@richardsalazar121 Yeah, I didn't really get into CocoRosie until I was in high school around the 2013 era of my life, I had to be at least 17 at the time. I also was and have been a HipHop head, especially during that time, so once I discovered what Avant-garde music was, CocoRosie was my only frame of reference along with some other experimental bands. So anything they made was very unique to me. I did go through most of their discography at the time before Heart Ache City had come out so I had 2 years to catch up on their history and pretty much fell in love with their music pretty quickly afterward.

@natas2350 Yeah, I've listened to plenty of controversial and questionable artists. In these days all celebrities are questionable so I feel like if their is a connection you have with the music feel free to enjoy it. Just be cautious of what energy it could bring and know how to talk about it if said band or artist has controversies surrounding them with toxic ideals.(just a general statement, not aimed towards you) I love Death In June too, but I overall just love the music scene he came out of and all their roles they played. I like all the connections made by reading the history of the UK underground. It's fascinated me for years as I research more of Current 93, which is my favorite out of all these bands. C93 is what introduced me to Death In June, and so I got over my apprehension to listen to them. I figure it's better to just deep dive and get a full analysis and figure out my feelings about them later. What was important for me was the history they added to the UK underground.

39:00 Fall apart has always been one of my most loved DIJ songs x

oh, and Break the black ice ( 1888 version with piano and Rose on vocals - aah) x

@mUbase yeah, I feel you on that. For me, since I have listened to a lot of controversial artist and bands throughout my life, I don't have a personal problem with listening to DI6 to understand the history of the genre. The music in itself is quite enjoyable, but like johnathan stated in the video, I think people's main issue is the fact that it is inviting. The uncertainty of what you are supporting causes confliction especially when people with these extreme idiologies do support this band and others like it. Honestly, this video for me was much more about the topic of separating the art from the artist and if it's possible. I always still wanted to have a level headed conversation about this band, and doing this video was kind of risky but I still believe having important music discussions. I truly love NeoFolk music and music as a whole, so I'll do what I have to do to appropriately talk about hard subject matters. Took me 2 years to prep for this video and tons of research and digging.

and yeah, I stopped listening to DIJ. I first heard them in a Goth club in London ( Slimelite) and then a month or so later found a blue cover copy of Nada! in a Crusaid charity shop for £1 !! that was in 1992. Its strange how opinion and context can change and warp over and around time. I lived in Israel for 3 years (88 - 91) where DIJ actually played. I dont know, I could talk with you for longer but.... Hey, thanks again ;) x Steve.S

I didnt know C93 had released both albums as a DLP ! I'll have to find a copy. I had just the vinyl Laylah copy :)

@mUbase yeah it's a reworked version. It's been years since I listened to it, but for people who are not too fond of the crudness of the original version, "Crooked Crosses for the Nodding God" may be better listen to.

We made these videos in 3 parts cause there was a lot to discuss. So we mentioned and scattered the albums through out other videos. My top 10 was Dogs Blood Rising Nature Unveiled Swastikas For Noddy Thunder Perfect Mind All The Pretty Little Hores The Light Is Leaving Us All Horsey Black Ships Ate The Sky Of Ruin Or Some Blazing Starre Christ and the Pale Queens mighty in Sorrow

@@arcanefrequencies5157 Thx, saw C93 last weekend in Prague, it was amazing

@bacloumusic6835 thank you, will do. Got plenty of videos talking about this band. C93 have been one of my favorites for almost 10 years. Love discussing David's work.

@ianwelling8114 No problem, I'm just happy to know other people find comfort in C93 like I do. I just want to provide a space for people to tell their journey with this band. Thanks you for watching.

No problem, Current 93 has been a big influence for me musically, I needed to create a space to talk about these bands in the current day. Some of the bands I do agree it's hard to get behind their ideals outside of the music.

@@arcanefrequencies5157 that said Test Department, which I feel are very associated to Coil and Fetus, at Glasgow Green (which was either 1989 or 1990) was the most memorable accoustic and performative event I ever attended. By the way since I wrote the original message to you yesterday the algorithms have been presenting Temple of Psychic Youth content in their tricksy way. Also, thank you for the "If A City Is Set Upon A Hill' recommendation, I'm very much enjoying this reflective last flickering light Dave Tibet.

Definitely, I've listened to "Brighter Now" a few years back, and I really enjoyed it.

I'm glad you are enjoying the videos. That's the whole reason I started this channel. I was listening to these artists (specifically C93) for years and never had no one to talk to them about it. So, I made this channel to start a community for us industrial experimental NeoFolk lovers.

Haven't given it a proper listen yet, I know the backstory behind it being an ode to David's father who passed. I just haven't given the proper time to his 2000's work, i've been mainly stuck on the 80's and 90's stuff. Me and Johnathon will make videos on those albums in the future.

We'll be recording part two of this discussion - including Gash - next week. It's been really fun to go through the history of an artist Tre and I are both less familiar with. I had Nail for years, but have only recently explored beyond that, and it's been a really rewarding journey. I personally found a lot to love in Thaw and Hole. As I said towards the end of this video, looking back at the work from the 80s, there is deeply ordered chaos there. J

still there was no room for 5 faves :)

After doing my research on Thirlwell, I eventually discovered that, pretty cool find, I liked Venture Bros growing up. Foetus discussion is coming soon.

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Thanks for watching, man! We'd love to do a show on Virgin Prunes in the future; I think they're new to Tre, but I've been a fan for quite a long time. We're doing Foetus next, so stay tuned.

@@NewMusickalChairs Love Foetus.

Saw the Prunes many times.

​@@stephenoconnor5118will definitely check out your recommendations, thanks for sharing

The closet I can think is the project "The Moons At Your Door" try that out.