The best way to do it is just wait. Let somebody buy it not ride it. I just did the same thing bought a 2023 with 2500 miles black for $16,000 It’s a lot of bike for that money. For anybody that says I stole the bike that’s all the money. The banks are willing to loan on that exact bike if dealers have that bike that’s all they’re asking for it. The people that own these Harleys trying to sell them use need to get a clue your bikes are not worth what you think.
@redbull86614 сағат бұрын
I'm hearing about a 2k price increase. I think Harley figures at this point the only people left buying their junk are going to continue to buy it at any price. My local Harley dealer still has at least one brand new 2022 model in stock, quite a few 2023's and lots of 2024's.
@GIGABACHI6 сағат бұрын
Give me a 122ci RevMax engine, I don't give a Rat's Ass about sound, feeling, character and all that other BS salad words that people use to justify a sucky, weak and heavy engine.
@Lover4yuri116 сағат бұрын
B-B-Busted!!! 😂😂😂
@ceelojaycee71818 сағат бұрын
To be fair apples apples would be comparing the scout to the nightster. FTR vs Sportster. Btw wearing harley gear while reviewing and indian bike seems very biased 😅
@BikesBeardsAndBrews14 сағат бұрын
It could be seen as biased minus the part where I say the sportsters are ugly and I'd choose the Scout 101 ten times out of ten
@ceelojaycee71814 сағат бұрын
@BikesBeardsAndBrews biased because you choose to compare it with the sportster, which is meant to compete with the FTR. Now nightstar vs scout (apples to apples) would be sensible, and your points would be pretty much moot. It's being what it's meant to be a performance cruiser, which the sportster is not.
@BikesBeardsAndBrews14 сағат бұрын
@@ceelojaycee718 the Nightster and the Sportster S are in the same model family, they are different trim levels similar to the Scout 60 vs the 101 Scout. The 101 Scout and the Sportster S are the top of their respective families. They come in at the same price point, they are within reach of each others ride height, TFT screen, weight, wheel base, horse power, and target audience. The FTR literally means Flat Track Racer and lives in it's own category. I wouldn't line an FTR up against a Harley because Harley doesn't have an answer for the FTR, same with the Harley Pan America not having an Indian response. The issue here is Indian fans love to talk about how Indian is better than Harley but this time it just didn't swing their way.
@ceelojaycee71812 сағат бұрын
@@BikesBeardsAndBrews FTR is not a true flat track bike, it's FT inspired but it's definitely a naked bike. If you go by what these companies actually label their bikes sure the FTR is a flat track and the Sporter S is a cruiser, you should know better. This is directly from rider magazine "The Sportster S carves out another niche in the market, appealing to a different sort of buyer: those who want a light, powerful, sophisticated American-made V-Twin. That sounds a lot like the Indian FTR S, the Sportster S’ closest competitor. Both are powered by liquid-cooled, DOHC, 60-degree V-Twins that make about 120 horsepower (factory claims). Let's keep it real man, nightstar vs scout is definitely more apples to apples and so is the FTR VS Sporter S.
@benspellman111812 сағат бұрын
@@ceelojaycee718 you're using a reviewers opinion to solidify your argument, that's not happening, I default to everything I said above. Just like when the previous air cooled sportster line was compared to the liquid cool scout line and the scouts blew the wheels off those sportsters, that was still the comparable family lines. You won't find any Indian guys rolling in to defend the sporsters because they were different. The Nightster, Nightster Special and Sportster are the same family and unfortunately specs wise Indian takes the L here. Take comfort in the fact that the Challenger still smokes the Road Glide stock. from the floor
@FLYANDRIDE1519 сағат бұрын
💯👍
@kennethsnider345620 сағат бұрын
I used to love Harleys, and I still love the old ones. But the new ones are disgustingly overpriced and unreliable. Not to mention that the people running Harley are garbage.
@DarkHorse82Күн бұрын
From the rider shots and angles I’ve seen it doesn’t look like it’s water cooled. I can’t see the left side bottle at all. Hope I’m wrong on that one though
@cornhead6469Күн бұрын
WTAF are they thinking. it needs a centre mounted gas cap in the cowl ( just one. too easy ) a speedo/ tach that's not from the 70's, same as the tank stickers, not from the 70's..fuel gauge maybe in the cowl, design the swingarm like a big boys bike ( maybe alloy , not that expensive if all the japs bike can do it ) , the one on the softtails looks like its from a WLA, adjustment in the forks, these rubbish must be the cheapest one HD could find in TEMU..? and fuck, just send me a blank piece of paper and ill fix the bloody thing so it looks & handles like a HARLEY F DAVIDSON
@sadletrampsscoobyКүн бұрын
Actually bags on sport glide same lop side and it had 2;1
@thetekkween3082Күн бұрын
1000% agree! I’d however buy a Scout Classic. I do like how the 101 is more cruiser than the Sportster S, but I really like the classic style and chromed out version of the Classic. My gripe with Indian is always the finishings. There’s always some little things that are off like the Indian batching popping off the tank and switches that are really plastic feeling. My scout I had was super reliable though and was a great bike. Love my Harleys much more though
@BikesBeardsAndBrewsКүн бұрын
I can get with all of that. Even the Indians I rode, I really dug em but there's always something that feels a little off with the parts when you handle them. The scouts do look great though
@thetekkween3082Күн бұрын
@ except that damn engine, she fugly…that was a huge mistake. The old one just looked and felt more quality built. The new one looks like it’s plastic AF and cheap, which is a disservice to the rest of the bike. The Scouts and Chiefs are awesome bikes, but details matter.
@jdedmonКүн бұрын
So the Limited wasn't revealed.. got it. Sick click bait.
@BikesBeardsAndBrewsКүн бұрын
So you do not grasp the difference between 'revealed' and 'leaked'? Got it. Sick way to say you don't comprehend the English language.
@jdedmonКүн бұрын
@@BikesBeardsAndBrews You're 100% wrong. Since I'm fairly certain you won't understand a simple response, I'll make it very clear. "Leaked" implies data/info/images released in an unauthorized manner without the company's consent, that wasn't shown in this video. Reveal/ed/ing is something a company does when they release new information/products etc that were previously secret, that also wasn't shown in this video. Harley has not revealed anything relating to a new Road Glide Limited. Easter egg? Possibly. I hope a Limited is revealed at some point, but nothing in the video is Harley revealing a RGL. Again, clickbait title.
@jdedmonКүн бұрын
@@BikesBeardsAndBrews Also, you can clearly tell in the glitched image, that it's not a limited tour pack. Speaker pods? You can literally see the detach mount bracket that is commonly used on non-limited/ultra models.
@whygarywhyКүн бұрын
If they changed the hand controls I guarantee there will be a digital gauge. And if they do that they will apply some pressure on indian
@BikesBeardsAndBrewsКүн бұрын
Oh I'm with you, digital gauge and ride modes. I just couldn't confirm it at the time of this video
@Eds_PanAmКүн бұрын
i agree with other people, the bags look wider to be able to put more stuff in them....I bet with those switch housings you might get a rain mode and sport mode....
@miguelvelez7221Күн бұрын
This whole comment section is just Millennials still stuck in effing High School mode being powerless gatekeepers over the choices another adult makes. Anyone saying "I wouldn't talk to someone who pulled up to me riding one"? All offense, no due respect, but your personality is a charisma black hole so ain't no one gonna try and make nice with ya' in the first place. The biggest trap anyone can fall into is the "Pose Of Authenticity". It's always ironic that a supposed lifestyle based on personal freedoms from the norms of society is filled to the brim with close minded gate keepers who just can't help but push our faces into how much they think everyone else should be just like them. THIS BTW is the other side of why motorcycling is dying in the USA after price and service issues. The "Bike Culture" sees a very, very, very narrow slice of riders as "authentic": the street and track day Rossis living the sport bike/high powered naked bike life, rowdies on crotch rockests squidding (Ironically enough STILL more legit than other types of folks to the Gatekeep's eyes.) the weekend Dentist Harley Riders and then actual committed Motorcycle Club/Gangsters. And... People just come in a wider array of flavors. Look at how even pro reviews sometimes stick it to Adventure Bike riders. All this does is makes anyone halfway interested in biker life to go "This subculture is not only limited in what it accepts as authentic, but I don't see any variety in style or approach that fits me." Surprise, surprise... Biking and bike sales are dying a slow death.
@leorobles98852 күн бұрын
I agree with the colors that are coming out for 2025. I can tell you this. The bags are going to be even on both side. Since they went a 2-1 exhaust. Along with the same gauge up top. Different hand switches with possible ride modes. Oh one more thing. The option of chrome engine trim. Just wait….the blue one.
@someonesomewheresomdeday2 күн бұрын
all new bikes are getting the vvt style cam cover. I doubt the softails are getting vvt or centercooling. Also, the 2-1 looks like a screaming eagle optional exhaust, which existed for the current generation softails and no one purchased. "bold new colors" is basically what we're getting.
@Tk19472 күн бұрын
You look like you listen drop kick mruphys and nine inch nails. Probably chavelle
@normestits33172 күн бұрын
Low rider’s all day.
@TheBlueBikeDoyle2 күн бұрын
Hum I need tgat high output sticker
@freebirdsgarage2 күн бұрын
The high out put I’d an awesome touch and hopefully they do fix the bags. Solid write as always up my dude!
@FXFBS5402 күн бұрын
Stock brakes on the softails are nissin. Put some better pads in and roll.
@robbyclark69152 күн бұрын
Harley is doing something with their sportster lineup because they don’t have any on the website right now. I imagine the S is getting a new look or being replaced with something more traditional, but with just as much power. It’s important to Harley that they keep the “performance” aspect of that S model. Even as it stands, I would choose the Harley just for the extra performance. If I’m buying a “muscle” cruiser for “go fast” then why would I buy the heavier, less powerful bike? Doesn’t make any sense.
@happyness52932 күн бұрын
Hi output.. probably the same motor that goes in the Breakout.. which I believe..was with a slightly better performing cam. Which still isn't what the aftermarket sells.
@1YouTube_you2 күн бұрын
I just wish they would use … oh idk,maybe American brakes like from an American brake company like Willwood instead of making the company less and less American like it seems to be going . Just saying. Other than that I’m excited to see if the bags are symmetrical
@UnApologeticPatriot3 сағат бұрын
Aren't they still using Brembo's ?
@johnproctor30712 күн бұрын
I can't wait to see the new colors in person.
@FreewheelerLover2 күн бұрын
Mystic Shift is absolutely gorgeous. I wish the Purple Denim had a little bit more undertone to it. A few years ago, they had a green denim that had some gold in it (I have the helmet, so I've looked at it a bit). That would be awesome with the purple. But then, I'm a bit of a metal flake nut.
@lakeithlewis13432 күн бұрын
Prediction: They'll axe the Standard and the 107.Leave the SB at the 114 with updated controls, gauge (MAYBE), same for the FB plus LED lights or sum shii. Throw the 117 High Output in the Breakout with the updates including LED lighting, and give the heritage all of the upgrades with a 114 and make it 24k.
@nrgrlsd99312 күн бұрын
It’s clearly not the same bag on the exhaust side.
@scottys2812 күн бұрын
damn i just bought my 24 lrst last year too
@joemckibben57292 күн бұрын
But I bet you paid way less than the 25 is gonna cost. And if it has new tech that means new 1st year production problems to work out. 2026 st will be the model to get
@thetekkween30822 күн бұрын
I do agree the colors are dope this year! I wish they would do the top-loading bags on the ST like they do on the Heritage, the side-loading bags would drive me insane. Going two into one exhaust also gives them extra space. My only gripe on the ST is I hate that little digital display, I wish they would put the digital gauge like the Sportster S had on the Low Rider S and ST. I love what Indian did on the Scout and Chiefs with the Digital Display.
@chrissmith76692 күн бұрын
I‘ve the side opening bags and much prefer them over the top loaders. But that’s me
@thetekkween30822 күн бұрын
@ I’ve never used them personally but I have shit popping out my bags on the top loaders so it’d prob come spilling out on me. I’m for sure the problem lol
@kleinesren70642 күн бұрын
this made me smile big time <3
@Jeff62-uo1kn2 күн бұрын
That pic at 8 minutes shows a taller bag. Compare it to pics of previous models.Compare it to the 2024 at 8:40, it’s obviously bigger!
@ryanxvx2 күн бұрын
Agreed, definitely looks bigger.
@InfamousCreep2 күн бұрын
$25k for a softail!?!?
@derfskittlers61252 күн бұрын
Why is there always a few complaining about price. Do you guys go out much?
@derfskittlers61252 күн бұрын
Also it's got a 117 so you're paying for a bigger engine.
@InfamousCreep2 күн бұрын
Wazzzz up
@bennylynn62112 күн бұрын
TFT display? It would pair well with the Rockford system. No cats in the headers put slip on and your doing something.
@jamessouthworth16992 күн бұрын
25k. Nope
@snakeskinner22 күн бұрын
This guy is why people hate harley rider lol 🤦♂️
@derfskittlers61252 күн бұрын
Says the guy who's name is "snakeskinner" 😂
@BigSmittyRiding2 күн бұрын
The Low Rider ST is one of my favorite bikes. Hopefully they fix the uneven bags...
@shooter-vx7xy2 күн бұрын
Underseat exhaust like a CBR!
@Jeff62-uo1kn2 күн бұрын
@@shooter-vx7xyThat’s gonna be a little difficult since softails have a big shock under the seat. I saw on someone else’s video that looks like they did make the bags match, since they changed the exhaust to a 2 into 1.
@shooter-vx7xy2 күн бұрын
@Jeff62-uo1kn It was a joke.
@derfskittlers61252 күн бұрын
I hate the uneven bags. I really wanted one last year but could get past the bag size and the way they opened.
@GlidingOnTwos2 күн бұрын
The price on this bike will be around $25k
@mariuss.66072 күн бұрын
Outrageous
@derfskittlers61252 күн бұрын
Not really. Make more money. @@mariuss.6607
@DrHarley2 күн бұрын
I am excited to see the release, I am sure that the High output motor is the current motor with a cam. Great job with your speculations on what the motor company will be doing.
@WestNebraskaAdventureChannel20 сағат бұрын
It's the 117 with VVT like the baggers have
@NorCal-refrigeration2 күн бұрын
25k ouch ! That’s bagger money 💰 and if msrp is 25 the dealer gonna bone 🍖 the customer for 30k 😂😂😂😂
@FlipElliott22 күн бұрын
KICK IT !!
@kennethsanders29372 күн бұрын
Why would someone want more power? Are the bikes that heavy?
@GlidingOnTwos2 күн бұрын
The real question is, "Who doesn't want more power?"
@USAonHarley2 күн бұрын
Good info… great clip
@ericroadking75642 күн бұрын
Good job Ben!!
@tiffanyrene2 күн бұрын
The 23rd cant come fast enough so ready to see what all is coming from HD
@MinnowMoto2 күн бұрын
That is a good looking bike. And I love the High Performance nature of that. Can not wait to see where they land on $$$
@angelvelasquez70863 күн бұрын
Bro a honda rebel can not do what the Nightster does checknout Kruesi Originals channel please tell me how many pros are using honda pepples 🤣 fun fact i love the ge fireblade but im only speaking on the category that the rebel and nightster are in plus harley has apple car play gps and more (i own a 2024 nightster special) who conpares base models. The whole video is rushed 😴 the only truth in this video is shirt. The scout has backing but they are juggling boats, atvs, etc..... Harley makes Harleys 🇺🇸 do your research 🧐
@BikesBeardsAndBrews2 күн бұрын
No where in this video did I say the rebel can do what the Nightster can do. Clearly your ADD caused you to miss the entire premise of this video. You should probably commit to taking those meds when your doctor says to
@angelvelasquez70863 күн бұрын
Fake news 🗞️ how do you make a video with no fact checks 😮 fun fact there is a United states manufacturing facility. The bikes will not be sold to other countries because of tarrifs on botg facilities. Basically its sold where its made no big deal. Harley started in a shack. I am confident they don't mind building a new one in another country.
@BikesBeardsAndBrews2 күн бұрын
I agree, fact checks are needed, but they're by you. Since you clearly suck at Google maybe go stop into your local Harley dealership and ask them.