Was it a Dirty Fingers? I agree that there is a thing a LP Custom does here that an ESP just can't do..

@TIGHTENmetal Yes, it's the "Dirty Fingers" pickup. You can still find them new, but Gibson tweaked them and it's just not the same anymore. I was lucky to get a used one and there's definitely more fat, tight low end. ESPs are awesome guitars. I own half a dozen of them and play and gig with them alot.

Long time ago, but yes. kzbin.info/www/bejne/gIaVfH6tra6mjq8si=9hoPfUNHrBy2-NLk

The 16 ohm Mesa 212s are generally fizzier, but they do sit in the mix well with a down tuned guitar.

This Green is the best III I've had. (out of 9)

The new Mark IIC+ reissue can probably get you pretty dang close. That’s if you want a new amp. You can find blue stripe Mark IIIs for sub $3,000 on reverb all day. But from what I read Sykes played the ultra rare 150w Coliseum models. Also Sykes has never really came out and said what he used exactly. He could’ve been using Mark IIC+s. RIP John Sykes.

And the iic+ on this video, is it HRG? Sounds awesome! By the way, what's the closest amp to iic+ you think? Mark iii red, JP2C, Mark iic+ reissue, Mesa preamps?

Hey there. All I was using was double tracking & a little bit of chorus in post.

@@TIGHTENmetal I hear a slap? Or a very short reverb sounds great by the way.

@@totc6196 Sorry nope, just playing that's not all that tight and a chorus!

Really confused man I can hear a tail at the end of a reverb is it some secret? 0:36 that’s a plate … or a delay with a modulation. I know that’s what he used on the album.

@@totc6196 That's just the chorus effect I chose out of my DAW. Maybe has some reverb built in? That's not uncommon.

Closest Mesa dealer is 300 miles from me. If I only bought local I'd only have Fender and Line 6 amps!

@@TIGHTENmetal You went and auditioned it. Was that at a dealer? Do they ship? All i'm saying is if we don't support these people you'll have nowhere to audition equipment before you buy.

@@Relayer6a I first played the amp at a Guitar Center in The Big City while on vacation. The one in the demo I later purchased new from a smaller Mesa dealer in another state and had shipped in. That said, 95% of the gear on my channel I never demoed before buying because I live in a rural area. I have to buy it to try it, and it's almost always purchased used through the usual places. One of the reason I post demos is to pay it forward, and hopefully help people like me that cannot try before they buy.

@@TIGHTENmetal Fair enough. I was just asking because it sounded like you didn't buy it from where you auditioned it. You apparently didn't do it but a lot of people will go into a single owner business and then find a cheaper online price and not even give the little guy a shot at making the sale. Being in the retail business where I maintain a sales floor, professional staff, and displays I get really bothered by people who do that. They come in get proper advice and demonstrations and then buy it for a few dollars less elsewhere. Often some place they already went to that gave them poor service/advice. And the worst part is they didn't even say, "So and so has it for this price. Can you sell it to me for the same?" Because if it's a legit dealer I will always match price and still give them better service.

Didn't care for shred, too noisy.

@@TIGHTENmetal I hear you, but at that gain setting, it shouldn't make extra noise.

That's just how they were dialed, not really in reality. The III is a little more dry than the II, but still within the World of Marks. The knobs were set the same at first then I made some tweaks for the room, but I was going more for "killer tone" than "make them as close as possible".

@@TIGHTENmetal I see. Thanks. Sorry, just for my understanding, which one was a little more dry than the other again? You mentioned the III for both cases.

@@Farhadhp1 Oops, edited. :) The III is a little more dry than the IIs.

With the wall thickness of a .224 being a lot thinner & the material harndess being the same, I could see how the smaller diameters may open up easier.

@@TIGHTENmetal the 70gr is also a bit of a special animal.

Great amp. I have a purple stripe.

Those mark iii’s are nice

which one do you like best ?

The player's name was also Mark!

In hindsight the RI could have used more presence.

exactly !!!!

The 2001 cabs the OG and the RI are on are damn near identical in sound. Speakers are only a couple weeks apart.

Nope. I've modded lots of amps, this was one I regretted. I also have a Rev C, which is KILLER, and this was not that. This G was better stock.

Sure you do

They are the same 😂😂

Thanks

I think the RI is a tad warmer- which isn't a bad thing in the room. I think the RI mids sit better a well, or are at least more forgiving.

IMO the IIIs are a little more dry & aggressive, while still being organic & 3D. I like them for their own reasons. I think the RI will still nail the IIC+ sound & feel where a III doesn't.

Sure 😂

First blush as an OG II/III guy, I like the RI WAY more than the JP and the VII. I will give the JP a nod for live work, and I'll give the VII the nod for bedroom work, but I'd take the RI any day for what I'm looking for.

I disagree on both points, if the C+ experience is what you're looking for..