Icon rear leaf expansion pack upgrade and good shocks go a long ways. Bilstein 5160’s work well.
@robertespinoza27404 ай бұрын
@@Scoobienorth I have 6112 and airbags in the back I think the bags are what are making mine so crazy once tires start to spin
@Scoobienorth4 ай бұрын
The stock leaf springs are junk, the icon kit Keeps the main leaf and the overload leaf and replaces the middle stuff. It’s a minor lift, and no change in payload but resists wrapping up a bunch. Long story short swap leaf spring pack and this should go away or diminish
@lorenzo53119845 ай бұрын
How many inches tall is it and what number of wheels and tires does it have?
@Scoobienorth5 ай бұрын
If you go back through my videos you can see part1-3 and see the evolution. It was on 4” rough country springs, and wound up on 37” milestar Patagonia mt’s with 17” procomp wheels at 4.5” backspace. The jk front diff is wider though so helped tire fitment and front end pushed ahead a little over 2”. This was a constant evolution of learning and solving issues to make it work better
@AlbertTevs5 ай бұрын
I have a 2004 wj 4.0 ive bought beginning of December 2023 its lifted 2.5'. What size tires would you recommend? Its got 17 inch wrangler tires right now
@Scoobienorth5 ай бұрын
I’d say you are probably on the size you need. The skinnier tires are easier to fit. Reality if you disconnect your sway bar and flex those tires will already rub. It’ll only get worse as you go wider or taller
@sarneli_yyc10 ай бұрын
Not sure if you monitor these comments... What trail did you take?
@Scoobienorth10 ай бұрын
Up Cooke creek road I think it’s around 12km marker then head up there mountain. I believe it’s marked.
@sarneli_yyc10 ай бұрын
@@Scoobienorth awesome, thanks.
@mannerkram_yt8827 Жыл бұрын
very smart girl and good in physics 😊👌
@mannerkram_yt8827 Жыл бұрын
greetings from Frankfurt Germany
@blazejjedrzejewski8449 Жыл бұрын
What is biggest size of tire on 17" wheel without any lift ?
@Scoobienorth Жыл бұрын
245/65r17
@blazejjedrzejewski8449 Жыл бұрын
@@Scoobienorth Thanks
@georgemullin7772 Жыл бұрын
Vary informative young man , I want to put on 285,70, 17 on an 05 Cherokee can I do it without to much cutting.
@Scoobienorth Жыл бұрын
An 05 should be a wk first of the ifs. I’m not sure on that chassis but as all grands the wheel wells are small and wheel offset is key. Best chance is on stock wheels and adjust the steering stops in so you don’t rub the inside too hard when steering
@georgemullin7772 Жыл бұрын
Ok thank's again
@georgemullin7772 Жыл бұрын
Great video
@walterscott4951 Жыл бұрын
I don't know what this guy's talking about I got a 2-in lift and I have 265 70 17s on it that's a 31 in tire and I believe I can get a 33 inch tire in there because of the room I have left with the 31 in tire. I only had to trim out the front bumper
@walterscott4951 Жыл бұрын
I think I made a mistake and he is saying what I have will work. But mine doesn't hit the fluid bottle with my setup and I want to go to 33 in tires
@dirtymuddyweekends Жыл бұрын
Incredible scenery and a totally different skill set for off-roading! Good stuff!
@dirtymuddyweekends Жыл бұрын
WOW! What a rig
@dirtymuddyweekends Жыл бұрын
That's some tough stuff! thanks for sharing the video!
@hangrymachinist Жыл бұрын
Super helpful. Thank you
@m2003h2 жыл бұрын
I found the same problems. I had seen that some went with 1ton tie rod ends.Me I stayed with 33's because it matched My application
@Scoobienorth2 жыл бұрын
I’m tempted to steal a bunch of the good parts of the red one and put into the white one and build it on 33’s as well. The triangulated 4 link and ticked hitch/gas tank worked really well along with my belly skid.
@tytraulich49872 жыл бұрын
All these Jeeps ride so hard. Bigger tires might help but I’d think you’d need 35+ to make a difference and by then you’d probably need a bunch of suspension mods or drivetrain Meh
@Scoobienorth2 жыл бұрын
My white one rides pretty decent. If you drive them to kill them, you’ll succeed but they take a fair bit of punishment and work really well for the money. The triangulated rear suspension in the wj helps the ride a lot and the grands seem to be balanced better than the wrangler or maybe it’s the weight further back behind the rear axle on the overhang that helps.
@peloponisios2 жыл бұрын
Where are you guys?
@Scoobienorth2 жыл бұрын
Okanagon area of British Columbia
@joserincongarrido44532 жыл бұрын
Hi guys, well, can I go 255/70r16 at fully stock?
@Scoobienorth2 жыл бұрын
Like I said , if you are stock with no cutting a stock size 245/70r16 is all that fits. The washer bottle is almost rubbing tire stock
@phillipcoble6292 жыл бұрын
Great explanation! 👍 Well done
@sslaughter97622 жыл бұрын
Hey man, appreciate the video. I'm putting a 4 inch iron rock long arm with bushwacker fenders (cutting out the fender to install). I want to fit 33 inch tires on 16 inch after market rim, any recommendations on wheel and tire? You're the man!
@Scoobienorth2 жыл бұрын
You are going to want a 4.25” backspace. Warning though you are probably fine with a 33x12.5 but the bush wackers are fairly conservative in the cutting in my opinion but they make it easy to look clean. A narrower tire will fit better than a wider one.
@willowwolves12452 жыл бұрын
Nice
@willowwolves12452 жыл бұрын
Woo cool
@elsydeon6662 жыл бұрын
When you lift a SFA coil-spring Jeep, it moves the entire axle closer to the center of the vehicle. With a 2" BB, you won't notice it, but it is there. The coil-spring rear axle is the same way.
@Scoobienorth2 жыл бұрын
The Coil on the rear of the wj is not the same and does not move off to the side, only the front does
@monette442 жыл бұрын
I agree with pretty much everything you said, you gotta try and keep the weight down where you can. Just found what the milestars actually weigh, Amazon shows them at 72 pounds for the 37x12.50r17, the lightest I've seen. Did you happen to weigh the combo, tire and wheel?
@Scoobienorth2 жыл бұрын
No I didn’t. I did basic math at the time when I put them on my wj with 17x8 procomp aluminum wheels and it was fairly light at the c time. I can’t remember what it was. Just that it was 18-19 pounds per corner from my Iroks and it was staggering in the drivability even on a wheeling only rig.
@monette442 жыл бұрын
@@Scoobienorth I think a lot of people forget how much the wheel/tire affect drivability and component life and durability. We almost all know someone with a stock axled tj, yj, jk or 1/2 ton truck running 40s and hasn't broke... yet. I've been guilty of it, still might be with my Tacoma on 37s... A person can always mitigate the risks by packing spare parts and we all kinda should but no one want to be the broken trail plug or hung up all the time getting pulled around on stock 27" tires. I like how your trying to find a balance of wheeling upgrades and on road longevity. Keep the snow wheeling Videos coming! 😜
@Trainerstrainer12 жыл бұрын
If anyone could help me with this question I would be incredibly appreciative!! To like the 10th power!..lol. So I have an 2004 WJ straight 6. I typically do my own work ,but with the parts I was needing to replace I just didnt have the proper equipment for the job..lift being one . Anyway one of the new mods is the 2 inch budget lift front and back, and also 1 inch spacers for more aggressive look. The problem now is that the tires that are on it now are LT 225/75/R16. And now with the lift ofcourse they're looking too small and goofy. I'd like to go a size upit Hope's to fill in the empty space and for more aggressive look. I would really like the either the BF Goodrench AT, or even better The General Tire Grabbers x3. I had this same set up, same jeep, different one but same. Anyway the tire shop figured out what would fit. I only had a slight rub in the front fenders which was an easy grind down job with no further issue's. Problem is that was 15 maybe 20 years ago and I cant remember the size🤦🏼♂️. I'm more psyched about the General Grabbers because of the more aggressive look and seem more rounded if that makes sense..? Now in my mind the mechanic whose been working on my jeep should know the answers or atleast be able to figure it out....well it's been put on my shoulders to figure out and in complete lost. My jeep is done and ready to go except for the tire situation. So I could have gotten back a week ago if not for this,but it is what it is. So if ANYONE COULD PLEASE HELP ME AND PUT ME OUT OF MY MISERY IT WOULD BE GREATLY APPRECIATED!! ALSO IF YOU HAVE ANY BETTER IDEAS FOR TIRES YOU THINK WOULD WORK AND LOOK BETTER I AM MORE THAN OPEN TO ANY IDEAS! SO again what I have on now are LT 225/75/r16 and I'm just looking to go a size bigger to fill in the wheel wells better. Thank you in advance! The sooner I can find out the answers the sooner I get my baby back!👍🏻 Thank you for your time, Nick
@Scoobienorth2 жыл бұрын
Odds are it was a 245/75r16 or a 265/70r16. The common swap now is the 255/75r17 as they are rubicon take Offs and usually found cheap. They are taller though as require a little more trimming.
@QuadRicers2 жыл бұрын
Which is which?
@Scoobienorth2 жыл бұрын
The 700 is the one that loses. The silver limited edition.
@bradleyryan12302 жыл бұрын
I got a stock 2000 jeep grand cherokee laredo 4x4 and want 32inch mud tires on stock rims. Can I not just cut my front fenders and put a 1inch spacer on rear rims to push it away from my back shocks so it don't hit them? I'll also take my front bumper off if need be
@Scoobienorth2 жыл бұрын
You need to remove the front washer bottle, cut the front fenders, rear backspacing should be fine, the skinnier tires the Easier they are to Fit. The fog lights need to be cut out.
@szulik42 жыл бұрын
bad work
@Scoobienorth2 жыл бұрын
What’s part? The video or Jeeps? The red one I have been honest about from the start, it was for me to learn on. There’s so much misinformation , everyone says you need long arms, one tons and 40+ inch tires to go offroad. I did as much at I could with as little as possible. It works well for what it is. My video skills are lacking. I don’t do enough to get them where they should be
@Scoobienorth2 жыл бұрын
And further more the information in this video is very much correct, rarely talked about and factor very much into maximizing tire size under any vehicle but this one in particular. I had no ones it would garner nearly 40k views either
@joshuasalazar51062 жыл бұрын
I'll just keep my 32s
@immelting98342 жыл бұрын
Any videos on axles vs tire size ? Would like to know what's under both of those.
@Scoobienorth2 жыл бұрын
The white one is stock. The red one has a jk dana 30 up front, d44a stock rear, it had the stock d35 rear for a long time
@naughtyponyracing2 жыл бұрын
So 33x12.5 are probably are fine,
@Scoobienorth2 жыл бұрын
Depends on lift, bumpstop , offset off wheel and trimming thats been done or ready to do
@miketee24442 жыл бұрын
I've owned many CJs. Just got an 03 grand Cherokee by chance and I'm surprised how much I like it. Guess I'm getting old. What blows my mind is watching these things in the tough truck vids. How in the hell a Dana 30 or whatevers in the front of these things handles 4ft of air and continues to drive is a testiment to how well they handle abuse. I enjoy hearing info from someone I can tell knows. Thanks.
@jvida4052 жыл бұрын
awesome video, info and WJ's. Thanks
@buck6ify2 жыл бұрын
I'm running 33x12.5 15's on 15x8 -19mm offset rims to clear over knuckle steering. also running a 4 inch long arm lift and cutout fender flares. How is the gearing and breaking with those 37's?
@Scoobienorth2 жыл бұрын
Honestly the gearing sucks but I get by with it. Mostly manually shifting it to Keep rpms between 2-4500 rpm. There crawl ratio really sucks and hurts me sometimes offroad but I usually drive around it. It’s been fairly reliable as is and that’s more the goal The jk brakes up front helped a bunch but again it’s not great. I built it to snow wheel and it stops fine on ice and snow. It’s not unsafe with the brakes but definitely worse than stock.
@buck6ify2 жыл бұрын
@@Scoobienorth gotcha I've been considering 4.10 gears but maybe I'll hold off to see what 35" tires are like
@Scoobienorth2 жыл бұрын
@@buck6ify I’d go straight to 4.56 or 4.88 if I was regearing. I actually have 5.13’s in the shed for mine. The overdrive is very tall
@Scoobienorth2 жыл бұрын
You also need to remember the roads i was traveling are mountains , so 20-30km of 7-10% grades is fairly normal
@fiveseven1602 жыл бұрын
Brilliant video I’m about to use the same wheels to mount 255/70R17 and 2” coil spacers, do you think doing 2” bump stop extensions will minimize the cutting in the rear? I’m comfortable doing a little cutting in the front but nervous about the rear- it’s primarily a daily but I want to hit the off-road park as well Brilliant video dude
@Scoobienorth2 жыл бұрын
I only removed the fender liners and hammered the sharp edges back. I never cut the rear, they tuck, it doesn’t rub even at full flex with my 2” and 255’s on jk wheels
@fiveseven1602 жыл бұрын
@@Scoobienorth so I’m an off-road noob, my thought is that where I live the roads are salty and removing the liners is asking for trouble Will I be giving up too much performance if I do the bump stops to maintain the liners as much as possible?
@Scoobienorth2 жыл бұрын
@@fiveseven160 with the fender liners you’ll only fit a stock tire in the hole or minimally lager if you actually fully flex the vehicle
@fiveseven1602 жыл бұрын
@@Scoobienorth thanks for the tip. Wouldn’t the longer bump stops limit articulation and allow a larger tire without bashing the liner?
@Scoobienorth2 жыл бұрын
@@fiveseven160 yes it would but I think you’d have enough bumpstop to negatively effect the Jeep overall and make it worse.
@jchambers11912 жыл бұрын
Very good explanation - thanks for doing a great job of explaining your tire fitment.
@IWNTYU2 жыл бұрын
Getting ready to install Clayton 6 inch lift on 35's 12.5 r17. I'm just having a hard time on the back space.
@Scoobienorth2 жыл бұрын
4.25” backspace should be close enough for you. Most steel 17’s should be easy enough to find at that
@IWNTYU2 жыл бұрын
@@Scoobienorth thank you
@tylerdubois90202 жыл бұрын
Would you have been able to fit 33x10.5x17 on the silver WJ without spacers? Im currently running 255/75/17 but the tire I want comes in a 33x10.5x17, which is .5" wider and 1" taller. The height isn't the thing I am worried about, I am more worried about the width.
@Scoobienorth2 жыл бұрын
I’ve pounded my firewall back already so I suspect a 33 would rub when turning especially as it articulates. I think the 33 would also rub the frame when turning hard if it doesn’t hit the firewall. I don’t think the width would be much of an issue except possibly on the rear, which could be trimmed to stop that
@tylerdubois90202 жыл бұрын
@@Scoobienorth Thanks for the quick response. I think I am going to give the 33s a try, worst case scenario I will put on wheel spacers. Also I have a 3" lift, and in the rear I am putting a 3/8" coil spacer.
@immelting98342 жыл бұрын
@@tylerdubois9020 Any update, did you get it sorted out and what did you do ?
@tylerdubois90202 жыл бұрын
@@immelting9834 Still havent put larger tires yet. I have a 3" iron rock lift, going to put 3/8" spacer in the rear. I trimmed the front fenders and the rear I did piecuts. I then installed 1.25" hubcentric spacers. I dont see why the 33s wouldnt fit. Once I get a little more miles out of my current 32s I am going to upgrade.
@immelting98342 жыл бұрын
@@tylerdubois9020 I'm on 285/70/17 ( 32.8 x 11.3 ) with iron rock link long arms front and rear. 1.25 spacers . I'm at exactly 3.5 inches of lift with me , wife and camping gear, hidden winch synthetic rope. hacked up Stock bumpers ( less weight than heavy ass steel bumpers) . I cut and folded my front , then used a fender roller ( Eastwood) and rolled it all nice and was even able to " flare" it out a little.the rear was cut a little folded and JB welded the 2 rear fenders together. I have no rubbing.
@AM-we5bj2 жыл бұрын
I'm gonna fit 42"x15x17" tyres with Volvo portal axles and 7.55 gear ratios, air shocks and diy long arm kit. I think I need grind little more than that :D
@Scoobienorth2 жыл бұрын
Love to see the build and it in action. You’ll be cut at least as far as my red one. Portals are awesome.
@AM-we5bj2 жыл бұрын
@@Scoobienorth Maybe I make a build video series in youtube. I can post link here. Built starts maybe in few month
@Scoobienorth2 жыл бұрын
@@AM-we5bj even trying to film a bunch can be daunting and time consuming but even a few quick walk around updates would be great
@AM-we5bj2 жыл бұрын
@@Scoobienorth yeah. I believe that. But Im still trying to do that.
@newlion70132 жыл бұрын
I will have a 4" lift on my wj & I want to go 33" tire on 16X8 wheel. What offset would work best with that lift?
@Scoobienorth2 жыл бұрын
4.25” backspace is what I’d run for that setup
@306-fromthestix2 жыл бұрын
Can you tell me what the biggest 17 inch tire I can run on my stock wj no lift
@Scoobienorth2 жыл бұрын
Something like 245/65r17 I think. Equivalent to a 245/70r16.
@newlion70133 жыл бұрын
Thanx you helped me a lot!! You know your wj's, I see you have an imported one is it a crd?
@Scoobienorth3 жыл бұрын
It’s a 4.0L. I got a good deal on it and the parts are the same as my other one so it’s handy
@newlion70133 жыл бұрын
I just bought an '04 want to go 4" with 33" with a 16" rim. What rims & tires are you going with?
@Scoobienorth3 жыл бұрын
@@newlion7013 I find 4.25” backspace is pretty close to the sweet spot between balancing the tire sweep front to back (scrub radius) and clearance of the frame for steering
@Scoobienorth3 жыл бұрын
@@newlion7013 I’m using 37’s on a jk front diff in my wheeling rig with a 4” lift and I’m on 255/75r17 on factory jk wheels with a 2” lift and trimming up front
@306-fromthestix2 жыл бұрын
@@Scoobienorth good ol bulletproof 4.0
@717UT3 жыл бұрын
Fantastic video. I have a WJ with a 3" lift that I ran wrangler takeoffs for quite awhile. Now I run 265/70r17s on a 17x9 with I think 4.5" BS. Had to cut a little off the back of the front wheel well when I first put them on and Baja the front bumper. But, now I'm looking to fully cut and tuck all my fenders to step up to 285s on my next set of tires. I guess I'm trying to get the most out of my Jeep without going down the rabbit hole of a long arm kit etc.
@krroes3 жыл бұрын
This is the most Canadian video I have ever seen. Starts off with an apology & pronounces house as “hOOuse”
@jeffreystine70683 жыл бұрын
can i put a 285/70/17 on my jeep wj 99?
@Scoobienorth3 жыл бұрын
What’s done to it? Rim specs, trimming, suspension?
@jeffreystine70683 жыл бұрын
@@Scoobienorth NOTHING I THINK.. SORRY IM A WJ NOOB I JUST GOT HER. SHES A 4.7 LAREDO WITH THE ADDED Up Country Suspension Group SO I THINK IT GIVES IT A BIT OF A SMALL lift. I want to be able to add 17's because I cant find a set of decent looking second hands for her. Has the stock 16's now
@Scoobienorth3 жыл бұрын
@@jeffreystine7068 a 285 is a tough fit, stock about all you will fit is a 31” tire max and you’ll need some trimming. 32 with more trimming, ideally you’ll want about 4.25-4.5” backspace on the rims. Stock wrangler wheels like my white one fit though and easy enough to fit
@stealthyote3 жыл бұрын
great info. is your wj quadra-drive?
@Scoobienorth3 жыл бұрын
The white one has the awd system, but not the varilok diffs, the wheeling one has the select trac case but they have proven to be a big issue and unreliable
@bagchaser773 жыл бұрын
Can I fit 32x11.5x15 with minimum cutting ?????
@Scoobienorth3 жыл бұрын
Did you watch the video? How much lift, bumpstop do you have? Rim backspace? It all matters to answer the question. My white one in the video has 32x10.5 with 2” lift, stock bumps and clears but is cut and hammered up front
@stevenkelley32243 жыл бұрын
FINALLY someone saying lifts don’t give tire clearance
@stubbles80963 жыл бұрын
I just worked for a farmer for a few days and didn't except pay but instead he gave me 2 99 wjs 4.0 identical to yours I'm color 1 has motor issues and a good body the other was an insurance write off but good motor. I just got all the body Panels switched over and getting closer to on the road. I think your jeep is incredible and inspiring. I want to keep track of my build and do it as cheap as possible.
@Scoobienorth3 жыл бұрын
Thanks. Double check the motor issues. The wj 4.0 is known for breaking piston skirts and it’ll knock really bad but often it’s repairable and fairly easy and not that expensive to swap in better pistons. This rig of mine I did exactly that.
@stubbles80963 жыл бұрын
@@Scoobienorth knock hard or tick it kinda ticks a little aggressive but It settles once warmer a bit. I'd like to find a motor to rebuild slowly to learn more about engines I think the 4.0 is ideal for learning on.
@Scoobienorth3 жыл бұрын
@@stubbles8096 the broken piston skirt it’ll knock like a real cold diesel all the time, sounds like you might have rod knock if it’s ticking or bearings going. They are easy to work on though. They are forgiving motors so great to learn on
@stubbles80963 жыл бұрын
@@Scoobienorth thanks scoob
@ochocinco20303 жыл бұрын
What kind of bumper is that without the fog light cut outs I'm looking for one?
@Scoobienorth3 жыл бұрын
Both are stock bumpers with the fog lights cut out.
@717UT3 жыл бұрын
I like to call it the "Baja Special" cut. I did the same to my WJ.
@trevorthomas60433 жыл бұрын
What makes a big difference is adding adjusting track bars
@Scoobienorth3 жыл бұрын
Yes everything is tight enough that you need to make sure your tires are in the right place, at 2” lift it isn’t bad at all, any more though and you are losing.
@trevorthomas60433 жыл бұрын
Most people end up getting a 4 inch lift
@bugsnstuff56433 жыл бұрын
Have the same 17" rims with 265x70/17 DuraTracs, 3" lift, adjustable track bar and rear sway bar delete. Only trimmed front bumper. Front rub on lower control arm and rear rub on the shocks and just rub the paint off front and rear edge of rear wheel wells. Flexes very well and needs no metal trimming or clearancing.
@trevorthomas60433 жыл бұрын
@@bugsnstuff5643 that’s interesting I have a 4 inch lift 285x70x17 general grabber on my wj