Part of the problem is stain. It soaks into the grain of the wood and deadens it. Best to seal the grain before any varnish work.
@parsakalantari7488Ай бұрын
very nicely done
@paulhammer13633 ай бұрын
Glen Larson sounds best by far. The Stentor and Aeirsi are decent, though. I also have a fiddle that I bought "in the white" and had it finished by a local luthier. It sounds way better than any commercial fiddle I've ever heard.
@ThePrairieFiddler3 ай бұрын
It's virtually always better when a luthier takes the time to properly tune the plates. I'm not extremely good at it, but it still beats most 'factory' instruments.
@franciscoflores36744 ай бұрын
#4 Glen Larson. 👍
@ThePrairieFiddler4 ай бұрын
Haha. Thanks!
@katamuski3 ай бұрын
@@ThePrairieFiddler realmente el último violín es el que más me gusta...no sé de dónde lo has sacado pero me encantaría tener uno!!!!!
@ThePrairieFiddler3 ай бұрын
@@katamuski Thanks. This was a Chinese violin that I graduated, finished and set up myself. In the years since this video, I have specialized mostly in providing beginners with affordable, good sounding instruments. You can learn more on my blog at www.glenclarson.com
@wowtac5476 ай бұрын
I’m interested in what your thoughts are on the sinoman violins especially there $500-$1000 range. I’ve heard some people compare Eastman and them every now and then and they seem like a good option
@ThePrairieFiddler6 ай бұрын
@@wowtac547 They could be. I'm sorry, but I haven't any experience with them. I did have a Scott Cao 750E. It was pretty good.
@GodAnd_I7 ай бұрын
How would one know what type of Eastman violin they have ?
@ThePrairieFiddler7 ай бұрын
Should have a label inside that indicates VL80, VL100, VL305 ETC. I believe it goes up to 605 but they also make other brands such as Doetch. My opinion is they don't start getting to be decent quality until 305 or better.
@GodAnd_I7 ай бұрын
@@ThePrairieFiddler mine reads N1400 and No. V44. What does this mean?
@ThePrairieFiddler7 ай бұрын
@@GodAnd_I I'm not entirely sure, but N1400 is possibly of their Dunov line? I think that's in the higher end. Don't quote me on this, as I'm by no means an expert.
@JesseBrazilViolin10 ай бұрын
don't clean to much just a little because you can wipe the varnish off. lol Luckily its towards the frog and the rest of the bow looks good still, but I kept rubbing what looked like dirt and instead it was varnish coming off. Maybe not a tigerwood bow after all. Still looks french because of the circle shape under the frog.
@JesseBrazilViolin10 ай бұрын
Thanks you helped me remember I bought some citris cleaner called De-Solv-it. It worked great on glass and even better on my 200 year old french bows tiger wood!
@kc8hyg11 ай бұрын
Dragon is much better
@patriciagallagher567111 ай бұрын
The last one sounds the best
@Calatriste54 Жыл бұрын
Bravo. Appreciated. Have been considering making a Fiddle and learning to play. My GGGrandfather was wounded in the arm at Shiloh. He played, though I've no idea what became of his instrument..
@timjohnson1105 Жыл бұрын
Glen, I see in one of your comments that you think it’s well worth opening this kit up and fine tuning the plates. Is this something you have done with this kit? I have a brand new kit sitting on my bench and hide glue ready to go. I’ve never worked with hide glue but I understand the plates should come off fairly easily.
@ThePrairieFiddler Жыл бұрын
Yes, thinning or tuning the plates(not necessarily the same thing) was one of the two times I took it apart to fix mistakes. It made a marked difference in the sound. The other time I took it apart was to change the length of the neck, which I had made too long.
@ThePrairieFiddler Жыл бұрын
One thing I have found is that the hide glue does not need to be too thick. It will come apart much easier next time if the glue is not too strong.
@timjohnson1105 Жыл бұрын
Did you pull apart the front and back plates on the body latter on? I’m looking into doing that first. I have a thickness gauge and thumb planes. I hope to tune the plates, just wasn’t sure how difficult I should expect it to be.
@ThePrairieFiddler Жыл бұрын
@timjohnson1105 only the top has to come off. Shouldn't be too hard, but there is a technique to it alright. Should be lots of help on KZbin. If you'd like to see how I tune plates, you can email me at www.glenclarson.com and I'll share. For what it's worth.
@ChrisEbbrsen Жыл бұрын
Dear Sir, I have successfully used eucalptus oil to clean bow stick. It does not appear to remove any of the varnish on my current bows. I have also used eucalptus oil on my violin bodies without any harm. I use a mixture of white vingar 5% and t.s.p. to spray onto toilet paper thence to bow hairs to remove grease. Ordinary rubbing alcohol 70% is what I use to rid my bow hairs of excess dirty rosin. Remove frog hold stick upside down vertically and skip rope with the loose bow hairs until reasonably dry. I dont mean to litterally skip rope, just whirl the horsehair in the air like when skipping rope. This should airate the hair and evaporate the alcohol after 2 to 3 minutes of twirling in the air. Then shake out bow with frog dangling and reinsert frog into mortice in bow stick. An ordinary fine comb can straiten hairs if used gently. Hope this helps.😅
@ChrisEbbrsen Жыл бұрын
To my ears the Eastman sounded fuller smoother. Thank you for comparison.
@ThePrairieFiddler Жыл бұрын
I think they are very even. Unfortunately, my playing isn't quite good enough to really get a good comparison.
@ChrisEbbrsen Жыл бұрын
Liked the tone of the violin in white you put together. The earlier. Stained violin sounded Skippy or wheeze. I read some where that the acids in dyes used to tint violins is deleterious to the tone. I don't know how you manage to read all those ants on the paper but am amazed if it helps.I enjoyed looking at your new Stewmack violin and thought it had decent tone. You can probably get even better tone with carbon paper if you take the time to scrape the bridge feet with exact knife. Every part that is black you gently scrape from outer edge to inner feet. You place the strings onto the bridge and apply light tension just enough to hold pressure on bridge while you massage it over the carbon paper. This will leave mark where to scrape next. You repeat this process untill theoretically all the bridge feet are evenly black. I have yet to get mine to turn out completly black but that is the goal. There should be no daylight at belly and bridge feet. My next time I hope to use thin cigarette paper and rub with number six pencil and use that for carbon paper. Hope this helps. Im still learning.
@ThePrairieFiddler Жыл бұрын
Thanks for your input. Yes, bridge cutting and fitting is an art in itself. I'm still learning. Tried different techniques, similar to your method. Eventually I hope to consider myself 'good' at fitting. Until then, I'll just keep trying!
@stanjohnson591 Жыл бұрын
YOU did a fantastic job with building the fiddle, your inlay work impeccable. The sound is strong! I hand-crafted a Stew-Mc fiddle in 2001 I've played this violin ever since with pride & pleasure. I hand-restored a "coffin case" to.hold this fiddle. My violin has doubled purfling, ivory dots inside purfling. Diamonds in eyes, bleached cow-bone nut & saddle. Ivory bout tips top-to-back. Garners, opal, star sapphires. A special thanks to Marvin Etherton, Lupton City. Chattanooga, TN. for his skill in guiding me in doing it right. The name of my violin, "NAMATESE" ( INDIAN GREETING, "WE ARE ONE".
@ThePrairieFiddler Жыл бұрын
Wow, you really blinged your violin up! In hindsight, I might have been better off if I'd waited and done my violin build at a later date, but how does one know? I ended up taking it apart a couple of times to fix various things. I have to say, though, that it does have a good sound. I also restored a coffin case. You can check mine out at www.glenclarson.com. Thanks for watching!
@gervasegallant Жыл бұрын
Nice! Merry christmas!
@ThePrairieFiddler Жыл бұрын
Thanks, Gervase. Merry Christmas to you and yours as well!
@HL-ci5lr Жыл бұрын
Wonderful. Merry Christmas.
@ThePrairieFiddler Жыл бұрын
Thank you Merry Christmas to you and yours!
@ChrisEbbrsen Жыл бұрын
I preferred the Glen Larsen in tone and finish. Im biased because I like the blond finish even though a classic orchestral violin is generally red amber varnish. Excellant comparison. Are all violins solid maple back with spruce top and ebony fittings or are some plywood? Out of them all I liked the Glen Larsen best. Thank you for hard work.
@ThePrairieFiddler Жыл бұрын
Thanks! I guess the answer is that any half decent violins have maple back, ribs, neck and spruce top. Ebony fittings are the most common but rosewood and boxwood are quite often used.
@Jleed989 Жыл бұрын
I bought a Strobel ML 85 at a yard sale for 100 usd. Pretty good violin but the action is so high nobody could fiddle on it .
@scubamage Жыл бұрын
Thank you so much for this whole series of videos. I've been enjoying building instruments (mostly kits and a few simple folk instruments), and my daughter informed me yesterday that she'd like to play violin. My wife is a music teacher but hasn't passed her violin proficiencies in ages, so I am considering pulling the trigger on this build to get a decent instrument for the adults in the home to use. The precision involved seems both daunting and super fun (in a masochistic way). I'm enjoying the whole series!
@ThePrairieFiddler Жыл бұрын
Thanks, scuba. This project was a pile of fun. I learned so much and in retrospect, could have done a much better job had I waited a year or two. I guess you don't know what you don't know. Until you try. If you do go ahead, I'd be glad to share some of my learnings. I'm not sure what they sell for now, but someone in my region is selling a kit for 450 cdn dollars. If you'd like to chat, please message me on my blog and I'll get back to you. www.glenclarson.com
@ChrisEbbrsen Жыл бұрын
Sir! Try eucaliptus oil on the wood portion of the bow. I HAVE USED IT ALL OVER MY CURRENT VIOLIN . IT DOESNT SEEM TO HAVE CAUSED ANY DAMAGE ON MY SPIRIT VARNISHED VIOLIN. I WOULD EXERCISE EXTREME CAUSION WHILE DOING SO. I AM CURRENTLY USING 70 % RUBBING ALCOHOL ON MY HORSE HAIRS. IVE DONE THIS BEFORE WITH NO HARM. AGAIN BACK IN THE DAY I BELIEVE CARBON TET. WAS USED FOR HORSE HAIR CLEANING ON VIOLIN BOW. IM VAGUE BUT MY GRANDFATHER MAY HAVE SUGGESTED THE TET. I WOULD TRY ON AN EXPENDABLE BOW AND VIOLIN. TET NOT INTENDED FOR VIOLIN PROPER. HOPE THESE OF HELP. ALS
@seamasadkins Жыл бұрын
What size pegs did you use?
@ThePrairieFiddler Жыл бұрын
Sorry, I can't remember exactly, but I think it was the bigger size... 8.6? Their website shows how to measure to pick the correct pegs.
@JohnNowlin-x2c Жыл бұрын
Thank you for responding. Something that truly amazed me was one day my dad was almost done with a violin except for finger board etc. He had me hold it close to my ear. He was about 10' away and he humed into another violin. The sound went thru the air and resonated the one I was holding. It was so loud I nearly dropped it. I had no idea. Pretty cool. I learned a lot from him. Take care.
@JohnNowlin-x2c Жыл бұрын
My father tuned his plates using an electronic tuner. Then after gluing the pitch changes and he would make more tuning adjustments. Good video.
@ThePrairieFiddler Жыл бұрын
I tried using an electronic device but gave up in frustration. In retrospect, this video could be called 'thicknessing the plates'. It's kind of a crapshoot on whether it will work out. Most do. I now actually use tap tones to a degree, making sure different regions of the plates have resonance in relation to the others. It seems to work better but I'm sure there are far better technicians than I.
@JohnNowlin-x2c Жыл бұрын
By the way your right about the electronic tuner, they aren't the best. I think he started using a fork or rod later on.
@jamesrempel1455 Жыл бұрын
Wittner pegs make a violin more valuable to the player, but less valuable to the buyer.
@ThePrairieFiddler Жыл бұрын
I won't disagree with you. It is a serious de ision to install them.
@artemi-music Жыл бұрын
thanks a lot for your demo!
@tonyg9442 Жыл бұрын
Awesome review thank you!
@Metalpazallteway Жыл бұрын
Hello nice review well done. Questions, how would you compare these in sound to the maple bird's eye you mentioned in one of your videos. Since you said the back body was one piece as opposed to 2 for the birds eye.
@ThePrairieFiddler Жыл бұрын
To be honest, while the birds eye was quite beautiful, and I tried regraduating the plates, I was never able to achieve equal results. There are different levels of birdseye. I have come to appreciate just a little of the birdseye effect. Still beautiful, but much more playable. Thanks for watching and thanks for your question!
@Metalpazallteway Жыл бұрын
@@ThePrairieFiddler Wow, so Stentor is actually higher quality, I didn't expect that answer. I would like to know what you mean about different levels for Birdseye models. Is that relating to the density of the wood? Also when mentioning the plates, were you referring to the inner acoustics of the violin? And of course, it's always a pleasure to hear your content. Again, many thanks to your work...
@ThePrairieFiddler Жыл бұрын
@@Metalpazallteway Oh, sorry, let me clarify. I was referring to violin comparison of instruments I have 'tuned' or graduated myself. Tuning refers to adjusting thickness of the top, bottom plates (and other parts of the violin if you are good enough). IMHO, to put it bluntly, the Stentor is near the very bottom of the list. The composition and density of the 'pretty' birdseye violin I featured was very hard to work with, and I don't think it would ever produce a great sound. Some maple wood has just flecks of birdseye knots. Very interesting to look at. If you message me or email me directly, I can share some photos. [email protected]
@TModel15 Жыл бұрын
Glen, enjoy your youtube videos and hearing about your travels in the violin world of mistakes and successes. I have had a similar travel repairing and restoring these wonderful instruments. I was intrigued with your Birdseye violin and have been trying to find one in the white. Could you tell me where you found that instrument? Keep those videos coming, they are extremely important for folks like us who only have access to the internet.😂
@ThePrairieFiddler Жыл бұрын
Well thanks. Sometimes I'm a bit embarrassed when I see the real professionals working. I bought the birdseye in the white from a Chinese supplier. I'll search. To be honest that one was beautiful to look at but in reality, even after I took it apart to returned the plates it was a just okay instrument.
@TModel15 Жыл бұрын
@@ThePrairieFiddler Thanks for your reply. Yes it is interesting to try figuring what works to get the best possible sound. Sometimes it's the soundpost, strings or the wood. Have you tried the newly acquired bow on the violin? I have one violin that likes a certain bow. Another best performs with a different bow, however you did notice the difference between a run of the mill and a quality bow. E.
@TModel15 Жыл бұрын
One more thiing that just popped into my small brain. FREQUENCY. when tap testing the plates you are striving to find sound frequencies. Does it seem logical that we also should find a matching frequency of the bow?
@ThePrairieFiddler Жыл бұрын
Not sure about the effect of bow on sound. I'm not a very advanced player, so I've found a bow which I feel has nice balance. I stick with that one. 'Tuning' the plates is a big enough challenge for me.
@johncook1080 Жыл бұрын
Mr. Larson, can you please tell us more about the Glen Larson Violin? Was it bought as a kit, and you did the varnish? May I inquire how much the kit was? Regarding your website reference, I also upgraded a Cecilio with D'Addario Ascente strings, refined the bridge, and fit the pegs. I also have a Romanian Gliga. Of the two I prefer my Cecilio, perhaps because I have more in it. I'd LOVE to finish a violin. I guess I have been bitten by the Luthier bug. I enjoy fussing with them as much as playing on them. Great demonstation! Best regards from "down south", 5 miles west of Kenly, NC.
@ThePrairieFiddler Жыл бұрын
Sorry for the late reply, but I missed your comment. The violin in this video was a Chinese violin purchased in the white. Can't remember, but not much. Probably 100 to 200 CDN dollars. I took it apart and 'tuned' the plates to the best of my ability. This is the key. I had initially tried spirit varnishing, but it's very difficult, so now I use almost exclusively oil varnish. If you'd like to chat about the process, send me a message at [email protected] Thanks for commenting!
@jkbish12 жыл бұрын
I have some old bows I am going to play with as I learn the art. I will try your cleaning ideas.
@abhijithas10152 жыл бұрын
Sir mendini mv300 or mendini mv400 better for a begginer?
@ThePrairieFiddler2 жыл бұрын
I don't really know how they rate their violins by model number, but I think one should always buy the best instrument they can afford. Keep in mind though that price doesn't always dictate quality.
@abhijithas10152 жыл бұрын
Sir is stentor 1500a better than mendini mv300??
@ThePrairieFiddler2 жыл бұрын
I'm not really sure. I think the Stentor 1500 is a lower model. If I had to guess, I'd say the mendini is better
@abhijithas10152 жыл бұрын
@@ThePrairieFiddler thank you sir for your valuable reply ❤️
@victorquintana79132 жыл бұрын
Installing the Wittner Pegs is not done until you glue the peg to the peg box. If you do not do this, the peg will not hold under the string tension.
@lynettejones3514 Жыл бұрын
Wittier pegs if fitted correctly should never be glued. Knilling/perfect pitch pegs may need a small amount but not Wittner.
@bernhardnizynski44032 жыл бұрын
How long have you been playing Glen?
@ThePrairieFiddler2 жыл бұрын
In this video, a couple years. Ima little better now, but I'm afraid age is gonna be a canceling factor. Lol
@bernhardnizynski44032 жыл бұрын
@@ThePrairieFiddler - you're doing very well. I'm 73 and have played guitar for many years. I have been playing fiddle for several years longer than you, and I can play some fancier stuff, but you are more consistent and your overall intonation is better than mine. Keep up the good work.
@bernhardnizynski44032 жыл бұрын
I think the quality is in the order played, the Larson being the best. Two and three were pretty much similar. I did not like the first one!
@ThePrairieFiddler2 жыл бұрын
Thanks!
@karenr.3492 жыл бұрын
Whats the easiest christmas song I can learn in the Violine? ❣️🇨🇭😊
@ThePrairieFiddler2 жыл бұрын
I would say Silent Night.
@ThePrairieFiddler2 жыл бұрын
I like Christmas time, because there are so many relatively easy songs you can play.
@karenr.3492 жыл бұрын
I hope to learn a lot with my Stentor and than get a new hand made violine like this. ❣️
@tommierichardson90702 жыл бұрын
Love the vids, keep em coming
@ThePrairieFiddler2 жыл бұрын
Thanks
@Kristin-oi8zw2 жыл бұрын
Yes the "glen" is the Best 👍
@TheQwuilleran2 жыл бұрын
Good to hear from you!
@election-classical-15-seconds2 жыл бұрын
ok
@polymathematics58372 жыл бұрын
No question, I agree, the Glen Larson violin sounds the best!
@ThePrairieFiddler2 жыл бұрын
Thanks!
@TheQwuilleran2 жыл бұрын
Oh. I've had the same bow for thirty years (got out of playing over a decade ago) and I always thought the rubber finger grip was sticky because the rubber was breaking down. Rosin makes much more sense.
@BanjoPicker2 жыл бұрын
What strings are you using on these models??
@ThePrairieFiddler2 жыл бұрын
These ones are Thomastik Dominant, which is what it came with. Personally, I like Zyex or Pro Arte.
@8754roberto2 жыл бұрын
I have a Stanton violin , it has great sound. Thanks for your video
@lindamorgan26782 жыл бұрын
Thank you good comparison. I have the VL 80 and it sounds more clear than yours on a few strings ( not muffled ) The last one you played was not balanced in volume per string. I just took out mine now and had not played for a while and I noticed the E string when plucked sounds very dead like you said but not when you play .. I do not recall that before but I have been playing guitar lately. Is there a reason /fix one string could get a somewhat dead sound ? If I twist/angle the bow a tad it sounds better. Do not know if that is normal or not I am just learning. Thank you for your review and I learned about the tapping for tone and plates .. Wow never heard of that before will look into it. BTW I am in Edmonton and the string instrument place where I took it in for the soundpost that fell out said it was an amazing violin for the price. He likes the Eastmans for the same reasons you do. He does not sell them either.