Silent Diesel Generator long term Review and Discussion

[@shsdhs3998]

Thanks for this review. There are several retailers in Australia selling this exact model under their own brand, but little to no information other than the product description and some fake looking 100% positive reviews.

[@jetstream454]

I'll say this: I'm highly sure the Apache is also a generic Chinese clone

[@manicminer8813]

Brilliant video, thank you so much for disclosing the brand of engine. Very helpful indeed

[@itsumonihon]

I just picked up one of these - a non running "Nigata 5" "Silent Generator". It's certainly silent when it's not running LOL. $500 Canadian was a bit too much but I paid it anyway. The only problem with it I can see is that the gasket in the fuel pump was chewed up and needed replacing. Looking forward to getting it running this weekend, fingers crossed. There's something to be said for simple mechanical diesel engines. My sailboat's inboard is a 1 cyl German Farymann diesel, my Tractor is a 3 cyl British Perkins diesel, now my generator is a 1 cyl Chinese-stolen Japanese Yanmar diesel. They just work, and when they don't, they're easy to fix.

[@jwfmechanical9864]

Thank you for this helpful video. I appreciate you.

[@linuxsuperuser]

I got mine during Hurricane Sandy - And it still works. I love the damn thing. But. It did not arrive in working condition and the entire system had to be reworked. Also the entire thing is made of chineseium - they copied the Yanmar L100 and the copy is so good you can use stock parts on to the 178f or whatever they call it. But I keep a stash of spare parts because they do break but anyone can fit it. It has atleast 5000 hours. - And they sip fuel. My experience reflects yours exactly. - I added a glow plug to mine. I'm planning on reworking the control panel for digital control

[@musisir1927]

Thank you so much. Your video is quite helpful. Just to ask, what is your estimated lifespan of these Chinese disel generators if well taken care of?

[@muddstuffn]

I’ve put over 100 hours on this unit and it seems to be great. I recommend a better than stock fuel filtration and use good oil and change frequently and make sure the screen filter is cleaned and they should last quite awhile. Main problem I ran into is that they don’t cool themselves properly in 90 degree days if ran extended periods. But in the 80s they can run all day.

[@JRasS14]

@@muddstuffn I’m in Arizona, see how mine holds up to the heat. What size are the fuel lines from the factory, I want to do a fuel filter upgrade like that, looks like ones I saw on amazon marine style.

[@muddstuffn]

Mine did not like high 80s and 90s *F after running for awhile. Since its inclosed it doesnt get enough airflow to keep the engine cool at those temps. Might mount a fan to blow through it, that might help.

[@bus-fun-addict]

Good video. I quit buying batteries for these small generators. My new way is to install a heavy 4 prong female trailer wiring plug on the generator. Wire it to the starter or positive battery terminal and ground. Then take some jumper cables and install a male trailer plug on one end. Then you can start it off of any tractor, car or truck you have around.

[@chrisrust5670]

How long does desel stay good in it?

[@graniteridgegreens6278]

I have one that cap must have gone bad or was told was too small ui from factory. Would a AVR solve this caps problem?

[@johnclyne6350]

Nice unit. What does it weigh? I see wheels on all 4 conversions & 2 handles. I was initially interested in a model like this made by Honda but I couldn’t find enough information on them. I went with an ultra quiet gasoline generator by Honda EU 7000is. I love mine.

[@ελευθερία-ε2ο]

Wonder how this compares to the onan quiet diesel like the ones in RV's

[@mr.bright684]

I have a question, how much does this thing weigh?

[@kiddlawncare2933]

I just bought one, close to 200 lbs I believe. Ridiculously heavy.

[@JaakkoF]

@@kiddlawncare2933 148 kg dry weight, so 326 lbs

[@midspan28]

Awesome video and more helpful than anything else I can find online.. You wouldn't happen to have a picture of the wiring behind the electrical panel you could share would you? Someone messed with the wiring on mine and can't figure out what they did.

[@juliogonzo2718]

I bought two gensets used for $400 CAD. Both need fixing, I ordered a capacitor from generator guru but the rest of the parts I've ordered from aliexpress. I've ordered two injectors, an injection pump, high pressure line, rockers, push rods, piston, head, air cleaner, muffler, and a fuel tank. That was about $600 CAD. I'm going to sell the one 5500w after I fix the capacitor and injector, and keep the rebuilt engine only off the bigger one with the 186fa. No idea wtf I'm going to do with a 12hp engine but I'm sure I will mad scientist it into something

[@olevictorcorral6445]

Hello. Do you fill oil the same hole where you check your oil? I cant seem so see another place to fill oil? Thank you.

[@RonnieleeIvey-zz8nq]

Have u had any oil leak problems

[@danbennett9394]

Hi there, I just saw your video from 2 years ago about the Apache Premier 8500S generator. I'm looking at buying one that runs but doesn't produce power. Any thoughts on what the problem might be?

[@magvat]

Probably bad capasitor

[@tonyandhelen8126]

Do you know the make of the alternator?

[@andrewfortoul8179]

Hey @diezelDon you ever had a problem with it running for 15 minutes then shutting off?

[@muddstuffn]

check for restrictions in the fuel supply to injection pump and start with changing the fuel filter. Ive also seen the Fuel shutoff solenoids get warm and shut themselves down prematurely but make sure your getting enough fuel to the pump first.

[@darcyninnes4907]

Thanks for this video! Very helpful. could you send some pictures of your fuel line set up? Some one has butcher mine up and I don't have a owners manual. Thanks

[@jeffkiell862]

Hi, so i have the same generator, was working fine and then quit, i checked and topped up the oil as to your specifications, put a new battery in and it will start if i press the decompression handle. Starts right up but throws the stop swich, will keep running if i hold it, and it has the oil light on , any ideas whats going on?? Thanks

[@muddstuffn]

unplug the oil pressure switch and see if it runs.

[@harryobrien5518]

Do you have a problem with having Offense of smoking problem

[@muddstuffn]

Right after startup the smoke clears up. It may smoke just a tad when pulling a surge but you won’t really notice it

[@davidforsyth4338]

I know this is an old post but if someone else has the same problem I did notice mine smokes a bit until it warms up but more importantly you need to have a load on it. When you make it work it has a better burn.

[@juliogonzo2718]

There is a guy with a KZbin channel Boy Kalikot. He works on these engines in a lot of his videos. I have no idea what he is saying (Filipino) but I understand what he is doing. He took an injector apart on one and spread the spring that puts pressure on the pintle to stop one from smoking. They must fatigue or the shims get worn causing it to inject at too low of pressure. I ordered an injector for mine but if I couldn't afford it I would try it.

[@tonyandhelen8126]

Looks similar to my Digital Power Systems DP-75ASB. Mine has the glow plug, decompression cable @ control panel and upper hatch. Yanmar! That helps.

[@theonewhoknows2]

Yanmars are great from what ive heard and experience . my dads tractor had a Yanmar

[@RonnieleeIvey-zz8nq]

I have one it has 140 hrs but I have a oil leak behind the red kill switch

[@CancelOkay]

Just got the same type of engine. I'm very curious about how you managed to improvise your fuel filtration. May I know what type of fuel filter you are using? I'm considering putting one on my unit. I recently check my generator fuel system it seems there's no fuel filtration even I look inside the fuel tank, none at all.

[@muddstuffn]

I used a R12T Fuel filter assembly off Amazon or Ebay.Check out my second video, I show a better view of the fuel system due to a couple people asking for it. kzbin.info/www/bejne/g2bNh6Oej66qpbs

[@CancelOkay]

@@muddstuffn Thank you mate for the reply. My bad on what I said in the previous comment that I said there's no fuel filter in my generator. I found it today, it was very tiny and I have to unscrew the panel board to see it. Just behind the panel board. I need to relocate this thing. Thank you again for the support link. Awesome. Please keep posting. FYI, I'm new to this diesel engine generator for about a year now. I just do basic maintenance like changing the oil to prolong it. I never bother to know more. But recent event, I got more inclined to top a notch the maintenance since we got hit by typhoon Odette here in the Philippines. When I saw your video I got more confidence to take action. Many thanks for that.

[@snowflakemelter1172]

You just need a small inline fuel filter.

[@CancelOkay]

@@snowflakemelter1172 Yup Sir, couldn't find it and I settled with the small. The one that is made for 186F engines inline fuel filter.

[@snowflakemelter1172]

@@CancelOkay a small plastic inline filter from eBay will do, these engines only sip Diesel.

[@MrRoverpilot]

I have the Apache 8500e and the wiring is messed up on it , I can not find a wiring diagram anywhere

[@muddstuffn]

The 12v side should be pretty straight forward. The 120 might be a little tricky but should be similar to other gensets if you can get a detailed diagram. Might try Aurora or Durostar. They are still selling similar units and may be able to get detailed info. Even if its not exact it maybe helpful.

[@jaykubes4469]

I just got one it will run if I jump it and leave it running but if I take off the jump starter it dies.

[@brianfitch3826]

I was given a 8500se. Do you know what's different with the SE? I can't find anything about these generators online. No manuals or anything.

[@muddstuffn]

I couldn’t tell you the difference, but the makes and models of the same unit is all over the place, most of the parts are interchangeable.

[@snowflakemelter1172]

Myanmar L100 manual pdf will do for the engine side.

[@jerrywaters4814]

How come you don't speak in a mic? is like you're away from the mic!

[@stanleybest8833]

To start a Chinese air cooled diesel in winter, slowly pour hot water on the cylinder. Purity of oil and fuel is important. The 168F is a small 196 CC diesel with an angled cylinder built by at least two Chinese companies, with castings and parts differences. Ether is a big hazard to use. A goofy squirt will blow up like a grenade inside. The fit and castings are excellent. Loose motors should avoid high RPM but idle must be noticably above stall speed. You should avoid full power, when you see lots of smoke. This motor is about twice the size of a 168F. Don't use a dirty funnel for oil. 15W140 is universal. The crankcase will run way cold in winter. Augment a cabin with solar panels.

[@cesarroman2309]

Hello,i have a 8000 one but i am not getting any power

[@muddstuffn]

Check the capacitor. That’s usually what goes bad. It’s usually mounted behind the exhaust side panel

[@tubemonks]

Looks identical to the KH6600 Kraft Hertz Diesel Generator

[@tubemonks]

@@8180634 I reckon they are all made in China. Eventually I bought a Black & Decker one which is still in the box. I bought it because I am waiting for the (Klaus Schwab) power cuts which I am sure they'll roll out sooner or later. You know the ones that will save the ice caps, the whales and the planet? All for our own good you see!

[@adoteyvincent7993]

How much pls

[@snowflakemelter1172]

I've rebuilt one of these, they are poor quality, lots of parts are not hardened properly and the starter motors and solenoids are trash, once they breakdown and you repair them it's never ending chasing problems. Unless your lucky you it will be out of service half the time.

[@muddstuffn]

If anything breaks i replace it with OEM Yanmar parts that are better quality. So far ive had good luck with it.

[@GoingOffGrid101]

just got a mint one of these with 10 hours on it, so its only a 6500w ah :( was hoping it was a 8500w :D

[@muddstuffn]

they put all kind of numbers on the sticker to misslead people to think they are a higher wattage. but they should have a spec sticker somewhere saying the proper wattage. may even be on the generator power head

[@GoingOffGrid101]

@@muddstuffn how many hours you have on this generator now ? is it still running well ? and fixes needed ? thanks a bunch.

[@muddstuffn]

@@GoingOffGrid101 ive got a few hundred hours on it. been pretty reliable. Capacitor and starter is about all ive had to replace on it.

[@GoingOffGrid101]

@@muddstuffn where do you buy capacitor?

[@muddstuffn]

@@GoingOffGrid101 local electric motor store.

[@toobglued]

recently there isn't a single small diesel anymore. year or two back u could find them. weird.

[@muddstuffn]

Epa is probably cracking down on imports if i was to guess.

[@juliogonzo2718]

@@muddstuffn I think that is exactly why. I'm in Canada and searched if I could buy one of the China diesels and import it and it has to be certified for emmisions and you need to fill out a declaration of emission compliance. Who knows if customs would care but not worth loosing $800 if they confiscated it.

[@Ehs-fn1zr]

Is that sinent. It's fucking so loud

[@muddstuffn]

Its quieter than an open frame design but Its not Inverter quiet though by no means.