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@DownstreamV Сағат бұрын
One of my favorites in Colorado in a half or full slice!
@FeWolf Сағат бұрын
Beautiful area and run
@IraFowler3 2 күн бұрын
I somehow managed to flip it on the lower natty my first time 😅 user error & got laughed at by my crew lol
@DownstreamV 2 күн бұрын
I’m Not sure how that’s possible 😂😂😂
@theH2experience 2 күн бұрын
Nice video, super quick lap...and I'll add this to the things I'll never paddle.....probably.
@DownstreamV 2 күн бұрын
They are actually harder than most runs no shame in that. Deceiving because it’s roadside.
@FeWolf 2 күн бұрын
It seems very responsive, little lean goes long way.
@DownstreamV 2 күн бұрын
Oh yea for sure !
@WadeHarrison 2 күн бұрын
I sat in one at the Cheoah I consider this size a true small not to small not to big I feel that they nailed the sizes on the flowby
@DownstreamV 2 күн бұрын
Felt good to me and my chicken legs
@JustinMDavis 2 күн бұрын
@WadeHarrison What about the medium? I haven't had a chance to demo, but Jackson's website lists the maximum weight for the medium at 190, and I don't want to max it out since it will be my creek boat. I typically weigh in the 180's.
@stokestudioz 2 күн бұрын
I'd love to see you get the chance to take it on something bigger
@DownstreamV 2 күн бұрын
Buy me one 😂
@WadeHarrison 2 күн бұрын
@@DownstreamVhaha exactly what I say when I get that same comment
@macfawlty 2 күн бұрын
Curious how the medium compares to the Dagger Indra you’ve been paddling lately? So, you think the most direct comp is the LL RMX?
@DownstreamV 2 күн бұрын
The flow is more suited for creeking the Indra for big water.
@bradelliot1027 2 күн бұрын
dang..great footage...
@DownstreamV 2 күн бұрын
Thanks !
@macfawlty 3 күн бұрын
Very comprehensive analysis, particularly the paddling characteristics. How do you think it compares to the Jackson Flow?
@DownstreamV 3 күн бұрын
Flow more capable creek boat this is a more capable big volume down river boat. Thanks for the watch as always !
@ilps2878 3 күн бұрын
Man, really great review. I'm a dagger fan and have one on the way. I'm wondering how you compare it to the Reactr? I won't paddle my indra for atleast a week but 'm stoked watching all the vids. Thanks for the great review- when are you and Wade getting together for the 2023-2024 ww boat reviews?
@DownstreamV 3 күн бұрын
Thanks for the kind words! I can’t really paddle the medium react r it is too big for me to give it a fair review so I will have to wait until the small drops to compare. Yea we will have to do a pod once all these boats are done releasing !
@seanhogan563 3 күн бұрын
How dose it sit compared to the waka goat
@DownstreamV 3 күн бұрын
I would say quite a bit bigger overall. Definitely more punching power. Goat would feel easier to throw around but the goat is more of a true half slice so not really comparable .
@PALSRide 3 күн бұрын
I’ve been wondering when you would do a review on the Indra good video and information
@DownstreamV 3 күн бұрын
Thanks man yea wanted to give it a good go on a bunch of runs before posting.
@FeWolf 3 күн бұрын
interesting design, thx for posting
@DownstreamV 3 күн бұрын
Your welcome !
@WadeHarrison 3 күн бұрын
Solid review thanks for posting this!
@DownstreamV 3 күн бұрын
Thanks buddy !
@pnzrldr 3 күн бұрын
Ok, so I don't kayak. My time at the New River Gorge is dedicated to rock climbing, about which I am mildly fanatical. My stepbro lives in Richmond and is more mad about kayaking than I am about climbing. Although - his son climbs like a homesick mountain goat. You might know him - Todd V. Anyway, found your channel because you asked Metalhawk about using his LOTM Turns Metal in a vid. One of my all time fav's. When are you posting the video?
@DownstreamV 3 күн бұрын
This was actually to commemorate a 15 year that died tragically. It was just a reel on Instagram. Just thought the song was perfect.
@MicajahMcCurry 3 күн бұрын
You know you can move that outer hook inward too?
@DownstreamV 3 күн бұрын
Yes
@cloudburst1215 4 күн бұрын
Cool that for this walkthrough! How does the plastic clasp hold up? I have a Select two piece paddle and the attachment piece is plastic, it has broken repeatedly. Having the ability to take it apart and adjust the length, is so helpful. Unfortunately I found the Select paddle to be heavy and unreliable, and moved on to a Werner Shogun. The Shogun is bomber and quite lite, and can be used for downriver or playboating.
@DownstreamV 4 күн бұрын
I have not used the 2-piece yet but wade has pretty extensively and no issues with the clasp that I know of. I am not a fan of select paddles the indexing is wierd and they are super heavy.
@MatthewBrookKayaking 4 күн бұрын
How does it hold up? The curve at the base of the blade was often a weak point on the Odachi, for instance, and this looks even more pronounced/sharp. Be interested to see how it holds after some regular use.
@DownstreamV 4 күн бұрын
I’ve used the one piece for over a year and zero issues
@MatthewBrookKayaking 4 күн бұрын
@@DownstreamV alright, nice. That's good to hear. They certainly look lovely!
@davet9633 4 күн бұрын
Nice vid...right into one of the nastiest holes on the Ark. :) Numbers are not correct, started w/ what was labeled 2 - is actually 1.5.
@DownstreamV 4 күн бұрын
Thanks yea I went for the meat. Did my best on the numbers thanks for the info.
@Mourningwoodadv 4 күн бұрын
Nice flow dude!
@DownstreamV 4 күн бұрын
Thanks !
@followingrj 4 күн бұрын
Been using a Werner powerhouse for a while now. Still trying to decide between the arca works and the aquabound. Aquabound price is insane but I hear it’s very durable and I hear great things about the Vulcan too so I’m not sure which one to get. Right now I’m doing a lot of play boating not so much river running
@DownstreamV 4 күн бұрын
If you are playboating I would say go for aquabound. The forward blade design is really meant for river running and creeking and will take a toll on the blade and your wrists. If you’re going aquaboud spend the extra for the carbon it’s worth it. Hit up wren at NOC for a Matt wallin discount. River running I would absolutely say the arca works.
@followingrj 4 күн бұрын
@@DownstreamV i was actually thinking the same logic but you just confirmed it. I appreciate the advice, thanks.
@TheOfficialDOP 4 күн бұрын
I see you’re using the aqua bound a lot more lately
@DownstreamV 4 күн бұрын
Doing a long term review. But it’s a solid paddle for sure but very expensive.
@TheOfficialDOP 4 күн бұрын
@@DownstreamV yeah the price is definitely not great
@bradelliot1027 5 күн бұрын
ninja versus indra? i heard you mention you wish you had had the ninja instead of the indra on your trip to Colorado...i just got a ninja and definitely experienced the drag and flip on rocks...hit a f u rock on the ocoee and at first i expected the bow to just ride up over it which it did but next thing i knew i was bracing to stay alive...the stern kind of acted like you said it would...other than that this boat was fun to paddle...but it did not like the manky creek lines on the ocoee..:(
@DownstreamV 5 күн бұрын
I prefer the ninja overall. The Indra is not much better on rocks it’s more of the same type of flowy river boat not really made for the southeast.
@bradelliot1027 5 күн бұрын
@@DownstreamV so you don't think the ninja is a good southeast boat?..:(
@DouglasMiller98 5 күн бұрын
Awesome footage!
@DownstreamV 5 күн бұрын
Thanks !
@bradelliot1027 6 күн бұрын
pretty...:)
@DownstreamV 6 күн бұрын
Yep!
@theH2experience 7 күн бұрын
Big Ole Nope Rope!
@DownstreamV 7 күн бұрын
Wade tried to throw it on me and break my ankle. I actually like snakes but not one thrown on me
@theH2experience 7 күн бұрын
@@DownstreamV Yeah, I was shocked to See Wade toss it at ya! LOL I would have been done for the day man! At least I have an open boat for any poo that my have been left in my pants could have washed away. Nice footage, looks like a great trip out there for you all! Hopefully Wade will not cause any more trauma for you.
@noellewilhite3479 7 күн бұрын
Thanks Matt! This is great! Not too many POV videos of the rustics out there and your quality is amazing. So good hanging with you guys in Colorado 🔥
@DownstreamV 7 күн бұрын
No problem! Fun run !
@AndreasWenk-jl6xe 7 күн бұрын
Hey Matt. Thanks for the review. Any comments on being a smaller paddler? I'm a short skinny boater, 135 lbs, and looking at this. Don't like the boxiness of the chili. Own a Five and it's amazing. You think the ninja is too much boat for sub 140 lb paddlers?
@DownstreamV 7 күн бұрын
It’s pretty wide for a smaller paddler but I wouldn’t say it’s huge necessarily it’s worth a shot if you can find a demo .
@brentwade9346 9 күн бұрын
Nice!!!!
@Redzircon 9 күн бұрын
I think your review is the most refreshingly honest non-hyped, non BS review I have found. So many are "this is the best perfect agile boat ever", and I'm really tired of them. I cannot test a boat out. So thanks. Question: With all my gear I weigh about 190lbs, so I am thinking I'll need a large. I've come from a Zen 2 Medium, and it started to feel like the bow was too big and sometimes not loose enough surfing a hole. (BTW I'm not an expert paddler, staying with II and sometimes III.) How would paddling a medium at the upper edge of the weight range affect things? Much appreciated. Stefan Australia
@DownstreamV 9 күн бұрын
Appreciate the kind words there. Regarding your question that’s tough for me to answer being at my weight. I can’t find specs on the old zen but it seems it’s about 79 galls and the flow is 77. It is a great surfing creek boat as it has a playboating hull on it. I would say you’re right on the edge of medium and needing a large. I honestly can’t say which one to go for. I would reach out to Wade Harrison as he is about 180. If he felt good in medium go for the smaller boat as your not paddling anything crazy anyway.
@barnaclebill1615 10 күн бұрын
How were u going to access your fox 40 whistle while attached to the zipper pocket? Overall nice comparison… thanks! 👍👍😁🇺🇸
@DownstreamV 10 күн бұрын
Pretty easy ! Do it all the time !
@huntergipson3447 11 күн бұрын
That rapid is one of the nastiest I’ve ever seen in person 👀☠️
@DownstreamV 11 күн бұрын
I’m assuming poudre falls ? Yea it’s bad. Until I saw lake creek at 1000cfs…
@FeWolf 12 күн бұрын
bullwinkle and rocky approve this video🙃
@DownstreamV 11 күн бұрын
lol
@WadeHarrison 12 күн бұрын
Some stout flows to be had in there!
@DownstreamV 5 күн бұрын
Lake creek😮
@WadeHarrison 12 күн бұрын
Any moose 🫎 out there😉
@DownstreamV 11 күн бұрын
Yea couldn’t see him on go pro unfortunately even though he was huge
@WadeHarrison 12 күн бұрын
Needs more water 🎉 hahah I kinda purposely slowed at pine hole for the key fob line 😅
@WadeHarrison 12 күн бұрын
Another great side creek knocked off the list good rally on this one
@DownstreamV 12 күн бұрын
Been hearing castle creek for a year now lol!! Glad we got it !
@WadeHarrison 12 күн бұрын
Awesome day glad we got to knock this one off the list..
@DownstreamV 12 күн бұрын
Poudre falls and rocket launcher next time 😂
@PaulD70 12 күн бұрын
Looks like Upper Rustic to me? The road is on River left the entire time. With Lower it starts on the right, departs from the road, then passes under it into Grandpa’s Gorge, but it’s mostly not visible. Takeout for Lower is usually Eggers or Century Park.
@DownstreamV 12 күн бұрын
Yep was thinking the wrong thing
@bradelliot1027 13 күн бұрын
nice...looks a little rowdy...:)
@FORTRANWW 13 күн бұрын
What mirrorless are you shooting on?
@DownstreamV 13 күн бұрын
Sony a7s3 I also use a Sony a7r5 at times
@FORTRANWW 13 күн бұрын
@@DownstreamV you dawg those are both absolutely insane cameras
@DownstreamV 13 күн бұрын
@@FORTRANWWyea I use the r5 for photography mostly but the s3 is really nice to grab 120fps at 4k
@GurkeundMoehre 14 күн бұрын
Wow 😮👍
@aarontorian 15 күн бұрын
I'm set on getting a Flow soon but torn between what size... I'm 5'10" and I hover around 145-150 lbs. I'm smack in the middle of the weight range for either boat really but I don't wanna feel too big in it or lose the sportiness I keep hearing about, having to muscle it around. I just sold a Mamba 7.6 that I loved and was in a Z3 Medium for my first boat and I felt a bit small in that boat... any guidance or help is appreciated! I'm in AR where we don't have the luxury of demoing, at least not often unfortunately
@DownstreamV 15 күн бұрын
Z3 medium is huge. I usually paddle small size boats and the medium flow fits the bill as a perfect small/medium. I would definitely get a medium if you are wanting to paddle some harder whitewater. It would feel small compared to a medium zen3 for sure.
@aarontorian 15 күн бұрын
@@DownstreamV thanks for the quick reply!! I'll heed your advice and roll with the M. Thanks again!!
@GurkeundMoehre 15 күн бұрын
😮👍
@daviddeleskyhhjhhjjhjh9391 15 күн бұрын
I take it you like the indra and wade likes the reactor better? Great video.
@DownstreamV 15 күн бұрын
Medium reactR is way too big so I’ll have to wait until the small comes out for me. He does like that boat !
@WadeHarrison 12 күн бұрын
I like both for different reasons 😊
@bradelliot1027 15 күн бұрын
do you need to pivot turn to turn this boat? if not what strokes do you use to turn it? thanks
@DownstreamV 15 күн бұрын
You can but not absolutely necessary. It will turn with normal left and right stokes.
@bradelliot1027 16 күн бұрын
congrats..you think i will be good to go at 6'2'' 200 lbs on the ocoee, cheoa, upper yough, chattogga, s. sauty, tellico etc...class III-IV in the southeast thanks brad
@DownstreamV 16 күн бұрын
In the ninja ?
@bradelliot1027 16 күн бұрын
@@DownstreamV yes...paddling a 4 fun...used to paddle a jefe and king pin...hate the zen, mamba...do you have to pivot turn to turn this boat?
@scottgraham3071 17 күн бұрын
Pine crashed right on top of you too . Nice work. Love watching wade paddle!!
@DownstreamV 17 күн бұрын
Thanks i appreciate it !