Unfortunately, I don’t know of anything in that price range. I wish that wasn’t the case!
@zdenek54683 күн бұрын
Great video. I like this bike a lot. I'm seriously thinking about buying it. Unfortunately, I am exactly on the border between sizes 56 and 58. I tried both sizes and I felt better with size 56. But when I saw myself in the video and photos, I feel that it is small for me. I am 180.5 cm tall and my inseam is 85 cm. I should probably say I've only ridden a mountain bike so far. Could you tell me what size Trek Domane SL 5 wheel you have and how tall you are and what your inseam is? When I see you riding this bike, it looks great on you. Thank you for your reply
@hikerbikeromar3 күн бұрын
Hey, thanks for the comment! I am 185 cm tall with a 86.5 cm inseam. Funny enough, I am also exactly in between sizes, although for me it’s between 58 and 60. Similar to you, I tried both and felt the 58 felt better, so I went with the 58, but they both felt great. For you, I’d probably go more based on how it feels rather than how it looks. As long as it feels natural and like you could maintain the position for several hours, you should be good. Feel free to keep me posted!
@kiddygia80133 күн бұрын
Could you please review caledonia 2024 Base version for entry level people? Most of the reviews focus on the Caledonia 5. Thanks!
@Helldivers2Guy3 күн бұрын
Good test!
@hikerbikeromar3 күн бұрын
Thanks!
@beleebit4 күн бұрын
How tall are you? I got a size 56 as well and I am 5’11 with 81cm in-seam. You seem around 6’2 if I’m not mistaken. How would you say the frame sizes run?
@hikerbikeromar4 күн бұрын
I’m 6’1 with an 86.5 cm inseam, and in retrospect, I think the 56 was too small. The sizes run pretty standard to other brands, so if you typically ride a 56, I think that would be a good choice for you here too.
@cyclingchef35314 күн бұрын
Great Video, any idea if this frameset can handle mechanical shifting?
@hikerbikeromar4 күн бұрын
Thanks! It can handle mechanical shifting, yep.
@e.anthonyi80544 күн бұрын
Same bike is 40% more expensive now 😅
@universe-juice6 күн бұрын
Hey buddy, have news. Got a checkpoint sl5 yesterday. And am aggressively loving it! Gave up on the felt (for now). Just couldnt make it happen. Checkpoint, with my cadex slr2s is FIRE 🔥 😍
@hikerbikeromar6 күн бұрын
Awesome! Glad you like it. You’ll have to keep me posted with how it rides and you use it more. I’ve never tried a checkpoint but always heard good things. Was the felt just too aggressive and uncomfortable? I feel like I am sort of giving up on aero bikes too.
@universe-juice6 күн бұрын
@@hikerbikeromar Felt is solid. Im currently living in 2 different cities. 2 weeks in 1 and 2 weeks in the other. So i needed a bike for the other city i live in. Is a pain but nothing i cant handle. Anyway, checkpoint is incredible! Highly recomend. Riding the AR in Louisville, and riding the checkpoint in Paducah. Wanted a Felt carbon breed but just couldnt find one.
@hikerbikeromar5 күн бұрын
Got it! Makes sense. Side note - I used to live in Louisville too. Wasn’t into biking back then, it I imagine it’s a nice place for it. Glad you like the checkpoint! One day, I’m sure I’ll get to check it out.
@universe-juice4 күн бұрын
@@hikerbikeromar im positive you will like it. Just super impressed by this thing 🤣
@hurti10007 күн бұрын
Thanks for your vids. I wanna buy my first road bike. The sl 5 is not available as of now so i thought about the al 4 or the bmc roadmachine three. So both bikes stand the test of time in your opinion?
@hikerbikeromar7 күн бұрын
Absolutely! Both bikes will last a very very long time. If I were you, I’d go for the Domane if it’s your first road bike. I think you will find it to be more comfortable. However, you really can’t go wrong with either one.
@johnyoon539911 күн бұрын
You know something interesting, on the topic of power output and speed, I think some frames have a definite advantage over others in terms of power transfer and efficiency. Anecdotally, the Aethos has the most efficient power transfer of any bike I've ever ridden (albeit, I don't have much experience with really high-end bikes). It really stands out in terms of how easy it is to pedal. It seriously feels like there is an electric motor giving you a slight push. Diabetic Cycling on YT also noted that the Tarmac SL8, which inherited some design characteristics from the Aethos, is the easiest riding bike he's ever ridden (and he rides all the high-end bikes). He even measured the power output on the SL8 and found that he consistently saved a non-insignificant amount of power (I think 10W) for the same speed on other bikes.
@hikerbikeromar11 күн бұрын
Interesting, thank you for sharing! I have yet to try the aethos, but i've heard others echo similar sentiment.
@scottboepple790312 күн бұрын
I think people just need to except the fact that aero bike itself in compared to your body position is extremely marginal....I did an all out 6 mile effort recently on my 16lb rim brake venge on chip seal and a few rollers and maintained 22.2 mph then the next day under the exact same weather conditions including wind speed and direction , thought , well let me see what I can do the same ride on my OLD aluminum specialized allez 19 lb 2008 model and results were 21.9 mph.....I was expecting a much bigger diffrence
@hikerbikeromar12 күн бұрын
Interesting, thanks for sharing!
@eloymunozasensio783112 күн бұрын
He decidido comprar una domane sl5 gracias a tu video y puesto que tengo una hernia discal busco comodidad total. Mi consulta es sobre el manillar: Hablas de un modelo arrow. Me podrías poner un enlace de compra o escribir exactamente el modelo y medidas que tu tienes. Yo mido 1’82 y 85 de entrepierna e imagino que tu misma talla me quedará con un guante. Gracias y saludos!!!
@hikerbikeromar12 күн бұрын
¡Gracias por ver mis vídeos! Estoy muy feliz de que hayas obtenido algún beneficio de ellos. El manillar que estoy usando es el manillar Enve Aero, de 44 cm de ancho. enve.com/products/aero-handlebar?variant=45111161913628 Es bastante caro, por lo que no es necesario utilizar exactamente ese. Creo que cualquier manillar de entre 42 cm y 44 cm de ancho probablemente debería quedarte bien, supongo. ¡Buena suerte!
@kiwi2220714 күн бұрын
I got thks at 2499 yesterday plus the shop paid the sales tax. Cant wait to take it out.
@hikerbikeromar14 күн бұрын
Amazing price!!
@angelaselvaggio725115 күн бұрын
i love your videos! I can't believe you forgot my birthday! I LOVE your technique and want to be on your channel. I want your channel to be called "Hiker Biker Omar and Ariella"
@hikerbikeromar15 күн бұрын
Love it!!
@prestachuck286716 күн бұрын
Smoother really is faster. Remember that Cancellara preferred racing on the O.G. Trek Domane' over the Madone, and he won some pretty important races onboard a Domane'. Trek claims that the Gen 4 Domane' is significantly more aerodynamic than Gen3.
@hikerbikeromar16 күн бұрын
Great point!
@prestachuck286716 күн бұрын
Hey, great video! I too am a former racer. I raced for decades, and there were many great times, but my days of killing it in road races and crits are behind me now. I turned 60 this year, and I want a machine that I can make go as fast as I need on group rides and at the occasional sportive, but has a little bit less tightly sprung, less twitchy demeanor. I have a 2024/5 Domane SL5 Gen4 arriving tomorrow along with a set of the Aeolus Elite 37 carbon wheels. I will load some 700x32c Conti GP5000STR tires onto those Aeolus wheels. I do plan to also swap out the handlebar for an S-Works carbon Hover Bar. Yes, I know some think it's a sin to place a Brand S handlebar on a Trek, but it's a great way to maintain the smooth ride, reduce saddle-to-handlebar drop without installing a riser stem, and shave a lot of weight. Those stock IsoZone handlebars are not only too wide, but also HEAVY. The stock saddle will also go away, my lower chassis doesn't get along with short-nose saddles or saddles with big cutouts. I've found comfort with SQ-Labs saddles. Saddles and handlebars can be a bit like shoes and gloves. Sort of a personal fitting option. This looks like a great bike for me to enjoy for at least the next decade.
@hikerbikeromar16 күн бұрын
Congrats on the purchase! You will absolutely love the bike, it's amazing. And I totally agree with what you said about the SQ-Labs saddles! I have one on my aero bike and love it, and I actually plan on replacing the saddle on this Domane with one as well. I did another video where I compared this Domane to an aero race bike which you might find interesting: kzbin.info/www/bejne/nXaxhXukntqAhdk Thank you for sharing!
@prestachuck286716 күн бұрын
@@hikerbikeromar Thanks for the reply. Cheers!
@jeffreysaffir137520 күн бұрын
Really enjoy your videos. They are very level headed, real world for regular riders and well thought out. Keep up the good work sir. I am 61 and ride a 2022 SLR Domane. I removed some spacers, cut the steerer tube, added Aeolus Pro 37 TLR's, Pirelli P Zero Race TL R's in 30's and an ENVE Carbon AR Road bar. As much as I would like to try a dedicated race bike to experience the ride, I don't race anyone but myself lol so the Domane it is.
@hikerbikeromar20 күн бұрын
Thank you so much! 🙏
@Robboa121 күн бұрын
The concern for me is that the low gears are missing!
@universe-juice21 күн бұрын
Hey buddy! Good to hear from you. I gave my domane to my brother. He really needed it. Point is, i miss it BAD. Anyone reading this, dont give away your domane!
@hikerbikeromar21 күн бұрын
Hey man! Wow, thanks for sharing! What about your Felt? Do you prefer the Domane over the Felt?
@universe-juice21 күн бұрын
@@hikerbikeromar the felt is a work of art. But, its definitely not a puttn around kind of bike. It really only has one purpose. To put you in a position that makes you go fast. Comfort isnt a consideration. I have a giant revolt advance 0. I putt around on that, but i really, REALLY, miss my trek domane!
@hikerbikeromar20 күн бұрын
@@universe-juice Understood! Makes total sense. Hopefully your brother lets you use it from time to time :)
@universe-juice20 күн бұрын
@@hikerbikeromar Yeah, hes a good guy and im trying to get him to exercise more. I thought a $4000 bike might help. It did, but i definitely miss my bike 😞
@universe-juice20 күн бұрын
@@hikerbikeromar BTW, i put aeolus gravel rims on it with 32c gatorskins. And OMG does that thing rip 🤣
@davidroter558022 күн бұрын
Have you experienced any ISO speed creaking under seat
@hikerbikeromar21 күн бұрын
I have not, no.
@davidroter558021 күн бұрын
@@hikerbikeromar put down deposit today and i am a bit worried I think it has rev. 1 iso . Bike is on sale 3 199.00 dollars Canadian went down from 4500.00 I am 160 pounds maybe it only creaks for heavier guys what do you think?
@hikerbikeromar21 күн бұрын
Hmm, I can’t speak too much to it since I don’t have any experience with it. If not does creak, I doubt it would just be for heavier people. However, I also doubt it will be much of a problem. Even if it does creak, I would bet it is just a cosmetic/audio issue, and won’t actually break or anything. Did the shop you bought it from confirm it was a rev 1?
@davidroter558021 күн бұрын
@@hikerbikeromar no not confirmed yet. I am going on Tuesday for the plunge or get deposit back Based on what I have heard in reviews,forums 60% of people complained about this issue, N ow I hear they are even upto Rev. 5 on this part. What's your opinion on fx6 sport newest version maybe that's a better deal.
@hikerbikeromar21 күн бұрын
@@davidroter5580 I'm personally not a fan of the FX sport series for long rides. They only allow your arms and hands to sit in one position, and it gets pretty uncomfortable over an hour or more. I think the Domane is a much more comfortable bike. The FX series is comfortable for a few minutes, but I think the Domane is definitely more comfortable than the FX. See what the dealer says about the creaking seatpost, maybe they have a known solution, or at least can give recommendations on warranty?
@Harleytravels-m1t22 күн бұрын
Great review , I was given an old Mavic which old Tiagra 3x8 , it had never been serviced or cleaned , I rode it and the gears snicked in despite years of crud on them , its also got rim brakes and they work great too , its a great groupset that should be around for some time (I think 105 mechanical is being phased out ?) .
@hikerbikeromar22 күн бұрын
Cool! Yeah I think the 105 mech is slowly being phased out, although they did just release a new 12 spd version. My guess is the new ones going forward will be electronic only. Thanks for watching!
@jcabslovesu223 күн бұрын
I am pretty new in the cycling community but would like to get my first bike that will be my forever bike until it degrades.. i just put in an order for this FX SPORT 4 since there is a sale currently. Cant wait!😊
@hikerbikeromar23 күн бұрын
Awesome!
@Lexikon31823 күн бұрын
Great review. How tall are you?Riding size 56?
@hikerbikeromar23 күн бұрын
Thanks! I’m 185cm in height with an 86.5 cm inseam, riding a size 58. Fits me like a glove.
@harrisr.797923 күн бұрын
Wider tires roll faster. Believe:)
@Jujubees22524 күн бұрын
Just looking at the gearing it looks like mountain biking gearing. No way it keeps up with road bikes lol.
@rejickmukherjee915424 күн бұрын
Why all endurance bikes and such narrow selection of brands. There are way more great bikes in each if those points
@s1alker56424 күн бұрын
Such heavy disc brake bikes
@aldrinclementina429724 күн бұрын
A simple and clear review. But like you said. I believe the aerobike would've been faster on a longer rider. That's what the brands tells us. "This model is ...% faster on a ...km distance" 😂 Thanks for sharing. I'm at the verge of moving from an Bianchi 928L(climbing bike) to a Merida Reacto (Aero bike) 😁
@hikerbikeromar24 күн бұрын
For sure, I may redo the test at a longer distance and see what happens. Thanks for watching! Merida Reacto is an amazing looking bike!
@roberts115925 күн бұрын
Interesting real world comparison of these two bikes. I have a 2023 Domane SL 6 and it works for this 71 year old ! Race geometry is a thing of the past for me.
@hikerbikeromar25 күн бұрын
It’s becoming more of a thing of the past for me too!
@smkaz8125 күн бұрын
Great content 👌 👏 Question, wouldn't a wider tire be slower 🤔, the contact patch is larger so would require more effort to move it, why do you think the new Toyota prius has such skinny tires, to make it more fuel efficient, but you are using more of your energy on a wider tire...
@hikerbikeromar25 күн бұрын
Thanks! Yeah that's what I always thought too, and I think a lot of people do. There's a lot of science nowadays trying to explain why wider tires are actually faster on bicycles, but it's still hard to wrap my head around.
@smkaz8125 күн бұрын
@@hikerbikeromar thanks for the quick reply.. So, why do "race" bikes come with such skinny tires & why are those bikes so limited as to putting on wider tires 🤔 Trek emonda sl5 is supposed to be quicker than the domane & max tire size is only 28mm...why would they limit it to only 28mm if they want it to be quicker I'm just trying to understand this Thanks again & keep up the great content as always 👍 👌
@hikerbikeromar25 күн бұрын
@@smkaz81 Hey yeah for sure! So to be fair, this is sort of an emerging science and it's considered new information to the cycling world. A lot of people like me still don't fully understand the physics behind it. But essentially the theory states that wider tires are faster mostly because of road imperfections. Since most roads are not completely smooth, really skinny tires will experience micro bumps as they traverse the road surface, whereas wider tires will glide over more smoothly. The micro bumps that skinny tires experience basically translates to higher rolling resistance, and hence a slower speed. Most race bikes nowadays have leaned into this trend and now offer tire clearance wider than we've ever seen before. The Cervelo S5 for example I believe has 34mm tire clearance. There is a limit though. Most people seem to indicate 30mm is about the limit before the aerodynamics of a wider tire start to work against you more so than rolling resistance. I'm certainly no expert, but that's the theory!
@smkaz8125 күн бұрын
@@hikerbikeromar I've always wondered why bike manufacturers have been increasing tire size capabilities on bikes, I thought it was only to provide better off road experience, didn't ever think it could have any thing to do with speed 🙂 Learn something new... what's your thoughts on the giant revolt, or even the defy .. I test rode a revolt, it was super comfortable but ran out of steam ( gears) pretty quickly... Keep up the great content 👏 👌 👍
@hikerbikeromar25 күн бұрын
@smkaz81 thank you! I haven’t tried either of those bikes actually, but they have excellent reputations. I know for sure that, from what I hear from other people, that they are indeed stellar bikes.
@tommyfreckmann685726 күн бұрын
I highly doubt the tires would make up even half of that difference. And tubes definitely only a few watts compared to tubeless if using butyl. I recently did a test of my Colnago C40 to my Dogma F10 with identical fitment, same wheels used and PM. The F10 is literally only .1 mph. That is Decimal Point( .1) mph faster. That is it! Sometimes having a higher front end is faster as it can reduce frontal area more, increased comfort.
@hikerbikeromar25 күн бұрын
Interesting! Thanks for sharing. And I agree, I'd really have to repeat this test several times over to see what trends emerge.
@markymark984626 күн бұрын
Actually, it's tyres comparison :-)
@hikerbikeromar26 күн бұрын
True!
@pashonic26 күн бұрын
Awsome video. I have same domane bike in 52 with 37 pro wheel set with 34mm tires. One recent thing I did is replace the 105 bushing pulley wheels with ultegra ball bearing, noticed a smoothness improvement in shifting and pedaling; also won't blow up after 750miles.
@hikerbikeromar26 күн бұрын
Awesome!
@harrywebster675226 күн бұрын
Good little test…the other variable that would provide more complete comparison is to change average speed. Wind resistance increases with square of speed. If rolling resistance is dominant at lower speed as you tested, you would see aero differences magnified as you increase average course speed. Would be interested to see your results from such a test. Same course, just different range of speeds above 18mph
@pashonic26 күн бұрын
Ya a down hill test with no wind that pushes bike beyond 20mph would be good
@hikerbikeromar26 күн бұрын
Good idea, thanks for the feedback!
@marlonhernandez70626 күн бұрын
Buying it next week
@hikerbikeromar26 күн бұрын
You’ll love it!
@marlonhernandez70614 күн бұрын
@@hikerbikeromar I have not ride in over 7 years plus I am disabled. I was able to do 28 miles for starters. The bike felt great and I’m hoping to get much stronger and faster. I had a 14 mile average with slight elevation.
@hikerbikeromar14 күн бұрын
@@marlonhernandez706 That's fanstastic! 28 miles is a great distance. Glad to know!
@Bedrick27 күн бұрын
I'm getting the newer Domane SL5 gen 4 with the 12 speed drive train. Can't wait.
@hikerbikeromar27 күн бұрын
Awesome bike!
@ryanhulsey346027 күн бұрын
Do you know what your measurement is from center of bottom bracket to the center of saddle rails (to the top of saddle is a little more difficult to get an accurate measurement on)?
@hikerbikeromar27 күн бұрын
For me it’s at 81 cm.
@ryanhulsey346027 күн бұрын
@@hikerbikeromar to the saddle rails? (sorry for the confusion).
@hikerbikeromar27 күн бұрын
@@ryanhulsey3460 Ah sorry, thanks for clarifying! Not to the saddle rails, that measurement is from the center of the bottom bracket to the the very top of the saddle (where the body makes the actual contact with it). I don't have the bike anymore, so I can't measure to the rails, but I imagine it would be around 79cm.
@ryanhulsey346027 күн бұрын
This was a size 58? Do you know your cycling inseam and your height? Was asking because I have the 61 but feel it is too big for me and wondered if the 58 would work.
@hikerbikeromar27 күн бұрын
I am 185 cm tall with a 86.5 cm inseam. I was on the border between a 58 and a 61. If I could go back, I probably would have opted for a 61 since the stack height on the 58 was a bit low for my liking.
@ryanhulsey346027 күн бұрын
I just took all my measurements again. My height is 191 cm and my cycling inseam is 92.7 cm. My measurement from center of bottom bracket to top of saddle is 83.1 cm (79 cm to center of saddle rail).
@hikerbikeromar27 күн бұрын
@@ryanhulsey3460 Ah OK, so you are probably best be fit on a 61 then. I'm shorter than you on the 58 sometimes feel too small for me, but it's hard to say. You might find the stack is too short on the 58, but I'd probably consider a bike fit first to help diagnose any issues.
@ryanhulsey346027 күн бұрын
@@hikerbikeromar Hey thanks for the response to all my comments. Yeah that's the biggest problem with the 58...the stack drops to a 610 (61 cm frame is a 644) which is kinda crazy that much drop between frame sizes. So you are given these bikes for a short period of time to test ride them and make videos about them??
@hikerbikeromar27 күн бұрын
@@ryanhulsey3460 Yep! Although I am not given them by the actual manufacturers. Just by friends and family. I appreciate you watching!
@sertac100029 күн бұрын
Great topic I just got domane al 5 and not really happy with it Do not know what the reason behind, it’s not giving me the feeling that I was expecting
@hikerbikeromar29 күн бұрын
@@sertac1000 interesting! Those bikes are usually pretty top notch, but maybe it’s the aluminum frame that is holding you back?
@road-cycling29 күн бұрын
I'm on a Cervelo S5. I used to ride a canyon Aeroad. Bottom line, the S5 is worth it. Of course, it is better to ride the S5 if you have a flexible body. If you have a stiff body, you may regret buying the bike. I didn't buy the S5 because I'm rich, I bought it because I'm crazy about bikes. The S5 is just out of nowhere fast. Canyon Aeroad is showing me graphs and telling me theirs is the fastest. But when you ride it, it's different. Of course, there's a lot to think about when you buy an S5. Wheelsets, tires, and even chain oil. One thing's for sure, if the S5 is your dream bike, you'll be happy with it.
@OliviaGarcia-d6gАй бұрын
would it be possible to hide the cables somehow?
@hikerbikeromarАй бұрын
Unfortunately no. I too wish they could be hidden.
@evankaplan8114Ай бұрын
Noticed the Roadmachine 01 Four is on sale for a similar price. Would you suggest that or the Roadmachine Three given similar price point?
@hikerbikeromarАй бұрын
Oh wow, just noticed that too! That's a really awesome deal. I would absolutely go for the Roadmachine 01 Four instead. It's going to be a better carbon, a better wheelset, and an integrated cockpit. Between the two for almost the same price, I'd say the 01 Four is a no brainer. You may even be able to negotiate a bit more off as well. Thanks for sharing!
@marokthegodАй бұрын
12:58 Squirell in the background <3
@disloyalyou5455Ай бұрын
The claim for the V shape stem is when you ride it slammed the wind goes through en attaches to the top tube and that is faster
@JIMMYHIBBS1Ай бұрын
very dramatic
@HireCoopАй бұрын
great video. thanks for the tips. i think i’ll be getting this bike. upgrading from a TREK FX2 and i’m just looking for better performance/ speed without losing the ability to do a little gravel riding.
@hikerbikeromarАй бұрын
I think this is the perfect option for you! You’ll love it.
@CircletakesthejakeАй бұрын
Wondering if you tried a soloist?
@hikerbikeromarАй бұрын
I have yes. Actually, I also did a review on it too linked below. I personally didn't tell much difference between the S5 vs Soloist, but I'm sure others would disagree. Since the Soloist is more affordable, it's easier to recommend. kzbin.info/www/bejne/b4StfqCgaMuba5I
@MikeOttigerАй бұрын
Thanks for the review, great information! Curious as to your opinion on how the Trek Domane SL5 Gen 4 would compare to BMC's Roadmachine Five?
@hikerbikeromarАй бұрын
Thanks! Both are great bikes. The 2023 Roadmachine is going to be a bit more aggressive and will probably feel a bit snappier and more racy, whereas the Domane in my opinion is more comfortable and predictable. I actually did a review on the 2023 Roadmachine Three which you can find below, which is similar to the Roadmachine Five. kzbin.info/www/bejne/a4DKg2CMh6ufjJIsi=QWiWnaCRje8yGX06 The brand new 2025 Roadmachine I haven't ridden yet, but judging by the geometry, it will have a higher stack than the Domane but a longer reach. I'm curious to try it.
@astronomical13Ай бұрын
Thank you thank you thank you. Instant like for not saying "spring has sprung".
@hikerbikeromarАй бұрын
😂
@trickystravelsАй бұрын
I’m looking to get the slr 7 4th gen in trek segafredo paint job. It comes with sram force so that’s the only issue I have as have never used it. Never used electronic shifting before either.