I've spent the last several days merging duplicated people on my chart that were obvious errors which I became aware of. However, I've also found quite a few that don't appear to be errors at all but simply have a lot in common with the supposed duplicate which must have been enough to generate the error. One thing that concerns me is that merging individuals could create some serious issues for your tree if you do it wrong although I feel like I've cleaned up a lot of mistakes. I've started checking my tree before I add any new individuals to it, that's how this happens in the first place.
@Beaumont-Genealogy9 күн бұрын
Your experience is pretty common. Until about 100 years ago it was common to reuse names if an infant had died and families reused names of grandparents and parents so you could have a number of people with the same name. I treat Ancestry's duplications as hints more than anything else. In my tree less than 20% were actual duplicates.
@nairbvel10 күн бұрын
I have a massive family tree on Ancestry, covering a lot more than just immediate blood relatives. (I even discovered an entire -- big! -- "lost" branch of the family in the US Midwest that was lost due to some disagreement in my great-grandparents' generation.) Several cousins have begun their own trees, and since those often trigger hints on mine I check them out periodically -- and I keep finding errors that I had to work to keep out of my tree. The general practice for most other "tree keepers" in my extended family is, "Ancestry suggested it so it must be correct." :-( I also use other family tree sites, and there's one that has hidden links between trees that can introduce egregiously bad & obvious errors that cannot be corrected. Apparently there was an Italian actress in the 1930s whose stage name was the same as one of my aunts' actual name, and the actress suddenly began showing up in my tree without my having anything to do with it. Shortly after deleting her (which took some real work to accomplish), I received a very angry email from someone I'd never met claiming I had deleted a whole section of her family tree. Nothing I said could convince her that her aunt and mine were NOT the same person simply because "they have the same name so they're the same!" <sigh> So now I have a permanent "ghost" in my tree that doesn't belong there. Be glad Ancestry doesn't do this...!
@Beaumont-Genealogy9 күн бұрын
I understand your pain - one of my ancestors was called John Smith - you can only imagine what junk I keep seeing in other people's trees.
@sk13ppy15 күн бұрын
Excellent video, thanks! I would have liked to read more of the transcriptions but your scrolling was too fast. I've been hoping that one of the AI sites would do transcriptions of wills etc. Thanks for sharing your findings.
@Beaumont-Genealogy14 күн бұрын
Sorry about that - If you need any help let me know. In the video I just wanted people to know what is possible. You can certainly get ChatGPT to transcribe but remember it is rarely perfect but will normally get you off to a great start.
@KarenFahnestock17 күн бұрын
The price for subscription to ancestry is already high. These "pro" tools should be included in that price!
@Beaumont-Genealogy17 күн бұрын
I agree 100%
@rover79019 күн бұрын
Your video is very informative, thank you.
@Beaumont-Genealogy19 күн бұрын
Glad it was helpful!
@DanaLeeds18 күн бұрын
Hi! I have been teaching out how to use generative AI alongside genealogy, but had never tried Ancestry’s tool. You did an EXCELLENT job of presenting this information and the issues people need to watch out for! Thank you! ❤
@Beaumont-Genealogy18 күн бұрын
Thanks Dana - I really appreciate your feedback. Gen-AI is a fantastic tool but the way it is being deployed is not playing to its strengths in many instances.
@DanaLeeds18 күн бұрын
@@Beaumont-Genealogy, Agreed! Now that I'm looking at that feature, I am disappointed.
@kathleenkelley129929 күн бұрын
All great suggestions
@Beaumont-Genealogy29 күн бұрын
Thank You
@angelamullis7637Ай бұрын
Thank you. I was not familiar with those other tree checkers. I have a massive tree, and "Thrulines" is a pain and has caused numerous issues and duplications. I have 28,000 people, with 1485 in duplicates, according to Ancestry, and 3000 people that need sources. The sources for those people are most likely in-law cousins not blood related, where I don't hold the time value for in creating my tree. I have really loved the process of this research and discovery.
@Beaumont-Genealogy29 күн бұрын
Thanks for the comment - I would certainly recommend Family Tree Analyzer (free) to help you with checking your tree. Having no sources is not a big deal in my opinion if the people are not in your direct lines of research. Many of the duplications in Ancestry might be false and due to similar names or birth dates.
@gammerr82Ай бұрын
I agree protocol should be 100% free regardless. And here’s the pros and cons to it. The pro side is that it tells you where to to work on. The inside it can mess up your tree very easily.As guy sends 12 hrs a day on my adopted family none made past 5 generations. I made to 12 generational this point. Were to start everything from 1950 behind should make sense. Your 1st should Something like a birth certificate or maybe first communion or something kind of tieimg you that person. This way, you can have their name and date a birth and then you should ask them hey who were you born and now you can start doing your genealogy. As you progress, you’re going to have cences 1950 to point of death. As a person who does this all the time, make sure you get there first name their last name and the city and and where they were born. Those senses reports can then make sense so you can suck one backwards don’t skip out if there is a 1950s, then a 1940s and a 1930s and a 1920s you should be able to get all those without a problem and you should not go forward until you get those. Then you’re gonna wanna tie it off with a dust certificate or something from the journal sentinel saying something about the obituary and then go to their husband or wife and start that process again. And you’re gonna write down all their first names and last names to the point where you’re gonna feel comfortable with those names and I’ll keep that in mind, I would start with two binders, one for the father one for the mother, you’re just gonna keep going back like that and when you get to the second generation, you should have no errors at this point. When you will start getting into trouble is if you go right into senses or you’re using and copying and with somebody else’s information. It’s not gonna make a big difference if you use the ProTools or not it’s gonna do it’s just aggravate you and make you wanna quit so just one person at a time and just keep going through it.
@shailyleongarrido9363Ай бұрын
Buenos días necesito arbol geneologico de la familia Riumbau emigraron ha cuba vicente Riumbau Roche
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@shailyleongarrido9363Ай бұрын
Necesito buscar Antonio Barreras de Armas nacio 1843 en islas canariias su papá Manuel Barreras y su mamá Francisca de Armas (de Armas o Armas emigraron ha Cuba
@Beaumont-GenealogyАй бұрын
Desafortunadamente, no puedo ayudar con investigaciones específicas, pero aquí hay algunos pasos simples: Buscar FamilySearch: Busca registros de Canarias en su catálogo. Listas de Pasajeros: Consulta listas de pasajeros y registros de emigración de Canarias a Cuba. El Archivo Nacional de España (Archivo General de la Administración) en Alcalá de Henares puede tener registros relevantes. Contactar con Archivos Locales: Contactar con archivos municipales y diocesanos de Canarias. (traducido automáticamente)
@shailyleongarrido9363Ай бұрын
El nació 1843
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@shailyleongarrido9363Ай бұрын
Como puedo saber donde nació mi bisabuelo en islas canarias
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@kathleenkelley1299Ай бұрын
Thanks for the great overview. I am just digging into Enhanced Shared Matches but am Definitely going to use your ThruLines suggestion to confirm.
@Beaumont-GenealogyАй бұрын
Thanks, let me know how you do. Generally speaking, I think ThruLines gets a bad rap because there are so many bad trees in Ancestry.
@mesagirl224Ай бұрын
I would like to see a step by step how to use Family Tree Analyzer and Chatgpt. Thank you for your videos they are interesting . I have learne d so much. Thank you.
@Beaumont-GenealogyАй бұрын
Great suggestion! Anything specific you would like to use ChatGPT for?
@glenjones6980Ай бұрын
For the average user it's a once in a blue moon thing as far as I can see. The enhanced shared matches is handy for pinpointing matches who are closely related to each other (usernames don't always make it obvious). Once you know x is a sibling of y and they are half sibs to z there is nothing much more to learn about them . If they get just 1% of their 25 million dna database members to pay each month they will earn $2.5 million per month. It's not like they have done much to earn it either, thy are simply selling us the info they gathered from the test kits we paid for. They've been banging on for months about free 'features' to encourage collaboration but Pro Tools does the exact opposite and makes them a hefty profit into the bargain.
@JOOLZBRUTNELLАй бұрын
You can get most of the info already on ancestry - you just have to know how to use it . This Pro Tools is Ancestry for Dummies :)
@ramjet4025Ай бұрын
Its NOT worth, its the sam info in a different format. Do NOT Subscribe to Ancestry.
@carokat1111Ай бұрын
If you subscribe to Ancestry you get access to a whole range of database records and shared matches which don't exist elsewhere. I am still undecided, however, about the Pro Tools. I am a professional genealogist and Ancestry is the best provider for me.
@Beaumont-GenealogyАй бұрын
Every decision to subscribe to any service involves a cost-benefit analysis. Certainly, Ancestry has records that are simply not available elsewhere, and many (most) genealogists simply have to access Ancestry's catalog. In my opinion, Pro Tools should be included in the subscription cost. It is certainly not worth the cost if you pay monthly.
@carokat1111Ай бұрын
@@Beaumont-Genealogy Totally agree
@jtbowler572 ай бұрын
Well done John. One question - would ChatGPT be able to price the pantry items from the 50's/60's and compare to the current shopping list items?
@Beaumont-GenealogyАй бұрын
Hi Jim - thanks, absolutely. There are two ways - because every grocery store has different prices you could ask ChatGPT to give you an estimated cost of each item, probably a little hit or miss. It more accurate way would be to download a pricelist and ask ChatGPT to read the pricelist and apply the pricing to the items in the pantry.
@BlueBird-vi8vo2 ай бұрын
Thank you from Texas. Exactly the info for which I was looking. Waiting for the day when Ancestry separates DNA matches by grandparents. Would be so helpful for those with endogamy and unknown ancestors.
@margaretford1011Ай бұрын
The “matches of matches” in the “pro tools”could potentially be helpful for that in that you could generate two groups that are related to you but not to each other.
@BlueBird-vi8voАй бұрын
@@margaretford1011 Yes, thank you, I just got Pro Tools today, but haven't had a chance to try it out. To complicate things, my ancestor was an illegitimate orphan. Headache deluxe trying to figure from whom he came!
@Beaumont-GenealogyАй бұрын
Yes, the addition of the Matches of Matches is great, but I still think these are "normal" upgrades to the software that should be included in the subscription.
@margaretford1011Ай бұрын
@@Beaumont-Genealogy Oh, I fully agree. The service is already way too expensive. And it is still missing a real chromosome browser.
@nanfrostsfashionfocusstyle62502 ай бұрын
I agree with you. They shouldn't be charging this. They aren't ProTools. They are for NON-pros. As a non-pro, I can attest to this.
@Beaumont-Genealogy2 ай бұрын
Thanks for watching - yes it really is a rip-off when most of the functionality is available for free elsewhere.
@gammerr82Ай бұрын
@@Beaumont-Genealogy the biggest problem I see with ProTools is that it gives you a reading number. And it may not even be correct either. But if you take your time and write down, everybody’s name on a shepherd shit of paper and goes through those senses as they grow up, it should all fall in line with
@catherinedaneliak73153 ай бұрын
Thanks for the straightforward, step-by-step video. Great tips and suggestions!
@Beaumont-Genealogy3 ай бұрын
Thank You - I'm glad you found it useful
@RobertBrownATX4 ай бұрын
Great video. Regarding duplicates, Ancestry created most of them and now they want to charge more to take them out. That’s aggravating at best! You often must add a duplicate to get ThruLines to work. ThruLines shows the person is not in your tree when they really are. So, you add the person again to get down another level on your ThruLine and then go to merge the people. If you forget, then your duplication persists until you find it through some means. You sometimes you get dups when you merge in another users suggested tree content. Ancestry should be identifying such dups when they are entered. Right then and there. No wanting to charge you later to get them out.
@Beaumont-Genealogy4 ай бұрын
Thanks. The new maps and fan functionality were pretty interesting, but the duplicate and error checking are very poor (and very expensive - you could buy most personal computer genealogy software for less)
@sandrawright32344 ай бұрын
I have a brick wall prior to 1841 census. He was deported to Tasmania in 1829. No record of his death or anything after ticket of leave. He married in Penicuik Showing he was a soldier in Dumfries-shire Militia. No parents or birth place. On his convict record it shows him born Dumfries and 45 years old. Can find no birth for that name in Dumfries. He was also a master shoemaker. as all his sons were. This has been a block for 20 years. Can you give me any idea if it is possible to break down this wall
@Beaumont-Genealogy4 ай бұрын
I am sure you have explored many avenues, but as you saw in the video, many of the people I researched had no baptism or marriage records. Did he have siblings or children that you can focus on? Do you have any other records confirming Dumfries? Single sources are problematic. Why would he marry someone from Penicuik, a long way from Dumfries? So, the two steps I would suggest are looking at the wider family and questioning everything you think you know. Genealogy is a maze, and sometimes, when you hit a wall, you must retrace your steps a little.
@sandrawright32344 ай бұрын
Because he was stationed in penicuik it doesn't give a clue to his birth or parentage. Marriage only gave names and that he was a private in militia. and was deported before 1st census. I can't think of another avenue.
@Beaumont-Genealogy4 ай бұрын
Beyond siblings and children, have you investigated anyone else who was deported or charged at the same time as he was? People from the same area often tended to stick together when emigrating. I once traced a family member in World War One by finding people who signed up for his regiment at the same time.
@kathleenkelley12995 ай бұрын
Great examples of FAN research - nice case study
@Disblair5 ай бұрын
Nice clear & concise advice. I thought by your accent you were UK based but it would seem not 😢😢
@Beaumont-Genealogy5 ай бұрын
Thanks - Expat Brit living in Florida. Mentally I am UK based a lot of the time.
@GlobalGrowthMinistries5 ай бұрын
May I ask what software you used to create the Beaumont Charles William Story video? I think that is a great way to enrich profiles in your tree.
@LonokeCountyResearch5015 ай бұрын
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@Beaumont-Genealogy5 ай бұрын
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@LonokeCountyResearch5015 ай бұрын
Enjoyed the presentation 🫡‼️
@kathleenkelley12995 ай бұрын
Nicely done-thanks
@Beaumont-Genealogy5 ай бұрын
Thanks for the comment.
@sylviabargas33405 ай бұрын
You should update this, because Ancestry announced (at RootsRech) that Protools will soon include something else: info on how our shared matches are related to each other. For many people, that makes Protools worth the price. It should enable us to figure out who some of our "mystery" matches are. That includes the ones that don't have trees, and/or those that only provide their initials, rather than a full name.
@Beaumont-Genealogy5 ай бұрын
Absolutely, as soon as they release something, I will do another comparison video. I will include the MyHeritage Tool Set as well as they have improved their functionality. It would be interesting to see what Ancestry means exactly by Shared Match relationship because you can already do this to some extent via common ancestors, filters and ThruLines. As for people who choose to stay anonymous or don't post trees I am not sure how they will do this, so I am very interested to see.
@JohnnyBlaze51005 ай бұрын
Very good presentation.
@Beaumont-Genealogy5 ай бұрын
Thank you!
@shammylevva5 ай бұрын
Very interesting. What was the error that Ancestry found that Family Tree Analyzer didn’t? If I know what the error it found was I can add that logic to the new version 10 for Family Tree Analyzer. Btw it’s a deliberate design decision not to edit someone’s tree in FTAnalyzer. That is because by making the user the sole arbiter of whether something should be edited or not they retain complete control over how the data appears in their tree and never need to worry about FTAnalyzer changing something they want to keep.
@altopower5 ай бұрын
Thank you for this - very helpful. I use FTM instead of RootsMagic, but it also has analytics that I use regularly already.
@Beaumont-Genealogy5 ай бұрын
You're welcome - I am waiting for the new version of FTM to come out and then I think I will add that as a comparison.
@kathleenkelley12996 ай бұрын
Thanks for the comparison. Will be interesting to see if any additions/improvements to ProTools are announced at RootsTech
@Beaumont-Genealogy6 ай бұрын
They have no choice but to continue to improve PRO TOOLS as they are very basic at the moment. I am surprised that they have not simply bought a current tree analysis tool and integrated it with their product rather than trying to reinvent the wheel themselves.
@sandyr17896 ай бұрын
Thank you! I am getting fed up with Ancestry and their continual messing up of the website. Since launching their new "pro tools" the website has been very unstable and unreliable.
@Kit_Bear6 ай бұрын
It needs to be brought back, perhaps then people would be more careful before choosing to borrow more than they can afford.
@Beaumont-Genealogy6 ай бұрын
For sure many people need to show more responsibility for their debts and it could be the case that it is too easy to walk away from debts. However, imprisioning someone until they pay doesn't seem like an optimum way to clear debts either.
@Kit_Bear6 ай бұрын
@@Beaumont-Genealogy No, not the optimum way but it certainly acts as a deterrent for getting into debt in the first place. Samuel Pickwick did it on Principal, a protest as you will. Sam Weller did it out of loyalty to Pickwick. Now Mr Jingle/Captain Fitzmarshall was a deserving conman character Whom did deserve it and many of the time did deserve it. While I disagree with many aspects I also support many too, a balance if you will consider the effect of fear of punishment for getting into debt to begin with. I don't agree with the way it operated so a reform would be in order but I believe a reintroduction could be beneficial to reducing the dependency of those who are on a subsistence income. Debt management lies solely at the door of the debtor. Do they really need that latest Iphone or 75in Qled TV?
@RobertRobinson-dy3rj6 ай бұрын
Debtors prison is a prostitute 😮$
@rosshern39627 ай бұрын
How do know what people use or have forgotten in Ancestry
@Beaumont-Genealogy7 ай бұрын
I run a genealogy workshop and this video is based on what the attendees have told me regarding their use of Ancestry. Many (but not all) did not know of these features. Hope that helps
@grantfahlman18157 ай бұрын
Your timing on the release of this video is quite fortunate. I say that because Ancestry has recently announced the release of ProTools (or something similar) which will be used to do some of the things that can be done with this free software. Of course Ancestry wants to rake in more $$$ from existing customers (by charging $10.00/month) and add to it's massive profits! Having another option beyond the money-grab from Ancestry is definitely a good thing. Thanks so much!
@rotironwerks8 ай бұрын
Great video. I have noticed that in my ThruLines hints sometimes the green dotted line boxes are already in my tree ( and sourced ) and should be colored white in my ThruLines hint. That provokes me to click the add button to turn the ThruLines green box to white. Do you see any problem doing that ?
@Beaumont-Genealogy8 ай бұрын
That happens a lot and often it is an indicator that there are differences between the two people which need to be addressed. You do have to be careful not to add the same person twice which could happen. If there are minor differences and you (or your match) can correct them so that both people are identical the give ThruLines time to catch up. It could be something as simple a date written in a different way. So look carefully
@rover7908 ай бұрын
I have heard about Family Tree Analiser on another channel, but your description on its uses is great. Thank you. I am always interested in tbe videos you put out because you explain things clearly
@Beaumont-Genealogy8 ай бұрын
You are so welcome! Thanks for watching
@heatherm46508 ай бұрын
Amazing - thank you for sharing. I'm going to try Family Tree Analyzer and would definitely appreciate more videos.
@antoniorangel82778 ай бұрын
How many DNA matches would be enough to consider that a branch of a thruline is correct or can be validated? For instance, in your case from the video, your potential grand uncle has 3x DNA matches descending from his branch ... Would those 3x DNA matches be enough to make you believe that the green/grand uncle branch is another child of your great-grand parents? Because I imagine that a branch with only 1x DNA match is probably too weak to be validated as compared with a branch that has 10x DNA matches, which possibly would have too many matches to deny any relationship?
@Beaumont-Genealogy8 ай бұрын
Great question - a DNA match is proof of a relationship but does not define the type of relationship that has to be done via research. So if all of 10 matched DNA are showing the same type of relationship (say 3rd cousin) then that is something you can research further but what if all 10 matches had copied each other trees (perfectly possible in Ancestry) and added in an incorrect named relative? You may think that this is a new person in your tree when in fact it is the same person you have but they have the wrong name. Does that make sense? So yes the more matches the merrier but I would still would want to confirm with my own traditional research.
@rotironwerks8 ай бұрын
If I understand your question, the number of matches is directly proportional to the number of testers as long as your records and sources match. Also you should consider each match relation to the other matches, ( not just you ).
@tausa758 ай бұрын
Subscribed. I’m so pleased to have found this video and your channel today.
@enguwu9 ай бұрын
-- #1 - Your Results Don't Meet the Defination of Ethnicity. #2 - Your Ancestral Heritage Does Not Match Your DNA. #3 - Your DNA and Ancestral Heritage Cover Different Time Periods. #4 - Your DNA includes migration and immigration and invasions. #5 - Your DNA Does Not Favor Your Parental Lines. #6 - Most of Your Ancestors DNA is not passed to you. #7 - The very small percentages are probably just noise. #8 - The Reference Regions are Approximate. #9 - The DNA Ethnicity Ranges are Approximate. #10 - Your Results May [!Will!] Change Over Time. --
@Beaumont-Genealogy8 ай бұрын
Thanks
@theBuzzingMancs9 ай бұрын
This is so useful for someone like myself - a real amateur trying to research my family history. Thank you
@Beaumont-Genealogy9 ай бұрын
Glad it was helpful!
@davidirwin15499 ай бұрын
Really excellent video and one of the few that attempts to explain people's DNA results on all these big box autosomal DNA testing companies. Thanks for the video - well done !! Just want to point out that Ancestry tells their test takers that your results are what your ancestry looks like "hundreds of years ago". Problem is do they mean 200 years ago (1823) ? and yet they give everyone their Viking results - everyone with NW European ancestry seems to get about 7% Sweden and Denmark (trust me - I've looked at hundreds of these results) which would be well over 1,000 years ago and yet they do not give 1,000 year ago results for anything else but Viking. Kind of odd and they do not explain this.