Thanks to everyone who viewed the video; and most special to those who liked it (now at 100) It was a labour of love by a long-time railfan; just for railfans. Needless to state that this was a one- time event, which brought 6O60 back to Alberta. 6060 is still undergoing expensive restoration near Stettler AB (east of Red Deer; situated about halfway between Edmonton and Calgary); hopefully to pull a passenger train yet 11:42 again; while the 2860 is a prized indoor artifact, in the WCRA roundhouse, at Squamish BC.
@paulflak282327 күн бұрын
How many time as a kid did I stand by the lower portal then walk over the the wreak of a steam locomotive not too far away.
@danielmargrie308429 күн бұрын
wow
@ianrobertsonpianoАй бұрын
I'd love to see this in Calgary again some day...!
@zinethekingАй бұрын
as-tu une carte de la ligne deux-montagnes quand c'était CN ? et la station cn cartierville, fesait-tu partit de la ligne deux-montagnes ?
@markbeech3455Ай бұрын
Brute power
@MrMASSEYJONES2 ай бұрын
This video only got 20 likes, out of all the views. Which is good, because it shows where the true railfans are; those who just don't stand tracside; waiting for some action; most of it usually happens briefly and lasts only a few seconds. And them, they spliice a few sequences together. Others travel miles and miles; chasing some iconic loco, and then give us a boring video of her ( usually a steam loco) doing a runpast for hundreds, some of which drool at the site of any locomotive. I've been railfanning for 70 years, and still stand trackside with one or more digital cameras (some on tripods, some clamped) and the occasional digital camera. Recently, I got some very decent footage of the new CPKC hydrogen locos; doing a test run on their own; no helper diesel. Just happened to in the right place at the right time. On an other occasion, I took,some stills and video of one of the CPKC "yellow bananas" MofW work trains in action, picking up ties. There are only 3 or 4 of those in all of Canada. Where I live (Calgary AB); I can see 2-mile trains by the hour. All in Distributed Power mode. The point being, that it better be a superior video, before I'll look at most. I tend to go for the historical and the technical; started liking train at age 10; now 89. And I have about 10,000:slides of trains; mainly diesel loco 35mm roster shots, taken from the mid-60s; to the didital photo days.
@MrMASSEYJONES2 ай бұрын
A Nicolas. Merci pour ton commentaire. Soit dit en passant, l’orgue est mon instrument favori, dans la musique concertante. J’ai une preférence distincte, pour le Baroque; particulièrement la Musique Sacrée. Belle photo.
@Aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa-v2s3 ай бұрын
5:31 siuuuuuuuuuu!
@SteveMenardDesignDXM4 ай бұрын
I rode this train for three years from Deux-Montagnes to downtown while going to CEGEP (Dawson College), between 1977 and 1980.
@nicolasmaillouxorgue5 ай бұрын
Thanks a lot for sharing this rare footage
@MrMASSEYJONES7 ай бұрын
Today’s unit trains are a lot longer (average 10,000 ft (2 miles - 3.2 km); with 2 units in front, a mid-train unit and sometimes, a pusher; all latest generation diesels. Don’t expect too much if you are at the Trans-Canada viewpoint, as the trees have grown a great deal and this is a national park (Yoho Park), where the trees will not be cut down, ever. The nearest habitation is Lake Louise, a few kilomers east of the Spirals, and 10 miles (16 km) downj “The Big Hill” (which is why the Spirals were constructed), is Field BC, a hub of railroad activity, where crews change, from that, to or from Calgary; to the one which will be driving the train through the Canadian Rockies to and from Vancouver on the West Coast; through several tunnels and bridges, where the train through scenery, practically photographs itself.
@PGE5649 ай бұрын
Shop that car for high KIPs.
@MrMASSEYJONES11 ай бұрын
CPKC now operates with Distributed Power on most long-range trains; and it would likely have solved the traction problem within the tunnel; but at the time, the concept had not yet been thought of; and freight trains still used a rear conductor and brakeman in the caboose.
@doublevideos542411 ай бұрын
Absolutely awesome!!! The kind of steam doubleheader we may never see the likes of again. Glad to have it here!
@MrMASSEYJONES Жыл бұрын
Thanks to all viewers so far. Many don't realise that 6060 and 2860 will never ever be together again, and see mainline service; so this video is highly historic. At the time, I shot it for my own use as a Canadian railroad history buff, but then decided to share, I was on the invite list, to purchase a ticket for the trip, but decided to meet the duo in Jasper, instead.
@WinstonMoorhead Жыл бұрын
I was fortunate to have been watching a CP RAIIL FREIGHT TRAIN going through the spiral tunnel and had a picture of the ENGINE GOING OVER ITS OWN CABOOSE. Moved a couple times and cant find it, but have it somewhere. CABOOSE
@MrMASSEYJONES Жыл бұрын
Based on the comment below This is not a video geared to common mortals, but transit enthusiasts, who appreciate the diffference.
@kaisanhoque6976 Жыл бұрын
I hope that bridge still gets used 😢
@BigDan-c7r Жыл бұрын
What size train is this
@MrMASSEYJONES Жыл бұрын
16 inches across the tracks, about 4 ft high and 10-12 feet long for the loco and cars. I didn’t measure anything, but you can figure it out by the video. How many it fits, etc. Some people here gave more details. Thanks for watching my video.
@MrMASSEYJONES Жыл бұрын
There’s quite a story behind this video. The day before, I was in the Fraser Canyon, awaiting 6060 through some tunnels. She didn’t show up, but I shot a couple of other CN trains from my high vantage point close to the highway. I then made my way to Lytton, where I photographed the local caboose and other stuff, before taking the night Greyhound to Jasper, where I checked into the hotel across from the station. Then I waited…and waited…and waited, along other fans for the arrival. The rest is here, thanks for watching!
@via6400 Жыл бұрын
Ca fait toujours plaisir de voir des gens de l'extérieur qui s'intéressent a des choses que nous avons au Québec. Comme ce train historique. Merci pour cette belle publication.
@MrMASSEYJONES Жыл бұрын
Merci, Cher ami. Je suis un “pure laine” de Montréal, exilé à Calgary depuis 1983; csuse: Trains dans les Rocheuses
@via6400 Жыл бұрын
@@MrMASSEYJONES Coool, Vous travaillez sur le Canadien ou le Rocky Maontainer ?
@via6400 Жыл бұрын
@@MrMASSEYJONES Merci M. Et merci pour votre service pour ce pays. Bonne retraite.
@nicholasmedovich8691 Жыл бұрын
Observation car looks exactly like a DLW boonton coach
@trainrover Жыл бұрын
were both the subways at Portal Heights shuttered at the same time, each had been useful many a time?
@MrMASSEYJONES Жыл бұрын
Go to REM info online to find a few more details; there’s also a great many more details in French; because the bulk of the work is carried in Québec; where French is the prime language; but is shouldn’t be a great problem if you know the basics of the tunnel. My understanding (and I read and read fluently in both languages (we used French at home); that yhe work started from both ends; although much of the improvement will be at the south (downtown end), with an additional station within the tunnel and elevator(s) to the street. Now living in Western Canada, I don’t keep up with the progress much, except through TV news en français, as well as on line news in La Presse and others, as well as occasional research about the tunnel construction, to keep me updated.
@MrMASSEYJONES Жыл бұрын
I also found more material (in English) about the demolition at a website called HATCH But start at REM (which stands for Réseau express métropolitain ((English: Metropolitan Express Network), where there will be countless details and videos, many in English.
@trainrover Жыл бұрын
those shuttered foot passages underneath the CPR and Jean-Talon Street (subways), one for each CNR platform -- it's bound to be congested once again above them once neo-barons set about mothballing trucking, right... and -- pardon me -- the rotten calibre of corporateers _stewarding_ the likes of the REM/MEN appall.......
@MrMASSEYJONES Жыл бұрын
Go to “The Gazette”; which is Montreal’s English language daily newspaper, for updates. You’ll be amply rewarded. The Gazette is available online as a free app.
@trainrover Жыл бұрын
what must've become wong with you? why would a member be so keen as to ditch their sm tool hereabouts by pottering over to some statically stale e-billboard for some matter that'd have failed newsworthiness at the early-Eighties..pray tell?
@alcobufff Жыл бұрын
Hi Would it be ok if is used some of this footage in my upcoming KZbin video on the EMD gp's?
@MrMASSEYJONES Жыл бұрын
The shake is due to a new Movie camera, a Bolex H-8 REX with an Angénieux zoom, going through first trial. The camera by itself, weighed 5 1/2 lbs ( 2.5 kg) - plus lens annd grip attached to the bottom. Subsequently, I did some wonderful fantrip movies with it, all of them, except fot this short film, given away to railfan friends
@albertofranchi6408 Жыл бұрын
SUPER BEAUTIFUL VIDEO
@MrMASSEYJONES Жыл бұрын
Easy acc
@j.m.youngquist419 Жыл бұрын
It's kind of hard to tell but are those SD 40's, yeah they are never mind ! Great job!
@MrMASSEYJONES Жыл бұрын
A few of you might be interested that some of this rolling stock is now part of the fleet of the Alberta Prairie Railway (APXX) on excursion service between Stettler and Big Valley. absteamtrain.com
@trainrover Жыл бұрын
kindly thoughtful update 🍸 I don't remember this line being that busy -- loving all that lively nattering ... I wonder whether those stabled boxcabs must've still been coupled to those old, ever enchanting, cowboy cars...
@MrMASSEYJONES Жыл бұрын
@@trainrover I can answer this one for you… somewhat. A couple of the cars were trailers on the Deux Montagnes, and I believe at least 1 was formerly a motor; the pantograph was removed before the car was sold. One car is APXX 6747 “Val Royal”; who,at one time a long time ago, was CN T9; I didn’t look up its lstrr CN number
@MrMASSEYJONES Жыл бұрын
Sorry about the typo, I couldn’t’t back out to correct it. I looked up some more. APXX 6747 was CN 6747 ex-T9 6744 was CN 6744 ex T5 and 6741 was CN 6741 ex T2 So where on the roster in the 1990s, as I recall, there was also an ex CN motor; the pantograph was removed. Coming up, I have 3 Alberta Prairie videos taken in 1990; one is about Trip # 3 or 4, arriving at Rowley; the other 2 are at Meeting Creek and Rowley, where AP 41 switches grain hoppers from alongside the local elevator, to get to the front of her train from the mainline; and then puts them back. Lots of switching, little excursion; it’s mostly aimed at rail fans.
@trainrover Жыл бұрын
I noticed the side benching on the trailer you filmed and couldn't remember -- I'd taken the line evenings, and the rush-hour loco-hauled consists being Edwardian had clerestory rooves throughout, marvelously spellbinding being full of character they were and damn solid at that (the EMUs were rusting, e.g.) Your filmings are very cool, you must be proud 🍸
@trainrover Жыл бұрын
I nearly lost my life riding along that tunnel -- dangling down the slippery stepwell watching rock bulge in and out cozily flipping on by me, praying that nobody open the cabin door to which its handle I was clasping for dear life while 1st revolving and then uprighting myself...
@williambalyx1053 Жыл бұрын
My first job with CP was on the "Yoho" Gang, we lived in converted cattle cars in the backtrack at Yoho all winter and picked ice everyday out of the spiral tunnels. Crazy job as we would stay in the tunnels when the trains came through, as soon as you fely the wind you ran for cover, that was winter 0f 77/78. Hired back on in 1981 in Revelstoke as a trainman, qualified as a LE in 1985, retired 2013.
@MrMASSEYJONES2 жыл бұрын
The train was in the amusement area of West Edmonton Mall. Everything has now been remodeled and it included removing this.
@MrMASSEYJONES2 жыл бұрын
Unfortunately, because it is a National Park (Yoho Park); the trees will never be cut down, which impedes the view of trains around the Lower Portal, from the Trans-Canada Highway. A higher point helps (by the Upper Spiral Tunnel (as here); but care must be taken to avoid being on CPR property (the right of way). For the hardy, the rest of the mountain is just fine; the higher, the better.
@stickynorth2 жыл бұрын
Awesome video! Makes me wish CP put more $$ into the corridor to allow for double tracking, electrification and the reintroduction of passenger rail service to the region!
@MrMASSEYJONES Жыл бұрын
Actually; this one has been a political football for about 20 years on both counts. First of all; Canadian Pacifiic wants to keep the corridor for themselves and freight service, Second, there are well over 100 crossings along the line; I was on the last Dayliner run Calgary to Edmonton and the whistle was almost consistently sounding. Thirdly, the price is too steep $65+; and present ridership studies do not indicate that people are interested. Fourth, the corridor is a study by itself; 3 of them have been proposed that do not use the CP Red Deer sub. It involves purchasing a lot of farmland and laying steel; the latter amounting to a couple of billion dollars today, and climbing. Next to the Windsor-Québec corridor in Eastern Canada, this is the busiest and a high speed train (TGV) has been tested on this line. The cost of fare, the track and crossings have made it impractical, and CP is not keen either. Electrification is another factor that will add to the billions. The point is that “right now”; “the end doesn’t justify the means” BUT As with the Calgary Winter Olympics in 1988; money was suddenly found to improve transportation and politicians might suddenly come to some form of agreement about a new electrified line between Calgary and Edmonton which will have frequent service at an affordable cost; the CP and then VIA Dayliner only ran once each way morning and evening during the week (one Daylliner each way; they met near Red Deer (Tuttle). In the end, it was a losing proposition. Some flew between the 2 cities, but the airports are not handy to downtown, especially in Edmonton, where it is not within city limits. So for now, thousands, either drive or take a selection of inter-city buses; Greyhound has now left Western Canada. Conclusion: Don’t hold your breath for at least the next 10 years.
@finalhawkeye2 жыл бұрын
Amazing video, I did want to see Eglinton Station though. It's a beauty!
@MrMASSEYJONES2 жыл бұрын
When Ishot this video, there was only one choice on the TTC subway: Union Station to Ellington. Nothing else. Plus all the PCCs, of course. Later, I shot more TTC, mostly in 35mm slides, but then moved with the RCAF and never got a chance to shoot the new generation of streetcars or subway. Even more so today, as I live in Calgary, the home of big trains and Light Rail Transit. Been a juice fan since age 4 in Montreal, and I also like buses. Now 87.
@airodyssey2 жыл бұрын
11:56 Wow... that was before those departure gates were closed and replaced with a Bureau en Gros (Staples) store.
@MrMASSEYJONES2 жыл бұрын
That's WHY I like to document these things, because, some day, they will no longer be there. Actually, I took a 360 view of the station, but chose to only put a small portion here, due to time and general interest. In hindsight, I wish I would have put more of the station, but mostly conventrated on the mu and tunnel. Thanks for the update; I spent countless hours in Central Ststion, both as passenger, or simply to see the world go by. Same at Windsor station.
@AlwaysHalloween0002 жыл бұрын
thanks for posting and showing this
@MrMASSEYJONES2 жыл бұрын
For the information of those not aware: The video was shot in an era when cabooses (vans) were still in service on freight (goods) trains; and at the end of the video, the caboose and some of the cargo is still into the tunnel (on a 2.2% grade), one of you wrote 1:46 The shake is due to telephoto, about 1/4 mile Away from the train and a telephoto lens magnifies every small movement. A tripod was not carried on this hike and it was cold, with the bad westher quickly moving in.
@lalbahaduryadav1632 жыл бұрын
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@danielcraig25732 жыл бұрын
Wow, incredible footage. I have been looking for footage like this for a long time. I could not find any other video footage of the Red Deer area before the relocation of the yards in 1991. Thank you so much for sharing this on KZbin.
@mattmatanovic16402 жыл бұрын
How do you get to the upper tunnel from the highway? I’m wanting to visit the upper portal but not sure how to get there from the maps
@MrMASSEYJONES2 жыл бұрын
Andwering your question, I haven't been to the Spirals for some time; but a simple snswer would be to park the car in the visitor area (make sure you lock everything), and then go straight up as I did; it's a fairly easy climb; aroynd 500 ft or so. While the track in CPR property, the surrounding mountain is not; just make sure you stay away from the right-of-way. There are open spots trackside, where you can photograph the train coming directly out of the top spital (many fans go there); but I was on a rock outcropping. For the lower Spiral, there's a trail nesrby, that will allow good closeups. Word of cautionhere, is that some (most) locos are no longer in pristine paint. Average is about I train per hour in either direction. Most trains are at least a mile long (no more pasenger, except The Rocky Mountaineer (may-September) snd they sre timed to arrive in Calgary from Vancouver in early morning both ways. Good time to get a train is between 10 am and 4 pm, after which the light isn't good. Also be aware that the weather changes quickly and that, up to June and starting in September, there will be snow at the Upper Spiral. Early morning and late night, you may encounter wildlife (wolves, bears); be aware of your surroundings; this is definitely not city railfanning.
@S550STANG2 жыл бұрын
I unfortunately had to work through here a few seasons ago. Dangerous as hell and a complete gong show lol. Gotta love the RR
@scottthompson53802 жыл бұрын
Off topic … but seeing how you have info on Calgary trains, have you ever been inside the CP Pacific Pavillion between the Palliser hotel and Gulf Canada square? Apparently there’s a few old rail cars inside. I’d love to see it, but it seems closed.
@MrMASSEYJONES2 жыл бұрын
In answer to your question about the CPR pavillion YES. I was a Police volunteer and replaced a CPR cop at the entrance, cheching admission by invitation only to an event, where guests were pulling an FP locomotive for $10 each, as a group for charity. It was then pulled back to the other end by a roadrailer for the next group. Ther’s only a single track insise, about 300-500 ft long. I posted some real good photos of the interior, some years ago, at: yourrailwaypictures.com The webmaster put it on the “stations” page for Alberta. There’s only one shot inside, some taken during construction as well. I checket a site, and the pavillion is 152 metres long and can house 8 vintage passenger cars and up to 3 1959 diesel locomotives (quoted). I remember seeing only one track. Check the pictures
@MrMASSEYJONES2 жыл бұрын
I took a long second look at the photo I took inside the pavilion. I could vaguely spot a second track to the right, but at the time, concentrated on the one on which the Fp unit was standing. So, it has 2 tracks; not a whole bunch. The Royal Canadian Pacific board the train outside and I saw one boarding, where they were piped-in by a bagpiper and a Red Coat Mountie. RCMP people in these parts, are not actors, but the real thing and police various small towns. Apologies for the misinformation about the tracks. Most eeddings ect are usually held at the othrr end (under the rotunda) and catered by the interconnecting Fairmount Palliser Hotel. Cost to rent the pavilion and catering. $$$$ and probably another $.
@DoniJasiqi2 жыл бұрын
Any more cabrides in the Calgary area?
@MrMASSEYJONES2 жыл бұрын
Phone CP at their HQ and find out. It helps to be well connected, like a railroader. My late father-in-law, was a legend in local CN and CP circles, and he is the one who invited me. Plus, I've been a railfan (but never a foamer) for 60 years.
@trevorjones85202 жыл бұрын
And to think this track and tunnels were built by normal everyday people using pucks and shovels with no gps.
@MrMASSEYJONES3 жыл бұрын
The tunnel will likely be converted to s light rail system (LRT), still run by EXO, and tied into the Greater Montreal and Environs bus, Métro and heavy commuter rail (Québec-Windsor corridor). There are several KZbin presentations, but the majority is "en français", with a few videos subtitled. Which shouldn't be a great problem, if you are a certified ferroequinologist interested in research. Start with REM, which stands for Réseau express métropolitain; or in plain English, the acronym for a metropolitan express network.
@raakone2 жыл бұрын
No, the LRT won't be run by EXO, or at least not OWNED by them. That whole project is spearheaded by the Caisse, who's supposed to invest Quebec Pension Plan money. And this video just said "a couple of years." If only that were true, will; be more like 4 years AT LEAST.
@MrMASSEYJONES Жыл бұрын
Thanks for the update. Actually, even though I moved out West in the land of big trains, I keep abreast of the progress, through the Gazette and La Presse amongst other sources. Been interested in transit since I got “lost” in the Montreal Tramways loop in Ahuntsic at age 4 (now 87). Periodically, I go online to see if there are more engineering videos about the tunnel and so far, am aware of the extra station being constructed, ventilation, etc. Looking avidly for the opening date and I will probably fly to Montréal to ride the rails then. No problem with abything, I straddle both cultures, but pure laine.
@Greatdome993 жыл бұрын
This trip had real problems. Day one: a coach derailed outside Hope. Day Two, the Royal Hudson derailed on a side track at North Kamloops which hadn't seen a locomotive in a decade. Day Three: 6060 suffered rod bearing damage when inspected at Jasper, and could not continue with the Royal Hudson to Prince George and back to Vancouver. But as if a grand finale, 6060 was rolled onto the (Jasper) turntable and whirled around for us railfans!
@MrMASSEYJONES2 жыл бұрын
I still have the original sign-up sheet for the trip; the fare was around $600 for the entire trip. On that sheet, there was never any intention of doubleheading 6060 west, and then having her come back light to Jasper; that's WHY the trip was called "Grand Homecoming 6060"; seen on some available souvenirs for fans; I purchased a T-shirt, now im my collection. We won't go into politics, but let's state that the derailments, cost CN a lot of manpower (cranes etc) , and scheduling problems; draw some conclusions WHY she never again, ran excursions on the CN.
@MrWireguy3 жыл бұрын
What a great video. These MU's were my first train ride as a young teenager heading out to A Ma Baie. Thanks for sharing.
@MrMASSEYJONES3 жыл бұрын
Many thanks. To be frank, the video was very specifically aimed at those along the Deux Montagnes line; and most particularly at the younger set, who never experienced those creaky EMUs. I get no financial reward for posting here, and do it for the satisfaction of getting positive comments, such as yours.
@jonathancharbonneau91563 жыл бұрын
6060-106st.hes got till tonight to get check up.needs bed changed,needs bandages.needs infection drained.needs il, for infection.slow drip intravenous with antibiotics.most likely diabetic.mal nourished.needs home nursing.or more from house hold.