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@JCPJCPJCP 4 күн бұрын
Robin Morgan is, apparently, a lousy poetess.
@junetakesover Ай бұрын
interesting how they both used each other to reach their ambition: to become poets. and of course becoming a poet means becoming an archetype, to transcend being a person, to belong to people as a collective idea, a collective image. but when the collective themselves take control of the creation of the myth and turn him into "evil husband", they don't like it. lol his daugthter even seems hurt and offended by it: 01:06:09 she clearly didn't understand that the problem in that moment was that the power of myth making was taken from ted hughes hands by the very collective he was inscribing himself in. as for him, with all that interest in magic, anthropology and myth he understood it very well ...... just probably didn't like the feeling of losing power over the narrative. truth is if you're trying to become an archetype and you succeed there is no switch. you can't just shut off being an archeype to become a person again when it interests you.
@DSmith-mg6ui Ай бұрын
People should read his "The Dogs Are Eating Your Mother", in Birthday Letters, in which he likens his feminist critics to "hyenas" fattening on Sylvia's corpse. A brilliant and very to-the-point demolition job.
@leevww 2 ай бұрын
Just a serial adulterer. left a legacy of being a useless man and a complete bastard...
@Johnconno 4 ай бұрын
These celibate academics think he's Byron, Burton and Heath cliffe...
@oddysysorry 5 ай бұрын
i recently finished reading my copy of birthday leters...and to be honest, its not a good bood. its too long and over indulgent.
@jimnewcombe7584 Ай бұрын
It's just plain bad writing as well. His penultimate book Tales from Ovid is far better.
@areohbee343 5 ай бұрын
What happened to Carol Orchard? Did Ted also kill her? Did she kill him? Why can I find no information about her on Google or Reddit?
@carlosdepaulo8580 5 ай бұрын
He was a good poet, but Plath achieved, by her own unique merits (far above and beyond Hughes' boring and presumptuous male poetry), a worldwide status that he could only have dreamt about. Clearly a womanizer, an immature, an overpraised white straight male. Of course, he won the Pulitzer (Snodgrass, Lowell, Berryman... Sexton - all these confessional ports did it too) - but that is too little for the (extremely) high account in which he had himself. RIP.
@oddysysorry 7 ай бұрын
I am beyond happen this is back, I was so angry it was taken down. Now I can watch it again every single day like I did before
@FrancieMoon9 9 ай бұрын
Frieda is adorable. I love her story about her parents being on her syllabus for school!
@bobsgirl100 9 ай бұрын
Well who else was gonna get her work out? Asia was very very mentally ill before her suicide.
@GrumpyYank26 9 ай бұрын
fabulous. melvyn Bragg and Cornwell are a great match.
@user-mr2pv1ml1h 9 ай бұрын
❤
@matthewfarmer2520 10 ай бұрын
I was at a book sale this padt Friday in August at the historic locust Grove and got just one of his books for $2.00 and some DVDs to add to my collection lol. The Russian House 1989 📖
@CitrineDream Жыл бұрын
Thanks for posting this!
@ThomasWilkinsont Жыл бұрын
The thought fox from 13:09 to 17:00
@frugalwitch Жыл бұрын
Sylvia and Assia and his daughter Shura’s deaths
@tamanpemikir6646 Жыл бұрын
I really appreciated listening to this interview, but for reasons that are probably rather unusual. I have lately become interested in how great creative figures got involved in doing deep cognitive work, and how they arranged their lives in order to do that work. It has seemed natural to me to study writers as one kind of creative cognitive workers. I am glad that the interviewer here asked le Carre lots of questions about how he became a writer and how he arranged his life in order to devote himself to writing. I had been afraid that the interviewer would focus mainly on John le Carre's involvement in and knowledge of the spy world, but thankfully he touched it only in passing. On the other hand, I learned a lot about the creative process from listening to this interview. Would that there were more interviews like it!
@wolves7655 Жыл бұрын
What I find puzzling about this interesting interview is that it is briefly intersperced with visual clips of Sir Alec Guiness as George Smiley from the series Tinker Tailor Soldier Spy. This programme was shown in September 1977 but the tv series was first broadcast two years later.
@luckyswine Жыл бұрын
Le Carre is frequently typed INTP in mbti but I see INFJ with Te polr here. No sense of direction, social watcher, moral critic of institutions, verbal gift for precision and economy, socially warm, vain, intensely private.
@HaFannyHa 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you for uploading this brilliant programme!
@velocitygirl8551 2 жыл бұрын
Frieda has the most beautiful arms 💪
@velocitygirl8551 2 жыл бұрын
He beat her so that she miscarried her first child … I wouldn’t say he was NICE to her. Smh.
@mrdarren1045 2 жыл бұрын
And you can prove that can you?
@wudima1444 2 жыл бұрын
I hate this son,fun
@annieterniak1799 2 жыл бұрын
Hughes's voice sounds like it comes out of a horror movie.
@constancewalsh3646 2 жыл бұрын
How things happen. Sylvia Plath's"Unabridged Journals" bought on impulse in an antique shop. Random reading in the car. No, too heavy. Put in give-away pile. Pluck it back weeks later. Open at random to the page of her first meeting with Hughes. The headband was red, she writes; not blue, as he wrote - poet's license! It's Saturday morning in the California desert, cold wind. I read and read and now it's too late to turn back. Discover "Stronger than Death." The very manna I seek and rarely find. Such gratitude for this, thank you from the depths. The depths... shadows of death, where ever fewer visit by intent and are doomed instead to live it. This man and this woman were equals, and they were the product of their times. Neither fully aware that, bound as we may be to one another, we are solely responsible for our lives and our emotional states. Neither fully aware that the edicts of love are made up by the culture, against which creativity and co-dependency will will kick and suffer. Blame is as ignorant and hideous as the accusatory poem shot at Ted Hughes - hearing it wrenched me, that my sisters should hate a man so. Always three fingers pointing back to the accuser, it's the higher law. I am a conscious woman who would be a masculinist as well as a feminist in truer terms. Both Sylvia Plath and Ted Hughes were tremendous souls who gave their lives to poetry because they could not be otherwise, and in doing so, to the culture and to the world. Big souls are never victims.
@quantumfineartsandfossils2152 2 жыл бұрын
"monster daddy's beguiling evil" wow yes the prey for genius predators of predators the monster daddy's bitch criminal cronies? days are numbered we will let them prey on eachother and cannibalize with 0 culpability they dont need us around
@spritualelitist665 2 жыл бұрын
Something extremely Pagan about Teds work. I've read a lot of occult writings and traditionalist writing, people like Evola and Jung. He must of been influenced by that stuff because it seems a constant theme throughout his writings. An ultra paganist feel about it. Very English. He's like a English Mystic the same way Yeats was an Irish Mystic.
@supergrahamg 2 жыл бұрын
yes, quite possibly; however, shame about the Shakespeare motherlode obsession, akin to Yeats' pre-occupation with the occult. I believe half a dozen of Hughes' poems are remarkable, will stand the test of time. I salute you, Ted, valediction inscribed in granite gold leaf, on Dartmoor....a fitting epitaph in my opinion
@marietjieluyt7619 2 жыл бұрын
What a hairstyle. That was then.
@mrminer071166 2 жыл бұрын
Two women killing themselves . . . looks like carelessness!
@gaganamanjunath732 2 жыл бұрын
Carelessness of who?
@mrminer071166 2 жыл бұрын
@@gaganamanjunath732 Thelma and Louise; Oscar Wilde. If you don't get those two references, my comment is not for you.
@marinaloulli3452 2 жыл бұрын
I’m in heaven with this documentary, to see all the poets I’ve read myself raw with talking.
@21stCen 2 жыл бұрын
What a lovely comment! Much appreciated
@Edameda_mmori 2 жыл бұрын
what is this documentary about?
@Sleepflowrr 2 жыл бұрын
I suggest this podcast of 2 kzbin.info/www/bejne/d5OpmWaJrLKCbac he was a monster
@enzojasper632 2 жыл бұрын
ted hugnes was a real crazy asshole who only cared about himself
@AnnabelleCharrier 2 жыл бұрын
Do they ever get around to mentioning the poem he wrote celebrating the wedding of Prince Andrew and Fergie? That one made him a laughing stock. Okay, okay, I'm being a nasty bitch but I'm not a fan of Hughes. Strangely, you can get away with saying just about anything about Plath. Hughes is such a sacred cow. Sorry, people.
@mark-jensbarton8363 2 жыл бұрын
Every artist gets to have a bad work or two
@AnnabelleCharrier Жыл бұрын
@@mark-jensbarton8363 You're right. Sorry.
@anushreerao8807 2 жыл бұрын
i wonder how he lived all these years, with all that guilt
@veronicawelsh5313 2 жыл бұрын
Narcissist! Evil Narcissist! Why can't people see this. He needs cancelling!
@aurorastorm9842 2 жыл бұрын
He does not need cancellation myopia becomes you . He was a force of Nature . Free Speech means exactly that.
@mrdarren1045 2 жыл бұрын
Woke morons who talk about cancelling ppl need cancelling. They are the death of free speech.
@pianobanter 2 жыл бұрын
Cancelling? Evil? Don't be ludicrous. What a bland, sanitised, stagnant world you would want to live in. Besides, some of the worst works of art ever created has been made by very nice people.
@calliopeclaire1699 Жыл бұрын
1000%
@helenturner4506 2 жыл бұрын
This was lost (to the public) for so long, I rejoiced to see it back again. From the BBC I used to love, but which sold its soul and betrayed us.
@missplumtree958 2 жыл бұрын
The difference of Sylvia and Assia was Sylvia never k i l l e d her children, Assia did.
@Mark-Smeaton 2 жыл бұрын
You're right. The night of her suicide, Plath went to extraordinary lengths to protect her children from the gas.
@missplumtree958 2 жыл бұрын
@@Mark-Smeaton I heard Assia thought her daughter would be treated by people as second class child of Ted Hughes but I don't think that's an excuse. If she wanted her child to be well, then give her for adoption to any good relative or friend she had, shouldn't she? I think this is where the depth of the wisdom of both women had differs from one another. I guess Plath being a poet who used her feelings herself could feel pain so her level of wisdom is deep, while Assia was good in her creative side like an advertisement she designed gained success didn't really have that level of deep thinking.
@Mark-Smeaton 2 жыл бұрын
@@missplumtree958 It's so sad in both cases - but as you say, there is a huge difference which speaks volumes about both women. For example, there is an unsent letter by Ted Hughes somewhere in his archive (apologies that I don't have the citation handy but I swear I have read this). I think it was to Jacqueline Rose and it was about Plath's journal - the one he infamously burnt because he claimed it would hurt her children. Hughes wrote that the only thing that Sylvia wrote that would have hurt her children was ONE sentence, on the very last page. He did not elaborate but in conjunction with her last poem, "Edge", I suspect that she wrote something to the effect that she was going to kill her children also - or maybe she just contemplated it or alluded to it. However (thank God), when push came to shove, Plath went to painstaking lengths to ensure the safety of her children. She didn't just stop at taping their door but also used towels and clothes, leaving their window open. Her body was still warm too, indicating she hadn't died until about 6AM - probably because she knew a nurse was arriving at 8AM. It was, I think, very carefully timed. Knowing as much as I do about suicide (my own mother took her life), these were quite impressive acts of maternal love because most people who kill themselves are in such profound states of apathy and ambivalence. I'm not sure that many people would go to that much effort. As for Assia, she asked both her sister and the novelist Fay Weldon to take care of Shura if anything happened to her but I don't think Assia liked other women much. I seem to remember she wrote "I couldn't stand some bloody woman" raising Shura. Coupled with that, Hughes apparently treated Shura very indifferently compared to Frieda and Nicholas (especially Frieda, who felt the need to write an article asserting that Shura was not even Hughes' daughter a few years ago). Maybe Assia thought Shura would be better off dead too but I don't know. Killing a child is a very difficult thing to see as an act of benevolence. I did feel pity for Assia after reading that biography of her published some years ago but I also read a study of parents who kill their children as well as themselves - the author argues that contrary to popular belief, parents usually DON'T kill children as a delusional act of mercy. It's a retaliatory act of vengeance - don't ask me how the author arrived at this conclusion but it was by a supposed expert in the field. Horrific subject, either way!
@missplumtree958 2 жыл бұрын
@@Mark-Smeaton what does bloody mean in Assia's sentence? Did she mean both women are bad people or something similar? Or rather she doesn't want any woman good or bad to take care of Shura? I had suicidal thoughts too when I was a teenager but k i ll ing others along with my suicide never occurred to me.
@Mark-Smeaton 2 жыл бұрын
@@missplumtree958 @Miss Plumtree "Some bloody woman" in that sentence simply means , "Some f*cking stupid/annoying woman". Bloody was a very old school British/Australian word. Assia didn't seem to be referring to any woman in particular. Secondly, sorry for writing such insanely long, rambling posts. I'm recovering from numerous injuries atm and forced to spend a lot of time in bed. I have way too much time on my hands. lol
@gabrielagelsi1743 2 жыл бұрын
Dónde ver con subtítulos en español?
@smpeace2683 3 жыл бұрын
Sadly Ted sought death instead of LIFE. His name is Jesus. SEEK JESUS today and LIVE !
@HaFannyHa 2 жыл бұрын
oh get knotted and keep your bible bashing to yourself. not suitable here.
@smpeace2683 3 жыл бұрын
When you dabble with the devil. He takes revenge. So Sylvia killed herself. Assia killed herself along with Ted's 4 year old daughter. Hughes son killed himself.
@nancywilson2314 2 жыл бұрын
The Assia death is the most tragic.
@belladonna5904 2 жыл бұрын
The common denominator here is Ted..
@mrdarren1045 2 жыл бұрын
A bit like what happened with led zeppelin after jimmy page's dabbling with the occult.
@colinstewart7123 3 жыл бұрын
Le Carré is one of my all time favourite human beings. Single handedly raises the spy novel to the level of high art. The moral ambiguity of his characters, the refusal to simplify the complexity of the cold war, this guy is the best 👌
@nickellingham1764 Жыл бұрын
I completely agree. He is dearly missed. ❤️. Do you like A Perfect Spy? Few lecarre fans I talk to seem to rate it but to me it's easily his best stand alone book. Magnus Pym is the best and most thoroughly written charictor I have encountered in any book by anyone. Every charictor in that book feel so real. I must have read it 5 times now and can't imagine ever tiring of it
@fabiengerard8142 9 ай бұрын
As far as I remember, Graham Greene’s ‘The Human Factor’ wasn’t bad at all either.
@helenturner4506 3 жыл бұрын
Inspirational The three hares, chasing one another forever.
@elizabetha.richter4073 3 жыл бұрын
Sylvia Plath was supposed to show "more understanding" to her husband having an affair without any intention of ending it? What kind of fools are commenting on this program.
@missplumtree958 2 жыл бұрын
So true
@missplumtree958 2 жыл бұрын
Foolish thoughts
@veronicawelsh5313 2 жыл бұрын
Narcissists!
@Mark-Smeaton 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you so much. Hughes never changed either. He was never monogamous. I bet he secretly enjoyed his reputation as a charismatic , "dangerous" womaniser too and used it to hook up with other women.
@aurorastorm9842 2 жыл бұрын
Like Oliver Reed who moved the air it's on his tombstone it would be naive to think that when you have a man like Ted Hughes like this in your life you have a tiger by the tail.
@jackjohnhameld6401 3 жыл бұрын
*I think of poems as a sort of animal; they have their own life, like animals; by which I mean that they seem quite separate from any person, even from their author. And nothing can be added to them, or taken away, without maiming and perhaps even killing them.* Vintage Ted Hughes.
@davis7099 3 жыл бұрын
1:06:50 A pattern emerges in the late 60s "Ariel" inspired feminist movement. Robin Morgan, Gloria Steinem, Jacqueline Rose, Sandra Gilbert et all ( curiously all Jewish critics ) round on Hughes and men in authority. These self elected activists made the Plath-Hughes story their own into order to strike a political cudgel at Hughes and the " patriarchy" . Sitting in their Long Island homes today butter would not melt in their mouths. They were " thieves" of other peoples misfortunes.
@spritualelitist665 2 жыл бұрын
leftism at its finest and its ironic they were off the ''tribe''. Ted was an English Mystic.
@keithmahone67 3 жыл бұрын
Feminism: A wholly owned subsidiary of Judeo-Satanism (appearing as Marxism).
@Mark-Smeaton 2 жыл бұрын
"Whatever it is women are asking for honey, it's not for you" - Germaine Greer, ("Town Bloody Hall"), 1970.
@keithmahone67 3 жыл бұрын
What a ridiculous fucking soap opera!
@happymaskedguy1943 3 жыл бұрын
I can't stop re-watching this. It's become a lifeline of inspiration in my own writing. Thank you again for sharing it.
@21stCen 3 жыл бұрын
You're very welcome, my friend