Fascinating video. Thoroughly enjoyed it. Thank you.
@Beaumont-Genealogy18 сағат бұрын
Thanks for watching
@SunshineSugar14 күн бұрын
Very clear and informative . Thank you.
@Beaumont-Genealogy3 күн бұрын
Glad it was helpful!
@michaelmoore24875 күн бұрын
A very thoughtful and very helpful video. Thank you for taking the time to make this video.
@Beaumont-Genealogy3 күн бұрын
I am glad you found it helpful!
@MrDannyDetail5 күн бұрын
Sorry to be that nitpicker, but at 1:29 and 2:16 you say 'true lines' instead of 'Thrulines', and as this is a common mispronunciation of Thrulines, and often leads to people believing that it is actually called 'Trulines' and that all Thrulines are thus meant to be true, it's worth pointing it out..
@Beaumont-Genealogy5 күн бұрын
I was hoping that if I said True Lines Ancestry would pay me a commission, it never happened so your point is well taken.
@totopcat12 күн бұрын
Very interesting run through. Will check out more of your contributions. Slower mouse movement always helpful.
@Beaumont-Genealogy12 күн бұрын
Thanks - I will try to slow down mouse. I try to do these videos live rather than scripted
@vk3anl13 күн бұрын
Thanks John - helpful consolidation of things that aren't so obvious. I especially appreciate the tips on interpreting the numeric codes. Regarding the deferred census date, I assume the enumerator would have given instructions upon delivery and collection, that it was June, not April. Your thoughts: how many might have followed the printed instructions anyway, recalling where they were in April?
@Beaumont-Genealogy13 күн бұрын
That's a great question. It is likely that some people used the April date so it’s worth double checking. Thanks for the reply
@stevenickolls801613 күн бұрын
Thank you for sharing. It may hold the reason I cannot find a relative born in 1869.
@Beaumont-Genealogy13 күн бұрын
It could be - it is still early days as far as civil registration is concerned
@cliverobinson533214 күн бұрын
Fascinating and thanks for all of the information
@Beaumont-Genealogy14 күн бұрын
Glad you enjoyed it
@janicelawson751816 күн бұрын
The 1931 census was destroyed and no 1941 census but there was the 1939 ID card info which is very useful.
@Beaumont-Genealogy15 күн бұрын
Yes the 1939 Register is very useful in that it has exact birthdates. With the onset of WW2 the UK needed to know citizen details for rationing and mobilization (and perhaps arrest if foreigners)
@lindabennett65977 күн бұрын
Also for the occupation of everybody, I know understand why my father was never accepted for the military inspite of trying to enlist in various nearby towns and cities. He was too highly qualified to be allowed to service on the front line.
@Beaumont-Genealogy6 күн бұрын
@@lindabennett6597 - yes, there were many reserved occupations.
@keithalexander338616 күн бұрын
Very informative. Many thanks
@Beaumont-Genealogy16 күн бұрын
Glad it was helpful!
@catherinesommer364817 күн бұрын
Thank you - very useful.
@Beaumont-Genealogy17 күн бұрын
You're welcome!
@robinanoble466417 күн бұрын
Brilliant information, Huge thanks.
@Beaumont-Genealogy17 күн бұрын
Glad it was helpful!
@JaniceMartin-fd8mr17 күн бұрын
Totally agree. I just got it to try it but will be cancelling before next month exp date. I am comfortable enough with basic matches & maps to not make this worth $10 month. The 7 generation fan chart is nice but not worth extra $.
@Beaumont-Genealogy17 күн бұрын
Yes and the duplicates and errors can be found for free with Family Tree Analyzer
@Zaf201017 күн бұрын
Thank you, very useful
@Beaumont-Genealogy17 күн бұрын
Glad it was helpful!
@nickiramsay242117 күн бұрын
Thanks, that was really helpful, I’ve just started going through my family entries on Ancestry. I have had to correct so many transcription errors already but I suppose it’s easier to see what a place name or name is supposed to be if you already have background knowledge.
@Beaumont-Genealogy17 күн бұрын
Glad it was helpful! - I will be releasing the 1911 census review in the next few days
@newfishbourneops17 күн бұрын
Thank you for an excellent video - loads of tips, information and guidance all delivered in an engaging way! I think that this video should required viewing for all family historians
@Beaumont-Genealogy17 күн бұрын
Thanks for the positive review - I am glad you enjoyed it
@richardcoomber92519 күн бұрын
Thank you. That’s very helpful. I was wondering if there is any mention of men with disabilities or shell shock after the war. I’ve tried looking up a few but so far nothing come up to suggest it was affecting their lives
@Beaumont-Genealogy19 күн бұрын
If you try typing "disabled" or "veteran" into occupation you will find some disabled war veterans but there is typically nowhere to include the awful injuries both physical and emotional that many of these men have
@TheJourneyman5819 күн бұрын
When I looked for the 1921 census I could not find it some searches I made said there was no 1921 census because of the aftermath of WW1. thanks for this information.
@Beaumont-Genealogy18 күн бұрын
You're welcome, yes there can be a lot of disinformation about. It is the 1941 census that is missing due to WW2
@6brman22419 күн бұрын
Did respondents have to declare their ethnicity?
@Beaumont-Genealogy19 күн бұрын
they had to declare their place of birth but not ethnicity
@bridiesmith511020 күн бұрын
My grandmother not on there as the address that she may have lived in, has no census listed.
@Beaumont-Genealogy20 күн бұрын
Perhaps she could have been at a friend or family's house. I am not sure what they did with schedules for empty houses
@bridiesmith511020 күн бұрын
@ I tried every which way to find her, but with no success.. the age on her marriage certificate was given as being two years younger than she was. She had two children one born in 1919, he’s not showing either. So annoying.
@Beaumont-Genealogy19 күн бұрын
Yes, that can be so frustrating. There are a lot of mistakes on the census - are you using Ancestry or FindMyPast?
@bridiesmith511019 күн бұрын
@ I have used both.
@Beaumont-Genealogy18 күн бұрын
Yes, it can be frustrating - try to imagine all the different ways her name could be mis transcribed and look at her FAN network (friends, associates and neighbors). I found one of my grandmothers (as a child) in London living at friend of her father's house while her father was at sea. The family had no association with London, and we have no idea why she was there and not with her mother in Yorkshire.
@bridiesmith511020 күн бұрын
The dates now make sense as many of the entries focusing on occupations and employers named but stated unemployed.
@Beaumont-Genealogy19 күн бұрын
There was a lot of industrial action at the time
@terryloveuk20 күн бұрын
Thank you for this video. I've been a casual family tree "researcher" for some years, (about 2008 when my mother was still alive - I'm 71 now), building my tree only from what's on Ancestry. I'm not really interested in going way back (so with the 1841 census I guess back to 1800). I've been waiting for the 1921 census for some time, thanks to this video I understand why it's taken so long. It's a shame about the 1931 census, the 1941 having no census is understandable but I know some of that period on my mothers side (born 1927) from stories she'd tell us. My fathers side is less clear for he died in 1972 when I was 19, he was a merchant seaman and not home 6 weeks out of 8 so far less family stories. In 1931 he would have been in his apprenticeship as a shipwright, I do know some of the war years stuff from the ships he served on from his ships papers and some published articles of one of his ships. I think now I consider my family tree complete, or as complete as it is going to be and I need it for my satisfaction, but I continue to check Ancestry for hints, it's interesting to see connections to other trees.
@Beaumont-Genealogy20 күн бұрын
Have you looked at the 1939 England schedule for father? Having said that due to privacy laws some records that are less than 100 years old are not accessible - good luck.
@terryloveuk20 күн бұрын
@@Beaumont-Genealogy From his seamans books I know he was on a ship (not got to hand right now) and was most likely at sea. In 1942 he was aboard the ship MV Llangibby Castle (commandeered as a troop carrier) when it spent time bobbing about in the Bay of Biscay dodging German planes and uboats after losing it's rudder to a torpedo. Made it home under it's own steam steering by the propellers (with the troops still on board). He was still on the Llangibby for the D-Day landings. My parents married in 1950 in Hartlepool (the ship visited for repairs) before they moved to Southampton where my father sailed from.
@Beaumont-Genealogy19 күн бұрын
Sounds like he was very lucky to come through unscathed
@terryloveuk19 күн бұрын
@@Beaumont-Genealogy There were a lot of lucky (and unlucky) people throughout the conflict
@nikkijones497821 күн бұрын
Really helpful. Been using the 1921 for ages but didnt know some of these things. Thanks!
@Beaumont-Genealogy19 күн бұрын
Glad it was helpful!
@ab4mb21 күн бұрын
Thank you so much! Very interesting and helpful information and I actually learnt a lot! I have subscribed!!
@Beaumont-Genealogy19 күн бұрын
Awesome, thank you!
@Templeborough21 күн бұрын
I did not understand the reference to the 1926 General Strike at all. How did that impact the 1921 census even if it was delayed by 2 months?
@Beaumont-Genealogy21 күн бұрын
Oh I just meant that period of the 1920s was rife with industrial action - sorry for the confusion
@Templeborough19 күн бұрын
@@Beaumont-Genealogy No worries. Thanks for the info and the tip-off about the absence of 1931 and 1941 censuses.
@MarkJT100021 күн бұрын
From my experience there have been far more transcription errors in the 1921 census than in any other census. It seems that many of those who did it had no knowledge of common English names, towns or occupations.
@Beaumont-Genealogy21 күн бұрын
Yes it certainly seems that way - it may have been the methodology used by FindMyPast who was responsible for the transcription.
@Cannyviking535717 күн бұрын
I always look at the original as even on previous census transcriptions are also as bad.
@lindsayheyes92521 күн бұрын
Nice job, thank you. The bit about private schedules is useful. I found an entry where the confidentiality of a victim of serious crime was accidentally compromised by the Enumerator, so their training was not all that it could have been. I've have not been able to find the perpetrator that the victim feared, so I guess he had assumed a new name after release from prison.
@Beaumont-Genealogy21 күн бұрын
A very interesting story - the schedules were supposed to be confidential for 100 years, so it sounds like someone dropped the ball. There are a lot of transcription errors in this census so it may be the perpetrator has been incorrectly transcribed
@fatosshubert727222 күн бұрын
Very interesting information. Thank you so much.❤❤
@Beaumont-Genealogy22 күн бұрын
Glad it was helpful!
@Fearnstein22 күн бұрын
Very good, I learnt a lot
@Beaumont-Genealogy22 күн бұрын
Thank You
@MsBeadee22 күн бұрын
Very I interesting information - thank you.
@Beaumont-Genealogy22 күн бұрын
Thanks for view and leaving a comment
@sheilaleslie132322 күн бұрын
Thank you. Very helpful and well explained 😊
@Beaumont-Genealogy22 күн бұрын
Thank you so much
@stephenarbon222722 күн бұрын
What was meant to happen with those British Nationals who were at sea; sailors/fisherman, passengers, on British ships or foreign registered.
@Beaumont-Genealogy22 күн бұрын
Great Question - I really need to make a second video: Ships in Territorial Waters: If a ship was within the territorial waters of England or Wales on the night of the census (June 19, 1921), its crew and passengers were included in the census. Ships in International Waters: Ships beyond territorial waters were not normally directly included in the census. Mariners who had a home address in England or Wales were often recorded with their families, noted as "at sea" or "away."
@stephenboyd493419 күн бұрын
I guess these census actions are no different to the Dooms day book one. All about control & gathering information. Best thing is too egnore these forms when possible
@Beaumont-Genealogy19 күн бұрын
I am just about to do the 1911 census and there was a mass "ignore the census" by suffragettes at the time
@V.C.S6919 күн бұрын
I found an error in the 1861 census Wales, this was years ago and I tried to raise the issue with Ancestry without success, so annoying as the was information I needed.
@frugalitystartsathome488918 күн бұрын
@V.C.S69they cannot change the Census, particularly based on information provided over a hundred years later when everyone involved is long deceased so nothing can be verified…it is what it is, plus Ancestry has absolutely no power in relation to any official record but is merely a repository of existing information.
@Kate-wf6hh22 күн бұрын
This was so interesting. I definitely learned some things I didn't know before. I actually went through the 1921 census looking at every entry for my village. I was amazed to find so many names that I knew whose descendents I went to school with.
@Beaumont-Genealogy22 күн бұрын
Yes - many of the people in the 1921 census will have been alive in our lifetimes. The example census I was showing was of my maternal grandmother
@tomlee81220 күн бұрын
@@Beaumont-Genealogy My father is on there. He was born in 1920.
@Beaumont-Genealogy19 күн бұрын
That is wonderful.
@bevleeming670323 күн бұрын
Great help, thanks
@Beaumont-Genealogy22 күн бұрын
I'm glad you found it helpful!
@bevleeming670323 күн бұрын
Interesting explanation
@Beaumont-Genealogy22 күн бұрын
I teach a ChatGPT class, and I find these examples are one way of helping people visualize how it works without getting technical
@bevleeming670323 күн бұрын
Informative episode, so interesting about the ships in port. Thanks!
@Beaumont-Genealogy22 күн бұрын
Thank You
@TrudyM-o5d23 күн бұрын
Thank you so much. Your information is very helpful, with context as well as details.
@Beaumont-Genealogy23 күн бұрын
You're very welcome!
@MrDannyDetail23 күн бұрын
Whilst the recorded ages should, as you say, correspond to the revised 19th June date there were nonetheless many households that followed the original printed rules to the letter and thus mistakenly worked out what their ages had been on 24th April. That also implies that in at least some instances those returns may potentially have included people who were alive on 24th April but had passed by 19th June, or may have failed to include a baby who was born after 24th April and before 19th June, or they may have missed off someone in the household who had been elsewhere on the 24th April but was actually there on the 19th June and thus not recorded anywhere else either. Basically it's something to have in the back of your mind if the household you are viewing on the 1921 census seems to be just a little bit off from what you expected in terms of their precise ages and/or exactly who is or isn't recorded.
@Beaumont-Genealogy23 күн бұрын
Yes, you are absolutely correct - I have heard instances of people who had died in the interim being included too. There is so much to talk about regarding that census I could have made an hour-long video.
@mariandavidcunliffe721 күн бұрын
Very interesting, indeed.
@Zaf201017 күн бұрын
That might explain why a relative was shown to have died before the census but is apparently alive on the date of the census
@traceyhall730724 күн бұрын
This was really helpful - thank you!
@Beaumont-Genealogy24 күн бұрын
Thanks - I am glad you found it helpful
@mikefardellАй бұрын
Fantastic video on a fantasic tool... thank you
@Beaumont-Genealogy28 күн бұрын
Glad you liked it!
@kevin7960Ай бұрын
Great video. Thanks. I agree that it's disappointing that Ancestry doesn't include some of these features in the normal subscription. It's a dangerous business model to package up basic tools and minor enhancements into a paid add-on, rather than considering them part of the normal evolution of the service.
@Beaumont-GenealogyАй бұрын
Thanks - it's such a shame that ancestry charges extra for functions that help people make their trees more accurate when the whole premise of Ancestry's hints and ThruLines is predicated on the accuracy of trees.
@ValorieZimmermanАй бұрын
I would always take the next steps and investigate and add the correct people down to the match. Adding matches to my tree enables me to use ALL the DNA tools that Ancestry provides, including notes on the DNA match page, added a DNA fact to the match's profile in my tree, and the DNA tree tags back to the most recent common ancestor(s). It does increase the size of the tree, but Anc. doesn't charge extra for huge trees. It has helped me immensely especially where there is pedigree collapse. Thanks for the video! Much appreciated.
@Beaumont-GenealogyАй бұрын
Thanks - yes, I agree, adding matches (manually after investigation) will improve the context and depth of your tree
@evansdebbiАй бұрын
Hints can be ignored. Thrulines can't. Its all based on the errors of other trees. If hundreds of people put their grandfather as Mickey Mouse, Thrulines will use that.
@Beaumont-GenealogyАй бұрын
I guess the way you would ignore ThruLines is not to use particular lines. Yes TL can point to garbage trees, but sometimes you find gems too.
@jtbowler57Ай бұрын
Nice job John. Thank you for your continued analysis and review of these tools!
@Beaumont-GenealogyАй бұрын
Thanks Jim - Happy New Year, hope all is well
@JMSocialMediaServiceАй бұрын
Great content and explanation.
@Beaumont-GenealogyАй бұрын
Glad it was helpful!
@user-mh5wu4be8qАй бұрын
I just looked at my tree and I don't see "ADD DNA matches descending from xxxx" link. Where do I find that?
@Beaumont-GenealogyАй бұрын
Do you have the correct subscription - are you able to access ThruLines via the DNA tab?
@angelpiper7945Ай бұрын
Like you, I plan to only subscribe sporadically. I feel like what we could really use is a browser extension that copies the cMs that they share with our other matches into the Notes field, so we can refer to it later (obviously only info about a few will fit). Or it could record the info and make a local database with it, to be referred to later. Do you know if anyone has taken on such a project?
@Beaumont-GenealogyАй бұрын
I've not heard of anything like that and on the whole Ancestry does not make it easy to report on your DNA for work outside of Ancestry
@thriftnthreadsАй бұрын
Thank you for the video and using the new feature, I enjoy finding descendants in thru lines and this is much quicker!
@Beaumont-GenealogyАй бұрын
You are welcome - I have never understood why some people just refuse to use TL as a research tool.
@BrianMcGee-f9dАй бұрын
HAPPY🎉NEW YEAR 2025 BLESSINGS HELLO COUSIN!! GREETINGS FROM CHICAGO. Thanks for the RESEARCH info. What program do you use to share Video examples of your Ancestry pages in your videos??
@Beaumont-GenealogyАй бұрын
Happy New Year to you too. In this particular video I used PowerPoint to show the screens rather than live from Ancestry to ensure I protected people's information. Then I used Filmora to "film" the PC screen, edit and publish.
@a97304Ай бұрын
Nice explanation. You also take care several times to remind people NOT to just add someone else's tree work without really checking. I am finding about 10% of the ThruLines are based on the tree builder's fiction. This is NOT a criticism of ThriLines. It remains a solid tool for adding in correctly documented lines down to matches. If the builder of a tree adds no documentation, then it us up to us to find it and add it. What the new feature ADDS is quick access to the docomentation that was used. Check it that is i the correct 'John Smith' though. This new feature does save me lots of time. It also needs to said that Ancestry jist says to match someone...and NOT where on which chromesome. This not a whine to get AC to add a chromosome browser....but any serious genetic Genealogist needs to either upload their digital results to another service that has one, or test again withn that company to get access to a chromosome browser. Why? Because the atDNA match may have come from the 'milkman' whose name was name documented.....on another branch. Shared matches CAN help indicate that the match you are looking at has shared matches consistent with ThruLines....or not. Once a matches' location in your tree is verified, it becomes a strong tool to test other matches.