What Levels of Consciousness Actually Are: THE INTEGRAL DEVELOPER WORLDVIEW

[@TheIgnoramus]

Wonderful. Well done, and thank you. The world is fractal, light is the carrier wave of consciousness. Light can only exist between two points of matter. One with the other, and tying a moment into eternity.

[@unthinkme_Adam]

Thanks!

[@Bubba_Grimm]

It's cool how metacognition is basically light, among less energetic waveforms of various origins, being refracted through an insanely complex evolving prism of reflecting and inverting feedback loops, allowing for the intersectional dimension of the past, time, memory, and the future, space, potentiality, to expand and contract metaphysically as one continuous moment of experienced spacetime. And how the waveform in general is the ultimate reductive expression of evolution, the smallest fractal form of universal consciousness; the ultimate meme if you will. 3,∆,📈📉

[@zulgo]

Attention people we have a Well researched individual right here

[@Dm145_F36]

Integral = we develop through these stages, different people may be at different stages, and each person’s worldview is shaped by the stage they’re in Holistic = all stages are present, and the way they mesh together create the challenges and opportunities that lead to further development? Is this explanation on track?

[@unthinkme_Adam]

I like that. Particularly, I think Holistic factors in Lines, Types, States, and Quadrants, and other possible modalities (other than Ken Wilber AQAL modules) that interact with Levels. I see Teal as the Levels purists - they are kind of obsessed with consciousness evolution. I'm probably a good example of Teal.

[@Dm145_F36]

@unthinkme_Adam any good recommendations on how to learn about those other modalities? I’ve watched a small handful of your videos and I’ve seen them referenced in a “here’s how they fit into integral theory” way but I haven’t had a chance to sit with them yet so it’s hard for me to connect the dots

[@unthinkme_Adam]

@@Dm145_F36 Integral Theory is where you learn all about Quadrants and Levels. Lines is basically anything to do with human development or acquiring talents or abilities. So, take guitar lessons, you're developing the "musical" Line. Study Buddhism, you're working on the Spiritual Line. States comes down to transcendental state practice - for example, learning yoga, ecstatic dance, meditation. For Types, the enneagram is popular, Carl Jung's work heavily explores Types (informing Myers-Briggs Types), and in mainstream psychology, the Big 5 Personality Traits and even the DSM V is a clinical Type system.

[@nathancorliss9347]

Slow up, I’m not done unthinking me yet

[@unthinkme_Adam]

Go into the settings, they let you watch it at any speed you want these days! 🦥🦥

[@fratparty69]

​@@unthinkme_Adam Ye but it soundsike shit. As someone who took an edible and found this video while wandering on the schizo side of youtube. I think it's the way you choose to express yourself thats kinda hard to understand, not the speed

[@TheIgnoramus]

@@fratparty69sounds great to me, I think what you said more of your current viewpoint, than his presentation, don’t you think?

[@fratparty69]

@@TheIgnoramus you think .75 speed sounds good? You must have terrible hearing bruh

[@unthinkme_Adam]

@@fratparty69 ​ That's fair. I notice that other channels who do Integral Theory tend to do it in an extremely similar manner, hitting the same points in the same order, using the same examples, etc. I find that dry and tiresome. I try to deliver the material more as an artsy storyteller, trying to make it more fun and relatable, and often only accomplishing cheesy. If you just want the info, you might try @thelivingphilosophy, @Wakeupcrashingontheshoresof8, or the many videos put out by Ken Wilber himself and his affiliates. For some reason, you're here dissing on me, not them, so I feel like I'm doing something right. 😎

[@fifth.temple]

Holy shit. This might be the "History of the Entire Universe i guess" of Integral. Bravo! The holon_math gag had me dead. I think my favorite part of this is your tone. So often Integral is presented in a very straightforward and majestic way, that actually aesthetically to me has always felt a bit out of touch with the content and the attitude. This jester-like presentation to me actually feels more of the Metamodern mood, in some way more actually native to the stage as opposed to wearing the Rational garments to trick the psyche's woo gaurds. Thank you big brother, lets go!

[@alphachicken9596]

Love your tone. Love me esotericists who can just talk normally. Love you too comrade.

[@Iightbeing]

You are golden, elite tier insight and delivery.

[@Iightbeing]

Immediately subscribed. Excellent presentation

[@nokings92]

First timer. It seems like you are having a blast making this video especially. And, if that's you singing in the intro, you sound great!

[@DennisKwasnycia]

The evil laugh had me chuckling. You can be my cult leader if we're having this much fun.

[@hyphenated-d9x]

This is wonderful. Subscribed.

[@henrikdutz9201]

This was lovely. thank you!

[@theredgoblin562]

Metaphysics, philosophy, epistimology, theosophy are all essentially the same thing but manifest as very different fields

[@karupt422]

1 of those is unlike the other

[@musingsofayom]

I’m pretty sure I’m right where you’re at. I ended up stumbling on this line of thinking via learning about Cybernetics. I called that spectrum of Holons “Existential Density” and each Holon I called “Homeostatic Units”. It’s in the first video on my channel I think. My view was less dynamical though. Less the sense of “progression” or evolution, but more just mapping the components. However, I do have a question for you that has been bugging me more and more lately. What do you make of this “evolution” itself? I am weary and cautious in the sense that there is any system that can contain all of humanity’s complexity. What this is is making a kind of meta language to describe what the universing (verb) is really about. What do universes do? However, I worry that this is a step towards a Brave New World scenario or some kind of Spiritual Caste System, not bound by anything other than people’s minds. Minds that can be measured & assessed with the technology we have now, with an effective internet scrapping tech & maybe some form of Digital ID. It’s not impossible to create. Is that a good thing? I mean maybe it sustains order but there is a tension between order and chaos that is very tentative. To me, I can’t commit completely to just Faith in an ordering progressive process of the universe, even Evolution, simply because many people point to it as the thing that is happening. Its universality gives it mechanistic authority right? But I don’t know if I can say that that also gives moral authority. At least not without some clear sense of what Good is from the root of the system (which I haven’t seen yet OR made myself). Good seems perpetually relative to the reference, and saying one is more developed is still a moral statement leaning on complexity of thought. Fair but still relative I feel like that is a very manipulable position to be in intellectually & spiritually. It is necessary that we define the ultimate destination or goal of this process, in my opinion. Because without it, “Progress” can be whatever anyone imagined it to be and yet justify anything. Similar to how physics’ end destination is the Heat Death of the Universe, or Christianity has an end destination with Heaven with God & the saved, this must also have an implied destination & just having it be ‘infinite progress’ feels like a Memetic Blackhole that can paradoxically self reference itself, like a cancer multiplying itself. If that is something you can discuss (or have already), I’d greatly appreciate it. It’s a moral issue I’ve been struggling with that has really shut me down greatly.

[@HoboGardenerBen]

Good stuff, thanks. I kept on thinking about optics, focus shifting, the way things look different as the lens shape changes and which part of the beam is being perceived. Where the camera is pointed and how big the field of view are all matter. There's perception outside the self but also within and the connections between self and all the systems that make up everything. Taking hallucinogens can be like a chaotic trip all throughout these levels, but it's not permanent. I can't even properly remember the tripping self unless I am in that state of being, then it's all there like a fish in water again. That me can handle it, but me without that input has inherently less open percpetion. Hard to get any of the day to day survival needs met if in a state of ecstatic non-being all the time, our brain is geared for survival. The self is probably just a regulatory mechanism of this bit of genetic code. A bit of twisted strands of chemical language can hold all the information for new people to become for a temporary period of time, whatever that is. I mostly let that stuff be a mystery and focus on grounded stuff. I'm going to buy raw land and make an abundant natural orchard garden and share food and teach volunteers how to garden in relative harmony with the thin skin of life on the surface of this planet. I aim for the best, as I can understand that to even mean, for whatever I'm working but accept that I never get there and just stay there. At best I drift through the peak of my understanding once in a while, which is still a super-limited bit of fluff, an optical perspective. Always circling around my subjective sense of what is best and continuously try to expand what that even means for me.

[@brrbrr1390]

Maybe its because im stuck on level 7 but it seems like the historical achievement of the higher levels (i.e. hinduism and buddhism) seem to contradict the idea that to progress you need to attain each level. Someone like the buddha must have had only level 4 before they seemingly shot up to level 10 or 11. Especially 5 and 6 seem to be descriptions of frameworks that only exist in the modern world

[@amreview5616]

hey the one thing i always wonder about this stuff, if you say to understand you must be wrong, and you’re on this wave of learning and growing and being okay with being wrong how can you hold such strong seemingly absolute beliefs about the universe ?

[@rippleresonate1056]

you are speaking my life and language beef. wild wavy word wizardry

[@AEONIC_MUSIC]

Just like abstractions in programming.

[@unthinkme_Adam]

Exactly. Ken Wilber specifically calls Integral Theory "a framework" and "an operating system".

[@We_Love_Eli]

how am i supposed to send this to my christian brother when you call yourself the devil at the end😭

[@MarcOlsen-u1x]

Hey man, I love the effort you put into your videos. I do have one tip for you though, which is to deliver your points faster and without all the excess humor. The humor is not bad, in my opinon, but you need to cut these segments (for example with the cat) shorter, as to not exhaust the viewers' (who mainly clicked on the video to get the infos about the topic) attention span. Keep it up man!

[@Gringar-h6m]

You sound like a hermit recording this in a cave 😂 props 👍

[@ChrisTalley-ei9qg]

They are spaciousness

[@ChrisTalley-ei9qg]

From this utilitarian perspective

[@Miguel_Cartaxo]

Based

[@Bubba_Grimm]

The answer is the number 3. Enjoy not seeing the matrix of waveforms while you can. (Nothing→anything/something→everything) 🖤=✡️=(📈📉{[📈📉]📈📉})=☯️=🤍 Ω>∞∆³

[@trambly611]

Loved the video. Do you think communism is the inevitable porgresssion from capitalism as History is the progression of reason

[@unthinkme_Adam]

I think that Marx was on to something, and yes, capitalism is to rationality as "communism" is to sensitive pluralism. As Ayn Rand states, the world has never seen a capitalist nation. USA is heavily regulated. Likewise, the world has never seen a communist nation. China, Russia, et al are totalitarian fascist regimes simply calling themselves "communism". But I do think the direction is ever towards the public having more sovereignty and control of the means of production, and whatever could be called "development" would be increasingly fair in terms of the opportunities and protections available to the populace.

[@oskarsamsel5903]

after watching this video they put me in mental asylum. very cool stuff

[@theredgoblin562]

Your at the ego level lmao. You think the only thing we need to reconcile about a developmental universe is mean old people? Purpose and eternity are at direct odds you goofball. Imperfect reality is at odds with a perfect creator.

[@dakottalee3516]

I can tell you are alone and upset. I think you could get more alone, and upsetter when you realize that words are just ideas weve agreed upon. But whos we? Look kid. You are dreaming. All is you. What you ate creates a shadow. What you are shows you what your not. Chill brothu ❤❤❤ relax sistu ;)

[@millotilobilo8278]

Bro is slowly losing it😭 but I love it

[@Gbonk]

Calling everything consciousness or everything imaginary or everything holons isn’t saying anything at all though no? Because relativity and contrast is what makes these things and for everything to be one thing there’s no relativity. So ur just saying sounds, same way after level 7 the moments and enlightenment ‘now’ isn’t saying anything because it applies to everything u just going ‘agh’ metaphorically

[@unthinkme_Adam]

@@Gbonk kinda sorta. The point is we're saying the same thing. Calling everything atoms or conciousness or perspectives or social construction makes us feel like we "get it" when words are wind.

[@Bubba_Grimm]

It's not that everything is consciousness, its more like everything is a waveform, and so is consciousness... The universe itself is possibly a virtual quantum particle! Fractals! Time doesn't just evolve forward, it's also inward (I would argue we should use upward rather than forward, with space evolving downward and outward), so there might be maximum states of potential beyond the boundaries of the big bang and the quantum realm. These are the boundaries between past and future universes that are all simultaneously existing, obscured by these moments of maximum potentiality, the nothingness of the dissipation of the previous universe, as there must be a fractal layering of time as well! It's not that nothing just means anything, it's that nothing memes everything... Nothing being the state of maximum potentiality, of course. Basically we are also nothing absent our experiencial perspective as well, itself a kind of boundaried universe of fractality. The problem is, we are talking about such fundamental things that none of this is neither useful nor relevant to most people's lives unless they are just genuinely curious enough to even go through the trouble of grasping this stuff, let alone blazing new paths of utility using any of it.

[@unthinkme_Adam]

@@Bubba_Grimm and not only that, but I guess it's to expose the unchecked assumption that we each either consciously or unconsciously do carry some sort of metaphysical assumption which falls into categories and these are developmental according to the assumption category that the basis is developmental levels.

[@uwayn9829]

Panpsychist enjoyer ?