I myself got a quote for 12 acers $24,000 i dont see how any can charge that much and still stay in business no matter what the cost is prices are upside down these days. im in a buiness where my equipment cost over $200,000 for a new equipment and all i can get is 160 an hour .so im confused on how people are comming up with these prices

Let’s be real, the issue is dudes wanna make 150-200k running a glorified landscaping business meanwhile they’re sending low skilled $35-$50/hr operators out and expecting top dollar. Then complain about their equipment costs and how much it takes to run a business. Most of yall have equipment parked 20 weeks a year. This is manual labor this isn’t building custom cars, cybersecurity or the stock market.

Congratulations for being a young kid wanting to be in business for himself, but quit crying and go to work. Sounds like you're up to your eyeballs in equipment debt because you decided to buy a bunch of brand new equipment on credit. Now You're frustrated because you're having problems charging enough money to pay for it all. Some of us worked hard for years to save some money so when a good opportunity to buy a decent piece of used equipment came along we could do it without taking out a huge loan and charge a little less since were not suffering under a mountain of debt. Thats really how its supposed to work anyhow....you take something you worked hard for and invest it in something you are highly proficient at, and thats a pretty good recipe for success, not walk into an equipment dealer sign for a bunch of equipment and get into a new trade. You said you got out of tree work because it had become less lucrative than it had once been so it sounds like you're new to mulching....not that theres all that much to know about it unless you're doing a lot of work in riparian areas that may require permits or government oversight. Im guessing You took a big gamble because you saw the crazy rates guys were getting, if you didnt consider that that would attract a lot of new businesses and rates would moderate some thats not your customers problem to financially mitigate. You talked about educating your customers, but all i heard were marketing buzz words. You didnt mention one technical, quantifiable piece of information about the mulching process. You shouldn't be educating them about how great and high end your equipment is. You should be finding out what they want to achieve with their project and sharing your expertise on a few options and any possible pitfalls that might be encountered and let them make their own decision. Maybe you and your equipment are the best option and maybe not. Maybe the customer doesn't want to take your advice and their not a good customer for you. Just saying it sounds like you're doing the wrong kind of customer education. You mentioned you didnt like hourly and would rather just do per job price and said if im going to mulch their back yard ill just charge 1000$ and it takes me a half hour or an hour .......do you really think your shiny new machine is worth 1k an hour? Ive been in business almost 30 years and most of my friends are long time self employed, but none of us are making quick easy money. Heres a secret, theres no legal way to make quick easy money. Gold rushes, fur booms, oil booms, they all shine for afew years and fizzle out. $1000 an hour for a bobcat and mulcher is in the same class, you should know thats not going to last. Dont go blaming everyone else for fact that the prices are moderating....that happens with new technology. Big flat screen TVs were 3k when they first came out and only a couple companies made them, now they're 200. Same with mulchers now 20 companies make them and you can get them a little cheaper. For most applications the only difference is speed which in most instances doesn't affect what the job is worth.....to mulch 5 acres of brush is 1500$ dont matter if it takes 2 hours or 6 hours.

Cat and Kubota have same engine and I went from cat to kubota with same results and no whiplash and less down time. 17 years in the Industry. I ran Cat from 2012 to 2021 and had 5 units . Now 3 97-2 and love them.

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I use carbides. Knives cut better, but have to be sharpened twice daily in my use, and the knives don't last long. Put the carbides on and let it eat

What are the prices like out there? We get about $200 an hour locally here in Ga… which I believe is way to cheap but it’s what everyone else is at

Renting the skid steer for long term is tax deductible and you aren't responsible for maintenance..sometimes that's a better option...buy the head but rent the machine...

I don't think anyone should be getting into mulching unless ur big business. Big business will undercut you guys just to eliminate the competition. You are full of smoke!!! Between tree company , construction company, n lawn companies they can stump grind, mowe, tree removal, mulch, brushogg, take huge tax deduction and pulverize the little guy .... I have tried to beat your rates and I have ... not that hard. A big business will take the loss and call it PR ... don't try to justify 1500 day rates. I just got a construction co. At 750.

Good info and all true!

I think the customers main issue is that paying a higher price is not an issue if you are going to get a higher quality product. If someone is going to pay $2500 a day for mulching, they want to ensure the job is going to get done, no surprises. Charging high prices doesnt make you the best at the job…thats the main issue, selling your quality.

So the Mexicans messing up the profit margine? Lmao

shitty and dark

I'm guessing this guy is out of business. Hasn't had a FB post in over a year. 🤷‍♂️

Where have you found to be the best place to buy your Samurai knives or carbide teeth for the fecon smooth drum?

Really would love to watch this video but the audio is terrible and really hard to hear even at hi volume

Answered so many questions. You’re a legend.

If I ever get into this I owe this guy money for the education.

Do you consult online? What is the value of your consultancy? Can you pass on your contact, please? What's your email, please?

LOFTNESS IT HAS A CUTTING SYSTEM, A KNIFE VERY DIFFERENT FROM THE OTHERS, WHICH REASON, THANK YOU.

Mano, mas qual o mais eficiente tipo de faca? E qual fabricante da menos problemas de manutenção? Valeu meu nobre...Top

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had the same thing in the pressure washing business i was licensed bonded and insured along with doing quality work it got to where people wanted me to work basically for free . good luck to you sir and thanks for the content . i am learning for my own personal use for the property i have will build a range and want to purchase a bobcat with forestry attachment .

Bro why would you make a video that you can't hear , what a waste of time

I appreciate the info looking at starting up a company this spring and very informative thanks mike

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Hey excellent video! You did a great job of explaining the design differences which is what I have always wanted to know.

The free market is a bitch. But thats America for you.

Kind of sounds like you're talking about price fixing. The US government frowns on that.

I know a business has the right to charge what they want to but charging someone an outlandish amount is just wrong. To me from what your saying is that a new company that starts up and has lower prices is hurting your business because there not charging someone a high amount. Maybe its because your charging people way to much. Regardless, I know for a fact that i can rent a skid steer with a forestery mulcher attachment and use it on my property for way less than what i can have any forestry mulching business come in and do it. I know you all have overhead costs and need to make a profit but some of the land clearing people want to rob a customers pocket book. Its down right disgraceful how much some of them charge. Not saying there all like that but there are alot.

Yeah, you are just too big for your budget. Your "small time" competitors are what keeps prices low. Which just bust your bubble. Too bad, so sad for you. Competition is what makes America great. It keeps you from monopolizing the entire market. Quit crying. And lower your prices. Quit resting on your florals. Get out and get jobs because you are better at it. Educate,! Hmph. You sound like you'd be right at home with a union steward giving a thousand reasons why you can't get it done. Wrong thinking, bad thinking. Yeah, comfortable for you.

Couldn't here you🙃

I'll give you a like even though I think you could have organized your message a little better. You also need to consider how varying business models can be more or less profitable. Many mulching contractors around my area also do excavating, landscaping, and whatever else they can do to employ themselves and their equipment. Some own, some rent. Their billing structures and overhead vary. Some do mulching only when they have a number of jobs lined up. Probably spending more time developing your business plan and service catalog, along with learning to estimate a job better would be the largest help a person could do themselves. A customer doesn't typically care about your business plan or overhead, but will research things to try to get a per acre or per hour cost for your service.

I live in. Dayton

Hello, I would like to ask you a question please. Do you need a CDL to haul your machine from job to job? I’m getting a lot of conflicting information on this subject. And your in the same state as I am. So that helps. Thank you for your time. And I love the videos. Which has inspired me to try and start a small brush clearing business on the side. I have definitely been investing about how to not trash this market. And building relationships with competitors. These people will call you for help in some cases.

Appreciate the time you took in sharing your thoughts & experience in this video. Normally, I click off shortly after starting a vid that shows extended talking, but your common-sense comments kept me engaged. Summary: a) Calculate costs before profit; b) Educate your customer; c) You don't want every customer; d) Choose & use the right equipment; e) Be honest; f) Know -- but don't bash -- your competition; g) Customer isn't always right; h) Understand the difference in pricing scales & choose the appropriate one for the job. And I'll agree with you that folks that trash the market only to leave it when they trash their profit make it tough for the rest of us to stay professional. All one can do is be persistent and wait for the low-hanging fruit to fall when they outbid themselves. Thanks again.

Appreciate the time you took to share your experiences, though, honestly, your vid's title made me think you would address the do's and don'ts of actual forestry mulching ops rather than general business ops. Years ago I paid for YP ads and have to agree with you that they are worthless... after 3 years of expensive advertising I think I landed no more than 2 customers from YP. Word-of-mouth works well, as does "shoestring" advertising such as postcard mailings to specific customer sectors like property management and realtor companies. VistaPrint is a great place for cheap postcard mailings, IMHO. Thanks again for your honesty, and your professionalism.

Terex is the worst machines on the market across the board. We run 6 TR 100 rock trucks and they are a complete train wreck

Raptor 300 with mulching head 278,424

Lease or purchase?

Great video,, I'm not in the business but I will be looking at this for a possibility for a future small business just for me,, jumping in an established market and watering down the work for everyone is never a good idea for everyone..

Lighting is terrible on displaying knives;wish your lighting was better.

Thank you

I live in Alabama, how does being in Alabama affect your business growth? Enough land in America to Clear!

Good job

Very informative video! Thank's for sharing! But i got a question: What kind of tooth/cutter would you recommend for mulching up brush piles?

You mentioned a smooth drum, whats the other? Which is better? What Track and forestry attachment is better?

Good information!

What’s the cost each or to replace a drum?

Great video and very informative! Thanks for the help!