most of my life I thought in stage 5 but recently, from 2020 to 2025 I had developed stage 8/9 thinking. I got my first schizo diagnoses when I was 21 in 2023. I live now very sad becasue I do not achieve the things I want in life such as hot girlfriend or prolific mathematical work
@CrimsonKnightmare120 сағат бұрын
I do laugh at the funny comments which I have read quite a bit of. If I had come across this video in my freshmen-junior year of high school I definitely would have also said things like this is all garbage or horoscopes. It's funny to see the development of myself through others. Of course, those who think it's all mumbo jumbo are just as right as those who think it's meaningful =)
@AlbertBalbastreMorte22 сағат бұрын
Number 2 sounds fun 😅
@PlayTheColorfulCreature22 сағат бұрын
????????? WHAT IS THIS? WHY'S EVERYBODY SUPPORTING PSYCHODRUGS? ???????? WTF
@johnbrown456822 сағат бұрын
Thank you for posting this overview of Ken Wilber’s post-postmodern philosophy termed Integral Theory.
@poopadoopalisКүн бұрын
Why are all the people black
@thoryan3057Күн бұрын
Thank you so much for this video, it all makes a ton more sense for me now! I've been using how easy it is to manage my mental health as a measuring stick up to this point rather than quadrants and lines haha. I guess for me what matters the most are the thinking and feeling, because these give me the buffer I need for my mental health to be easier managed, like a dosage of a medication. But if I "do" too much at the lower levels it'll pull down my thinking and feeling. In our society, I imagine that the "doing" pulls down all of our centers of gravity. Thinking/feeling Turquoise is the best protection against my mental health but I still prefer Teal because I can't interact with my surroundings in the ways I need/want to at Turquoise. When I think/feel in Teal Zeal (my personal lowest Tier 2, distinct from Teal and Turquoise) then I know something is wrong, and I need to practice mindfulness to figure out what the problem is to get back up from Teal Zeal to Teal. Teal Zeal is infinitely better than Yellow (my personal highest Tier 1) though and where I am in life with my external circumstances I can't manage my mental health at Yellow, so whenever I drop from Teal to Teal Zeal I always make it a priority to find a way to get back up to Teal so that I don't accidentally wake up one morning at Yellow, trapped in my ego. Then getting back to Teal Zeal from Yellow is incredibly difficult, and could take many days, weeks, or even years, because it requires another, (and usually new) aha moment to break through the barrier into Tier 2. Tier 2 with a separation of ego is the only way I can breath because of how much sh*t has hit the fan externally haha.
@jazzmastajКүн бұрын
I really like your stuff, really interesting and your thinking is really cogent. Did Ken Wilber get a lot of criticism for his ideas? What’s your opinion on criticisms on this thought system?
@alextrusk1986Күн бұрын
Wouldn't a conservation with frank yang be a good idea talking about non duality
@Osean_ManКүн бұрын
Ultraviolet scared me.
@Adon_keyКүн бұрын
I think we can enter the upper light tiers if we experience joy, forgiveness or something like the opposite of a traumatic event. Its fleeting, but i think it's the closest we get. Because before you remember worry, loss or responsibility. You just are.
@unthinkme_AdamКүн бұрын
Peak states are free. There's a lot to let go of in order to solidify forgiveness as a more permanent trait. Not sure I'm doing it right, but so far, lots of crying.
@Adon_keyКүн бұрын
@unthinkme_Adam realize the chains are self imposed, that's where your freedom lies Chains make a wonderful weapon, tame them before they slay you. This may have came off harsh, but I mean no ill will. Just sharing my eyes.
@offthedeepend762Күн бұрын
Bro read one book and went off the deep end
@360.TapestryКүн бұрын
gave a like for the vocalizations alone lol
@pebnutКүн бұрын
🥳
@taqweenie8909Күн бұрын
I have a hard time sharing and discussing the things i feel and think. Because i see my own thoughts and feelings as a virus that corrupts the dialogue i wanted to have. I just dont feel apart of but just alongside of things.. I love you guys
@unthinkme_AdamКүн бұрын
Thanks! Me too, absolutely. I've come to accept and even enjoy being an outsider. While emotional wiring and my own foibles are a sort of virus, it's another sort of virus to feel unwelcome or unworthy. I'm really trying to act as though everyone, even me, can provide value and be accepted, and doing so has really helped me to find the venues and spaces where it's actually true! 💚💟🖤😘
@aghorismoКүн бұрын
Thank you!
@ladendeer4428Күн бұрын
Very cool 😎
@johnbrown4568Күн бұрын
Thank you for this presentation.
@decadesyearoldthingsreview6595Күн бұрын
We need to Integrate the higher tiers into the secular paradigm so more people can get it. I understand it is a semantic puzzle as these states are hard to talk about besides this way
@decadesyearoldthingsreview6595Күн бұрын
I must be just a tiny bit lingering in teal just barely embraced Green but I know it is the funny and cool and amazing thing you did where you secularised the system finaly. Meaning to say you semantically transferred to the orange lingo tyty
@unthinkme_AdamКүн бұрын
Maybe my "Spiritual" Line of development finally caught up to Orange. The secular can be very spiritual even while dismissing traditional and mystical notions.
@wardulens76072 күн бұрын
Past turqoise it becomes flowery prozaic deepities.
@ducks1252 күн бұрын
I have yet to explore Ken Wilber’s works, but based on this, I am *extremely* curious. I am wondering (and am apologetic if this is ignorant), once you reach that timeless state, Nondual Supermind, is it forever? As in, it is meant to be something like an “accession” where you permanently are detached from “objective” reality? Is it even necessarily a state? I am fully open to checking out your other content, or any of Ken Wilber’s works, if it touches on these question’s concepts
@unthinkme_AdamКүн бұрын
A particular peculiarity of Nondual is that yes, it is forever, it always has been. You were never not free. Recognizing that, and embodying it, is a State, and can be a Level if the recognition is permanent. Be wary of people who claim ownership of the state, though. It sounds contradictory, but a common metaphor goes: the Nondual enlightenment turns on the lights. When the lights go back off, you still "know" what's in the room, even if you can't see it now. Wilber does touch on these topics, mostly in the sense of organizing them. The actual sources for this information are coming from a comparative analysis of the esoteric contemplative core of all major religious/spiritual systems. Good old Buddhism, at its core, integrated with good old Western psychology.
@aichi3372 күн бұрын
It's not a coincidence that this releases on my birthday
@unthinkme_AdamКүн бұрын
Mine was the 6th. ;)
@360.Tapestry3 күн бұрын
i think of them as concentric circles
@unthinkme_Adam3 күн бұрын
Me too!
@iron_jpg3 күн бұрын
11
@milaskygaming353818 сағат бұрын
I think you might be disassociating dude, are you alr?
@alextrusk19863 күн бұрын
Unthinkme is better then Contrapoints
@julian98983 күн бұрын
Lol i second this 😂
@unthinkme_Adam3 күн бұрын
lol we need to join forces. She has awesome production quality, I have anything to say.
@MA-ResearchEdu-e9l3 күн бұрын
I do feel like a prisoner to this life. I have experienced NDE’s which compelled to me to realise it is wrong to try to escape. So I surrendered to staying and living the extent of my life. But I can’t wait for this universe to allow me to naturally leave this life. Hopefully one day.
@unthinkme_Adam3 күн бұрын
That's a very uncommon mindset. I'm absolutely sure that you will get to die eventually, but in the meantime, maybe it would be enjoyable to spend more time out of body, like astral projecting, or in nirvana. I doubt it would be the same as an NDE, but a lot of people experience those states as a form of liberation from the experience of mortal waking life, and from suffering.
@yusufkutluca29374 күн бұрын
The man who created this list has the same brain as a child. Gaining consciousness is not about sorting out possibilities, it is not about thinking about what substances you are made of and applying the properties of these substances to yourself.
@unthinkme_Adam3 күн бұрын
Everyone has the same brain as a child. Any old baby. It develops by learning memes.
@EefLeaf014 күн бұрын
I was following until turquoise
@unthinkme_Adam4 күн бұрын
You're an integral developer, Harry!
@luminary_clarity4 күн бұрын
Similar to most things, I definitely see this as a scale that can be traveled fluidly. Between doing past life work and also being human, it’s fun to move between it all
@005Turk4 күн бұрын
People will talk like ultraviolet mind and then still support imperialism
@makdhy4 күн бұрын
So chudjack was right...
@unthinkme_Adam4 күн бұрын
Nobody is smart enough to be wrong all the time. ~ Ken Wilber
@gloriousforever34515 күн бұрын
so this is what relgions truly are? a sort of mistranslation of a higher understanding of reality? higher human development? i kind of understood them this way but find it hard to transcend and really get there. it makes sense to me that the lower levels use religion as a type of ego shield and the dissolution and breaking of this ego occurs when more of the layers of reality are unveiled. ex: an amber person refuses to accept evolution, because to their limited understanding it means that they ‘came from a monkey’ and would rather believe that they were personally created by God to appease their ego. It seems to me that Ken Wilber seems to believe that evolution is true but it IS a process of intelligence branching out into a physical manifestation. Idk, I could be completely wrong and spouting ninsense
@unthinkme_Adam3 күн бұрын
Naw, I think you're nailing it. Totally, totally nailing it. In a sense, every religion starts with some person, either real or folk tale, who has a State of consciousness that uncovers our true nature as the spirit of the universe pretending to be an individual person existing in time. That fundamental is-ness, the "being" of us, through it's urge to exist, "created" this world by evolving from more primitive to more complicated expressions of consciousness. Now, as a person sees this, they go to teach it, and everything is lost in translation, but the people see that there's SOMETHING here that needs to be preserved. And so the history of religion is people getting better and better (or worse in many cases) at understanding what that thing is - that perennial wisdom, that universal spirituality. They understand it at Levels. Those Levels form civilizations. Of course, it's easy to totally fake sacred spiritual knowledge, to exploit religion, and there's always some element of that as well. Kind of in step with what you're suggesting, Darwinian evolution is truly a more evolved "spirituality" than concrete-literal creationism. It requires a humbling of the self, an acceptance of the nature of reality, and a more discerning intellect. It requires the "sacrifice" of enduring the discomfort of not being special because a guy named God created your body physically in the center of the heavens, but instead having the grace to recognize that you are special because Spirit inhabited an unfathomable number of creatures from single cells to fish to lizards to rodents and all the countless generations of ancestors fighting tooth and nail in this accelerating process of matter coming to life and learning to sing and dance. I mean, what kind of maniac would be ashamed of that? No, not me, I'm a tinker toy. My purpose is to marry a lady and follow the instructions to get into heaven. It's incredibly ironic.
@offthedeepend7625 күн бұрын
What dark hole did i just fall into
@unthinkme_Adam3 күн бұрын
Integral Theory.
@petergriffin99315 күн бұрын
Nonsense but cool watch
@unthinkme_Adam3 күн бұрын
Thanks!
@NewQuinnProductions5 күн бұрын
Why is Jay Bauman in the thumbnail?
@ImpatientTheist4 күн бұрын
Is that the guy from Reno 911?
@unthinkme_Adam3 күн бұрын
People were saying James looks like Jay, and he didn't know who that was. He looked it up, and the first thing that came up was "noted internet douchebag Jay Bauman." Also, yes, he is 100% the guy from Reno 911
@ArtanDanish5 күн бұрын
Bull carp
@unthinkme_Adam3 күн бұрын
🐟
@samant71016 күн бұрын
Turquoise is based, everything goes to shit starting with Indigo
@unthinkme_Adam3 күн бұрын
Perfect! We need Turquoise. I did a terrible job of describing the stages after Turquoise anyway. I'd be very happy with more Turquoise.
@GamerBroAdalian6 күн бұрын
I'd say I align with the Superintegral approach to describing conscious awareness, which is terrifying for how well you described it verbally 😂
@unthinkme_Adam3 күн бұрын
Yeah, I nailed a couple of those stages. "Turquoise be spittin hard." A couple stages, I didn't do so well. Kind of embarrassed about Indigo and Magenta.
@JackNowhere6 күн бұрын
1 - most basic instincts 2 - worship stuff, tradition, rituals and dances 3 - only trust self, only strong survive 4 - respect authority, punish bad people, rules good 5 - world is logical, reasonable people can coexist very simply 6 - the world is interpreted into being , sensitive multicultural , work on self, environmentalist stuff, we are bad we must change morally 7 - Philosophical views are one, agonistic 8 - everything wvrrywhere all at once , manifestation 9 - other realms stuff you are spiritual etc , basically LDS 10 - Am I going insane 11 - You have become alienated from reality. Cast off your attachments. 12 - Ego is fake and misleading you. You are conscious, nothing else. You are nothing. You imagine yourself. 13 - We are just conscious, here now forever. Nothing else is real but now.
@unthinkme_Adam3 күн бұрын
I feel like your 1-6 are better than my script. Your descriptions of 7-11 make me feel like my script was so bad that you don't get what the stage is supposed to be. Particularly 9, lol LDS, that's hilarious and probably accurate. Your description of 12 is exactly what I would call 9. Your description of 13 is exactly what I would call 11.
@JackNowhere3 күн бұрын
@unthinkme_Adam well, to quote a friend of mine, the last level is realizing that there are no levels :)
@unthinkme_AdamКүн бұрын
@JackNowhere Yes, and actually, MOST of the Levels are realizing there are no Levels. Level 7 is realizing there are Levels.
@KrampusDerWilde7 күн бұрын
From amber to turquoise I consider them morons, the rest are good and true. Explain that.
@unthinkme_Adam3 күн бұрын
I'm assuming this is sort of an ecological position? Amber begins the process of successful colonization, industrialization, people living in fear and out of touch with their body-mind and spirituality, disconnected from nature, and this continues until perhaps one day we regain our holistic nature as integrated psyche beings at Indigo. This is what Integral Theory would call romanticism. Like, valuing the "Garden of Eden" of ancient cultures or the "innocence" of young children. And this isn't a criticism; those are legit dignities to be held in the balance. The thing is, though, the child will never "go back". Society will never "go back". The good news is, we can integrate the inner child, and we can create an environmentally sustainable global tech base. The bad news is, the way out is through. The tanks will roll over the villagers with spears. The kid has to get a job. Currently. But we create the Future.
@Mr.Bag0077 күн бұрын
Magenta and Indigo are basically the same, both communing with unseen realms
@unthinkme_Adam3 күн бұрын
In Magenta, you believe in the unseen. In Indigo, you perceive it. Not "see" in the visual sense, but comprehend. Like, for example, "I am not Adam, there is no 'I', those are imaginary constructs. There is just this awareness which contains Adam and this environment and these thoughts and feelings." That's not visual, but it's something I directly experience as real right now. And Magenta might repeat those "holy words" as some sort of mantra or incantation, not realizing that they are meant very literally, but they require a level of abstraction that Magenta is incapable of.
@comrade_liam54668 күн бұрын
1. Neoprimitivism 2. Primitive conservatism 3. Eugenics 4. Common liberals 5. Libertarians 6. Progressives 7. Postmodernists 8. Metamodernists 9-12. I’m not sure what to call this
@unthinkme_Adam3 күн бұрын
That's really cool! It's like, present-day political theories that are heavily concentrated expressions of Altitudes. It seems like you're bucking the trends of typical interpretations of the model with a more conservative-leaning analysis. And I think that's very creative and very called-for.
@volodya3b168 күн бұрын
I don't know how to feel but I found myself thinking like the red altitude when I finished a chaotic, toxic relationship, I felt so irrational.
@unthinkme_Adam3 күн бұрын
Heartbreak and betrayal can be a prime cause of regression, just as love can be a prime driver of growth. I found myself regressing to Amber and saying things like, "She's just plain evil, just a bad person. She makes no sense, too stubborn to follow the rules. Literally her only goal was to deliberately hurt me." And yeah... maybe for a couple of weeks, I did get down into that Red zone, but probably best not to talk about that here. 😆
@MindManiacMarcus8 күн бұрын
Damn, thank you so much for this. The first couple times I ran into him I didn't really get it, this time. I was like dude. This guy knows what he's talking about. Completely agreed with him and very useful stuff. Then you look him up and everyone's just trash talking him and their arguments. Are you know rather shallow. It's kind of sad to see
@unthinkme_Adam3 күн бұрын
Right? Internet culture radically distorts the perception of Ken Wilber.