The guy on the right seems to know what he's talking about. The guy on the left sounds like a pretender with a chip on his shoulder.
@adrianosbrandaoКүн бұрын
This video is fascinating, thank you so much! Could you discuss something like this, but using motifs from Wagner's Ring cycle?
@ThatGenericDude2 күн бұрын
Love the video. I have a theory about why the zarabande being profane became the stately sarabande. The theory is much like yours with what happened with the scherzo. The comedy in tragedy, et vice versa. In sarabande's case, the profanity of stately matters and/or the stately matters of the profane.
@TheMacabrees2 күн бұрын
Honestly I think Cantina band could’ve worked in the second movement. (With some modifications)
@paulsevenitz6163 күн бұрын
Better make star wars an opera
@DallasCrane3 күн бұрын
10:45 the temped music wasn’t King’s Row, it was the main theme to Ivanhoe. Kings Row has a coincidentally superficial connection to the Star Wars March majestic melody, but Ivanhoe has the dramatic form and presence that Lucas was looking for
@MusicaUniversalis3 күн бұрын
The plot thickens! Thank you. And somewhere I remember hearing about the Seahawk having some sort of connection to the music of Star Wars. I could be confusing something though.
@DallasCrane3 күн бұрын
@@MusicaUniversalis The Seahawk was referenced in Frank Lehman’s Hollywood Cadences essay, probably alongside John Williams’ Harry Potter and Star Wars music
@SMCwasTaken4 күн бұрын
I found the inspiration for Mario and Luigi battle music
@tmorganriley4 күн бұрын
Aside: when you abstract it, the first half of "Return of the Jedi" is just a Classical-era Turquerie rescue opera a la Mozart's "Abduction from the Seraglio", complete with ballet number.
@MusicaUniversalis4 күн бұрын
Great interpretation 😂
@jamesshim12074 күн бұрын
I feel like Williams' Star Wars would work better together as a tone poem like Strauss' Ein Alpensinfonie or Don Qixote, allows more freedom of form and introduction of more various themes, can name movements like a story.
@GlaceonStudios5 күн бұрын
If the Force theme, Leia theme, and Imperial motif are used together, you could do something like a three-key exposition, giving it a Schubertian/early romantic touch. Say, Force theme in Bb minor, Leia theme in Db major, and Imperial motif in F minor. Also kind of represents the whole three factions of the story too--Luke, Leia, and Vader/The Empire. Also, the Force theme as it's played at the burning homestead scene could almost function as a false recap in the Eb minor, just before the full recapitulation in Bb minor. Regarding the third movement... what if the cue where the Death Star blows up were used as the ending to that movement?
@MusicaUniversalis5 күн бұрын
Very interesting suggestions 👌🏻
@RedCaio5 күн бұрын
pls do this for all 9 John Williams scores for Star Wars 1-9
@RedCaio5 күн бұрын
please release the final movements like with like cross fades since otherwise it'd be a monumental task
@trialanderror90045 күн бұрын
This is fantastic! When I was a kid I asked myself the very same question and I decided to download as much of the Star Wars soundtrack as possible from the internet. I then edited all of it to form a coherent form. It ended up being around 1 and a half hours long and containing 5 movements. It took me a really long time to do it but it turned out very well.
@diegomaugeri40385 күн бұрын
Oh, but it is already a symphony, or rather an orchestral suite: The Planets by British composer Gustav Holst written around 1914-15. John Williams ransacked The Planets for his Star Wars score, you guys should listen to the original sometimes!..
@MusicaUniversalis5 күн бұрын
Somebody didn’t watch the discussion.
@zacharywhitney72955 күн бұрын
😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
@TheMacabrees3 күн бұрын
Wow I can’t believe they didn’t even address this in the video
@cerealbowl70385 күн бұрын
10:14 King's Row
@MusicaUniversalis5 күн бұрын
Thanks 🙏🏻
@ericwarncke6 күн бұрын
The perfect video for me
@maxjohn60126 күн бұрын
When's the three-hour conversation on sonata form coming out? :D
@SisselOnline6 күн бұрын
New video, finally owo❤
@ThatGenericDude6 күн бұрын
I clicked really fast when I got the notification lol
@gmfrunzik6 күн бұрын
Fr
@callenclarke3719 күн бұрын
This is a good episode. You could go deeper, though.
@jareshchan598710 күн бұрын
Thank you so much for these videos. I compose music at age 16 and have had piece played for schools. These videos greatly summarize the characteristics of types of music. I really admire the complex of the structure in pieces that seem so simple. I played a Scherzo by Schubert, and now being able to understand the structure makes me feel excited about music.
@sveinlarsen427510 күн бұрын
It is about time this wonderful opera gets respect!
@MusicaUniversalis9 күн бұрын
And yet, it still doesn’t! I don’t get it!
@callenclarke37111 күн бұрын
The ideas and conclusions articulated in these videos are clear, concise, and authoritative. Well done indeed.
@callenclarke37111 күн бұрын
This episode needs a sequel.
@callenclarke37111 күн бұрын
SPOT ON.
@callenclarke37112 күн бұрын
This is a marvelous find for me. I've been composing for almost fifty years, and, after a life time of exposure to these forms, I have an innate knowledge of the contours of the Baroque and Classical era dance forms. But you're absolutely right to say they get very short shrift both in the curriculum and the literature. I wrote a siciliana in a concerto some years ago. I got the basic idea right, I think, but it was from listening to them, not from any explicit knowledge. Having picked up the Baroque Lute recently, I've begun composing for that now, and in that effort this channel is an absolute boon. Thank you again for your fantastic content. Well done.
@callenclarke37112 күн бұрын
So many questions I've had for years answered in this one short video. Thank you for this.
@Jetstreamsammy14 күн бұрын
thanks dude just recently began writing my own music with pen and paper after playing the piano for over a year so this helped
@peterpan471314 күн бұрын
Which recording of Blue Danube did you used in this video
@organfairy14 күн бұрын
Musical quoting is a common theme in the works of the fictional P.D.Q. Bach - though it's taken to absurd levels. Speaking of Jeopardy, the composer of the theme tune to the Danish version of the game show, Bent Fabricius Bjerre, plagiarised one of his own songs - or "reworked" as he called it. But he didn't try to hide it and since he also wrote the first song it can hardly be called plagiarism.
@gmfrunzik15 күн бұрын
Some pieces have words Operas, songs, what have you
@victorziegler600115 күн бұрын
Hi, many thanks for this great video. I really appreciate the effort you put into linking this music style with the linguistics of the Polish language, fascinating!
@multi.instrumentalist16 күн бұрын
Idk why you added the scanline effect to all the text elements in the video but I appreciate it lol
@Kije.Jekyll16 күн бұрын
Merci! J'aurais tellement souhaité voir cette vidéo quelques années plus tôt... Cette question, cette "honte", m'a tourmenté pendant longtemps.
I would highly recommend looking into creating a video on the Ecossaise form, which I feel is an often overlooked dance form in classical music
@MusicaUniversalis27 күн бұрын
It’s planned. Already read through some articles about it and have some sources.
@LogicReel29 күн бұрын
Fun fact, the pampa region of southern Brazil and Uruguay also have their own version of Polka because of 1800s german migration.
@dikferrari139629 күн бұрын
Max Richter also used this progression.
@bret6484Ай бұрын
racism?
@MusicaUniversalisАй бұрын
Definitely part of it for sure, but you can watch the video for a more nuanced argument if you’re interested.
@glenrose7925Ай бұрын
There is a great little book on notating music called, A MUSIC NOTATION PRIMER. Written by a Hollywood studio copying. Small and easy to travel with for reference.
@Timothy-c4pАй бұрын
From what I remember of music history, the sonata form, (which is what the classical symphony is based on) started with the Italian overture. Where the overture form, I believe, was gradually expanded into separate sections with their own tempos. Which then evolved into three separate movements of music known as the sonata form. Starting with a fast movement, then followed by a slower movement, and ending with a movement of faster tempo. So with this in mind, it seems to me that any classical symphony that ends with a slow movement is necessarily incomplete. Which in Schubert’s case is not unusual. Since he left other symphonies unfinished. Therefore, I don’t think you can make the argument that Schubert’s 8th symphony is satisfactory as a two-movement work. It feels incomplete. And leaves wanting for something more. Something that will conclude. And something that will finish what it started.
@Cameron606Ай бұрын
these videos were so great to watch over the summer, sad I ran out of them. If you made a Patreon to post more of this style of content I would pay and I'm sure others would as well (if that makes it more worthwhile for you to make them)
@grindingthegearsofalltides4504Ай бұрын
Another great example comes from Kurt Atterbergs 6th Symphonie. The last movement has some jazz influences (as Atterbert stated himself in his autobiography), but he also mentioned that they were meant in a slightly ironic way. Still a amazing piece.
@michaelbaudinАй бұрын
But does a parallel octave or fifth breaks polyphony, while a parallel third, fourth or sixth does not? This is because the octave and the fifth are so close in the harmonic (Fourier) series, while the third, fourth and sixth are less. The human mind, as would a microphone, can distinguish more clearly sounds wich resonances are less close to each other.
@moonchild7456Ай бұрын
This was so entertaining and interesting. I only wish we could have seen more gigue dancing.
@kuxicaАй бұрын
Meanwhile I LOVE parallel fifths, sixths and thirds. 1:16