's awesome! super happy it came at the right time. Cheers for watching
@damianxi4133
@damianxi4133 2 ай бұрын
I just want to believe a bug slipped, making the pity pulls stay the same for all 10 pulls
@will_rcq4264
@will_rcq4264 Ай бұрын
Every banner I’ve pulled on has taken me deep into soft pitty every time like I’ll be less than 10 pulls from hard pitty many other gachas I’ve played I’ve actually gotten 5 stars/s ranks way before it could be just luck but it’s happens 4 times in a row now
@toastertech1181
@toastertech1181 2 ай бұрын
Sometimes I wonder why I get recommended videos about rolling characters in gatcha games even tho I don't care about that.. but then I remember I have played gatcha for years.. so mite as well just watch it
@Hhhh22222-w
@Hhhh22222-w 2 ай бұрын
That bird screech in the beginning hurts my ear
@staticbreed
@staticbreed 2 ай бұрын
I'm so sorry.. I hope you're okay! I try to keep the sound to a limited level equal level. Again, hope you're alright.
@Osprey1994
@Osprey1994 2 ай бұрын
.y general advice has always been based on my 4 years of Genshin, my time in HSR, and now my time in WuWa (WuWa has different rates and a different hard pity, but my account seems to hit around the same thresholds as Hoyo games). I warn people that from 65-80 That is when you are most likely to see your 5 star. I personally recommend 10 pull up to at least 70, and then single pull until you hit. The reason for this is because doubles do happen, and I do not personally WANT to hit a late double. The reason being is that if I have put 70 pulls in, I am not pulling the weapon, and I don't want to go for constellations on that run, I would like to grab the character if I win 50/50 and then fuck off. If you 10 pull around soft pity, there is a chance that you double purely because there is a chance of hitting a 5 star at any point from 0-90, and I have hit a banner 5 star single pulling, and then hit the next banner 5 star with my first pull...if I had just thrown a 10 pull, I would have hit, and then missed out on an early 5 star for the next character. Hitting early can be huge, my ZZZ account hit Ellen in the first 10, and that allowed me to go for her weapon which hit within the first 40. That put me well under budget, which set me up for pursuing Zhu Yuan and eventually Jane Doe. If you like gambling, then gamba away, but if you put a little thought into your pulls, it's really not that rough. Good luck everyone.
@championCynthia2348
@championCynthia2348 2 ай бұрын
My current running beliefs If you say "what's the worst that could happen?" The best outcome will occur If you have Qingyi as your dynamic wallpaper, it gives you better odds These may or may not be related, and realistically are highly unlikely to ACTUALLY affect your odds, but who knows, maybe there's a bug hehe
@ahmedtag3904
@ahmedtag3904 2 ай бұрын
I can confirm the singing part since i got qingyi and the song was with the male singer vocals
@KIKthaFRIK
@KIKthaFRIK 2 ай бұрын
Wow now I feel extremly lucky when I pulled an S rank being in soft pity in the non event banner and the next single pull gave me an S rank weapon lol
@ColourFreakz
@ColourFreakz 2 ай бұрын
I actually do Single Pulls as soon as I get to hard Pity, because I don't want double Five-Stars. I'd rather stop pulling after the Five-Star, to save the rest of my pulls for the next banner. Because every additional pull on the current banner is a waste for me personally, since I don't pull to build up pity. Because in the end, every single pull has a chance to get you the S-Rank. I have seen though, on the Hoyoverse App, that people keep building pity on one banner, just to be surprised that they get the A-Rank again, which resets the guarantee xD people just dont want to learn.
@Linkophere
@Linkophere 2 ай бұрын
Whatever the truth is with pulls, every time I've followed the pull amounts I've pulled ridiculous amounts of A and S ranks. So ill keep doing it.
@bfieldcreator6347
@bfieldcreator6347 2 ай бұрын
I commented this kn another video lately, but most people don't know how the A-rank banner agents work like. Imagine you get an A-rank item that is not the banner top up. For example in the Qingyi banner you get Anton, then your next A-rank banner is confirmed to be the ones that come with the banner, in this case it would be either Billy or Corin. And the same applies wirh the S-rank. If you get an off-banner S-rank character, or a standard banner character, the next one is confirmed to be on-banner. Aka, the character tou like wanted to pull (Qingyi, in this case).
@staticbreed
@staticbreed 2 ай бұрын
This is helpful, thank you for explaining it. It would of been good if I included this in a small segment, but you've nailed it here. Cheers
@bfieldcreator6347
@bfieldcreator6347 2 ай бұрын
@@staticbreed You explanation was good as well, informative and fun, keep the job up!
@K-Sha1
@K-Sha1 2 ай бұрын
Relevant thing here, your guaranteed A rank (both the 10 pity and the guarantee after not getting rateup) can be hijacked by an S rank, rate up or not. Happened to me yesterday trying to get Corin copies and I hit a Lycaon on one of my A rank pities. What I'm saying is that, should this happen your A rank pity will reset despite not getting one.
@bfieldcreator6347
@bfieldcreator6347 2 ай бұрын
@@K-Sha1 Oh yeah. I hate this mechanic. In SR and Genshin this doesn't happen, so I don't know why they decided to implement it.
@K-Sha1
@K-Sha1 2 ай бұрын
@@bfieldcreator6347 Does it really not? The info screens in all 3 games have the same wording on this phenomenon which altogether is a direct implication that it's possible. Wild, but yeah it's cringe.
@renno2679
@renno2679 Ай бұрын
The fact that it's Hoyo's third game after HI3 and people still don't know how the gacha works???
@supervegeta881
@supervegeta881 2 ай бұрын
Idk if this is what he meant in the video, but to make things clear, the gender of the singer in the S Rank pull does NOT determine whether or not you get the featured character or lose the 50/50. It's all random. At least this is how it's been with my personal experience from pulling on the game, but feel free to correct me if I'm wrong. Also thank you for the informative video!
@staticbreed
@staticbreed 2 ай бұрын
This is EXACTLY correct, thank you for explaining it here, and for watching
@DYFENGAME
@DYFENGAME 2 ай бұрын
about the singing part I know its a fake right , but everytime the female ost hits up i always get offrate 😂😂😂
@kidghost3035
@kidghost3035 2 ай бұрын
I call everything five star till this day
@amacaddict
@amacaddict 2 ай бұрын
I love being most special. 97.836% of the time I make it to hard pity.
@Karzakus
@Karzakus 2 ай бұрын
Do you have any examples of people being banned for using 3rd party top up services? You mentioned that you've seen dozens of people get banned for using them but I've been unable to find a single post online about something like that. Like ofc it's against TOS but I thought it was similar to modding where there hasn't been any instances of people actually getting banned, so I'm curious who you've seen get hit
@staticbreed
@staticbreed 2 ай бұрын
In the video. Reddit, MiHoYo CM (HoYoLAB). This is over the period of over 8 yrs. It happens all the time, HoYoVERSE just don't disclose the exact reason on the pop up message and request them to contact customer support. You're welcome not to believe this, it's all the same to me. Good luck!
@dustinsanity85
@dustinsanity85 2 ай бұрын
Idk about pity. I just know I've gotten EVERY S rank THING I've pulled for in 40 pulls or less, of 10 pulls specifically.
@immanuelaj
@immanuelaj 2 ай бұрын
Hoyo doesn't have the exact rates either. Because of how random numbers work, if you tell a computer to do something 5% of the time, you can't trust that the computer is doing it exactly 5%. The only way is to look at the outputs numerous times and calculate from there. It might end up that it actually became 5.001% instead.
@Illdos
@Illdos Ай бұрын
There are ways you can get around that. For instance you could have a list of outcomes that has the same distribution as your odds, then shuffle that list and deal them out to players as pulls are requested, that would ensure the actual output matches the distribution you want. Alternately, you could use a real world source of randomness (such as radioactive decay) as the source for your numbers and just do math on the input to (again) get the distributions you want. Of course, it's impossible to know if Hoyo uses any of those options or just something that's "good enough", but if nothing else it should be good food for thought.
@weimii__
@weimii__ 2 ай бұрын
Finally someone calling him out like it's so sus
@Unethical.FandubsGames
@Unethical.FandubsGames Ай бұрын
"The likelihood of you having to go that far is very low" My average pity in Genshin is 89 pulls... But yeah it's a lot better in ZZZ for some reason.
@DacrazyTTV
@DacrazyTTV 2 ай бұрын
Finally managed to get around to watching this video.
@staticbreed
@staticbreed 2 ай бұрын
Big cheers for making the time my dude! Appreciate your comment earlier in the community post too
@DacrazyTTV
@DacrazyTTV 2 ай бұрын
@staticbreed happy to be here. Thanks for educating us on ZZZ click bait.
@esunacilada
@esunacilada 2 ай бұрын
8 year veteran? Playing Honkai 3rd and Gakuen since 2016? Same here.
@staticbreed
@staticbreed 2 ай бұрын
HEY that's awesome man!! Honkai 3rd were some fun years. I heard something about a Gakuen iDOLM@STER game out soon..
@esunacilada
@esunacilada 2 ай бұрын
@@staticbreed I mean Gakuen as Houkai Gakuen, the other name Guns Girl Z has xD 3rd was a great game to play and feel the story! ZZZ combat is everything I like about hoyo, that Capcom/Platinum Games DNA
@matthewpranataa
@matthewpranataa 2 ай бұрын
i never get double 5 stars and recently i've been doing 10 pulls so if i ever get 2 close together i'd know since usually i do singles near pity and just stop 😭
@RedCoreX725
@RedCoreX725 2 ай бұрын
For recommended 3rd party shops. Try and find the ones that ACTUALLY has the same price as the in game shops. You can't get stuff for cheaper cuz Hoyo also counts for taxes from the country you're in. Hoyo NEVER give you a discount and just use some common sense why would a 3rd party cost less than the original in game price? It's not like the 3rd party would pay you for your transactions cuz that's just dumb.
@TaviiCatniss
@TaviiCatniss 2 ай бұрын
I typically used 3rd party sellers, buuuuut think im gonna stop my HSR account is to beloved for me to risk a t m
@felixS979
@felixS979 Ай бұрын
OMG! I actually know who you're talking about and follow him! It's sad the the other content creator seems to be spreading misinformation on purpose. I used to watch him for dota underlords and while preparing for Qingy I saw his preparation guide, as he was a familiar face I used to trust back then. You can find my comment in there when I call his guide, not just useless, but damaging to players if they follow it because he listed the wrong weekly mats to farm for her, which you literally only get 3 per week. Multiple other people said he was wrong and he never replied to any of them, just ignored them, I literally saw it first hand! I didn't know he had been doing this before and now seeing your video I'm just going to unsubscribe from him now.
@PivotCyroy
@PivotCyroy 2 ай бұрын
I get most of my S-Pulls in the 80-90 range.
@MidgarMerc
@MidgarMerc 2 ай бұрын
I just do singles at soft pity cause I'd rather save my rolls to do multis later cause they're funner
@squiggly4011
@squiggly4011 2 ай бұрын
Dang, Mr Multigaming is still at it
@Morichoradio
@Morichoradio 2 ай бұрын
I think gacha players should be educated on how Baye's theorem or just simple probability works because the amount of misinfo, nothing burger and childisg brainrot sht Im seeing in social media is downright laughable.
@FriendOfHatkid
@FriendOfHatkid 2 ай бұрын
I just have just 1 more question about the standard banner. And that is, a "guarantee for different type of S rank". I got myself Grace from first 50 pulls, then the next S rank was Rina, and my currently last 3rd S rank is Lycaon's engine. And, I kinda also ask others: have the same happened to you, where you get 2 S agents and then an engine? I feel like the same thing was also happening to me in genshin and hsr. And, on a different note: have the opposite been happening, where you get 2 S rank engines and only after them a character? It always at least seemed like it, but I won't be swearing by that. Not like that giraffe guy
@staticbreed
@staticbreed 2 ай бұрын
Sorry for my late reply Hatkid! I think I get you, you got two S-rank characters followed by an S-rank engine, and you’re wondering if others have experienced something similar. From what I've learned in gacha games is that sometimes it can feel like they have patterns, but that's most likely just the RNG (Random Number Generation) and these sequences that are mild are often found to be a coincidence, BUT... funny enough, I had a vocal convo with someone on discord about this not so long ago, and we couldn't say for sure for ZZZ if there is an increase on pulling an S-rank W-engine after pulling an S-rank character, simply because we don't know enough people who have seen/confirmed this pattern. The chances of getting any particular item are typically independent of what you've previously pulled in ZZZ is what I think, aside from the 50/50 on the limited banners. But it's still not impossible, you might be onto something! As for getting two S-rank engines before a character, that's possible too, but I really think in ZZZ that's just RNG doing its thing (for now at least). We might know more about this later, as these conversations and data are still currently mildly shared. People love to showcase there multi pulls, but not how they get there sadly. And yeah, I totally get what you mean about that "giraffe guy". In the end, people just have different luck, and it feels like they’re on a different wavelength altogether ! Right now, I got 2 S-rank on the stable channel ( 1 within the 50 pulls guarantee, and one after 30 pulls afterwards ). Currently have around 60 Master Tapes, saving for 80 where I'm in the Soft Pity to guarantee myself an S. If I get an S-Rank W-Engine, I promise to report back here and let you know. And if I remember, I'll report whatever I get here as well
@staticbreed
@staticbreed 2 ай бұрын
@FriendOfHatkid My dude! I made a video about our little conversation here, and did an experiment that is going to surprise you. Video is up ! Thanks again for this.
@soulyman1
@soulyman1 2 ай бұрын
How did you learn about how the Gacha system actually works if the all the numbers are hidden away even from data miners? Statistical evidence? News article? Grouped analysis?
@staticbreed
@staticbreed 2 ай бұрын
I didn't share any numbers beyond the official % by HoYo and the community estimate of the Soft Pity, not sure what you're referring to so I can't accurately reply. I touch on my background in the video.
@rosue8064
@rosue8064 2 ай бұрын
Great vid~
@Blackout-ff6ck
@Blackout-ff6ck Ай бұрын
I have yet to get an s rank before being 80 pulls in, besides the guaranteed one on the standard banner
@hotpenguin607
@hotpenguin607 2 ай бұрын
I do 10 pulls only because I ain't got no time LMAO I'm a gamer, I just wanna start playing ASAP If they allow me to do 90 pulls all at once I'd do it
@CelestialTraveler01
@CelestialTraveler01 2 ай бұрын
Got lucky and hot zhu yuan at 30 pity 😂 before 24hrs of her banner ends
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