The Menards diesels are modeled on the EMD FP7, the passenger version of the F7. It's actually slightly longer than a standard F unit and the Menards model is scale accurate in length.
@charliestrainset-wx6zz5 күн бұрын
@@johnbutler1323 cool thanks for the info 👍
@therosejewelrailroad4898 күн бұрын
I like Menards stuff. If you get a package of those small rubber bands people use for braces. They work great on those annoying couplers. I like the ledge on your layout. I have about the same thing on my layout. Definitely has saved some trains from going over the edge over the years.
@charliestrainset-wx6zz8 күн бұрын
@@therosejewelrailroad489 thank you 👍
@steamrailwilly15 күн бұрын
I just zip-tied the couplers shut on my Menards rolling stock, and slide them together.
@charliestrainset-wx6zz15 күн бұрын
@@steamrailwilly that works 👍
@railchief7425 күн бұрын
Menards Engines are much bigger than the original Lionel F3 engines. Marx locomotives are also bigger than Marx locomotives
@richardnelson-ux1zzАй бұрын
Menards trains rolling stock and locomotives are based on 027 like marx are
@richardnelson-ux1zzАй бұрын
I have to admit the menards couplers really do suck I normally change the couplers out to kadee 150 knuckle couplers 90. Percent of my rolling stock is menards I really like the locomotives I have both marks and menards I have one lionel steam locomotive thebpolar express
@charliestrainset-wx6zzАй бұрын
@@richardnelson-ux1zz it's kinda a hit or a miss on them some bad some good
@PhilBender612Ай бұрын
(Red-in) = Reading company
@joeystrains.9316Ай бұрын
Great video, much better trucks than Menards.
@EngineerEd-xt2quАй бұрын
Nice video thanks
@charliestrainset-wx6zzАй бұрын
@@EngineerEd-xt2qu your welcome thank you
@TwistedMacGyversTrainsАй бұрын
I removed the rivet the same way you did. I changed all of my Menards cars with Lionel trucks that I bought off of eBay. eBay used to have them for five dollars for a pair. Needless to say I purchased a ton of them. Great video!👍
@charliestrainset-wx6zzАй бұрын
@@TwistedMacGyversTrains thank you 👍
@TwistedMacGyversTrainsАй бұрын
Really looking good Charlie! What size is your layout? I just found your channel and I have subscribed! Keep up the great work! (Frank)👍
@charliestrainset-wx6zzАй бұрын
@@TwistedMacGyversTrains thank you it's a 6x10
@TwistedMacGyversTrainsАй бұрын
@@charliestrainset-wx6zzThat’s a good size! Have a great day!
@charliestrainset-wx6zzАй бұрын
@@TwistedMacGyversTrains thanks you to 👍
@garypetreskysr4947Ай бұрын
I had recently purchased a set of (4) Lehigh Valley box cars, a single green LV box car and a single Reading box car and all of them had issues with the trucks. I had to remove the box from the frame, remove the truck from the frame and tighten the (4) screws on the truck that hold the wheels. I used blue Loctite on the screws to make sure they stay put. On the Reading box car one of the wheels were pressed on crooked and wobbled when rolling. Look OK in my opinion but the truck/wheel quality is poor at best. Took amount an hour to get them road worthy.
@charliestrainset-wx6zzАй бұрын
@@garypetreskysr4947 they definitely do need better quality control but it's still a pretty good deal considering they're only 25.00 each
@chasesrailwaylinesrr6447Ай бұрын
I like the menards rolling stock And they have recently And they have really released all the rolling stock with Proper springs on the trucks, I don't usually swap out the trucks because they're compatible with lionel
@richardnelson-ux1zzАй бұрын
I have used mth lionel and atlas die cast trucks a knuckle couplers
@charliestrainset-wx6zzАй бұрын
@@richardnelson-ux1zz as long as it works that's all that matters👍
@EngineerEd-xt2quАй бұрын
I have a few locomotives from Menards and I like them very much. I believe that Menards are going to improve all the cars with better trucks with springs I think they are waiting to run out of the old stock to run out but they are improving. I did subscribe to your channel.
@charliestrainset-wx6zzАй бұрын
@@EngineerEd-xt2qu thank you for the info and the subscription 👍
@EngineerEd-xt2quАй бұрын
@@charliestrainset-wx6zz your very welcome
@joshuacampbell9990Ай бұрын
Someone before you may have had the wheels off at some point and when they were pressing them back on they may have squeezed the frame a tad harder than they should have and that could be why the e-unit is hard to get out of the frame. That could also be the issue with it sticking occasionally if the frame is putting too much pressure on the assembly. As far as I know I don’t think there are any side frames for trucks available and in all honesty it would probably be just as cheap to find a replacement truck. They call them ‘Baby Hudsons’ because they are close to the 726/736/700E/773 locomotives just smaller. The 726/736 being what they are closer to as they are slightly larger. Great job cleaning it up!
@charliestrainset-wx6zzАй бұрын
@@joshuacampbell9990 the e unit just had a wire hanging. Thanks for sharing the information 👍
@danielkane8752Ай бұрын
Never NEVER use a sharpie for touch up. Any satin black paint will be better.
@charliestrainset-wx6zzАй бұрын
@@danielkane8752 👍
@johnandrus39012 ай бұрын
Very nice! The Menard's engines are pretty good, really. They run fairly well and look quite decent. The nylon gears are no big deal and will last almost forever, with just some basic care. The only comparison to Marx should be in the affordability of the locomotives. Marx was the value buy, with very simple drive trains, compared to Lionel. Many of the later Marx offerings were basically S scale, running on O gauge track. As far as the cars go, I think that they are a good buy. I believe that the box cars are old AMT tooling, which, over the years, made its way through Williams and K-Line and eventually, Menard's. All of the cars are of pretty good quality. I've never been a fan of the 'thumbtack' uncoupling mechanism. If you have an uneven spot on your layout, they can come uncoupled if the thumbtack makes any sort of contact with the center rail. Tiny rubber bands or those for braces, will fix the problem. You can get K-Line or Williams trucks on eBay, fairly cheap. Either way, Menard's is to Lionel and MTH what Marx was to Lionel, back in the day. An excellent video, for sure.
@charliestrainset-wx6zz2 ай бұрын
@@johnandrus3901 thank you
@richardnelson-ux1zz2 ай бұрын
I'm sorry you're not happy with menards rolling stock I use kadee o gauge model number 150 knuckle couplers I agree all of menards rolling stock should have metal frames and diecast trucks with steel wheels menards trains are more close to 027 gauge post war lionel trsins all my trains are made by menards including all my buildings and rolling stock
@charliestrainset-wx6zz2 ай бұрын
@@richardnelson-ux1zz I think there boxcars are good and so is the caboose. The plastic trucks don't bother me it's the fact the knuckles want stay closed.
@johnandrus39012 ай бұрын
I don't think that there is anything wrong with plastic trucks. They work quite well and roll nicely. The couplers can be an issue, though, but it isn't limited just to Menard's. I've used rubber bands on couplers on cars from the post-war period onward.
@charliestrainset-wx6zz2 ай бұрын
@@johnandrus3901 there not that bad I think it's the way the knuckle is made they bind up in curves
@trainman53232 ай бұрын
F7’s and FT’s are not the same size pro-typically. FT’s are shorter. I’m not sure the Menards products will hold up over time. I don’t imagine that engine will be operational without issues in 10 years. I run trains that are over 60 years old.
@mikemiura77402 ай бұрын
Awesome intro to these Menards units! I noticed the gap between the A and B is real wide. But no prob. I purchased lots of Menards rolling stock and have been happy(for the price- shipping is high though). Had wheel issues and had to relocate the air tank on the belly of the box cars
@charliestrainset-wx6zz2 ай бұрын
@@mikemiura7740 yeah shipping is pretty high I hope one day menards will be everywhere
@spacetruckerrob2 ай бұрын
I like it , but should have painted Brunswick Green for PRR
@charliestrainset-wx6zz2 ай бұрын
@@spacetruckerrob that would look good I hope they make a NYC next
@RixTrax2 ай бұрын
I believe the Menards Diesel are modeled after the F-7s, while the Lionel’s are FTs. The Lionel FTs are scale in size as the FT diesels in real life were shorter than the F7s. As far as the quality issues, in my experience, the Menards products look in expensive. The use of decals instead of printing really put me off. I have two of the Lionel FT diesels. A Super Chief and a North Pole Central. They both run great. I recently installed a Lionel Base 3. The Base 3 can be programmed to run Bluetooth locomotives using the Base 3 app or a Legacy remote. I was happily surprised to experience measurable improvements in the speed controls of the Bluetooth locomotives using the Base 3. This is a very informative video. Thank you.
@charliestrainset-wx6zz2 ай бұрын
@@RixTrax Thank you and you're welcome
@johnandrus39012 ай бұрын
Also, those look like passenger F7's. They have the steam generator section on the rear, including the stack. I think that they are quite nice looking locomotives. They are the value buy, for those who can't afford Lionel or MTH, but want some decent trains. They are a fine way to start your O gauge journey.
@michaelhband2 ай бұрын
👍👍👍❤❤❤🚂🚂🚂
@joshuacampbell99902 ай бұрын
For the money, I feel the Menards trains are great!
@charliestrainset-wx6zz2 ай бұрын
@@joshuacampbell9990 for sure 100 percent agree👍
@DJBREIT2 ай бұрын
I agree with this. It is the best-priced "O" gauge train out there.
@danshobbies132 ай бұрын
That’s the model I want to get. If Bachmann would have invested into Williams trains, this is what they could have made. But Menards took over where Williams left off.
@charliestrainset-wx6zz2 ай бұрын
@@danshobbies13 I like pennsylvania stuff that's the main reason I got it
@johnandrus39012 ай бұрын
Bachmann killed Williams and Lionel killed K-Line. They were two affordable alternatives to the more expensive Lionel and MTH offerings. Menard's has filled that gap superbly.
@cecilyoung50422 ай бұрын
The Menards diesel locomotives are F P 7 diesels ( F Passenger diesel 7 ) and the prototype was much longer that the freight F 7 diesel locomotive ,as modeled I am very happy to see this diesel version of the F P 7 diesel locomotive is being modeled in O gauge .
@charliestrainset-wx6zz2 ай бұрын
@@cecilyoung5042 cool 👍
@DRCRailroard2 ай бұрын
Cecil, I believe you have your manufacturers confused. The F7's were built by GM's EMD division primarily for freight service. They never made an FP7. They were 4 axel diesel electrics. GM EMD( General Motors Electro Motive Division), the car manufacturer, also built E units like the E7's, E8's for passenger service. They were twin engine 6 axel diesl electric locomotives. GM is credited with the first successful diesel road engine that led to the demise of steam engines. The F units were even called car body design. The FA, freight, and PA, passenger diesel electrics, which looked similar to the GM EMD designs from that same period, were built by Alco (American locomotive company). They were the only successful steam engine builder that successfully made the transition from steam to diesel before their demise when General Electric parted ways with them to build their own diesel electric locomotives. Gm dominated the diesel electric engine market from 1940 to 2012 before selling off to Caterpillar who promptly killed it off. Because General Electric became the dominant engine builder by then. Primarily because of their EPA compliant diesel engine design untill they sold off to Wabtec in 2019. As far as I know there are no engine builders left in America anymore. All of the engines used for freight and yards today are older rebuilt GM and GE engines.
@johnandrus39012 ай бұрын
@@DRCRailroard EMD offered the F's with steam boilers for passenger trains. You can see the boiler section on the Menard's units, with the stack on the rear. Santa Fe was a big buyer, as they liked the F's, because of their wheelbase and better tractive effort, due to the lack of an idler axle. You can find examples on the internet.
@DRCRailroard2 ай бұрын
@johnandrus3901 Yes John, the early EMD F units were a dual service road engine. They had steam generators because the passenger cars were heated by steam. The passenger cars at that time were equipped to function with steam engines and remained the primary source of heating passenger cars long after the end of steam engines. The role of EMD's F units had more to do with it's paint scheme. It's understood that the early red and silver Warbonnet paint schemes, as used on the early F units, were used for the Super Chief and El Capitan passenger service. Which passenger service was the pride of all the roads as it was their primary source of revenue at that time. They even had washing stations and washed the engines down between excursions and touched up the silver paint on the trucks. The early Bluebonnet F units were considered freight engines, but I'm sure both engines were likely used in both roles as passenger service was slowly dying off along with the role of steam engines. My point was that EMD's early system for identifying locomotives had nothing to do with it's role unlike Alco. EMD's. FT simply stood for fourteen hundred twins. F3 stood for fourteen hundred, the third rendition, and they were only rated at 1350 HP, not even 1400. Go figure. Later, E units were 1800 hp as they had two 900 HP diesel prime movers. F did not stand for freight, and E did not stand for express as some people will tell you. On the other hand, Alco's FA 4 axel units, the F stood for freight A stood for cabbed A unit. Their PA, 6 axel diesl, the P stood for passenger, and A stood for an A cabbed unit. EMD's early identification system had no direct corelation to it's purpose until the introduction of their BL units which was a direct response to their competitor Alco, who came out with the first ever successful road switcher engine at the request of some of the major roads. Up untill that time engines had specific designs for specific roles, likely due to steam designs for road, freight, passenger, and switching tasks. Hence the need for round houses and turn tables so a particular engine could easliy be put into service. Alco came out with their RS-1 which literally stood for road switcher, by extending the frame on their switcher engine to add a steam generator with road trucks. They literally tacked on a short hood to the back of their alco S-2 switcher that EMD ridiculed Alco for the design and wa la the first ever dual role, multi purpose engine. It's a cool looking engine. I have an Atlas O model of it. It's the precursor to Alco's more successful RS-3 design. EMD's less successful BL unit, which stands for Branch line, was the precursor to their very successful GP units and stands for general purposes better known as geeps. It wasn't my intention to suggest that the F units weren't used for passenger service but that EMD never produce an early FP unit like the Menards model that was used only for passenger service, but that Alco's PA was designed for passenger service and that the EMD's and Alco's are two different builders that made similar looking engines in the same era.
@johnandrus39012 ай бұрын
@@DRCRailroard Just like the C and W stood for cast and welded, respectively. The original S stood for six hundred hp and the N stood for nine hundred hp. They ended up just naming their switchers S-Series and dropped the hp designation.
@mikeandlucky2 ай бұрын
I have a 1948 675 that I received (second hand) in 1961 at age 9. I am getting ready to do some maintenance work on it so I very much appreciate this video. Do you know if there are any remaining independent train stores in North Carolina? I see the one at Spencer is closing.
@charliestrainset-wx6zz2 ай бұрын
@@mikeandlucky thank you I really don't know
@joshuacampbell99903 ай бұрын
Good job building 1 out of 2 more or less junkers. I’m right there with you on converting them to liquid smoke units. It’s easily reversible if one wants the original pill unit but it amazes me how mad some folks get when they hear that someone has upgraded one lol. To me it’s worth it to do the upgrade!
@charliestrainset-wx6zz3 ай бұрын
@@joshuacampbell9990 thank you 👍
@joshuacampbell99903 ай бұрын
Another job well done. Rebuilding those e-units can be trying of one’s patience getting everything to line up to snap it back together.
@charliestrainset-wx6zz3 ай бұрын
@@joshuacampbell9990 thank you 👍
@SantaFeBob3 ай бұрын
Another great demonstration video. I like the Cotter Pin tool for the brush installation. Keep up the great work.
@charliestrainset-wx6zz3 ай бұрын
@@SantaFeBob thank you 👍
@SantaFeBob3 ай бұрын
Awesome layout and collection.
@charliestrainset-wx6zz3 ай бұрын
@@SantaFeBob thank you 👍
@JerseyBill-x9r3 ай бұрын
Great fix and video, Jersey Bill
@charliestrainset-wx6zz3 ай бұрын
@@JerseyBill-x9r thank you 👍
@JerseyBill-x9r3 ай бұрын
I really liked the hemic for a cradle. The finish on that shell was perfect and the finished locomotive and tender turned out looking good. Great video, Jersey Bill
@charliestrainset-wx6zz3 ай бұрын
@@JerseyBill-x9r thank you 👍
@TwoRailfans3 ай бұрын
I heard you mentioned on Classic Model Trains and just subscribed. Looking forward to checking out your channel.
@charliestrainset-wx6zz3 ай бұрын
@@TwoRailfans thank you I really appreciate that
@patricknicolucci50733 ай бұрын
I still own my 1961 HO Lionel freight set still in box with original transformer my dad bought me new in 61 i was 5 take it out on christmas
@charliestrainset-wx6zz3 ай бұрын
@@patricknicolucci5073 that's really cool 👍 thanks for sharing and subscribing
@joshuacampbell99903 ай бұрын
Turned out really nice! Sounds like that eBay seller is a pretty stand up person wanting to keep their buyers happy, heck I would have been happy with a shipping label sent so I could send the other one back but to get 2 for the price of one that’s great. I’ve never had the best of luck with decals personally but I’ve seen some people who can work magic with hiding the inevitable lines around them. I think I’m going to invest in some stamps myself with the correct fonts for some of my restoration projects. They’re pricey but it’s closer to how they were originally and they’re reusable lol. Keep up the good work!
@charliestrainset-wx6zz3 ай бұрын
@@joshuacampbell9990 Thank you
@joshuacampbell99904 ай бұрын
Nice work!
@charliestrainset-wx6zz4 ай бұрын
Thank you
@Kaijushark.28735 ай бұрын
Henry!
@jamesdenny47346 ай бұрын
Lets hope that 675 isn't scale! 😮
@jamesdenny47346 ай бұрын
You do know lionel makes a 2-6-4? You coulda saved a few bucks! Now, for me, I don't see lionel making a 4-6-2. So I'm planning to take a post-war 4-6-4 Hudson, n make it into a post-war 4-6-2 Pacific. I'll be doing about the same thing to a 2 wheel rear truck!
@charliestrainset-wx6zz5 ай бұрын
Yes I do know Lionel makes a 2-6-4 2025 and 675 and I put mine back to a 2-6-4 I paid 20$ for it and put it back together I may have 60$ in it all together
@williamsantangelo7 ай бұрын
You struck a gold mine! I have 2 1829's with the 2731 tenders with smoke also wouldnt trade either as they took a while to find! Not so common these days. Also have some 333's with smoke! And a collection of Deluxe rolling stock, luv my MARX!
@charliestrainset-wx6zz3 ай бұрын
marx is really cool that's for sure
@SilverRailClub7 ай бұрын
Hi Charlie! Nice video. Looks like you're doing some good work. Check at the layout I put together in my basement using Fastrack and making up a track plan that includes a modified dog-bone in the inner loop, 3 bridges, and an industrial section with a crossover into 3 sidings! The best part: adding the waterway in the center to give the layout more length, add levels and interest to the build. It might give you some additional ideas for your layout. See it all in action on my Silver Rail Club channel here on You Tube - enjoy! Pete
@charliestrainset-wx6zz7 ай бұрын
Thank you I will check it out 👍
@SilverRailClub7 ай бұрын
Great stuff. Please be sure to 'Like', Subscribe and share! Thanks!!
@KeithGTX8 ай бұрын
Suggest not using the wire wheel. You can get a beautiful clean armature using a gray ink eraser. Safer and abrasive enough to clean it. Used them for decades on pancake armatures of old Aurora and AFX motors.
@charliestrainset-wx6zz3 ай бұрын
Ok thanks for the info
@joycejohnson25118 ай бұрын
The you ring the new driving add some graphite grease really helps
@charliestrainset-wx6zz8 ай бұрын
Thanks for the info
@joycejohnson25118 ай бұрын
Yes yes yeah the part number for that drive washer is 3520 - 16 that is a 6 finger 1 and you can get it from the train tender
@joycejohnson25118 ай бұрын
Yeah replace the rubber washer that has the fingers on it that's that's probably so old and hard as a rock that's probably why it's not working Use the 6 finger 1 not the 3 finger 1
@joshuacampbell99908 ай бұрын
It’s one of those ‘to each his own’ choices for tubular/Fast Track. Personally I’m not much of a fan of Fast Track, but that’s just me. For what it costs you can buy Gargraves or the like for more or less the same money and it looks a lot nicer and is a lot quieter. But I also understand you already had a bunch of Fast Track handy. It’s like for me I have a shelf layout (I have a bunch of short videos on Facebook on most of the train pages), I built it just so I could run my junk. I used O-27 track that I have tons of but for my curves I used Marx 34” curves. But whenever I build a new more traditional layout, I like the old style dealer display look, so I’m probably going to buy all new Menards O gauge track and use at least 54” curves. I like tubular myself because it runs a little quieter and I’m more used to making connections and insulated track sections with it. Regardless very nice job and your layout looks great!
@charliestrainset-wx6zz8 ай бұрын
Thank you
@michaelquinones-lx6ks8 ай бұрын
That marx 1829 4-6-4 was built like a gun, It was made to compete with Lionel which was considered to be the Cadillac of model trains where as Marx was the Chevrolet of model trains.
@charliestrainset-wx6zz8 ай бұрын
Yep 👍
@michaelquinones-lx6ks8 ай бұрын
@@charliestrainset-wx6zz Thank you for answering my comment.