the video i was looking for!

This faster than the cpu in 800 dollars ps5 Pro 😂😅😂

Haven't using stock cooler from AMD since Athlon XP 2000+. Even the cheapest aftermarket cooler is better than stock cooler.

I just sold my B550 Tomhawk , 32GB kit Samsung b-die 4x8 and 5800x3D , Got MSI Pro x670- Pro Wi-Fi , 32 GB Hynix A-Die 2x16 , and 7500F. I paid only a difference of $10 due to using AliExpress Coupon! @techyescity , can super tune 7500f using PBO and max static overclock and benchmark while tightening a hynix A-die using buildzoid's guide and make it versus 5700x3d and 5800x3d ?

DURON 8400F

parts bin special!!

It is like the 7500F but it just have 16x PCIe Lanes (4.0) usable, so you can use it only when the NVMe SSD is installed in the M.2 Slot from the Chipset. Otherwise the main PCIe Slot runs at 8x speed. The CPU is absolutely insane for this price, when PCIe 4.0 and the fewer Lanes are no problem. Like a Budget AM5 System where you plan to upgrade in 2 years anyway and buy a good mainboard.

why exactly are you testing 1080p low settings? When you oc'd it were you on a custom or chilled waterloop or aio? No point in overlocking on aio honestly, we really didn't need to perform this test to know that.

As a buyer of 10 ARC gpu's can't wait for Battle Mage. These cards provide incredible levels of performance for money

I got 180hz for 88$ so can buy

Hello, I saw that you talk a lot about the x58 platform, what is the best GPU for a xeon x5650 Overclocked and its strongest variants?

No warranty when you buy an AliExpress tray CPU. Also, this CPU has half the L3 cache of the 7500F and, as the X3D CPUs have shown, more cache makes a difference in most games. Until a recent 5700X3D upgrade, I was using a Ryzen 5500. With overclocking, I could get it to perform the same as a 5600 on synthetic benchmarks but it would still be a few frames behind a 5600 in a lot of games due to having half the L3 cache. Still, it performed significantly better than the Ryzen 2600 I had for my first AM4 CPU, which also only had 16MB of L3 cache. The 3600 doubled the cache which was responsible for a substantial amount of the performance uplift on Zen 2. While you can somewhat make up for lower cache with substantially higher clock speed, there are a lot of games these days which are CPU cache limited. Often, you can observe CPU bottlenecks where the overall CPU utilization is well under 100%, which is either a single thread performance limitation or a cache limitation. The 5700X3D is the last new AM4 CPU I will buy (my 7th AM4 CPU). The 2600 was the first. In CPU intensive games, the 5700X3D delivers around double the framerate of the 2600. It represents a truly unparalleled level of CPU development on a single platform and the 5700X3D will rock hard for a few more years. I have a massive amount of room for a GPU upgrade. TL;DR, A CPU with less than 32MB of L3 cache is really cutting corners these days. You will have a noticeable reduction in framerate with most titles from this decade. And most esports titles. Just as we are now in the era where 32GB is the ideal minimum for gaming, so to is 32MB of L3 cache the ideal minimum. The 8400F is best left to only the most low spec of gaming builds. Would be fine with something like a 3050 6GB or a 2060. Also, the 8400F only has 20 PCIe lanes, so GL if you want to run a GPU and more than one NVMe drive. You're most likely going to be cutting the speed of your drives with the 8400F, whereas the 7500F has 24 lanes and can take two gen 4 drives at full speed. NVMe through the chipset is...slow. 2:35 There may not be a huge difference with a budget GPU between a 7500F and 8400F but there are significant differences between either of those CPUs and a 5700X3D. And the benefit of that much cache is still not broadly recognized because, while higher max FPS might be the goal for a lot of people, all the frames in the world are useless if you have wildly inconsistent frametimes. X3D technology helps to smooth out the gameplay considerably. I run Cyberpunk at 1440p medium with FSR quality on a particularly good example of a RX6600 that, when overclocked, benchmarks at 90% of the rasterization performance of an average 4060. With the 5500, I had to lock it at 60fps to ensure I never had any stutters or frame drops. After getting the 5700X3D, I now have it locked at 90fps. That is a huge difference in practical, real world performance. Benchmarking really doesn't show real world performance differences well.

Im thinking of getting this on the cheap and pair with asrock a620m hdv+ Shud be a great build for $170++ Will it game ez on 1080p144? Playing warzone mostly😂

If it were priced the same in my country, it would've been a great choice. But for that price, the most decent CPU we can get is either a 5600 or a 12400f.

Compared to 5700x 5600, how does it stack?

Slow ram on 8400f the 8000 chips cam do ddr5 8000 with relieve eases

quick tip to anyone buying from aliexpress like cpu or gpu look at the seller and see their score percentage to get their real percentage like for example 94% sounds really good right? WRONG if you remove the 9 that will give you around the average score of the seller so their real score is 4/10 anything over 6 is good and higher is even better just make sure they also have alot of sales

More Cache more FPS.

Can I buy one from you to upgrade from my potato.

As an ex budget gamer, i would love to see a performance per dollar graph comparison , at realistic settings (1080p60fps high 1440p60fps medium) with a realistic gpu (6600xt rtx4060), between this CPU (and the x3d chips for the fun of it)

Better Wait for 9500F /9700x3D / 9000 non-x series next year....Beside, u need Bios update for 8000 series on older mobo.

I like the fact you addressed the elephant in the room. Things are getting tougher for many financially. People selling to downgrade is an option to get you threw to the next payday but keep your system in tact.

Just bought a 9700x, b650m pro rs, gskill flare x5 6000 cl30 and a pure rock 2. i opted for the 9700x because of the lower energy consumption. with -40 mv all core i got 22200 points on cb r23. i think this is where this cpu shines. the 7700x was just 20 euros cheaper.

Hello brian. It would be very interesting to see 8700f also. More cores vs more cache. Keep up your fantastic work. 👍

What about dust ??? What u can tell about?

USE MID RANGE GPUS ON THESE FORMS OF COMPARISONS... I BET LESS THAN 5% ACTUALLY HAVE 4090

default score is 12934pts. -30 (12545) and -50 (13100) gave me the worst scores in cinebench32. -40 was around 13152pts. I narrowed it down to -35 with 13243pts as the best output. 5700x3d was bought from Aliexpress.

aliexpress sellers legit?

Nice find ! Long time viewer, first time poster... Thanks for your hard work ! :D

8400f is singlecore 7% faster then the ryzen 5 5600g and 2% slower at multicore ... so is it really worth? 3years old apu vs. a6month old apu with deactivated igpu... not really a upgrade from am4 to am5 cpu i think :D

Where's the x58 x79 and x99 content sould try e5 2667v2 $3nzd and more cheap xeons

8400f It's extremely efficient CPU . Together with 4070super is perfect combination for quiet and efficient system There's no difference between the CPUs when you are playing 1440p

What Router did you get as I wouldn't mind getting one the same as at the minute I have a NOKIA ONT+eero Router as I would prefer to have just the one unit.

i dont need to watch video and no its not better then 7500f , its slower then r5 5600/x in gaming and that is reason why it is so cheap

The 8700F is closer to price comparable with the 7500F, so while you still suffer the shortage of PCIE lanes and half the cache, you get 8C/16T vs 6C/12T

Interesting I am starting to see games and work info more. Would have been nice to see before but I'll take what I can get. Lord knows games seem to be more popular to talk about but in all honesty those days are gone sucks but but yeah gone.

Budget banger AM5 battle go!

Ty i hate the bios on my asus prime as well, ordered 5700x3d to upgrade my 3700x since upgrading to 6900 xt ive used a few apps for adjustments and non seem to compare to intel xtu with unlocked cpu for the user IO and settings. Ill def check this one out

If i click zhe link, page said sold out, and if i search for that cpu in the search field i get no results... Strange... But greetings from germany..

So do i need to go into Bios and do what your doing. I have a MAG B650 tomahawk wifi motherboard

who is going to pair $90 cpu with rtx 4090, which costs $1500 price.

wc back bro! was puzzled why ur videos not showing up. guess uve been busy this month. hope all is well :)

nope!

90 bucks it say 175 bucks for me man i hate fking youtube

5600 is still a better option for the price range imo, cheap DDR5 RAM is pretty bad value

hi brian, you must consider Ryzen 7 8700f too at current price. It cost same as ryzen 7500f, with better productivity and power efficiency 👍

Isnt this a reasonable upgrade from the legendary Athlon AM4? Would be great to see that comparison.

Sorry to disagree, but pairing a really cheap cpu with a 4090 for me has no sense. I totally get why you do it, as you clearly explained, but for me is incorrect if the content aims to help viewers considering that cpu. Not a single one on Earth will pair those two things in real life. A 15% difference on that device combination run at 1080p, could make someone think that exists a real difference amounting that, but when paired with an matching low-mid or dead low-bugget card, the differences could and probably will drop to a minimum. Maybe even less than here at 4k? who knows... My suggestion would be to keeping or not this "not gpu limited" test, an actual one battery of tests with a matching card or set of cards against the other contending CPU model/s could do wonders to see both the real impact, and what can be expected from those pairs. I know this is a total different approach to testing, but is the one I am missing from a lot of testing channels, so maybe it can land some extra audience. Don´t get me wrong. I have no personal interest at all for myself on that CPU, but I like to be somehow informed about all what there is around, so I whatched the video and will watch future ones as I like the channel. Sadly, I realized if a friend asked me as today about purchasing it, I wouldn´t be able to recommend or not, as I have no clue about the real impact this CPU could provide on a given low budget system real scenario. Well, even on the negative feedback side, I hope this counts to help the algothing. As always, thanks for the content!

2:10 Yes you are true. No one expect you talks about this and I from my bottom of my heart thank you for this. You are much more practicle😁

I got an i7 1280p (Es) all in one board coming from AliExpress. I'm curious to see how it does. I got it just to mess around with, but it'll probably end up being my son's PC. His PC is a Xeon v2 that performs very well but it's missing instruction sets and he needs to switch to solid state storage.