I can't see any reason why it wouldn't work with the ISDT Q8. It works with any charger. Of course a charger power output will be a determining factor of the charging speed but any charger will work with the adapter. Essentially the charger will see your 4 batteries connected in parallel as a one bigger battery. Hope that makes sense. Of course if you want to charge 6s batteries your charger has to support 6s charging, which Q8 does of course.

@@czajuniapawulonik3148 Thanks for your reply, helps a lot :)

Hmm.... I am not sure I understand what would be a purpose of that if I am being honest :-) Why would you use a parallel adapter like that on your scooter?

Hey! Yes I'm familiar with the board. Never used it though so can't comment. From what I remember the initial version of his boards were not the best but they have been improved and the latest version is very good. I'm sure there are plenty of reviews out there.

It has never happened to me so can't really comment. Maybe other users can chip in. Hopefully it would trip one of the fuses or stop the charging altogether on the charger due to battery cell number mismatch. The reason they call it a safe adapter is due to the inclusion of additional fuses on the board (rather than a single, main one on cheaper boards). If you watch the video there is a quick comparison between 3 different adapters each offering different approach to the safety at different price point. Ultimately in case of parallel charging is the user knowledge and experience that makes the biggest difference when it comes to safety in my opinion. Having said so I always welcome additional features that this board provides.

No, I'm not. It would be nice if you could at least watch a video / read the comments before posting. Plus, as I said, I normally don't charge batteries at such speed anyway. It was just to make the video quicker and I was literally a few inches away during the process. But hey, thanks for your input.

I normally charge at 1C only (x1 if you prefer to use that term). Well, unless I'm in a rush. I might go to anywhere between 2C-3C then (x2-x3). In the video I was just trying to quickly show the charging process using higher current. Also, you need to remember that when you charge batteries in parallel their capacity from the charger point of view is the sum of all connected batteries. It just sees those multiple batteries as a single larger one. So charging 2 x 0.85Ah batteries in parallel with 0.9A would mean that you effectively charge them at around 0.5C (x0.5). In the same manner I wasn't charging my batteries at 6C (x6). It was more like 3.5C(x3.5) or so. Hope that makes sense. Also, please remember this is not a tutorial about lipo parallel charging. It's merely an overview of a parallel charging adapter.

@@czajuniapawulonik3148 OK thanks. So I can be charging 4 1300mah at 5.2 and I would be going at 1amp, which is the normal rating. I was charging them way to slow being paranoid.

@@RixFPV Yes, that's correct. If you charge 4 x 1.3Ah batteries in parallel at 5.2A you will be charging them at 1C (or as you call it x1 speed). Essentially, for your charger it looks as if you were charging one 5.2Ah battery. So if you were charging your 4 batteries at 1.3A you were charging them at 0.25C. It must have taken over 4 hours to charge them like that. I must say you have a lot of patience :-)

@@czajuniapawulonik3148 Perfect, thank you very much for the clarification.

@@RixFPV No problem. Glad I've managed to help a bit. 👍

You can use it with any charger. No problem. Just make sure you are familiar with LiPo parallel charging in general.

@@czajuniapawulonik3148 Thanks. I will watch the one video from Joshua about that.

It's called Revoelectrix MPA. However I've just checked the revoelectrix website and it looks like they might have discontinued the 6 cell adapter and replaced it with a 4-cell adapters: www.store.revolectrix.com/Products/MPA Unless it's just temporarily unavailable.

Well of course, saving 3 dollars makes no sense but it's not always about the money. (And if you have to buy a soldering iron on top of that it makes even less sense.) Plus I only had to pay for the jack as I had all other parts lying around and on top of that I didn't have to wait 2-4 weeks for an adapter to arrive on a slow boat. Anyway, money aside, I still think it's a very nice and simple DIY project. Also, at the end of the video there is a tutorial how to actually update the firmware regardless what device is used.

Hey! Thanks for watching and keeping the video alive. Unfortunately the JB boards you mentioned were not quite available 3 years ago when I reviewed the PC-4860. :-) Plus, ISDT products have never been cheap, really. These aside I believe they are slightly different products. The JB adapter is a dedicated 4s board whereas ISDT can be used to parallel charge any multicell battery (2s - 8s) so even though you can charge significantly less batteries at the same time you get slightly more versatile product. Also, ISDT uses resettable polyfuses as well. As for the voltmeter I believe this is a bit of gimmick feature as you get voltage readings on the charger anyway. Totally agree that JB adapter is a great product (not the version1 though) but it all depends what a potential user is after. If I was after a dedicated 4s board I would pick the JB V2 as well.

@@czajuniapawulonik3148 Well said!

@@czajuniapawulonik3148 The JB has 3s, 4s, 5s, 6s products.

@@Ozzy3333333 Oh yes, I am aware of that. Thanks for pointing this out. I only mentioned 4s as an example. However, that potentially means buying several products which might not be ideal for some ppl. Which also makes it less of a bargain unfortunately. Again, it all depends what works better for a user.

@@czajuniapawulonik3148 If you buy the 6s version and simply snip the balance connector plastic(the side with the locking tabs), then it becomes 1 to 6s board with more protection and thermal tape indicator on the polyswitches indicating a issue, the isdt does not have, or the voltmeter or the 10 ports or the lower cost. :}

Thanks for watching. Glad you liked it. Didn't think people were still watching these videos as they were published a while ago.

Pleasure. I'm glad you like it.

I have no problems charging Eneloops. Most of my rechargeable batteries are Eneloops actually. Why do you think it wouldn't work well with them?

I am not sure which board exactly you are referring to but I can't see a reason why it wouldn't work if we had a BattGO battery connected to a compatible device. Of course, if we only had a 6S charger for example it most likely won't work properly with an 8S battery when it comes to charging even though it might still show the individual cell voltages thanks to the BattGO chip. It's hard to tell and this is pure speculation as I haven't tested it and have no way to perform such a test simply because there are no 8S BattGO batteries on the market. Also, I don't see anyone installing an extra BattGO chip on 1S or 2S batteries as that wouldn't make much sense considering the extra weight on such small cells. Definitely doable but not practical. Having said all above this is not relevant, really, as it doesn't look like the technology has been adopted by the industry and there are still only two 4s batteries available on the market after almost a year since the tech was introduced. Luckily the ISDT products are very good and perform well. Which means that even though the inclusion of BattGO technology will not be relevant to most potential users it shouldn't be a deciding factor when picking a charger.

Your answer is at 8min 20sec. And YES, you can limit power input on those chargers. Hope that helps.

Yes you do, it's one of the principles of parallel charging

My enlish is bad can i charge Batterys with NOT Same Voltage and different mAh?

@@mauritz1774 no

Pleasure. Glad you enjoyed the review.

Pleasure. Glad you liked it. Once you get it please let us know how you get on with the tester and if it meets your expectations.

czajunia pawulonik - sure thing. Thanks

Tak mozna. Trzeba tylko pamietac zeby liczba cel (napiecie) w ladowanych bateriach byla taka sama.

Super dziękuję chodziło mi o to że mam 3 pakiety li po 11 V ale każdy ma inną pojemność i czyli mogę ładować jednocześnie te pakiety

Tak, mozna. Osobiscie rowniez laduje w ten sposob i nie ma problemu. Nalezy ozcywiscie pamietac zeby pakiety byly rozladowane do podobnego poziomu. Ale to dotyczy ladowania rownoleglego ogolnie a nie tylko w przypadku bateri o roznych pojemnosciach.

I'm not sure if this matters here since you should be connecting batteries before charging starts.

Well it does matter, as the batteries will equalize voltage over balance ports if you do it like this. This is strictly forbidden in all parallel charging guides I have read, because the current could be too high for these thin cables. However with ISDT having these fuses and 2A limit there it might be a different story and I'm not sure how should it be connected.

Yeah, but assuming you plug them without much delay it won't make a difference. The batteries should be discharged to the similar level anyway so there won't be any voltage drops or anything. I'm fairly certain I plugged the batteries either way and had no problems. But I can double check that for you if you are still concerned.

What do you mean withh "delay"?

Sorry for not being clearer. What I meant was that you plug them all at the same time essentially, before starting to charge them. I can be mistaken, but as I mentioned already, I don't think that matters anyway due to the way the parallel charging works and the way the parallel chargers are wired inside. I have just tried connecting my batteries both ways and didn't see any abnormalities. Out of curiosity, why do you think it actually makes a difference whether you plug the balance lead first or the other way round?

XT60. None of ISDT chargers come with XT30 connector as far as I am aware.

Thx!

Agree. That's super strange as the Q6 Plus gets regular updates.

Sorry for the late reply. Somehow I missed the question. As Patriot Games mentioned already you can use whatever meets your power requirements and lies within the specified input voltage. The higher the voltage of the PSU the better as the charger will run cooler and you can charge bigger cells quicker. Personally I hardly ever charge bigger batteries than multiple 1500 mAh 4S. For that purpose my main PSU is ISDT CP16027 reviewed here: kzbin.info/www/bejne/ZoOsgniPbJaHkLM It gen easily provide 200W so it's perfect for my needs. I have also converted a server PSU (HP DPS-600PB) which was a super easy job and I use it occasionally if I need more power. It's a bit a long and forgotten project of mine as I purchased 2 of those to make a 24V PSU but never got round to finishing it. There is a very good RCGroups thread/tutorial if you are into this kind of things: www.rcgroups.com/forums/showthread.php?1581061-DPS-600PB-Builds-hints-tips-and-build-plans

Thanks! Glad you liked it.

Agreed. Especially if using more than one battery.

Pleasure. I'm glad you enjoyed the review.

@@czajuniapawulonik3148 can i use it for battery pack NiMh? thanks

@@fulviomichelutti5669 Yes, you can. Pls check the full specification at the beginning of the video (around 1min in). I have never used it for this purpose though as I have another dedicated charger to check NiMh batteries which is much easier to use in terms of connecting batteries. I use this one mainly for checking LiPos.

@@czajuniapawulonik3148 Thanks for Your support, i checked and i understood but any way of course you can not balance the NiMh, just check the total volts, Correct? can you discharge the NiMh?

@@fulviomichelutti5669 I don't have any multicell NiMh batteries and to be honest have never come across them. Only use single cells so of course there is no balancing necessary. Unfortunately you cannot discharge batteries using this product. It's mainly a battery checker with a few extra features.

Great! I'm glad you've found it useful.

Jak masz kase to polecam. Dobry produkt w sumie i solidnie zrobiony. Uzywam juz dosc dlugo i nie mialem zadnych problemow a roznie to bywa. Oczywiscie mozna kupic podobny (ok150W) zasilacz do laptopa pewnie za pol ceny wiec jezeli szukasz takiej mocy to zawsze jest tansza opcja. 230W na stale bym nie polecal bo pewnie padnie szybciej niz powinien. 230W to jest jakis tam limit. Bardziej realnie tak kolo 200W. Musisz pamietac ze jest to zasilacz oficjalnie sprzedawany jako 160W - to ze mozna wycisnac wiecej to jakis tam plus ale jak to wplywa na komponenty to nie wiem. Wydaje mi sie ze do 200W powinno byc bezpiecznie.

Patrzyłem na zasilacz do xboxa(chyba) ma 225 wat. Używam isdt q6, właśnie szukam coś co bede używał na codzień do ładowania telefonu(przeróbka-wyjście z baterii na zewnatrz i mam szybke ładowanie itp). Ale też mam hulajnogę elektryczną i po przeróbce by mi właśnie pasowało coś co da 200-250 wat przez jakieś pół godziny do godziny, a jednocześnie bedzie na tyle małe, że zabiore to ze sobą wszędzie. Musze to przemyśleć

Wiesław1956, nie wiem jak duży/dobry jest zasilacz do Xboxa. Jako przenośny zasilacz, żeby że sobą wozic, to ISDT zdecydowanie daje rade bo jest bardzo mały. Prawie kieszonkowy jak masz duże kieszenie :) Mysle ze jak będziesz od czasu do czasu ladowal w okolicach 220-230W przez krótki czas to raczej nic się nie stanie. Problem może być tylko taki jeżeli przypadkiem odbiornik będzie pobierał więcej niż, powiedzmy 240W - wtedy będzie Ci się rozlaczal. Nie wiem jak ładujesz ta hulajnoge, ale jeżeli używasz ładowarki ISDT to oczywiście możesz ograniczyć maksymalny pobór mocy i gdybyś mial problemy to zawsze możesz trochę obniżyć prąd ładowania. Będzie się ciut dłużej ładować ale przynajmniej będziesz miał maly i cichy zasilacz.

Yes, I know which product you are referring to. No, I haven't tried that one. Have you had chance to measure what kind of max power output the USB port can provide? The specification says it's QC3 compatible and it should provide 3A@5V which is really cool. The only AOKoda product I own is the discharger I mentioned in the the review. Have been using it for a while without any issues. It performs quite well. The balancing takes a while but if I want to quickly discharge a battery I just select a bit lower voltage and don't bother with the balancing. It's not as polished as ISDT discharger and the naked bulbs need be taken care of but based on my experience I would say that AOKoda is not bad at all, especially considering the price.

Pleasure. Glad you found it useful.

Well spotted. Thanks for pointing this out. I think you may be on to something here. To be honest I am not sure actually how this can affect the fan speed. That probably depends how much heat converting 12V to higher voltage generates at given power output. I would imagine if that was something that could negatively affect the performance ISDT would make sure that input voltage needs to be >= than output voltage. I have another 12V server PSU lying around somewhere so if I find it and have time to build a 24V PSU I will give it a go to see if there is any difference. In the meantime maybe others can chip in. EDIT: Just to get an idea I have run my smaller PSU that can supply 27V (less power though) and compared it to the same power output on 12V. I had input power limited to 240W in both cases. I was using the same 6S battery and the indicated power output on the T8 was 225W. The charger starting temperature was roughly the same in both cases. On 27V after about 5min 30sec the charger reached 60 degrees. The fan started running quite loud (at the same speed as in the video) but it managed to bring the temperature down to 50C. At about 9 minutes and 30 seconds the charger reached 61C again. After that I ran another test this time with the 12V PSU (also limited to 240W). This time the charger reached 60C after only 3minutes and 30 seconds. The fan kicked in brought the temperature down to 53C (seemed like it was spinning a bit slower than when I used 27V input). At around 6 minutes the temperature reached 61C again. At around 9 minutes we were back to 61C once again. So that means that feeding higher voltage will definitely improve the temperature control on the charger. There is a noticeable difference on the lower power output at around 225W. Which means there should definitely be some improvement when the power output climbs higher. I am not sure how big the improvement will be though since the temperatures will also get higher due to outputting more power.

Thank you. I am glad you enjoyed it.