David that was an absolutely incredible story, I was glued to my screen for every minute of this. You did a great job with your research, getting in touch with the family members and telling & narrating this story. It really is both fascinating and frustrating never actually knowing how's these little pieces of metallic history end up in the ground. This sort of video should garner the attention of TV companies, because it would make an awesome TV program
@arcadia449Күн бұрын
Cheers, mate. All detectorists wonder how these finds end up where we find them? The BBC has latched onto the story and are looking to feature it around Christmas time?
@TheDukesOfDerbyshireКүн бұрын
@arcadia449 thats brilliant
@stephenroman90155 күн бұрын
Great investigative work, you may have not found all the answers, but you learned more than you had ever anticipated. Interesting
@arcadia4494 күн бұрын
Thank you.
@Sonny-m1f5 күн бұрын
My ancestor Sir Knight Robert de Gravele is buried in st Andrews and St Mary's church in the floor. He lived under Edward longshanks. I live in America. Im coing to see one day.
@arcadia4494 күн бұрын
I envy your noble ancestry. I'll take a look in the church some time.
@Sonny-m1f4 күн бұрын
@arcadia449 thank you!
@Arthur543216 күн бұрын
Great bit of research. My head keeps coming back to the fact that the dead mans penny was folded over - I would not think that as an easy thing to do! and of course the location is a mystery. Some great suggestions around that.
@arcadia4495 күн бұрын
It took a lot of effort to straighten it out as it is made of quite thick bronze.
@darrenmaddox60747 күн бұрын
Great Video David
@arcadia4496 күн бұрын
Thank you.
@VMM347 күн бұрын
Farmers have all kinds of 'junk' hanging around in the outhouses, it's possible the plaque ended up at the wrong address, as you say, and used to cobble a hasty repair on a tractor and then fallen off in the field. Maybe it got folded as it needed to be thicker to bridge a gap in a potential bodge job. Great video you made here 👍👍
@arcadia4496 күн бұрын
Good theory?
@thebarronflights7 күн бұрын
I have a suggestion. As a long standing genealogist, you make a tree for the family. Then have their DNA done. The reason I suggest this is, this soldier may have fathered a child from that area. The mother may be the person who buried the death penny. I have tried this myself and you would be surprised what comes up. Also old news papers will reveal a lot of information. That’s my top tip. Good luck. ❤
@arcadia4496 күн бұрын
I often go to my local archives and study the old newspapers from the 1800's onwards. The stories I've uncovered are incredible, including some relating to my own ancestors. I did go to Bedfordshire Archives some years ago and unearthed some amazing material about my Grandmother's brother, who won the Military Cross in WWI.
@davewolfy29067 күн бұрын
Oddly fascinating.
@arcadia4496 күн бұрын
Amazing what comes out of the ground in the most unlikely places?
@steelhelmetstan73057 күн бұрын
Or it was stolen and chucked away....if kids got hold of it who knows. These death plaques were also used as fillers in roads, , they were the right size for filling in , tram poles I think....I read it somewhere...or saw a YT video on it. I bought a ww1 certificate on ebay for £5 , from a soldier from a village. I joined the village group and was able to reunite the family with the certificate, which along with the soldiers medals were stolen in the 1960s......😊
@arcadia4496 күн бұрын
Good theory there.
@Toddroper7 күн бұрын
Maybe his name was misspelled Rupert became Robert because of ineligible writing or a typo?
@arcadia4497 күн бұрын
I did consider that but I don't think so? I could be wrong?
@morganmarty7 күн бұрын
What a great story, Good of you to research all of the facts, thank you for sharing, I know how difficult it is to do this research, as I tried to find out details of my grandfather's brother who was killed at the second battle of Soissons in 1918 and was never found.
@arcadia4497 күн бұрын
It's unfortunate that more than half of the war records from WWI were destroyed during the blitz. It affected mostly soldiers with names starting with letters from the second half of the alphabet.
@robertburford60397 күн бұрын
very good bob
@kymvalleygardensdesign53507 күн бұрын
What a story! Well done indeed, I have a great uncle lost beneath the battlefield somewhere around Arras, did you find his attestation paper this may indicate medical conditions etc
@arcadia4497 күн бұрын
All of Rupert's war records were destroyed during the blitz
@oldsoldier11077 күн бұрын
Well done, sir. Amazing work!
@kiwiroadpirate40328 күн бұрын
Wow, that was very cool... thanks fir putting it up there 👍
@arcadia4498 күн бұрын
Cheers.
@nickjung73948 күн бұрын
Thanks very much for this. Really interesting. What you have done is so important to our history. You have certainly encouraged. me to keep digging in to my family history!
@arcadia4498 күн бұрын
I'm really considering publishing my Grand-Uncle's war diaries from his time in the trenches. They are so detailed it's like reading a novel.
@leoroverman454110 күн бұрын
I've had a similar journey, no plaques just papers.
@arcadia44910 күн бұрын
You learn some interesting things.
@timtaylor136510 күн бұрын
This is an amazing story for many reasons, your theory is quite possible because the plaque was folded in half as if to forget the mistake but buried out of respect instead of being destroyed completely. I had no idea that these plaques were given to the families of the dead soldiers. But your research was not wasted at all. Well done indeed!
@arcadia44910 күн бұрын
I've learned a lot in this hobby.
@surveyor89410 күн бұрын
Fantastic
@arcadia44910 күн бұрын
Thank you.
@davewose973710 күн бұрын
Thank you for sharing your experience, you did a wonderful thing for that family.
@TheSonsofFalstaff10 күн бұрын
The midden heap was often piled onto a cart and dumped in the fields. This is why bits of crockery are found scattered away from dwellings. It's possible the 'Devils Penny' was just thrown out the back of the house onto a rubbish dump by the family who received it in error and was deposited in the field you found it in.
@arcadia44910 күн бұрын
That's a possibility?
@northlandrider539610 күн бұрын
Great tale.
@cutsqwishsqwish372410 күн бұрын
Brilliant story
@PearsonHurst11 күн бұрын
Fantastic story, and well told. Thanks for sharing!
@arcadia44910 күн бұрын
Thank you.
@AndyNation-rr4cu11 күн бұрын
Coincidentally, I first saw that computer program this afternoon. My daughter got it for her birthday today and we were helping her to add family history. Well done, Dave for a very interesting story, which I shall now share with my daughter. 👍
@arcadia44911 күн бұрын
Cheers, Andy
@The_Plastic_Ape13 күн бұрын
Hello, would it be possible to contact you via email?
@arcadia44913 күн бұрын
I'm on Facebook?
@The_Plastic_Ape13 күн бұрын
@@arcadia449 Thank you, unfortunatly I am not on facebook, however, my email address is in my youtube "More about this Channel details"
@vetworker13 күн бұрын
What an absolutely amazing story. I was gripped throughout the whole video. I wonder if there is anything else in that field. My cousin discovered that Fredrick Fleet who was the surviving lookout on the RMS Titanic was his Great Grandfather. On my father’s side we had a relative who had been in and survived the charge of the light brigade at Balaclava. Thank you for such an interesting video.
@arcadia44913 күн бұрын
After three hours we found very little else. It's fantastic when you find noted ancestors.
@eddavis876913 күн бұрын
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@northlandrider539610 күн бұрын
How tacky, disrespectful, irrelevant and unsurprising.
@eddavis876910 күн бұрын
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@keyo52514 күн бұрын
Fantastic story- thanks for sharing - lest we forget.
@robnewman610114 күн бұрын
The George is believed to date from the mid-17th century, 1650s. There is a sad story that during the 1840s, when times were hard, two local lads broke into the pub through the daub walls and stole some wine, bread, cheese and cash. The noise they made woke the landlady and she woke the guests and residents, who went down to the cellar to see what was going on. By the time the landlady got down there, one of the miscreants was half way out of the hole in the wall with one of the guests hanging on to his legs. His accomplice had apparently been outside the pub, trying and failing to drag his friend free. Both lads were sentenced to deportation to Australia for 10 years, and at least one of them never came back, dying there in 1910.
@arcadia44914 күн бұрын
Amazing story. Thanks for that. I love hearing the lost tales.
@robnewman61018 күн бұрын
You're welcome.
@robnewman61018 күн бұрын
Essex Constabulary : Formed in 1840. Victorian Era 1837-1901.
@ThatOneGuy777-u4d15 күн бұрын
great walk thank you David, mate and I did it very recently.
@guyosborn61523 күн бұрын
Wow! Thank you! (Though I preferred the Roman ditch!)
@arcadia44923 күн бұрын
Me too. Far more interesting stuff came out of that...lol.
@guyosborn61523 күн бұрын
@@arcadia449 Will you be filming an update on the Roman "rubbish" from the drainage channel - that was my favourite KZbin clip on Roman stuff I've seen (and I've seen many and revisited your one many times). Strange, I thought I'd posted this reply earlier.
@arcadia44923 күн бұрын
@@guyosborn615 Not much to update on?
@frankmlchaelglasscock653929 күн бұрын
I think this place is full of mystery and fantasies and you will never get to the bottom of it i have since been talking to someone and they say nothing is buried there but so many people say there is it is a mystery which is is great
@PearsonHurstАй бұрын
Very, very cool!
@frankmlchaelglasscock6539Ай бұрын
The name game their was a game keeper called game up hammels Lane in the 50 and 60s i had some Runnings with him and the other game keeper was white up mentley lane Puckeridge
@arcadia449Ай бұрын
Amazing to hear that the Games were still around that area then? My 4xGreat-Grandfather, William Saggers, lived in the village at the time. He was married to Mary Game, who was young William Game's Grand Aunt.
@frankmlchaelglasscock6539Ай бұрын
interesting i must say i know that area so well but that story about The Highwayman i have heard so many different stories
@muddyboots2531Ай бұрын
I cannot get out walking at the moment so really enjoying your walk with you.
@arcadia449Ай бұрын
Same here. Knee problem which is stopping me from walking.
@stevejohnson4246Ай бұрын
We are here now it's beautiful
@debbief9861Ай бұрын
Making my way through your videos! I discovered during my family history research (fascinating!) that, prior to the very familiar trek into The Smoke (particularly the poorest part of East London), my family were in the Aldbury area of Herefordshire, and nearby counties - ie. Bucks and Beds, as was often the case.) There's so many questions to ponder when you're trying to get a feel of what your ancestors' lives involved, not to mention the decision finally to leave the countryside and head into the big city - London, in this case. I'm sure I'll be posting more comments!
@debbief9861Ай бұрын
Ps. I did watch your Aldbury video previously. Just about to watch it again. Incredible to think of family members there, hundreds of years back.
@arcadia449Ай бұрын
Many of my ancestors lived in rural areas and were agricultural labourers. In the 1880's the price of wheat collapsed when they began importing cheaper grain from America. This led to thousands of farm workers being made redundant. Many upsticks and headed to the towns and cities to find alternative work.
@debbief9861Ай бұрын
@@arcadia449 thanks. Yes, I've researched the events affecting the local economy and jobs. I looked at my dad's family name, as a start. Interestingly it's Fenn, and my research certainly indicates I'd be tracing the family back to the Fens! People often originally had names associated with their surroundings, as you know. I've followed backwards from East London to St Albans to Aldbury, then across the border into Bucks and Beds. It might be difficult to find any records further back, but I'm sure it would take me further eastwards. Anyway, there's always something and someone to look into! It's the most incredibly interesting and awe-inspiring activity. It's not just filling out a tree. It's researching and thinking about the lives and the environment and the relationships. Whereabouts were your people?
@arcadia449Ай бұрын
@@debbief9861 I learned that Geoff Capes was my cousin. Sadly he's just passed away.
@debbief9861Ай бұрын
@@arcadia449 sorry to hear that.
@DavidBennett-hh1tzАй бұрын
Fascinating thank you.
@barbaralamson7450Ай бұрын
Good to see you again. This is a very interesting and historicly important video. Thank you, see you on the next one.
@frankmlchaelglasscock6539Ай бұрын
Very interesting i must say i no that area very well but you have taught me something new 👍
@arcadia449Ай бұрын
Thanks for the comment.
@donnaribotto2651Ай бұрын
I always come back knowing that I will have a fine walk with the r just the right amount of narrative, interesting views and excellent photography.
@tonysadler5290Ай бұрын
I was born in Bengeo - my grandfather had the Saddle and Harness shop on Bull Plain between and until just after the war. I spent my early years in and around Hertford until my Dad's work ( He worked at De Havaland, later Hawker Sidley) necessitated us moving away in the late 60s. Mum was born in Ware! Her maiden name was Catlin and her father Fred, raced at Brooklands in the doudle 12s as engineer with George Robets (a colourful character about Hertford in that time) driving. I haven't been back much, not at all for a long time, so thank you for bringng back memories I thought forgotten. Regards Tony Sadler.
@arcadia449Ай бұрын
Thank you. I have quite a few family history connections around there also. One of my ancestors was the lock keeper at Ware.
@robnewman6101Ай бұрын
Essex Police : Formed in 1840. Victorian Era 1837-1901.
@robnewman6101Ай бұрын
Nineteenth Century workers' cottages, Hallingbury Woodside Green. Victorian Era 1837-1901.
@robnewman6101Ай бұрын
Our friend Bobbie who lived at Woodside Green, she once had this Alice in Wonderland fancy dress theme party. She herself went as Her Majesty The Queen of Hearts.
@eddavis8769Ай бұрын
hello im looking for old friend of mine gerry brown lived in hertford in mid 80s any help would be great im in usa thank you
@arcadia449Ай бұрын
If I find out anything I'll let you know.
@eddavis8769Ай бұрын
@@arcadia449 thank you so much
@LYRIK_literaturforum2 ай бұрын
Beautiful impressions with this peaceful music and the factual information about Ludlow. Very well done! Thank you, David and Sylvie.
@arcadia4492 ай бұрын
Thank you.
@GiorgosPlanar2 ай бұрын
I love the tenderness with which people talk about this aircraft.
@arcadia4492 ай бұрын
I've seen it fly a few times and it was awesome.
@GiorgosPlanar2 ай бұрын
@arcadia449 I used to live in Reading in the early 00's so she was rattling my windows every now and then. Also was working in Rolls Royce where the pride for this project is embedded in the company DNA. It was a beautiful thing they made. Funnily my son (now 8) is discovered this aircraft from my books and is obsessed about it without me saying anything to him.
@arcadia4492 ай бұрын
@@GiorgosPlanar Perhaps you could take him to Duxford and let him walk through it?
@GiorgosPlanar2 ай бұрын
@arcadia449 no longer living in the UK but next time we come it is on the list :)