I have a number of South African friends in Panama. I understand for some countries Panama had more relaxed visa standards. After dealing with the corruption in some parts of Africa, Colombia is very manageable and Panama is a cake.

​@GringoCampe sino82 Enjoyed both your videos on comparisons between Colombia and Panama. I am an elderly South African and live alone (with dogs) in a rural part of Panama. I can attest to your comments in first video about the people, cops, etc. And about the snarky gringos 😂!! Not been to Colombia (am on a very tight budget, thanks to SA exchange rate) so good to see it vicariously through your eyes. Gracias.

Thanks for the input. I agree

And why Barranquilla if I may ask? My wife is from Barranquilla and she doesn't want to move there (we are in Spain, leaving next year, destination unknown right now, maybe Mexico).

@@ChrisJulyAdventures I understand. A friend just moved from Miami to Barranquilla and he loves it. My wife was born in Barranquilla, and even though it's safer these days, she still has memories of being an unsafe city. I've never been there, but we will go to visit her family next year and then we will see. Sounds like a great plan that you have, close to the airport, the beach, Cartagena, and Santa Marta, and not too expensive. Enjoy!

Well said. I agree. Because I sharpened my teeth in Africa I felt ready to jump in to central and south america. But it has been a struggle for 15 years.

A challenge and defo expensive.

Good Question. Would like to know about that also.

It is a great question. I actually did some research (informal) before deciding which part of Colombia I wanted to live. In this region I personally have not had any problems. I was told by older folks here in the area that Quindio in general never had a "vacuna" problem. (That is mafia like protection payments.) As I understand there were problems like this further north, closer to Medellin. I have heard that the gorilla groups in my area would hassle farm owners who they thought didn't pay the workers well. I think the idea being they would get the working class on their side.

I've lived and traveled all over Colombia through the years, currently living in Mexico.. if I were to move back it definitely would be the Eje Cafetero... One of the most beautiful places on Planet Earth 😊

my email is [email protected] Feel free to write me. I have started over again a few times in my life so I might be able to help you to avoid some mistakes. I like the people of Manizales, I don't have anything bad to say about it but you need to make sure the weather is good for you. Its colder and wetter than many parts of Colombia. As far as kids, I don't have any but my ex GF was a teacher and we talked about raising kids here a few times. Her belief as an educator in Panama was to have your kids socialize and go to school here but make sure to expand their horizons with studies outside of school as well. Depending on the school there will be some things the kids miss out on.

Very true, good luck with everything.

Other side of the coffee region. In south Quindio

Dengue really hurt my town this year, the hospital was turning away people every day. Are you a gringo? Do you have a USA passport? I am also trying to figure out a good strategy for export. If you are interested, I would like to go through the learning process with you. I am thinking small batch cacao and honey.

Thanks for the comment. I am glad you agree

Sí tengo un trabajador permanente que ayuda con todo el trabajo agrícola. Pero trabajo todas las tardes en la finca. Pero sobre todo hago trabajos de árboles, soldadura, carpintería, cercas, etc. Porque mi trabajador tiene más experiencia con el café. Thanks for watching.

Literally, you are correct.

Yes, I am in Genova.

Sorry for you but I am glad to hear they didn't take a bribe.

You can grow everything in Colombia. However, probably not the best idea in my region. It would best to find the climate zones that are a little drier. There are some places in the north of Huila district that I have seen Olives for sale. But very small quantities at this point.

Sorry, I liked my time in Panama. its a great country, but like all countries it has problems.

100% agree, I wouldn't recommend it. It was my ego that got the best of me. Thankfully, I always had a 50kg dog with me so people rarely would cause trouble. But I didn't sleep well for weeks after, thinking about retribution from possible gang connections they had.

I can't say a lot about Cali. I have been there a few times and I don't have anything negative to say about it. But I have heard there is more crime there than some other cities. Panama is a good place, just do your homework and live in a few places before you choose.

My email is in the page info. feel free to write me.

Siii a compartir, este video, asi se regresan a su país Colombia, especialmente las y los del mal vivir, no sólo colombianos, también los gringos que han sido protagonistas de tantas tragedias, esperemos que, Asi Sea...

gracias

Thanks for the sub!

I have leaf cutters as well. They aren't so bad in a mature forest but when we are trying to plant trees and grow a forest they are very destructive. The leaf cutters bite but nothing like these army ants. My feet are still swollen after having a few dozen bites yesterday.

@@GringoCampesino82 I have always avoided interrupting them, so I have never been bitten. I think the Army Ants have earned their name, so you should probably avoid when possible. Best of luck!

Hi, thanks for the response. Your english is very good. I don't mean to insult. I am willing to criticize what I love with the hope that it improves. Things may have changed after covid and with the current elections.

Don't tell anyone. I don't want people to ruin it :)

@@GringoCampesino82 I know the feeling. I used to love Medellin, but I will probably never live there again. I think the Digital Nomad Visa alone would have destroyed it.

Si Colombia es tan increíble como dices, porque hay tantos colombianos viviendo en Panamá, en cambio no vez Panameños viviendo en Colombia, algo no cuadra en lo que dices ...😆😆😆

Si Colombia es tan increíble porque hay tantos colombianos viviendo en Panamá tantos legales, como ilegales, que no se quieren regresar a Colombia, en cambio no ves Panameños viviendo en Colombia, algo no cuadra en lo que dices ...😆😆😆

​@@manuelguerra8038Soy colombiano y quiero vivir en panama me encanta ..Colombia es muy inseguro....Saludos

Colombia is amazing. Panama is very nice also. thanks for watching

Interesting. I have been in Panama for 25 years. Became a Panamanian citizen in 2013. I became very fluent in Spanish as a result of being married to someone who couldn't speak English. I made a lot of trips to Medellin which is my favorite city. In Panama I live in the country near the border with Costa Rica. Anyway I like both countries. When I go to Colombia I use my Panamanian passport. In Colombia people are somewhat friendlier and better educated. However Latín Americans in general are very friendly. I love the way the girls in Medellin soeak Spanish. Their accent is very sexy.

thanks for watching.

That's interesting. When I lived on the coast it was normal. I think because there is so much guadua here people don't walk around barefoot on the farms.

Hello Dr. Gracias. Espero todo esta bien.

Point taken. I was using weird as a synonym for different but I don't think its bad in any way. I have harvested most of my coffee, I am rehabbing my farm so I don't have top quality coffee yet, but if you want dry green coffee we can work something out. If you want it roasted there are lots of options also, but I don't have a roaster on the farm. If you want to visit the town of Genova, I am very close, I can set you up with some coffee tours/honey/cacoa.

I am sure your wife understands things on a deep level. But if you have any questions, I'll do my best to help.

There are lots of snow cones here. It is very common, especially in the warmer parts of Colombia. I think funnel cakes would sell well. But beware that it will likely be copied fast.

Sorry i am panamenian, and in my country the panamenian people is amazing and dont think nothing that you say. Only for you information panama is the nunber 1 country in latin América that dont move ti others countryes in masive form. And recived thousands of migrants to Colombia, Venezuela , peru, US , Asia and Europe.

Where do you get that from?

Hey there, I'm sorry you feel that way. Trust me that is not true. Many Panamanians are very cool people and we love to party. 🇵🇦🇵🇦🇵🇦 maybe you met the wrong Panamanians ha ha

Thanks, I have had a lot of rain and haven't been able to find a belt but I hope to work on it soon and see what I can get out of it.

Glad you like them!

Thanks, I agree. I am aware of those things, I sometimes use improper words because I just am used to using different phrases.

Nononooononoooo😅

It was and many ways is but from my perspective, I have seen a lot of differences between Panama and Colombia. Thanks for your comment. I appreciate your opinion, I like both countries.

​​@@GringoCampesino82estás muy equivocado Panamá non pertenece a la historia de Colombia en lo absoluto así como tampoco a la de Centroamérica porque nada tubo que ver en ninguna de ellas empezando por hay se separó sola creo su bandera su himno su día de separación es ajeno al resto del área cosa que no puede decir ninguno de los demás países que si tiene esa particularidad en sus fechas de independencias ni siquiera en quienes nos colonizaron primero fueron losindios y luego los españoles tanto así que se quedó arraigado en provincias centrales como azuero y Chiriquí fue colonizado por holandés suizos suecos encontrarás en Panamá gente blanca de pelo rojizo ojos azules en provincias centrales los santos las tablas en santiago igual personas blancas en Chiriquí igual personas con cabello rubio tbien descendientes de Italia como la abuela de mi esposa se equivocan que solo hay negros si hay por muchas razones la 🏗️ del canal trajo mucha mano de obra de muchas islas ucho afrodescendientes se quedaron aquí tanto asi en Colón. Pero es solo el 33 que tiene esa descendencia por sus venas el resto es una mezcla de todo .ucha diversidad en ese aspecto No nos parecos en nada a Colombia no siquiera en su música aunque el acordeón 🪗 lo heredamos de ellos pero supimos darle más ritmo y sabor a cada tecla ni siquiera se compara a nuestra música folklórica tradicional en nada somos más arraigados a nuestra cultura y tradiciones las respetamos en la comida tampoco en nada la comida esas de casa de décadas donde se hacía a

Jamás.

Desde cuando?

Se te olvidò decir que es el mejor en guerrillas,tràfico de drogas internacionalmente y en todos los paìses sobre todo en los aeropuertos cuando dices que vienes de Colombia quedan en alerta y te revisan hasta las entrañas que tristeza.

@@mariagonzales2833 Es que los suelos de Colombia son tan ricos que los mexicanos son los que sacan todo el producto para distribuirlo al mundo, ya que sus tierras no son tan fértiles. Y bueno, los dr0gad¡ctos / patrocinadores son los responsables adictos a Colombia, no solo con ese vicio sino también a sus hermosas mujeres.

@@mariagonzales2833 Ahole envidioso Panamanians rise up. Hasta la persona en el video dice que los panamaenos son ilusos.

​@@mariagonzales2833😂😂 dice lo mismo que tiene todos los países del mundo 🌎 nada exquisito ni diferente

tienes razon yo como Panameño amo a Colombia y no quisiera que por pequeñeces nos alejemos que viva Colombia y Panamá

What you said is correct but two things are true at the same time.

What are you talking about Willies? Panama is not part of Colombia, Panama is a sovereign country.

My dear, you should to learn more about history and geography! Please talk properly and be respectful!

What are you talking about?

@@maricharoargote6041 The truth

@@juandavidardila6653 says who? Your history books?

Thank you

@@GringoCampesino82 👍💯

O sea seattle se daño por culpa suya? jjajajaj Deberia ser ilegal porque si ellos han hecho una sociedad usted tendria que haber hecho la suya ... No le da pena opinar esas cosas? 🤣🤣 Los extranjeros que vienen aca a colombia en su mayorian aportan al crecimiento de esta patria en cambio los latinos que van alla llegan es a vivir de gorra, ud al sol de hoy tiene algo grande alla para que lo que estoy diciendo sea falso o solo una casita y punto? 😂😂 Mal, muy mal!

Thanks for watching and taking the time to respond.