Nice unit. What does it weigh? I see wheels on all 4 conversions & 2 handles. I was initially interested in a model like this made by Honda but I couldn’t find enough information on them. I went with an ultra quiet gasoline generator by Honda EU 7000is. I love mine.
@techalmighty150529 күн бұрын
i've compared silent type diesel generator and open type non-silent diesel generator and they are basically the same engine and coil wise... the only difference is the box which the silent type have. that's it... no special on the inside, nothing. you can just buy an open type diesel generator and make it silent yourself by making your own box or housing.
@muddstuffn29 күн бұрын
Some have brushed heads and some are brushless. Some have different control panels. Same engines though. The enclosed type has air ducting to keep the engine cool even though its insufficient.
@FroggysGoldProspectingАй бұрын
hey there great review, 2 years on do you still love it?
@muddstuffnАй бұрын
Over 200 hours on it and still a solid machine! Just make sure to stabilize the fuel or better yet use non ethenol fuel. and drain the carb out when in long term storage. Still starts first pull.
@FroggysGoldProspectingАй бұрын
@ awesome, thank you for your reply.
@jwfmechanical9864Ай бұрын
Thank you for this helpful video. I appreciate you.
@chrisrust56703 ай бұрын
How long does desel stay good in it?
@midspan283 ай бұрын
Awesome video and more helpful than anything else I can find online.. You wouldn't happen to have a picture of the wiring behind the electrical panel you could share would you? Someone messed with the wiring on mine and can't figure out what they did.
@Ehs-fn1zr6 ай бұрын
Is that sinent. It's fucking so loud
@muddstuffn6 ай бұрын
Its quieter than an open frame design but Its not Inverter quiet though by no means.
@adoteyvincent79937 ай бұрын
How much pls
@jeffkiell8627 ай бұрын
Hi, so i have the same generator, was working fine and then quit, i checked and topped up the oil as to your specifications, put a new battery in and it will start if i press the decompression handle. Starts right up but throws the stop swich, will keep running if i hold it, and it has the oil light on , any ideas whats going on?? Thanks
@muddstuffn7 ай бұрын
unplug the oil pressure switch and see if it runs.
@danbennett93948 ай бұрын
I have an eagle diesel with same set up as Elim. When on 110 side voltage is low until you run something then it in jumps up to 100 volts. 110/240 shows no voltage. What could be wrong
@danbennett93948 ай бұрын
If my generator has a capacitor instead of an AVR, is the capacitor also under the flywheel or is it external. Is there a quick way to know which one I have
@danbennett93949 ай бұрын
Hello, I just bought one of these but made by elim.i have a question about the 120 and 120/240 systems. Online there's a switch, you can either be on the 120 side with two 20 amp outlets and one 30 amp trailer style outlet or you switch to the 120/240 side 30 amp twist-lock outlet
@muddstuffn9 ай бұрын
120 side runs all 120v outlets, the two 20 amp, and the twist lock 30 amp outlet. when you flip the switch it engergizes the 240v outlet only and denergizes all the 120v outlets.
@danbennett93949 ай бұрын
Yes that's right, but can I wire the panel so they both the 120 side and 120/240 side work at same time? Or would that damage something
@muddstuffn9 ай бұрын
no because the Voltage regulator cannot regulate both voltages at the same time.@@danbennett9394
@stanleybest88339 ай бұрын
To start a Chinese air cooled diesel in winter, slowly pour hot water on the cylinder. Purity of oil and fuel is important. The 168F is a small 196 CC diesel with an angled cylinder built by at least two Chinese companies, with castings and parts differences. Ether is a big hazard to use. A goofy squirt will blow up like a grenade inside. The fit and castings are excellent. Loose motors should avoid high RPM but idle must be noticably above stall speed. You should avoid full power, when you see lots of smoke. This motor is about twice the size of a 168F. Don't use a dirty funnel for oil. 15W140 is universal. The crankcase will run way cold in winter. Augment a cabin with solar panels.
@trumpdanusan10 ай бұрын
and now have 4000
@robbypro337010 ай бұрын
It's molly break in lube and carbon from the rings breaking in that makes the oil dark. Not metal shavings.
@MoroniGivens-jq9mi9 ай бұрын
unusual ountbmetal shavings better get mag dip
@robbypro337010 ай бұрын
Just got mine. Love it
@robbypro337010 ай бұрын
Nice review, like the fuel shut off trick. 25 dollars an hour and free health insurance for an illegal to flip our burgers versus 2 dollars a day in china 🇨🇳
@hectorgaleano8110 ай бұрын
Great video dude! This one and the previous. There is almost zero information about these small inexpensive generators. And you showed very important tips on faqs. Thanks a lot!
@linuxsuperuser11 ай бұрын
I got mine during Hurricane Sandy - And it still works. I love the damn thing. But. It did not arrive in working condition and the entire system had to be reworked. Also the entire thing is made of chineseium - they copied the Yanmar L100 and the copy is so good you can use stock parts on to the 178f or whatever they call it. But I keep a stash of spare parts because they do break but anyone can fit it. It has atleast 5000 hours. - And they sip fuel. My experience reflects yours exactly. - I added a glow plug to mine. I'm planning on reworking the control panel for digital control
@Forged72111 ай бұрын
Terrible Audio mate , Def a solid little unit tho
@graniteridgegreens6278 Жыл бұрын
I have one that cap must have gone bad or was told was too small ui from factory. Would a AVR solve this caps problem?
@mr.bright684 Жыл бұрын
I have a question, how much does this thing weigh?
@kiddlawncare2933 Жыл бұрын
I just bought one, close to 200 lbs I believe. Ridiculously heavy.
@JaakkoF11 ай бұрын
@@kiddlawncare2933 148 kg dry weight, so 326 lbs
@johnmassingham5109 Жыл бұрын
I am very interested in why you disconnected the stop solenoid, as doing so would not only prevent the engine turning off on the key but remove the low oil pressure fail safe feature. I have two of these generators and both have suffered from the oil alert system shutting the engine down. The fault has always been a dry joint on the circuit board and re-soldering the components has cured the problem. I have searched for information on the net about the wiring of this circuit board but unable to find a diagram or explanation of how it works. I have attempted to draw out the circuit to find out myself and this is how I think it works. There are two relays each with a large capacitor across their coils. Switching on the ignition takes power through a normally closed relay contact and out to the stop solenoid. The oil pressure switch works in reverse compared to most vehicles. It is normally made with no oil pressure and open circuit with pressure. If the oil pressure fails the switch earths one side of a relay coil and the relay operates starting the shutdown procedure. This only happens when the engine is running because the coil only then has power from the 12 volt circuit that the generator is producing. The second relay operates via a "made" contact of the first, this lights the LED showing lack of oil pressure and prevents power getting to the stop solenoid. I hope this has made sense, if anyone knows how this circuit really works I would be grateful to hear as this theory is only my idea and could easily be wrong.
@petitepatate69 Жыл бұрын
Thanks. Very good advice about the oil magnetic plug 👌 I bought both plug and generator. Hoping it will be as good as your.
@ελευθερία-ε2ο Жыл бұрын
Wonder how this compares to the onan quiet diesel like the ones in RV's
@RonnieleeIvey-zz8nq Жыл бұрын
Have u had any oil leak problems
@RonnieleeIvey-zz8nq Жыл бұрын
I have one it has 140 hrs but I have a oil leak behind the red kill switch
@jaykubes4469 Жыл бұрын
I just got one it will run if I jump it and leave it running but if I take off the jump starter it dies.
@danbennett9394 Жыл бұрын
Hi there, I just saw your video from 2 years ago about the Apache Premier 8500S generator. I'm looking at buying one that runs but doesn't produce power. Any thoughts on what the problem might be?
@magvat Жыл бұрын
Probably bad capasitor
@nateSpeckin-jj2md Жыл бұрын
Started a maxpeedingrods 3500 facebook group. Love this little wonder. Small light and powerful
@trumpdanusan10 ай бұрын
getting you motel room in vegas just for you and gen
@sleepingbearffg5008 Жыл бұрын
You're wife rock's God bless her! I'm getting... Been out awhile still going?
@muddstuffn Жыл бұрын
165hrs on it still runs like it came out of the box
@johnxgeronimo7606 Жыл бұрын
Note the gaps on the Torch and NGK CR7HS were way off as delivered. Per NGK, the CR7HS is supposed to be 0.028" (0.7mm) with a torque in an aluminum block of 7.2-8.7 lb. ft. There is no need for a fancy plug in this low compression engine which runs at just 4850 RPM.
@trumpdanusan10 ай бұрын
anyone tried open gap more? .010 wonder if that stop vibes. Runs better iridum ngk
@johnxgeronimo7606 Жыл бұрын
After 5 hours of break-in with 10W-40 mineral (not synthetic) oil, and alternating 1500 and 3000 watt loads with cooldown cycles, the oil has been changed 5 times and cleared up nicely. Tiny bit of steel from the rings and bearings on the magnetic plug. Overall positive impression so far. I checked the compression using a Honda dirt bike procedure and was surprised it is only 30 psi. Maybe this is to be expected for a low-rpm pull start. Anybody else checked their compression?
@muddstuffn Жыл бұрын
im sure your getting the reading with the compression release. do a leak down test to know for sure the condition of the rings.
@glenarseneault7084 Жыл бұрын
i like your video. Where did you buy the magnetic oil cap?
@jerrywaters4814 Жыл бұрын
How come you don't speak in a mic? is like you're away from the mic!
@Kris-qh1td Жыл бұрын
so you swapped the spark plug to ngk, you remember the number?
@itsumonihon Жыл бұрын
I just picked up one of these - a non running "Nigata 5" "Silent Generator". It's certainly silent when it's not running LOL. $500 Canadian was a bit too much but I paid it anyway. The only problem with it I can see is that the gasket in the fuel pump was chewed up and needed replacing. Looking forward to getting it running this weekend, fingers crossed. There's something to be said for simple mechanical diesel engines. My sailboat's inboard is a 1 cyl German Farymann diesel, my Tractor is a 3 cyl British Perkins diesel, now my generator is a 1 cyl Chinese-stolen Japanese Yanmar diesel. They just work, and when they don't, they're easy to fix.
@LeeH-Ranger83 Жыл бұрын
Don, I sold my Champion 3500 today - tooooo HEAVY and purchased this generator today through Walmart. A couple of video requests from you: 1. Go through the process / steps you did to INSTALL the hour meter. 2. When would you recommend doing the first / second oil changes (break in period) versus waiting until the 50 hour mark? I too bought the “magnetic” dip stick you recommended. I had one for my Champion and it definitely picked up metal-fragments. Thanks for the video and keep up the great work.
@swdman1234 Жыл бұрын
Just wondering if you could advise me what the running in procedure is for this generator is as I am planning on getting one?
@joejohnson2478 Жыл бұрын
How is the generator holding up?
@muddstuffn Жыл бұрын
160 hours on it and still like new.
@joejohnson2478 Жыл бұрын
@@muddstuffn One last question. What oil weight does this unit take and is one quart sufficient? I live in the New York area where we have many power outages in the Summer so I'm purchasing this unit to keep the refrigerator going during one of these incidents. Thanks!
@johnxgeronimo7606 Жыл бұрын
@@joejohnson2478 It takes right about 14.5 US Fluid Ounces. In hot conditions 10W-40 synthetic is probably good once the generator has broken in for a few hours (conventional mineral oil is usually recommended for break-in). Different weights are shown at various places in the documentation and on the labels.
@matthewknight5641 Жыл бұрын
Thing qbout engine rpm is qnd longevity it the balance of the engine qt a rated rpm. A faster spinning engine will last just as long if its balanced to run at that rpm. If you run a engine slower than its designed run rpm it will shake the bearings out of it.
@texasjohnjatrading691 Жыл бұрын
Never could get mine started. I sent it back.
@trumpdanusan10 ай бұрын
put oil in it lol? Sensor
@rickrae8265 Жыл бұрын
Great video and well explained.
@josearechiga9807 Жыл бұрын
Did you install the pull start or did it come with it? If you did install where did you get it? I am thinking of installing one on mine.
@GoingOffGrid101 Жыл бұрын
just got a mint one of these with 10 hours on it, so its only a 6500w ah :( was hoping it was a 8500w :D
@muddstuffn Жыл бұрын
they put all kind of numbers on the sticker to misslead people to think they are a higher wattage. but they should have a spec sticker somewhere saying the proper wattage. may even be on the generator power head
@GoingOffGrid101 Жыл бұрын
@@muddstuffn how many hours you have on this generator now ? is it still running well ? and fixes needed ? thanks a bunch.
@muddstuffn Жыл бұрын
@@GoingOffGrid101 ive got a few hundred hours on it. been pretty reliable. Capacitor and starter is about all ive had to replace on it.
@GoingOffGrid101 Жыл бұрын
@@muddstuffn where do you buy capacitor?
@muddstuffn Жыл бұрын
@@GoingOffGrid101 local electric motor store.
@GoingOffGrid101 Жыл бұрын
im about to buy one of these you still like it ?
@LeeH-Ranger83 Жыл бұрын
Excellent review - thank you. I would be interested in a video showing how you installed your hour meter. TIA
@muddstuffn Жыл бұрын
All you do is wrap the wire around your plug wire and then mount the display somewhere.
@aubreyj.tennant1123 Жыл бұрын
Thanks, great review!
@olevictorcorral6445 Жыл бұрын
Hello. Do you fill oil the same hole where you check your oil? I cant seem so see another place to fill oil? Thank you.