Hi Jonet. Thank you for your comment. When I am on top I only think about delivering as much damage as possible and getting up. It is not a great idea to stay on top of him or to try and control him with a knee etc. There is a belt/rope/strap around my neck and I will need to remove that as fast as possible and also be in a position to get away or fight a secondary attack.
@jonetsteenkamp379824 күн бұрын
When your on top of him, do you sit with your knee on his throat and arm? Because his hands are going to be free by then.
@electricchef686Ай бұрын
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@stevenswitzer5154Ай бұрын
I can think of 4 defenses as a highschool wrestler
@TruekravTrainingАй бұрын
@@stevenswitzer5154 thank you for your comment. Yes there are many defences and I am a massive fan of wrestling (I feel that Wrestling is severely under-rated) However keep in mind that this is a Self-Defence approach where I often have to worry about multiple attackers and also avoid ending on the ground. Also, I teach this to Law enforcement who often carry firearms. They need to get out and acces their fire-arms. Last, in wrestling illegal strikes are not permitted. It would be stupid not to use illegal strikes if there is no ruleset. Hence the fact my defence is the way it is. But I agree that there are a great options in wrestling
@vindee56702 ай бұрын
Interesting take on this. I can see in the video how it would be better going forward than backwards. What I would really like to see is you attacking the other guy with resistance and not stopping your attack, and see how he defends himself using the same move(s). Reason being is that you clearly have a size advantage. I'm not asking this to debunk anything, I just want to see what the reality would be in that scenario.
@WayneAustin-f3u2 ай бұрын
Why would a man that is knocked out hold on to the gun?
@jeffreyplumley95432 ай бұрын
Seriously though, the reality of it is this, when you grab that gun your hand is over the slide and the bad guy is going to instinctively pull that trigger, which is going to jam that pistol. Your premise is simply ill thought, but thanks for trying
@TruekravTraining2 ай бұрын
@jeffreyplumley9543 you are quite defensive about a technique that I clearly show the pitfall in. Do you know of anyone who pulled this technique off when resisted ? I know of quite a lot of Krav practitioners who tried this at their trial session at my school and failed. Thank goodness for them it was not a real attack, BTW, also what if the attacker does not pull the trigger ? Also so what if he does and there is a jam, that does not incapacitate the attacker. He can simply slap, rack and shoot. Then lastly, how sure are you that the attacker can't fight ? look at anyone attempting this disarm and you will see that the attacker can easy fight back, especially because you inevitably drop both hands with a bad body position and in range of a simple counter. Nice try though
@jeffreyplumley95432 ай бұрын
@ your assumptions are frankly silly as you can never assume anything about how the gunman will react. You can gameplan all you want but the reality is that every technique or action has a counter to it that can stop said technique from working. We can train together and I’ll show you how your assumptions that your ideas are somehow foolproof or at least better are silly and you’re going to get people hurt with your nonsense.
@TruekravTraining2 ай бұрын
@ I will get far less people hurt than with the nonsense you think works. Send me an address where you train and I will try my best to make it there. I give seminars all over the world so I am bound to be relatively close somewhere in the next 12 months 👍
@jeffreyplumley95432 ай бұрын
@@TruekravTraining ok sport. You do you and all that. Thanks for the laughs. If only you were in the Atlanta metro so your students could train at a better school
@daniel-lee8882 ай бұрын
Agree the "old" technique of pushing the muzzle with one hand is a weak technique and should not be taught. The improved response is one hand on the gun and the other hand in the rear as a clamp while redirecting the muzzle and attacking. It would have been good to see more iterations of solutions.
@TruekravTraining2 ай бұрын
Hi @Daniel-lee888 Thank you for your insightful comment. The improved response that you described means having both your hands down, with you in range and in a very vulnerable position to be countered. Also keep in mind that the attacker would have sustained no significant damage up to that point and will definitely have a reflex and fight back like hell. wether it is the "old" technique or "improved" technique, it still remains ineffective against resistance. About showing a solution : You are correct, I could have spent more time explaining my solution. I did however not want to make an instructional. I just wanted to make people aware of the dangers of a very "popular" technique. I do briefly show a solution but I will post a full instructional today and link it to this video. All the best and thank you for watching.
@mikael32012 ай бұрын
You use more than half the video explaining what not to do 🤦🏻
@TruekravTraining2 ай бұрын
@mikael3201 yes that is true because the video was about making people aware of the ineffectiveness of a commonly taught technique. it was not an instructional about what to do.
@mikael32012 ай бұрын
@TruekravTraining ok, I guess I am not the target group for this one.
@crimsonfalcon072 ай бұрын
You didn't actually do that defense even remotely correctly. Multiple errors, including some really egregious ones. If you're going to do that particular one, muzzle should get redirected towards the attacker and essentially welded to their body. "True Krav" would know it needs to follow RCAT. You failed at the C, because your version doesn't actually control the weapon before you attack. While I also have issues with it, you lose all credibility if you're not even going to do the technique by the book.
@TruekravTraining2 ай бұрын
I actually have a member who had to do a gun disarm when he was hijacked at a fuel station in Cape Town. I would argue that neither you, nor any one of your students (if you instruct) have ever done “your correct version” in reality. Before you want to take on my credibility I suggest lets start with that first 😉👍
@crimsonfalcon072 ай бұрын
@TruekravTraining you'd actually be wrong on that. I've actually personally survived 3 active shooter situations, and been in quite a few more incidents, thanks to my work. But that's immaterial, because, no matter the subject, you can't critique something that you're not doing correctly. That's like saying "these people say that 1+1=5, and they're wrong", when they actually don't say that at all. Literally textbook fallacy (straw man). In order to debunk something, you have to get it right first. Also, "one of my members"? Really? Might as well say "I know a guy". That's also, textbook, by the way. (Appeal to personal). Just because you (or "a member of yours") has been in a situation, doesn't change the FACT that you didn't perform the technique correctly in your demo. The fact that you don't understand that merely further illustrates your lack of credibility. If you don't have the redirect correct, and keep weight on it, you don't have control, and the attacker can easily just yank back and you'll be in the line of fire again, because you violated the core Krav principle of RCAT. If you don't know what that is, you have no business critiquing it. That being said, because the success of the technique depends on a nuance like that, which is in my opinion closer to fine motor control, it's not the best simply because people like you will see it, copy it incorrectly, and get themselves killed. That's why I prefer the right side redirect technique, if I'm going to use one from Krav Maga. SMH, "one of my members".
@TruekravTraining2 ай бұрын
@crimsonfalcon07 I might not do the technique perfectly but I probably do it better than 90% of everyone that does krav. I actually showed a way better way of disarming the weapon at the end but you are completely silent on that. I have no problem demonstrating that this technique is BS on any Krav Maga expert out there. And that includes you 👍
@crimsonfalcon072 ай бұрын
@@TruekravTraining maybe because 90% of people that "do Krav" are McDojo types that don't actually do Krav, just like you. And the majority of the people practicing are also beginners. So that's an utterly meaningless claim to make. I agree that the technique, as you do it, is BS. But it's also not Krav Maga at all, as it violates several core principles. The simple fact is that you're using Krav Maga for clout, but don't do the technique correctly, making whatever you have to say worthless. Take your machismo attitude to Wingate and try your nonsense with the instructors there. Post the results, if you dare. If you are going to critique something, you need to begin from a position of competence. Otherwise you're no different from other channels that are rank amateurs, post up, say, a punch that's technically flawed, and then claim to critique it. If you actually have something of value to offer, you need to get the technique right FIRST. Otherwise you're going to get this type of comment. And your inability to take ownership for your mistake really highlights that there's no need for anyone to think there's anything of value, because you continue to demonstrate that you know nothing of what Krav Maga actually teaches, and your channel seems to depend on that. Now, if your thought was to critique the flawed copycat techniques coming from fraudulent places that claim to represent Krav Maga, indeed. But you aren't any different from those places, because you also don't understand the core principles. Leave the defense of Krav to the real inheritors, and if you want to claim you are doing it better than real Krav Maga, test yourself at Wingate. If you can't work up the courage for that, at least try it out with Darren Levine, John Whitman, or Mark Slane. Get it straight from the head instructors. Back your claim up and let's see the video. And frankly, Krav being what it is, if you actually have something better, they'll love it, and will adopt your technique, and likely credit you.
@rancealott2 ай бұрын
real information here! 🙏🤙
@TruekravTraining2 ай бұрын
Thank you for your support 👍💪🙏
@mikesiley48972 ай бұрын
When I learned Krav, I learned to take away the gun first using both hands then strike. Get offline while grabbing gun, use the barrel as a lever to pry it out of the guys hand(s), strike with the gun, back up, then tap, rack, and aim.
@TruekravTraining2 ай бұрын
@@mikesiley4897 Thank you for your insightful comment. There are many ways to disarm a handgun. But the only way to train is to train with an attacker who truly resists you. That is when the good is separated from the bad. All the best with your training !
@Pope25012 ай бұрын
I think you should rethink your use of language. At about 3:11 you say, “This is what you should do, we all agree” with the prescribed movement off the line of attack and the push and grab the pistol and hand from the outside. Ok. Then at about 3:39 you say “the whole thing is based on fiction.” That’s not true according to what you’ve just said. So, in a similar way that Krav Maga exaggerates the chances of delivering a knockout punch with a blocked body, you are exaggerating how wrong Krav Maga is. I think your criticism is valid but you sensationalize your argument to make their position seem weaker. I think you would be more honest to explain your criticisms and position without the hyperbolic dismissal of something you previously agreed with. It makes you sound more credible and also avoids contradicting yourself.
@TruekravTraining2 ай бұрын
@pope2501 I was sarcastic at 3:11 Me saying that “we all agree” was sarcasm 👍
@goncaloalmeida70292 ай бұрын
I understand (and completely agree) what you say about not going backwards because it gives the attacker all the time in the world to try again and again and again. But I also don't completely agree with going forward in a straight line just because it goes against your primal instinct when your brain recognizes a knife coming at you with intent to harm/kill. What we do is try to defend at the most difficult angle for the attacker, which in this video would be the attacker's left side (because he's holding the knife with his right hand and attacking the right side). So what we train in this case would be to do the block stepping first towards him BUT also to your right (his left) in a 45º angle. This allows us to move closer to him without going in a straight line and then control his hand/hit him/whatever next.
@TruekravTraining2 ай бұрын
Thank you for your insightful comment. Please note that my video is not an instructional about how to defend against a knife, but the purpose was to show the dangers of a very commonly taught technique. I then briefly show how I do it. if I were to do an instructional then you would see that I don't just rush forward but that there is a definite method of intercepting by using footwork and angles and understanding range. What I can say though is that 2 of my members have actually used the defence that I teach to survive real attacks. One of these members actually wrote a testimonial that is visible on my website www.truekravtraining.com In closing : Defending against a knife in reality is not reliant on using a perfect technique because there are too many variables. Understanding range, angles, footwork and control should form the foundation of the defensive strategy. All the best and thank you for watching ! Best Regards Etienne
@Eri5872 ай бұрын
Idk man, running towards the knife looks like asking to get stabbed.
@TruekravTraining2 ай бұрын
@@Eri587 going backwards while trying to attempt a disarm is going to get you stabbed anyways. Also, I do not advise running towards the knife. I advise to stay out of range by any means possible. But only shoot forward once the attacker is in range. My point about this video was that you can’t defend a knife going backwards because the attacker will have a reflex and will continue stabbing. If you have to defend against a knife then the best option is unfortunately to shoot forward and intercept, and so doing take the reflex out of the equation.
@MrSteak2 ай бұрын
What if the attacker resists, or actually uses their other arm?
@TruekravTraining2 ай бұрын
@@MrSteak that is exactly the point I am making in the video. Please see the word “DEBUNKED” in the title 🧐
@bryantaylor71372 ай бұрын
Kravplayers don't use real resistance silly! No matter how hard the attacker telegraphs and attacks awkwardly once you just have to hiss at them even louder to succeed! None of them know any grappling, so it kinda works. But there's a good reason that "defense" is never seen in any sport fighting.
@TruekravTraining2 ай бұрын
@@bryantaylor7137I share your sentiments about Krav Maga “players” Please note my title of the video says “DEBUNKED” thus the point of my video was to show that the technique that they teach in Krav Maga does not work. I can’t make it clearer than I already did 🤷🏻
@Pifagorass2 ай бұрын
What if the attacker is Filipino 😂?
@lowge572 ай бұрын
Then you should have a gun or two😂
@johnashiru39522 ай бұрын
Get your running shoes on and bolt it 😂
@Wavemaninawe2 ай бұрын
Reach for your tsinela.
@TheSibyjohn3 ай бұрын
Bullshit...al the guy ha to put a little pressure... and then you are talking a very serious injury..... give the money wallet... and go home... we know act happens to heroes.... they don't see their Family !!!!
@TruekravTraining3 ай бұрын
I agree to give the money/wallet but you assume that all these attacks are for your money. Where I am from people often get abducted, raped and killed even if they coöperate. What will your advice be to them then ? Also, in all defences against a knife you WILL get injured. Surviving means limiting injuries to areas that you can manage...like your hands. I don't know about you but I would much rather take a cut in the hand and survive, than getting my throat slit in a home invasion. Then, in the last 2 years I have had 8 of my members attacked with attacks where they could not just hand over their money and walk. They had to fight and thankfully survived. 1 of these 8 attacks involved a gun, the other 7 attacks were with knives. I can't speak for them but if I could then I reckon they will all disagree with you that what I taught them was bullshit.
@wesmarkham81303 ай бұрын
Lol you don’t grab the blade
@TruekravTraining3 ай бұрын
I have multiple witnesses over more than 20 years that will disagree with you.
@Стик-п9д3 ай бұрын
Профи
@shanomac4 ай бұрын
Solid stuff Etienne! Still the best in not only guiding, but also explaining the reasoning.
@45Strum4 ай бұрын
bros a pro yapper
@TruekravTraining4 ай бұрын
@@45Strum I only yap when I can back it up in person 😉
@glennrobinson71934 ай бұрын
Thankyou for no bogus techniques, no BS and no fantasy but the real shit that happens.
@TX-OaksRnr4 ай бұрын
Great moves here.
@makersmark19744 ай бұрын
Just the title alone is enough.. ..a fact that can't be denied.
@TruekravTraining4 ай бұрын
Hello, thank you for your comment, I Hope that you found value in the content. All the best, Etienne
@sheldonperkins87534 ай бұрын
KOOL MOVE WOW
@TruekravTraining4 ай бұрын
Thank you @sheldonperkins8753, I will post some more in future.
@sheldonperkins87534 ай бұрын
@@TruekravTraining thank you as well to
@cedricliggins75284 ай бұрын
This is so informative. Thanks for all you do. In today's world knowing combat skills is a must.
@TruekravTraining4 ай бұрын
Thank you for your comment Cedric. I am happy that you found the information relevant. All the best, Etienne
@RudolfJvVuuren4 ай бұрын
Good stuff, makes sense what you say about "full spectrem". Be prepared for anything in other words!
@zebulonsaloum9935 Жыл бұрын
🤤 "promosm"
@TheLUDawgg4 жыл бұрын
Ettienne, much respect and thanks for breaking this down. Question: if attacker #2 saw the guy fighting back, and decided to rather go for the lady (eg. attack her with a knife) - I'm guessing there would be a different approach or it would still stay the same (focus on attacker #1, do damage, disarm)?
@bernardvreulink24574 жыл бұрын
Ettienne - TrueKrav/KravMaga - there is really no substitute when it comes to effectiveness. Looking forward to your next video.
@daniellobjoit36044 жыл бұрын
Great, realisric review. Shows how important knowledge in defending oneself is!
@misha-lamegericke27514 жыл бұрын
Thank you for taking the time to actually review these situations. Its so important for people to know what to look out for but also to know how most situations are likely to happen in order to be more prepared.
@zaidkhan-uq2bk4 жыл бұрын
Took me back to Cape Town station one evening 15 years ago, two guys one on either side. I was fortunate, they didn't pull a knife. I grabbed the bigger one under his armpit walked him into his friend, exchanged some pleasantries and caught my train. Great review, these days my advice would be hit first, hit hard and hit last
@TruekravTraining4 жыл бұрын
zaid khan thank you for the feedback. I agree with you. I also fear that it is going to get a lot worse in Cape Town, as people become more lawless, as unemployment soars
@quinrademan37304 жыл бұрын
Great review and brilliant insight! Have you ever been attacked in the streets or any other way? How did that go down? Just interested in hearing about a situation like that with your perspective! Appreciate the content!
@TruekravTraining4 жыл бұрын
Hi Quin. I applied a similar disarm (as the first technique I showed) when I intervened in a road-rage incident. I was successful in my attempt at applying the disarm under pressure.
@DavesTechTips5 жыл бұрын
That is what happens when you grow up in Gauteng, South Africa ;)
@darstew0075 жыл бұрын
I miss this so much!
@RichardCatto5 жыл бұрын
yup. don't try Hollywood moves IRL
@markleroux28895 жыл бұрын
Love this guy’s work !!! Haha smashed
@markleroux28895 жыл бұрын
Excellent
@dmoney60055 жыл бұрын
I’ll remember that next time somebody is not pointing the gun at me lol
@taurins085 жыл бұрын
You'd be wise to, especially if you are living in South Africa....