I definitely work some.very smart guys over my 35 yr career, the smartest left and did something else...the ones that paid their dues and are sharp assets definitely need a salary not flat right, you want professionals, pay like you want professionals.

Great point to the video, but I had a hard time watching people “fake” working in the shop.

Because of Obamacare, it cost an employer 20-30K per annum to insure an employee with a family. Some one has got to get squeezed for that. Waste flows downhill.

These aren't the reasons people are leaving the auto tech industry. The real reason is the costs of running such a business. Pretty much every vehicle needs specific special tools for certain jobs. You can spend thousands and thousands on just these tools alone if you are servicing multiple brands. Then you also have to be equipped with auto diagnostics equipment, again these can be thousands each, and you very often need multiple diagnostic tools to cover most aspects of repair amongst various brands. The level of knowledge required is also getting greater, new systems and technologies is making auto repair work very tricky and often time consuming if you don't fully understand what you are looking for. That brings me to another cost, that of technical information that you have to pay for, such as auto data subscriptions or the snap on subscription service. You simply can't begin to fix some electronic faults you come across without knowing how certain modules or devices communicate with each other, or how they are wired or where that wiring/module is even to be found! I've seen cars come in to certain garages and they've just sat there for weeks, even months because they can't get to the bottom of the fault. And from a customers point of view, who wants to pay for someone to spend hours and hours without fixing the problem? Car manufacturers are making this problem even worse with daft design and construction practices that make working on these vehicles ridiculously tedious and time consuming, and also they're withholding needed information required by technicians in order to carry out the required repairs! Security access gateways are the in thing at the moment, basically forcing garages to pay for access to the vehicle's on board management systems in order to carry out a repair. It's no wonder people are leaving, you simply can't charge the customer enough to make all this type of hassle worthwhile!

The auto repair industry wanted there to be a mass exodus. If they didn't , they would have done something to fix it. Piss poor wages to pay for 100,000 plus in tools . And then there's all the arrogance , favoritism and f##kjobs .

40 year retired GM dealership technican unfortunatly everything is true on this video

Steer clear of automotive, get into diesel fleet maintenance. I make 100,000K+ yr., $1000 yr. tool allowance, work shoe allowance, 401K, pension, 4 weeks vacation yr. and all the overtime I want.

Even a car Factory does not know how to fix its cars sometimes!!! some faults are on the 10000 $ range to repair and still NOT sure if it will stay repaired; Know why??? mainly because of the LAW that MANDATES all kinds of EXTRA gadgets to meet this and that; they all say it, and VW said the other day that the emissions paraphernalia will cost more than the engine itself; But soon all this is about to explode right on the faces of them regulators, EPA and the other, as they are about to abandon the Great Green Hoax, ,lots of sign out there already.

10 million new people in the country are looking for work. They'll replace the leaving techs.

I've been a mechanic since the 80s, I'm finally making OK money but have no pension or retirement funds. The one major item that was missed was the tools that are needed that the employers do not provide and that can easily cost the tech over 100,000. Also the flat rate pay system only works for the employers. Not all place's have that pay plan. So if you can find a great shop that fully supports the tech then you are doing good. It also didn't help is that the employers know how to work the Tech's against each other so they can keep the pay down.

When the owner if the dear ship owns a house that values over a million, and a vacation home in Florida you have a very hard time feeling bad for them, to have to pay a decent wage when their employees can barely afford to feed there 2 kids let alone buy them braces!

Cut the crap. It's a crisis of low pay.

No benefit no insurance no retirement no good pay what s to get

Not just the pay shortage. Good luck surviving triple digit temperatures this week starting Father's Day June 2024.

automotive manufacturers exacerbate the problem. would anyone out there like to work for half your pay? automotive manufacturers control most labor times. so pay someone x and cut the time in half. need more pay ok time is going down . flat rate control by automotive manufacturers is a scam.

Warranty times are a joke. Recall times are worse!

There’s no money in it anymore. Who knows if there ever was?

Was a struggle 🎉but it work thanks

Im living in South Africa. Have been an Auto Technician since 1992. Flat rate also killed me. Worked more than 180 Hours a month. I used to earn $5 and 55 cents an Hour. Now earning $11. Customers dont have manners and respect. Never had time for myself. No Medical Aid. One Saturday per month off work. Now im a Contractor for my Previous Boss. I will not stay in this Industry for much longer.

Podcast called?

But nobody cares, work harder, right?......

Same here , once over the fence . You will never go back . Cold in the winter , hot in the summer , dirty greasy job with heavy lifting with cuts and burns . Eye hospital several times getting metal particles removed from eyes due to rusty exhausts . And it's the lowest paid trade . You would think with just about every person owning a vehicle that mechanics would be rich , but their the poorest .

Sad, But TRUE!

This is all by design by the auto industry to ruin vehicles for customers in order to force them to buy new ones. What they did not count on was all of the mechanics quitting. This is a grossly unsustainable business model. Of course the globalists want this to force everyone into self-contained slave cities.

I’m over here trying to get a competent tech to just do decent warranty work. I’m just doing more of it myself and doing it right.

It’s the flat rate system and the total lack of respect or appreciation for techs. A door rate of $200/hr but nets the tech only $25/hr doesn’t entice anyone, especially when older techs tell of a time when techs used to get 50% of the door rate.

Come backs, We always guilty even when proven not.

Please can you tell me , what's wrong. And what are they doing to my Ford Edge kzbin.info/www/bejne/pIinhIxoqa2JrLMfeature=shared

Maybe they fear that they’re going to get replaced by AI/ automation

Maybe they figure the auto repair service tech industry will be fully automated by AI, robots, and machines that can perform all the diagnostics and auto repair procedures faster, more efficient, and cheaper than what human auto repair technicians can do and shop owners charges in terms of labour costs and parts

I left after going to school and then 7 years of the industry. I would come back if they at least doubled the pay and increased benefits. Use your skills and do something else, choose a different trade, at least until things change.

The problem is return on investment it takes two to three years of school. From 5 to 10 thousand dollars to start. Work hard invest another 40,000 in tools and maybe you’ll make 40,000 a year. As soon as you really start making good money they will hire more guys because they feel if your making that much money they must be loosing out on some work you can’t get too. Then they will expect you to take your time to train them while your pay drops. There are some shops that take care of their good techs but they are far and few between.

I did it for 10 years when the pay was buy the hour,free tools ,free uniforms, health and life isurance at Sears .They started to cut pay and benefits I went to work for IBM for 25 years and retired at 62 !

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PAY for the difficulty If you are smart enough to fix em you are also smart enough not to Pay needs to double at least

I left long ago in tbe 90s. Shop owners do not want to pay good help. The thing that broke me was this. I got hired on at a shop that paid its techs by the hour not the book rate. The owner charged 75 bucks an hour flat rate back then. I worked 2 weeks at a lower rate to prove myself. Owner agreed. During that time he barely gave me any cars to fix. He hd his other guys do most of the work. After the 2 weeks he said I wasnt doing enough to earn my money. I said "youre not giving me any cars" Well we went back and forth until he agreed to a 50/50 split. He thought he would get off cheap because he wasnt handing me the cars. The week he had no choice because business was great. I earned more that week than his highest paid guy and he didnt like. The shop owner was a labor thief. Also that week I fixed a truck they had in the shop for a month. It was from a body shop and it wouldnt start. During break I walked over to it and found a wring harness not connected so I dug around it and found the other end it connected to. Car started right up. Told the shop owner and he got mad. Said The connecters werent supposed to connect to each other. We all know every connector is different for a reason but I embarrased him and he ended my employment because of that and making more money than he wanted to pay. I loaded up my tools and swore Id never turn another wrench in a shop again. I never went back. Fixing cars is a horrible job. Dont do it.

I open my own shop and i am very happy

People have the right to leave a bad job that doesn’t work for them, even if it is making them money. Money ain’t everything and if a bad job becoming a detriment to your health and life, have no shame to close shop and move onto learning new job skills and better jobs.

I worked as an Engineering Tech making good money and I left my job recently, I'm not interested in being a slave to the state which keeps taxing me to pay for the bums sitting at home so since I can't beat em, I'm joining them until this BS system crumbles.

Not working in my phone

It will only get worse as time goes

I been a auto tech and diesel tech for 42 year's, the system is destroyed, the Democrats are also to blame, they keep everyone under their control, they created the issues with technician, we as techs are held back in every way, I refuse to work for any company that offers me less than $48.00 per hour, dealer's charge any where from $185.00 per to $250.00 per hour. Mechanics need to be organized, creat a union together.

I used to be an automotive technician then I switched to diesel I watched how all businesses would take advantage of women minorities and people who just didn't understand You as a consumer have no idea the lowlifes that operate behind the shadows and will do things like sell you a premium brake job and then call the parts store and get the absolute cheapest parts they can throw everything on in 5 minutes because of book time send your card down the road and laugh all the way to the bank also you work yourself to death for just above minimum wage even our quality guys where I work now are starting to get irritated because they hire anybody I'm talking about people that used to operate ice cream machines but they pass the written test so they're in the door that kind of thing brings morale down right into the toilet You do not want to know what happens behind closed doors after the smiling is done

The owner of a dealership I worked at would park his Ferrari in the shop and we would have to walk past it all day to get to the service advisors. Felt like such a slap in the face.

For what you have to learn and Continue to have to learn it is about the wage and the full package of Benefits, Having to spend 2 dollars of your wage so if your making lets say $18.00 Dollars an hour your only getting $16.00 an hour Because you have to buy more Hand tools for all the different Makes and Models, And shops like to display ASE on there wall which half the time the Money comes right out of the mechanics Pocket, There are so head ache's in the Industry it would take hours to go through, and then there is Flat rate that is a Joke in it's self, I left the Automotive Field and never looked back and found another Job not related to the automotive and made $2.00 more an hour in a small a mount of time plus I do not have to spend money on tools anymore and So that was like a $4.00 Raise right there without the head ache's.

I left because i was sick of getting paid $30 an hour while the shop was billing $150 an hour. I still had to buy most of my tools and shop supplies. The dealership procided some of the bigger and more expensive tools but it was a shared system. Every day i felt i was being taken advantage of.

Thanks 2 Corp America

Managers making 300k and there is not just one. They have many at one time

Finally real news for our ears

Chrysler owes me 700k for all the free warranty work I have done, after over 20 years at the dealership. I tell as many peolpe I can NOT to be a mechanic