@@sabus1265 doggie... how many signed artists do you know? Do you really think labels do that for even 1% of the artists they sign?

@@musicmarketing 0. I just saw Fantano interview Logic and he said that a record label makes it much easier. And then I googled what a record label does. They give you an A&R to help you grow. I believe there is a sweet spot and not all deals are bad.

@@MrBratkenSolov I agree that it is very difficult (less than 1% success rate) to earn money from the monetization of created music. However, using music as a marketing vehicle for other monetization efforts has a much higher success rate.

@sunnohh pricing is determined by a free market of participants Pricing in one domain is skewed from the pricing in another domain - in this case subdomains of business to business lending Is arbitrage. Eat it doggie.

@KenTeel It's Kyle Lemaire, and yes I use it all the time. Also, this is a "laws of physics" thing, not a "bad feelings" kind of thing. You design a system irrespective of feelings. Sure, it feels great to call your ideas your property. Maybe the intention was to make everybody feel good. But in only 34 years of life (can you imagine?) I have learned that intentions are bad criteria for decision making - outcomes should be the only criteria. What is the outcome of having pretended that ideas are property? 1. Less than 1% of the capital generated by artistic works has ever made it into the hands of artists 2. Global corporations that are not led by artists hold all the negotiating power, control a crushing majority of the productive effort, and virtually control almost all of the ideas (sorry, property) that have ever been produced. Sick dude, you wanted to believe songs were like Snuggies and now we're all irreparably fucked. Great job.

@@musicmarketing Well yes, I can imagine 34 years old. I was, as usual, making music at 34 years old (as I still am.) The intellectual property thing has to do with work. That word work is conviently left out of your comments. If you work at something, that you create, it's your's regardless of whether or not it's a physical object. Just because a bunch of entitled punks want something for free, doesn't negate the work, nor the property rights, of those who labored to create an intellectual work. Your issue is with the business side of things, and who is in control. Business and property rights (intellectual) are two different things. One has to do with ownership of a work, the other has to do with gate keeping to the media and making money. You are confusing these two things. If I do the labor of creating a song, that IS my property, and is recognized by all rational people. Children who have been told that they are entitled to everything don't like this. Technology has enabled them to steal, so they rationalize, as they steal. That is what you're suggesting. Intellectual property is an advanced concept. Apes don't have it. Everything is physical in their world. They don't have money either. Money is a concept at its root also. We, as humans, recognize concepts. Intellectual property is a concept, and it is base on the work ethic. Now, I don't like the music biz, either. And, I think that shady businessmen in the music biz have abused artists. But, that doesn't negate the concept and the fairness of intellectual property rights. If making money is your only criteria, then Al Capone could be one of your heroes. Afterall, he was about making money regardless of ethics. Yes, the music business has been a crooked business without a doubt. It goes way back, even further than the payola scandals, in radio. You're right. It's a mafia. And they have had way too much control over media. Fortunately, the internet is changing all of that. Regardless of my criticisms, I do enjoy your words and your videos. Thanks for making them.

@KenTeel You have an insane, self-aggrandizing, and decidedly unacademic definition of intellectual property and property in general. Literally nobody, in the history of discussion on this subject, has ever seriously tried to propose that property is tied to work ethic. There is absolutely zero hope of this discussion benefiting either you or me, so I'm going to end it here.

@@musicmarketing Not the ethic... it's the ACTUAL WORK that generates intellectual property. Because it's a concept doesn't' negate the work, nor that it's property. Show a piece of sheet music, where you actually wrote the song that is written on it.

@KenTeel I aint reading all that I'm happy for u tho Or sorry that happened

@@musicmarketing That seems to be a modern mantra. You ask for opinions and when someone actually gives you a complete one..... well I'm only interested if it's an ADD style comment.

@@musicmarketing Then let me condense if for you: You're full of crap on somethings, and right on, on others. You're spoiled and entitled generation.

@@KenTeel I don't remember asking for your opinion I think you hallucinated that

@randommusic1067 macros in excel? you think an excel macro solves what I described?

@@musicmarketing sure. grab some info from the spreadsheet generate a code and create a certificate? record the action in word or excel and edit in visual basic. might take some time initially but youll save time in the long run like if you gotta do it again.

@randommusic1067 oh I thought you meant auto addition of the codes into the cart software. No, I did use a Google Sheet for what you described

I discovered you yesterday, and now I want a big wet kiss you handsome fella

@rkk578 You seem to have a good fundamental knowledge in what I would consider standard business practice. So I can say confidently that if I sat here and explained to you the full story from Roulette Records to today you would be abjectly horrified by what has been allowed to occur in the Music industry. And, it would make all the sense in the world that it has remained a boutique industry, having traded the spoils of ubiquitous consumption and worldwide popularity for the centralized, unshakeable power and hegemony of 3 firms and the wealth of a petty theif.

@@musicmarketing Oh, I am not trying to justify it, because the rate they are working at is horrid and they exploit the naive youngsters. I think people will need to learn that they need to hire a lawyer before they sign anything, even if this costs their last dimes. And another important thing is not to spend the advance on random c**p. Btw which year was this corporate bond issued? I only found a 400 bps one, but rates went up so rapidly in the recent years that this difference wouldn't be surprising.

@rkk578 There are only so many entertainment lawyers. The hegemony of publishers and majors virtually limits the space of legal action that sufficiently experienced entertainment attorneys are willing to take. Even the space of negotiating tactics has kiddie gloves on it. I've quite literally had nearly a dozen friends who have retained legal counsel for contract negotiations during which the legal counsel failed to catch obvious language in the contract that would have indentured their client to a decade of non-primary obligations or would have massively expanded the scope of their consideration arbitrarily or at the sole discretion of their counterparts. I've experienced counterparties SELECTING attorneys for their naive would-be signees. It's literally a tank of snakes.

yeah I mean, I kinda agree I wish we had a different word. I think in this context I just mean 'short form vertical videos' and should probably just say that instead. Hate the word content so much.

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@@TheMattSwifts wot

What I did for a LONG time was go onto twitch, search feedback, and go to the channels doing feedback on songs, I’ve done that for years and it’s helped me narrow in on what is good and what isn’t.

I don’t even second guess myself if I have gold anymore, because I’ve been through the trenches enough to know what people are honestly thinking when listening to a song

That would be an awesome hookup. Ted Gioia would make it even better if all 3 could get together.

Nah. Those views and followers is why I was able to quit my job and now make a full time living as writer after blowing up on TikTok in my niche

@iamhvrcrft damn this take is good now but I can't even imagine how well it will age

​@@musicmarketingi can't tell if you're being serious or not 😂