I'll try this

To give them some grace, bb on a normal diet also don’t disclose their use of PEDs (at least the vast majority) and it’s misleading for the average Joe. But I agree a vegan diet does not look sustainable for most people and even less for gym rats.

You don't need process anything just focus on organic whole foods. As a vegan I feel great

@@drebates666 Proteine powder IS process food. If you can only get enough protein by using something made in a factory and put in a plastic container that's not really natural. I've been pescetarian 43 years and I'm interested in the vegan diet. But ALL the channel who talk about gaining muscle on a vegan diet advocate protein supplement. I used to be rasta, when you live off grid in the mountain, you are not going to buy proteins powder, you get what the land give you and some eggs and milk from your animals (some rasta are vegan but eating fresh fruit and vegetable every day). So it seems, unfortunately, than vegan life is only for urban people with an access to wholefood or Amazon prime, do you understand what I mean?

@@drebates666 The Ital diet: a set of guidelines for healthy eating that's based on Rastafari values. The Ital diet is mainly plant-based and emphasizes fresh, unprocessed foods that are free of additives and preservatives. Most Ital foods are dairy-free, and many Rastafarians avoid meat altogether.

@@Kryssthealien just because it's processed doesn't mean it's made in a factory. It depends on what your concept of protein is. There's a lot of misinformation about protein being in meat. If you just focus on food that comes out the dirt that's all the protein you need.

There are vegans since birth so body produces collagen. They can also do it in vegan supplement form.

@ traditional collagen supplements can only be derived from animal products so still confused on their vegan collagen supplement. I understand our body produces it but as for a vegan supplement not sure how that’s possible unless it’s like ingredients like vitamin c , hylaraunic acid

@tatymac21 they are vegans since birth like Jehina Malik, she does not lack collagen, she is even bodybuilder. There is vegan collagen.

We are against animal exploitation, first of all. Second, I am more healthy as vegan. My body is not crematory.

There is in Poland 65 years old man, vegan 30+ years old, he is ultramarathoner.