I wasn't really a fan of it last time I played it, its so much slower, and takes a lot longer.

​@thetotalwarsmaster totally agree

@@thetotalwarsmaster well, that's how real battles were back then

@@nomisbman1826 is there an actual community like is there servers ??

@@N0thing6969 yes, there is a tight community with an active competetive scene.

Not really :(

Yeh that would be fun to contest in There's hardly any players on the official discord who play NTW

I am there for the CA server, but you are right it is just a small handful :(

Sometimes men must die for glory!

If you don't widen your lines and kept it to 3 ranks, then it would just be easier to envelope your men. Moreover, fighting in fairly thin lines outside of marching columns was common. The French often did 3 or 2 ranks, and by October 13th 1813 Napoleon ordered them to all adopt a 2 rank fighting formation. Which was done with even a conscript army. Of the far left unit in the first battle, yes when the enemy is in square not all are shooting and once they leave square nearly all are shooting. The micro time for that one unit in the battle was not worth it ensp combined with the loss of firepower temporarily associated with having to maneuver your line if. To the third point of just going between the cav, if he leaves for my lancers to attack his rear from the flank is that not the same problem you have as a goal? Moreover, with my reserve chassurs a cheval, I would be able to shoot and engage any British cav trying to get into the rear. Hence, a good reason I keep them back there. Based upon what do you insist I'd just be shooting the ground? I mean you saw by battle on Italian Grasslands and to no meaningful amount was I shooting the terrain. If it is just mindlessly shooting the British win that. But winning the cav fight, better use of combined Inf-Cav arms, along with general aggression caried the day. Is the position and maneuvering done with led to the collapse of the enemy flanks not what you seek? I have no fear of a largely misled or wrong reply.

@@thetotalwarsmaster Widening lines is the best way to kill your own troops. I love watching players shooting they own light infantry, having to clues about balistics and dimensions. If you have a line infantry stretched out facing mine, and supposing you don't move it once it's in place, if I were to place mine right before yours AND to the side, only a small portion for your soldiers would shoot. It seems, in this game, one unit can only shoot at 1 enemy unit at a time. Hence, if your unit is on "fire at will" mode, it starts shooting, then I move mine ; yours would still shoot but ineffectively, since your soldiers on the farside can't shoot at such wide angle. So, an easy counter to a player stretching his line infrantry like you do is to simply let you shoot first, run to the side of your line and stay put there. You would either have to change the angle of your line thus offering your flank, or retreat, or charge. All three are bad options. About squares, i meant: imagine you have 2 line infantry stretched out. They form a lengthy line alright. But, threatened by cavalry, your line becomes 2 squares, offering space. This space is enough to have cavalry go to the otherside without having to make the wide detour. Of course, it's better to make this move where your opponent has no reserves, and after the squared infantry already shot. Few losses of cavalry for a very useful move. Fast cavalry behind your lines, free to go for the General or lights if they're not supported. Circumstancial move, but still, way more inventive than your duelling of lines which only relies on the caracteristics of units.

@@thetotalwarsmaster Didn't you notice infantry stretched out takes way more time to accomplish orders than those kept on 3 ranks? Thus, you theorically can't outmaneuvre and envelope someone keeping his lines with 3 ranks. Inertia's formula isn't about mass, it's about speed. It's speed that is squared, not mass. 1/2 m x v². Stretching them all the time gets em tired faster, which is not a good idea.

@@ThomasBodier So them lets hop on a grassy game rn then, whats your steam name so I can add you there? bc if you do stay 3 ranks the entire time you do get enveloped and outshot.

Except you're expecting to be able to flank, which is not the case. Your formation would be significantly less long allowing the stretched player to flank. Which would not give the three choices your offer but instead it would be the stretched line to flank. If you have any eyes, you would see it is not just two lines fighting, have you been unable to see the cavalry impacting the field? lmao

Makes it lot easier to hear them charge, thats for sure.

"Diamond formation in NTW used when cav unit expected to run under fire from front to reduce the casualties of the unlucky frontal charge, also the formation is more centered (same as infantry centered attack on enemy line), " These two are opposed, the enemy fire typically fire towards the center of the unit, therefore this deeper but less wide formation takes more casualties from a direct frontal charge. While both typically center so there typically isn't much difference. "meaning to cut through the center of a unit fight flanks separatly (it is shown in a morale characteristic of unit that it fights on flanks, or concerned about it) and it is more defensive, then attacking formation because of, as you said that, the number of involved into a fight cavalrymen, that again makes enemy to try swarming your unit and fighting on its flanks, while your men are staying together despite same penalty and because of that having higher morale at the end of a fight, same with infantry attacks, thats why its more likely to use a proper grenadiers for the "wide line" attack relying on their attack, defense and high morale" Attacked in rear penalty is higher from pulling the men through anyway, in addition, attacked in flank penalty is not too severe in comparison.

@@thetotalwarsmaster ty will use that knowledge when i'll be playing in vanilla NTW. I am used to play NTW3 mod for almost 2 years so yeah, kinda forgot about vanilla and "creativity" of brits

The problem is with how NTW works, you can just pull them through anyway, since they aren't always engaged when pulling through you don't really have to slog through the entire formation. + Said Diamond makes you a lot weaker to a round shot cannon ball even if outside of canister.

kzbin.info/www/bejne/oojCf4VtpsRmfs0 For line inf, Ottomans, Portugal and GB have good line, Russia has bad line (unless charging), everyone else is overall fairly mediocre.

Are you a Mac User?

@ yup? Is that why?

Yes, Mac is not online.

@@WarReport. just what CA did, idk why

I prefer Multiplayer battles, seeing that the AI is a little … dumb? To put it kindly. Of which mods greatly limit who and when you can play with.

Yes

I'll try to make sure its better in my next recording session, sorry.

@@thetotalwarsmaster no worries lol, also these videos are immensely helpful I recently started multiplayer NP not too long ago and these guides help a lot.

@@creedencerat9032 I would also advise checking out TW Replays, he is the one who I learned from.

I personally assign little value to the great majority of scenario battles.

@thetotalwarsmaster many players rank their stars in scenario battles xd

They do have a good melee charge bonus, but I've found it overall too weak to try a mass melee charge

lmao

Then I'd just walk my cav into your men as they try to beat my to the hill, which for the possible loss of a singular cav unit Id be bale to take the hill, and if there is a light nearby I could charge through the square.

Vanilla

They will automatically bayonet charge if you manually target them, but then if the enemopy runs they keep chasing

On Napoleon

The Bull-Headed Bison

Him rage quitting fairly soon on def made it a easy win as a result.

You can check out my video about "Why To Change How You Think About Your Allies - Napoleon Total War", but this is very army and enemy dependent. Typically this is easiest to do when your in position to threaten with infantry assault if they divert force and/or sending cavalry to support your ally.

Typically when I play on N/N as UK if I create Belgium, Prussia will declare war on them, major powers being liberated typically will eventually declare war, while I find they can be temporarily useful in some spots, I find them to overtime be more troublesome and useful.

Never liberate major powers. I did have one game where i played Poland and Courland conquered like 8 territories and destroyed Prussia.

@@ÇınarYıldırımçakar you can only use them in campaign

I think they are awesome and cool, but in terms of firepower, sadly they really just aren't there.

It is better for my recent NTW stuff after I used my laptop and changed my settings on my recorder

I think it is very good, especially in 1 v 1s. It is what I often do, I will have a center, and each flank which I will treat as a separate entity able to be detached, although I might bring them back together later, which will be better seen in my videos Im releasing fairly soon.

@ thanks mate, look forward to those videos and more.

I would say its less micro and kiting, and more that melee is less efficient, a;; the time to get there, fight, route, etc, while the whole time you are weak to cavalry.