Thank you for this excellent summation of the jhanas.🙂🙏
@pchabanowichАй бұрын
The genius of The Buddha shines in how he was able to diagnose, determine the cause of, open the possibility to cease, and prescribe the medicine for suffering in so cogent a form. Then, he stands back and suggests we don't take his word for it. He must be unique in the world of the great spiritual teachers for this magnificent ability to reduce to essence the complexity involved in the problem of suffering. Thank you Mr. Shankman for these great lectures - I look forward to your series on the 8-fold Path.💐
@sadiedesimone7460Ай бұрын
Namaste
@martinratcliffe59872 ай бұрын
Great to see you sharing videos again.
@allenmorgan43093 ай бұрын
I was distressed about a lot of the controversies that people are having these days in our society and I was thinking about some things I disagreed with people were saying and then it occurred to me that there was some of that in me and I saw it so clearly I had to accept it and when I did I suddenly accepted everyone and I saw that the traits that are in every one else is in me on some level and when I saw that my sense of self expanded to include every one. I realized that I am in everything and everything is in me and that my true self is purely spiritual and that the whole of existence is reflected within me. I don't know what that is called but it is complete and total contentment. The experience was triggered by a complete and total acceptance of myself and everything else. It is an experience that has never left. Your video has helped me to understand what happened.
@NirvanicSunshine3 ай бұрын
I am thankful to have experience up to the 5th jhana and so have been able to review my experiences and see almost all of the enlightenment factors, but the one factor I've never been able to understand from reflecting on my experiences was dhamma-vicaya. I knew from my experience it was a list of progression based on maturity of the previous factor, but I couldn't see how investigation-of-things was represented in my experiences when the other factors were so plainly visible, especially in the context of jhana practice, which is inherently counter to investigating anything at all, since mental activities outside of resting the awareness on the perceptions the meditation object produces reduce samadhi. But your explanation is absolutely spot on. The mind becomes clearer and naturally discerns more deeply and intuitively on the things it checks out, mining unseen data from them. I just had never placed it that this aspect of progress was tied to the investigation factor... Thanks!
@martinratcliffe59872 ай бұрын
Well done 👍😊
@AjmeriKhatun-s9y3 ай бұрын
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@SamanaGunavanta4 ай бұрын
40 kammatana 1....Alo kasina .... Why a Pannadhikha Bodhisatta Sidharta has always completely with this objek.... Because before enter Parinibbana the Nibbana will suppurated by Alo Kasina, so this kasina is good for everyone every sentinent
@MettaDharma3 ай бұрын
No. The practice and the path unfold differently for different people. It is not one way for everyone. Kasina works for some people but for most people it is not a good practice and will not work. You can try it and see for yourself. The Buddha is recorded in the old Pali texts of having taught many different practices according to each person's temperament.
@thomasbarchen7 ай бұрын
Wonderful 😊
@NirvanicSunshine Жыл бұрын
Man, this was genuinely useful. A teacher who knows and sees and teaches with an open fist, holding nothing back.
@shelinahetherington46612 жыл бұрын
Thank you Richard, you have such a talent -teaching, explaining clearly and with such humility. Very grateful
@shelinahetherington46612 жыл бұрын
Such a helpful talk, thank you so much. You have an amazing ability to explain things in a way that is so tangible so accessible and relevant to life. 🙏🙏🙏
@golgipogo2 жыл бұрын
This chap is the real deal. I watch and read (too much), so I feel qualified to state that his way of presenting samadhi and Jhana is first rate, authentic. Does he still teach at Spirit Rock-concentration retreat. For example?
@MettaDharma2 жыл бұрын
Richard still teaches retreats, though he is not as active at Spirit Rock or IMS as he used to be. If you want to find out about his retreats you can get on his mailing list by sending an email to [email protected]
@SnowflakeTea2 жыл бұрын
Thank you for uploading this series. I would greatly appreciate if you could enable CC or transcript for this video as you do in the other 7 videos!
@MettaDharma2 жыл бұрын
We have turned on transcripts and hope it is working okay.
@mja47522 жыл бұрын
Please describe how it feels to enter 5 th jhana from personal experience
@MettaDharma2 жыл бұрын
In my last reply to you I said I was going to stop this back and forth. But in case you are genuinely asking and not just challenging me, I will answer. First I will answer what the formless attainments are not, then what they are. And also will say something about how to attain these states. I have heard people say they were walking around in the formless attainment of boundless space or consciousness. But there is no "walking around". These states are formless, and when you are in these states there is no experience of the body or normal sense inputs. There is only the experience of boundless space or consciousness (I'm not going to talk about nothingness or neither-perception-nor-non-perception because they are so subtle and don't easily lend themselves to verbal descriptions). There are various ways people get into these states - it is not just one way for everyone. For some people opening to the formless attainments from the fourth jhana happens naturally on its own. For others, you can direct your mind in one of two ways (the ability to move or direct the mind is very subtle at this point, but it is still there). You can direct the mind toward letting go of the grosser elements of the fourth jhana or you can direct your mind toward letting go into boundless space. The details of everything I've said is a larger topic and too much to get into here. And since what needs to be done is specific for each person, it's hard to give general advice. If you want to explore this in detail then I'm happy to talk with you (we'd have to talk offline). I'd have to understand the details of your meditation experience and then could offer specific advise. all the best, Richard
@mja47522 жыл бұрын
Man you clearly said you don t know if you experienced jhana … how can you have 50 years of practice ?
@MettaDharma2 жыл бұрын
You are mistaken. I never said I don't have experience with jhana. You misread or misheard wherever you got that. My friend, regardless of whatever I say, you seem committed to your view that I don't know what I'm talking about. The hundreds of people who have actually met me and I've worked with to get into jhana and to work through difficulties and challenges when navigating the jhanas, both on retreat and in daily life practice, would disagree with you. You don't seem genuinely interested in finding out anything from me, but, rather, just want to challenge me. I try to respond to comments, and I don't mean to be rude, but unless you want to have a genuine discussion, I am going to stop this pointless back and forth. wishing you all the best, Richard
@mja47522 жыл бұрын
Theravada is not Buddha’s teachings but the commentaries written by monks who had no practical experience of meditation . Incredible how many people like to teach but don t really know anything. Readings books is not enough to talk about meditation it s even suite dangerous
@MettaDharma2 жыл бұрын
I agree with you. The only thing I would add is that Theravada is not only Visuddhimagga/Commentaries. There are large parts of Theravada that do not look to the commentaries. And there are many who teach, not just from reading texts, but from experience. So it is a mix of both. The reason I wanted to explore what the texts say is that there is a lot of disagreement and controversy, and it can be useful for some people to get clear on what the Pali Suttas say, and what the Visuddhimagga and commentaries say, so you can better understand the range of teachings you may encounter. You can be an experienced meditator and also explore what is in the texts. Study and practice are not the same thing, and each person will make their own decision about whether or not to read texts and incorporate them into their practice. In the end, of course, it is the practice that matters, not what is written in any texts.
@mja47522 жыл бұрын
Seriously once again don t teach things if you don t understand them - not knowing you Jhana state nor the difference between vipassana jhana and samatha jhana is not beneficial for others .
@MettaDharma2 жыл бұрын
You are correct. No one should teach what they don't understand. That's fine if you disagree with my understanding and interpretation of the source texts, the Pali Suttas and the Visudhimagga. Attempting to clarify the varying understandings and disagreements of the texts is the whole point of these discussions, and there are many views and opinions. But if you think I don't have experiential knowledge, well, you simply don't know anything about my meditation practice nor what I know or don't know.
@Zorba.2 жыл бұрын
I just watched this earlier kzbin.info/www/bejne/Y32qfYaLe92Jhc0 video 2 in a retreat from 2013 on a similar topic and posted a call for help after watching 10 min and reading a comment about death. Then this came up in my phone and was like the answer to needing some understanding of what's been happening. Thank you so so much Richard for this video. This was my post from earlier today. @MettaDharma Wow. My mind just stopped in its tracks half way through reading your response about death. Not a ripple. I'm new to Buddhism. Prompted research after noticing my mind would suddenly stops when looking at an object, even trees moving. There is a sense of absorption like I've never had before. A new word I learnt, and deep silence running through all forms and a sense of deep intimacy. Like I'm not separate from what is being seen. And feels like no-one is looking. Just seeing looking effortlessly happening a lot lately. Like when the tv is on mute for ads lately the mind stops and there's absorption with eyes open. This is new. Last 3 months hence looking for an explanation which lead to Buddhism. Everything comes and goes and there's a sense of an invisible sameness running through everything. And there's a serenity and quiet beyond words. As if everything is bathed in this deep Stillness and the subtlest sense of sweetness, a whiff, a scent of a smile as looking happens. Before this began I had a major melt down last year where I felt like my personal will dried up. My capacity to move forward with my career evaporated overnight. And then Wailing into the living room" I'm nothing, I don't know anything." My mind turned to mush for 6 months or more. It felt like I was dying inside and at the some time I felt a closeness to some felt sense of Loving Presence "God" dunno, and it's as if the thinner and weaker thus sense of me became, the bigger and more wider I became inside. More spacious and quiet. After months of this something changed and I was on the floor sobbing in gratitude at the mention of anything or anyone holy. God, Buddha, Christ.. it was so uncontrollable. So much gratitude and I have no idea to who or what but something felt this deep reverance and gratitude to "God" . I had images of lying prostrate Infront of an Immense Space. Like a mammoth Buddha statue without the statue. Just the space where it would have been. . Then the spontaneous absorption started and wanting to be close to people who are deeply immersed in a spiritual path. I was in a weird hermit stage for a year when this was happening. Not wanting to be around anyone. Only went out for a coffee occasionally hiding in corners alone. Now looking for someone who knows what this is. . I can't return to the old me. It's impossible. My mushy brain is clear and yet I am acutely aware that I don't really know anything except my direct experience in the moment. It's been like this for months The mind seems to have lost its arrogance of thinking it knows stuff, and yet a functional thinking is happening when needed .it feels like a different mind is running now. More empty yet clear. Thoughts gurgle along sometimes but there just not engaged with. A new voice emerged in my head recently that says "not my thought not my feeling" when they arise and stick around for a few seconds. Then they dissolve. It's so effortless. Something has taken over the old me it seems, Life is different, calm, uncomplicated. There's just what's here. Right here. . And the moment takes care of everything. Remarkable shift in operating in the world. And there is such a serenity running through all forms. I am still moved to tears by world events, there's feeling and sensation in the moment and then like a wave it subsides in minutes. Then noticing of the next arising. Any help would be deeply received with heartfelt gratitude. Maryam 🙏
@MettaDharma2 жыл бұрын
Hi Maryam. I read your post about all you've been going through. You ended by saying any help would be appreciated. I'm happy to offer any help I can, but it is not clear to me what kind of help you are seeking. I see that you went through a long period that was challenging and confusing. But in the ending part your message you describe what sounds to me like being in a clear, balanced place. If you can clarify what you are looking for then I can respond.; Depending on what's going on you may not wish to discuss it in this public comments section on youtube, in which case we could talk privately. wishing you all the best, Richard
@MettaDharma Wow. My mind just stopped in its tracks half way through reading your response about death. Not a ripple. I'm new to Buddhism. Prompted research after noticing my mind would suddenly stops when looking at an object, even trees moving. There is a sense of absorption like I've never had before. A new word I learnt, and deep silence running through all forms and a sense of deep intimacy. Like I'm not separate from what is being seen. And feels like no-one is looking. Just seeing looking effortlessly happening a lot lately. Like when the tv is on mute for ads lately the mind stops and there's absorption with eyes open. This is new. Last 3 months hence looking for an explanation which lead to Buddhism. Everything comes and goes and there's a sense of an invisible sameness running through everything. And there's a serenity and quiet beyond words. As if everything is bathed in this deep Stillness and the subtlest sense of sweetness, a whiff, a scent of a smile as looking happens. Before this began I had a major melt down last year where I felt like my personal will dried up. My capacity to move forward with my career evaporated overnight. And then Wailing into the living room" I'm nothing, I don't know anything." My mind turned to mush for 6 months or more. It felt like I was dying inside and at the some time I felt a closeness to some felt sense of Loving Presence "God" dunno, and it's as if the thinner and weaker thus sense of me became, the bigger and more wider I became inside. More spacious and quiet. After months of this something changed and I was on the floor sobbing in gratitude at the mention of anything or anyone holy. God, Buddha, Christ.. it was so uncontrollable. So much gratitude and I have no idea to who or what but something felt this deep reverance and gratitude to "God" . I had images of lying prostrate Infront of an Immense Space. Like a mammoth Buddha statue without the statue. Just the space where it would have been. . Then the spontaneous absorption started and wanting to be close to people who are deeply immersed in a spiritual path. I was in a weird hermit stage for a year when this was happening. Not wanting to be around anyone. Only went out for a coffee occasionally hiding in corners alone. Now looking for someone who knows what this is. . I can't return to the old me. It's impossible. My mushy brain is clear and yet I am acutely aware that I don't really know anything except my direct experience in the moment. It's been like this for months The mind seems to have lost its arrogance of thinking it knows stuff, and yet a functional thinking is happening when needed .it feels like a different mind is running now. More empty yet clear. Thoughts gurgle along sometimes but there just not engaged with. A new voice emerged in my head recently that says "not my thought not my feeling" when they arise and stick around for a few seconds. Then they dissolve. It's so effortless. Something has taken over the old me it seems, Life is different, calm, uncomplicated. There's just what's here. Right here. . And the moment takes care of everything. Remarkable shift in operating in the world. And there is such a serenity running through all forms. I am still moved to tears by world events, there's feeling and sensation in the moment and then like a wave it subsides in minutes. Then noticing of the next arising. Any help would be deeply received with heartfelt gratitude. Maryam 🙏
@chuckbeattyo2 жыл бұрын
I've been rewatching Richard Shankman's talks over and over for years. Very beneficial to revisit them, which let's you see your own progress in understanding. Just priceless thankyou MettaDharma.
@drsr45602 жыл бұрын
24-28”: To sit still in meditation and be with our physical or mental pain (notwithstanding reasonable efforts to mitigate it) is a great training for learning how to co-exist with life’s discomforts and face it’s challenges. In a way, meditation strengthens the more general capacity to let go of the tendency to maladaptively avoid difficult circumstances and/or maladaptive cling to pleasantries. {Me: In fact, we are actually training ourselves to BOTH “Let it come,” AND THEN “Let it go.”}
@drsr45602 жыл бұрын
Ajahn Sumedho is cited … “Let Go” is at the core of the Dharma and much of one’s practice can be pared down to these two words. Also it’s a wonderful antidote to one’s OC tendencies
@drsr45602 жыл бұрын
12” - 15”-ish: There IS a self. Buddha & Suttras have been mischaracterized in translations. Anatta = no permanent soul; but there is not an argument from Buddha that there is an absence of the self, or “I”.
@drsr45602 жыл бұрын
In wrap-up in last few minutes, he encourages meditators to trust their inner wisdom regarding what works for them. Don’t be dismissive toward a path that seems to be effective simply b/c it may not exactly conform to one’s impression of what is the prescribed path.
@drsr45602 жыл бұрын
Many routes toward progress & everyone’s different. He has an admitted predilection toward samadhi, and it can actually facilitate insight (contrary to how other teachers may view it).
@mja47522 жыл бұрын
Attained 5th infinite space quite easily it unfolds naturally no need for filling your head with commentaries
@drsr45602 жыл бұрын
21”-22” There IS a self apparently (whereas there is not a permanent unchanging soul)
@drsr45602 жыл бұрын
57”-60”: Samadhi can actually help open the heart and lend itself to Brahmavihara practices
@drsr45602 жыл бұрын
53”-56” Samadhi states… foster equanimity and help “purify” the mind (loosens defilements and facilitates the factors of enlightenment)
@drsr45602 жыл бұрын
>=47”-48”: How to move through Samadhi states; doing nothing (just staying with the breathing) vs. actively cultivating more of it (it’s subtle and you gradually let go of the effort)
@drsr45602 жыл бұрын
Intermittently discusses “Inclusive” vs. “exclusive” samadhi; similarities and differences
@drsr45602 жыл бұрын
43”-47: Three qualities that generally characterize Jhanas: 1) undistractedness; 2) effortlessness (concentration feels automatic and self-sustaining-as though the Samadhi is “doing you,” rather than the converse; 3) a striking clarity of mind. Combined, these three aspects of Jhana prepare the mind to make penetrating insights (e.g., about causes and conditions of one’s suffering), and at both the microcosmic and macrocosmic scales
@drsr45602 жыл бұрын
The Fire Sermon: Mindfulness of the six sense-bases enables us to gain insight into how we are relating to our experience (sensorily, affectively, and cognitively), which can empower us to respond more wisely and less reactively. {Meshes well w/Cognitive-Behavioral Therapy too}
@chuckbeattyo2 жыл бұрын
Much appreciated for sharing.
@drsr45602 жыл бұрын
20”-23” Anatta; there IS a self but it’s a verb not a noun-it doesn’t last-and therefore should not be clung to
@drsr45602 жыл бұрын
40-45” False dichotomy: samadhi vs. insight. Inclusive kind of samadhi increases opportunities to observe anicca, and cultivating samadhi need not lead to the exclusive variety
@drsr45602 жыл бұрын
54”-57” Emphasizing samadhi will bear many fruits including insight (concentrated mind catalyzes insight; difficulties that arise in attaining / sustaining samadhi can lead to problem-solving & insights; & samadhi helps uproot unwholesome qualities or mental habits)
@drsr45602 жыл бұрын
45-55” Samadhi is both a support to (e.g., via equanimity) and a form of insight practice (via stillness, clarity, & enhanced focus)
@drsr45602 жыл бұрын
40”-41” Buddha endorsed the delightful states & experiences associated w/Jhanas
@drsr45602 жыл бұрын
28”-37” Inclusive samadhi: Mind is still, clear, undistracted; attention is open, connected to environment, & akin to Choiceless Awareness … able to observe the flux of phenomena, thus conducive to insight
@drsr45602 жыл бұрын
Exclusive vs. Inclusive Samadhi
@drsr45602 жыл бұрын
19”-23” Concentration is a skill that improves greatly w/practice over time
@drsr45602 жыл бұрын
16”-17” Everything starts w/establishing foundation of mindfulness
@drsr45602 жыл бұрын
9”-11” Liberation through non-clinging
@drsr45602 жыл бұрын
3”-4” Equanimity = key quality to cultivate (& insight into impermanence can foster it)
@drsr45602 жыл бұрын
1’15”: For Buddha, 2nd foundation of Mindfulness has Centrality (Vedana)
@MettaDharma2 жыл бұрын
Mindfulness of vedana is a method, a technique, to help turn the mind toward liberation through non-clinging. Vedana itself is helpful for some people, but not everyone turns to liberation through this doorway. For others it is through jhana. In fact, the pathway to liberation is not just one way, and is highly individual.
@drsr45602 жыл бұрын
@@MettaDharma Thanks very much for pointing this out. I actually created the comment as a way to index for myself some important points in the lesson. Upon replaying that segment, it seems that I must have misheard the reference: the gentleman who asked the question was actually referring to Goenka’s (I thought the discussion was still referring to the Suttas) emphasis on Vedana, which was affirmed by Shankman. Okay, thanks for clarifying that. Perhaps my mistake reveals an innate bias my un-Awakened, untrained mind has toward the “Pleasure Principle”! By the way, I love the MettaDharma KZbin channel, and Shankman’s teachings are just wonderful. Thanks for offering all of it (for free, no less!). There’s a sea of confusing information out there c/o the McMindfulness Movement, and I’m trying hard to avoid becoming disillusioned. I just discovered Shankman’s book “Art & Skill of Buddhist Meditation,” too, and am reading it very carefully. Excellent resource!
@drsr45602 жыл бұрын
1’03”-ish to 1’07”-ish: captures how to pursue concentration/insight balance question, pragmatically
@tomtillman2 жыл бұрын
Are you a stream enterer? thanks.
@MettaDharma2 жыл бұрын
Hi Tom. I make no claims. The definition of a stream enterer is the falling away of the first three of the ten fetters. The problem is that there is no consensus of what that actually entails, so there is widespread disagreement of what a stream enterer is. People claim to be stream enterers using all sorts of widely varying criteria. So I prefer to avoid all those labels and categories, and just keep it simple: when my mind falls into clinging I let go; when my heart falls into ill will I open the heart. Let go and keep the heart open. That is all.
@tomtillman2 жыл бұрын
Interesting history. Perhaps you could comment on the idea that a fully enlightened being is "Not born in any realm' after death. I cannot find anywhere that the Buddha says what happens to a Arahat after death, only what DOESN'T happen to him. Does he exist in any way, shape or form at all? Sounds like Nihilism. Thanks for the history.
@MettaDharma2 жыл бұрын
Hi Tom. That is correct. After death the arahat does not exist in any form. It is the end of the cycle of births and deaths, the end of coming into any form of being. So, yes, it is the end of you, leaving only the deathless. What is the nibbana, the deathless, is a whole other conversation. Richard
@tomtillman2 жыл бұрын
@@MettaDharma That is, again, what doesn't happen. What does happen? In what way does he exist? Does his stream of consciousness continue? Does his memory of experience continue? Does anything continue? Is anyone able to answer this question? Thanks.
@MettaDharma2 жыл бұрын
@@tomtillman You no longer exist. You simply dissolve out of existence. The individual stream of consciousness no longer exists. Memory no longer exists. Nothing continues. Yes, the question can be answered when you attain the deathless. This is hard to talk about because the deathless is not a 'thing' that can be attained. It is just a way of speaking. There is nothing there because it is the unmanifest. But that is not quite accurate because it is neither nothing nor something. The deathless is beyond verbal/conceptual categories. But when trying to talk about it we have to use words and concepts. An analogy is that of waves on the ocean. Each wave has its individual existence. When the wave settles out and goes back down, where can it be said to be? The wave is gone, but the underlying substrate, the ocean remains. The wave was always just the ocean, but it also had its individual existence. This analogy falls short because the ocean is something, whereas the deathless is not something. But it is not nothing either. I call it pure eternity itself, not because it lasts forever but because there is no time, and no space. So what is that? When you have attained the deathless then you will know. You do not exist as an individual to know what is happening. Only when you come back into existence, then you can stand on the edge and peer back into the deathless and know what happened. I know this all probably sounds strange, and it is hard to talk about. It's the best I know how to talk about it. And all of this is different that the highest levels within existence - what the Buddhists call 'samsara'. The highest levels within existence are experienced in various ways, as pure consciousness, pure love, pure awarness, etc. All of this brings up the question of whether you want to attain the deathless and end your individual existence. Traditional Buddhist teaching is that nibbana/nirvana, the deathless, is the highest goal. But that's a whole other question and we each have to make our own decision. Are we really aiming to end our individual existence?
@tomtillman2 жыл бұрын
@@MettaDharma Ok, thanks. I guess whatever it is, it is just beyond words, and definitions. Cheers.