on it :)

discord.gg/jZrS3GVXsS You're a lifesaver. I'm kinda bad at Discord ;)

Hey, that's pretty great! Who knows what could happen, but a talk would be nice. You can find contact info in the channel's About section. Thank you so much for being interested in this topic and wanting to help me!

Thanks! 🙏🏿 Love to have you!

Here is one that I made: steinunlimited.com/integral Ken Wilber's books, such as Integral Spirituality, are the primary source. You can visit his official institutions and resources, or read about Spiral Dynamics, which is basically the same idea. The channel hoe_math has a great Levels introduction (that channel is mostly about dating-related stuff). Oddly, I haven't successfully made a video that does a great job of introducing the topic. It's definitely a goal. I appreciate you watching, and I hope to get to the point where it's coming across clearly. A lot of our videos take different approaches to conveying the topic, but I tend towards artsy portrayals. Everyone has different approaches to learning, but I like this "currency"-based explanation: kzbin.info/www/bejne/bGKoeat6iM2DpNU But that probably isn't what you had in mind, haha. You might also try out "Altitudes Tutorial" playlist, although my earlier content is considerably more cringey. :) kzbin.info/www/bejne/ena1oqaoqcuZitE

It is like smelling your own ability to smell. Smelling your own farts occurs at every Level. You should note that like 80% of our longform videos (this is "under 10 minutes") explicitly state essentially what you're saying, that I don't have the right to talk about this. If you're writing that book with the best sentence ever written (I'm thinking of "cellar door" in Donnie Darko haha), I mean... you can either show what the sentence is, in which case it won't live up to the hype, or not say anything at all. Conceptually, I value people being aware of the conceptual hypothetical possibility of the existence of nondual supermind.

Thanks, you're very kind. So, Wilber will often repeat that you are very likely to get one or two stages if you commit to a regular meditation practice, like 15 minutes to three hours every day. That's like a universal "how do I go up in Levels" answer. Talking about anger, grief, and despair - oh friend, I got em. I was just crying about that myself. The deal is, going up in Levels (imo) will resort in new forms of these negative feelings, while not treating the former ones. Now, you will feel free of those problems. You will stand apart from them, in a sense. But they will continue to dominate your experience in "the relative" or ordinary life and social occasions. So, Integral Theory can help supplement here, but we're actually just talking about conventional therapy, clinical therapy - how do I get rid of the negative? How do I fix my emotions? You know, I get tired of today's narrative... You got problems? Hey, we all do. Maybe it's time you got some help. Have you ever considered therapy? Lol. I'm in therapy. It's great. It certainly isn't a thing where you get better immediately or even quickly, in fact it may often make your issues worse, definitely nothing resembling a "cure" for mental illness, by golly. So, I'm sorry, my friend. Life is painful and unfair, and whenever you trust anyone, you give them the power to sabotage, demoralize, and humiliate you. I choose to weaponize my hurt, use it on someone else rather than myself, use it for something positive rather than fueling the cycle of pain and sorrow. Straight up, this works for me. And probably won't work for most people. But another thing that helps me a lot is just knowing that I'm not alone in my feelings, I'm not alone in what I care about, I'm not alone in being this kind of person, it is okay to share this kind of thing with the right kind of people, and it is possible to reframe your pain, your shame, your tragedy, into a truly beautiful expression of the meaning of your life, through your art, through your care for other people, through the work that you do, through your commitment to the mission of preserving your dignity and self worth, which those people who scarred you will never have, never value, and never even comprehend. And they will punish you as much as you let them, for not being a moral coward as they are. Sorry if that's all rather dark and mean and doesn't apply to you.

Whoa, that's smart. Yeah, my interpretation is that the unconditioned human being is rather empathetic. A large part of what we must de-condition is the fear response, the avoidant response, to the suffering of others. But, you know, like as Rick and Morty points out, the more suffering you're privy to, the more paradoxical empathy can seem. Perhaps in James' case, his experiment with radical empathy seemed to result in a sort of psychic plateau, and a sense of liberation from the supposed "problems" that one assumes one has, because he had correctly intuited that empathy would shake him out of the limitations (victimhood) of egocentric thought patterns.

@@unthinkme_Adamthis sounds right. It matches my nondual run up.

Thank you!

The Baháʼí fait is interesting here. On paper at least, it claims to be a religion that fundamentally accepts all world religious and non-religious perspectives, except where they contradict. Basically, integral religion. No idea what it's actually like, or what scandal happened. If I wanted to be a religion member, that would probably be my jam. If you haven't seen this, it's probably worth your time: kzbin.info/www/bejne/sH22kneMfJmseKc

@ I know someone who converted to Baha’i, It’s arguably an Integral Islam. I do Plum Village Buddhism. It’s a Green/Turquoise Buddhism.

One of the things I love about what Adam is doing is the non-dual/non-binary level of it all. Jordan Thornton appears to be speaking toward a clear gender binary, which is not clear at all in my experience.

@nathancorliss9347 if it's not clear maybe it's calling to be integrated 😉. Thank you for the answer

@@nemesis8599thank you

I feel this is perhaps the "transmutation" of integrating shadow, that it becomes your superpower. Or at least a great motivator!

How could I miss it? It's obvious.

@ It may be

8:05 - 9:33

Haha. I worried about how various people might find it oddly specific, and I'm not denying that you are one person I totally had in mind, but I was really trying to aim at myself and at second tier sorts in general, so it's a huge compliment how creepy I am.

Okay, that one's a thousand percent about sharing my vulnerable treasure with the world on the internet. I generally struggle with the notion that I'm a bummer, a burden, or an inconvenience, in my personal life. It has helped a lot to embrace this idea that people actually miss me, want me around, and want me to join in with their activities and talking, even though I'm weird.

@ You’re going to have to let me know which ones were meant for me 🤣. I do admit I found it highly relatable overall even though sometimes I could tell you were talking about yourself or people in your Discord.

@@unthinkme_Adam Apparently you don’t think you’re attractive enough, also?

what a level 5 coded response lol, rationality is a tool by which we choose belief, ultimately we dont use it because of some objective truth but because they are useful constructs, consistency in your beliefs is important not because theyre meant to simulate some perfect ideal of reality but because of the demands of communication and that consistent systems are easier to work with than inconsistent ones. the point of level 7 is to control these systems of belief (the ego-conscious) in order to obtain stable, efficient systems that satisfy some set of universal values. the ontological claims of religion may or may not be "true" in the scientific, rational sense but they sure as hell are useful and truth isnt some a priori universal to begin with

@bingusiswatching6335 so theres no truth? Way to not understand what i said in my post. Religion cant be true in any sense nor are they useful ...HOW is something not true useful.

Keep these coming, friend. I legitimately like the negative feedback, and am totally open to your perspective, and I'm glad to not have a one-sided deal going on in the comments section.

How is something not true useful? My friend, have you seen the news in the last twenty years? There's one thing everyone agrees on - lying is useful. What I believe you're saying is, how can a person truly understand what religion and science are, and claim to subscribe to both? It's a great question, especially when it keeps the question mark at the end of it. I certainly hold, for myself, that if there is ever any contradiction or conflict, science wins, as it is reflecting concrete data as opposed to cultural belief. However, where I differ, I hold the opinion that any religion, every religion, has a GREAT DEAL to salvage, having been disproven and their deity dethroned and killed, their leaders criminals, and so on. Good sport, for sure. But when I noticed that if you stop thinking, stop pretending to be a critical thinking human person, and just simply look at this experience, and you spend quite a lot of time doing that, you begin to observe as relevant that the religions have been instructing people on how to critically observe and analyse their own psyche, and the nature of reality, and there is a type of truth, of reason, of logic, of knowledge, perhaps, which just utterly has nothing to do with factual proofs or material objects, and has everything to do with uprooting the hidden assumptions of the contemporary egoic human mind.

I don't specifically need to wear women's clothing. I did a video naked recently, too. I agree that gender is a low Level deal, which is why I didn't start doing this a year ago when I started the channel, but have in fact been wearing women's clothing my entire life, totally ashamed of it for about half that time. I apologize for the clumsiness of how I handled that, and I don't think the three videos I made about it helped much. The TLDR of the whole thing, that I guess I failed to convey, is that when I started this channel, the fact that I had been transgender the last ten years was not relevant. As I started showing myself more, and I started being myself more, some segment of people were wierded out that I am utterly gender fluid in terms of my own experience of being a gender, and utterly open to talking about it. I feel like, what you're asking is, why would I chose to wear women's clothing instead of not doing that? But I see it as a choice between wearing women's clothing instead of men's clothing - a choice between the various garments that humans wear and look nice in, and I seem to prefer the ones that are "women's". I feel good about myself when I look cute, pretty, and attractive in a feminine sense, to myself, and I enjoy the experience of my life more when I can do this and it's fine with everyone. No bid deal either way. So then, you're on the path to stage 12, you wear a robe, no sexuality, no identity, no personality, take no wives, father no children, always be cold and hungry. Dope, yeah, you're way cooler than me. You're correct. Feeling good about my appearance is an ego attachment. I'm only trying to "represent" (ugly word) Level 7, with my content. Clearly, I consider your thoughts, and I appreciate and value them.

Spiral Dynamics Altitudes beige infrared purple magenta red red blue amber orange orange green green yellow teal turquoise turquoise coral indigo...,

Is there a sense of being transported through stages 9, 10, and 11 in this experience?

Isn't that the golden question? Yes, many are busy. I would maybe say "fulfilled" in some cases, just off being someone. Some are mystics, isolated, academics, perhaps. I guess I started this channel as a way of setting a homing beacon. Not claiming Turq status or whatever, just saying, that's what I'm up to in real life. I am interpreting "right livelihood" as struggling towards a career that either involves or at least enables... Integral discussion, at the very least.

Thanks! Yeah, we've recently been talking in depth about Indigo in our discussions: kzbin.info/www/bejne/qZyoqaOIbbV6irs Isn't it crazy how Integral gives words to these things that seemed like secrets or... like, impossible to put into any sort of words whatever?

I would be so humiliated to learn that the reason I'm on the watchlist is to do with farting at kids, and nothing to do with any grander narrative. Their aim is true. We can't have people farting on kids. Totally unacceptable.

Yeah, but I'm pretty sure it's already a Smashing Pumpkins album.

Thanks so much! Well, I haven't seen the show, but I watched some clips, and I feel like this character reminds me of friends I grew up with. Perhaps myself, even. Seems pretty intelligent, but that gift is not really acknowledged or nurtured much, and he seems a little damaged, so he's just kind of a weirdo? Leaning towards the spiritual and intellectual, but not really having any cohort or community in that, no support. Has maybe an aloof attitude, because nobody really knows how to bounce back what he throws back. Maybe? I find sometimes in really talented musicians, they have a great deal of trouble communicating, or expressing their emotions, and it's almost like the instrument finally allowed them to get it out, and because it's their only means of truly expressing themselves, it of course arrives to us as a great catharsis and a great revelation, through the metaphor of the medium.

I hope the shadow self is squaring the shoulders. Top Gear... It's a fun idea, right? 100% Cleaning Up caught on tape. Satisfying Self Cleaning and Organizing ASMR. I've got a spreadsheet full of clickbait titles.

@@unthinkme_Adam Thanks! Yeah, Top Gear in the sense it's a car show but the three hosts have so much fun and comedy stuff in it, It appeals to me because I have ADHD. I am brainstorming and working on an Integral project called Samagi SL which is to try to bring Integral to Sri Lanka. But/and I do love the idea of like a talk show like yours because theres so much endless stuff to explore. Keep up the great work!

Talk show - yeah! Hey, you got any requests? Topics or anything? Integral Theory With Mouthful of Saltines and No Water Challenge?

Me? No. Not at all. Sure is a mental construct. How bout yourself?

That's amazing, thanks! I put them in there. I think that helps a lot for videos like this.

@@unthinkme_Adam thanks

Much appreciated!

You’re far too playful and emotional for an intj.very expressive which is indicative of FE

Thank you, yes, it felt wrong to me, too. The INTJ is the "social robot", iirc, aloof and impeccably logical. I actually tested when I was a full time coder, so maybe the "Feeling" judgment comes out more as a KZbinr. I stopped trying to be Mr. Spock because people don't even like it if you're good at it, which I never was. I appreciate your bid for INFJ (that's my aunt's type that she thinks is so special haha) - it's almost certainly better than my guess, or whatever free test I took on the internet way back when. I'll think about it a bit, and probably mention it next time Types come up. <3

I have this weird thing where I can bare my soul and share everything with total strangers, no embarrassment, but communicating to someone I'm very close and comfortable with, when there's a problem, when I'm upset with them, I'm at the level of a six year old. Would that mean that Fi is shadow, and Fe is strong? Or is that even the same thing?

Frankly, I’m very similar (intp) and I think it’s a consequence of the feeling function generally. I think the best way to find out which feeling function you have is whether you prioritize the feelings and emotional atmosphere of others (Fe) or your own (Fi). You being able to bear your soul to a random person and struggle doing the same with a close one does sound like Fe. I’m similar to a different degree in which I am far more concerned with the opinions and emotional well-being of strangers than I am with people I’m close with. The INTJ really is the most robotic human, and tend to be cold and non-charismatic. You totally personify the “advocate” archetype of the INFJ just by your videos and your general goal of spreading enlightening theories. Your aunt is right lol, the infj is a pretty special type. Ni is deep and piercing, and with Fe it is wiser and more holistic than it would be with Te

I agree with INFJ for me, having read more. I took another free online test and got INTJ again, but I agree that watching my behavior tells a different story than my inner self perception - it's kind of tripping me out, actually. I certainly have known the Mr. Spock emotionless logic robot person, several of them, and sitting next to them, it's almost impossible to ignore how much more Feeling I'm expressing. Now, it should be noted that my actual scores on the binary functions were like a 52%/48% split, particularly I/E and T/F, while the N/S split was 80%/20% (entirely consistent whether T or F is my auxiliary). It seems like the inferior function integration is clear: that's plenty of N. More S please! 😂 It's so true! I struggle with the specifics of Fi and Fe. I think perhaps most people would see it as obvious that Fe would be sharing your own Feeling with others, as opposed to being open to other people sharing their Feeling. So, if a person seems terribly "Extraverted," in that they totally dominate a conversation and take all the attention, but they are only talking about their own values and morals, and totally closed off to the other person's cues and attempts to cut in... would that actually be Introversion? Or just impulsive behavior (a Levels, not Types, issue)? I'm not clear on that. Currently, what I'm thinking is that commonplace "extraversion" has to do with self esteem and maturity, the capacity to participate in social activites (maturity/Levels), and this concept is slightly different from the I/E of cognitive functions. In functions, it seems like Extraversion is more about being receptive to the external, and Introversion is more about holding tight to your internal reality. It seems like E is less a preference for social interaction and sharing, and more to do with being receptive to externals and others - and I think most people consider a good listener "introverted". #confused

Thanks! Every time I revisit the MBTI concept, it makes a little more sense. When I brought it back to this sort of gross simplification of Your Brain Does Four Things, prove me wrong by doing something else with your brain right now, and the OG Jung Types, it really became a more immediate and compelling topic for me - and I know that a lot of people see and use the model differently. My understanding of MBTI is very basic. In Integral Theory, the crux of the discussion comes down to comparatively assessing the quality of Big 5(+) Traits, MBTI, Enneagram, gender-based theories, etc, or various Types systems, and then how to blend or mix them, do they agree or disagree with one-another, whether to disqualify, eliminate, elevate, or advocate for one model or the another, and finally, how does this Type system mesh or fit in with, inform, or obfuscate Levels, Quadrants, etc.

omg that's perfect. Man goes to the doctor says I hurt, doctor says stop doing that, so he does. Okay, I lied. Nothing ever happened.