This is really interesting, like the video. You ever seen Robert Sapolsky discussing free will? I feel it fits with this.
@WadeAllen001Күн бұрын
I haven't seen him discuss free will. Maybe I'll check it out.
@MrLittlebigdoodКүн бұрын
37:57 Interesting note about Tharizdun: Pre-4e Tharizdun was moreso associated with aberrations and other Far Realm-y type creatures like the Elder Evils, and as you mentioned in the video it wasn't until 4e where he officially was tied into Abyssal lore. Critical Role and 5e as a whole sort of meld these interpretations together for him, though granted we don't see too much of Tharizdun outside of a few mentions throughout 5e so far.
@SpitBlossoms2 күн бұрын
fey wilds next?
@Pugiron2 күн бұрын
The name is derived from the name "Ba'al" first meaning "lord" and latter bastardized into a demon name. Pronounced "Bah-All"
@helloidharbl67532 күн бұрын
Glad you mentioned that. A LOT of stuff in the DnD texts is written in a way that suggests a non English speaker decided upon the words. And no, I don't consider ye olden tyme Englesh to be English.
@Pugiron2 күн бұрын
Chaotic good = Help only individuals, not organization's Chaotic Neutral = ignore all others Chaotic evil = Destroy all others
@drefranks6912 күн бұрын
Please keep making these. You explain things so well and it’s GREAT for listening at work, or doing chores. Great videos, subscribed
@averytf2 күн бұрын
I’ve never seen a KZbinr more deserving of subscribers. Insane that you have less than 10k, love your videos
@terrymortal55172 күн бұрын
You should stop using the pdf flag in your videos its a bad look
@WadeAllen0012 күн бұрын
What flag?
@terrymortal55172 күн бұрын
@@WadeAllen001 the one that prompts grown men twerking on children. Other then that it was a very through and well done video
@terrymortal55172 күн бұрын
@@WadeAllen001 the one that promotes the predation of children
@terrymortal55172 күн бұрын
@@WadeAllen001 nice, all of my replys are hidden or deleted.
@WadeAllen0012 күн бұрын
@@terrymortal5517 they do appear to be hidden on the mobile app at least, though I can see them when I view comments on KZbin Studio. I didn't hide them, though I have seen that happen to other comments I've gotten.
@goblinbenjo43262 күн бұрын
Simply cannot believe this channel has less than 10k subscribers. Incredible videos
Never really got into planescape, but played Pathfinder wotr, and this explains so much about the game, including the naming convention of the succubi in the game, seemed odd how many started with alu
@nonemo1384 күн бұрын
Came here to learn how to mount Celestia. Was sorely disappointed.
@Dethjezter4 күн бұрын
Nice to see Y’Brienne my Yochlol character, drawn by Steven Bellshaw, in all her forms, included in your section on Yochlols
@TurboWulfe4 күн бұрын
Lve these long form vids, keep on keeping on 😎🍻🤘
@franciscofagundes49955 күн бұрын
Awesome video! As someone way into Planescape lore this was an absolute treat. Just as a note: My main hypothesis as to why most Demons are animalistic in looks is that the Abyss is a grim reflection of nature at it's rawest, most vile form, after all, aren't demons all about being adaptable and ruling through might in their own terrible ecosystems? They are the direct product of pure chaos, so they end up resembling creatures adapted to their environment, but that's just a headcanon.
@WadeAllen0015 күн бұрын
I can get on board with that headcanon.
@alexroman64245 күн бұрын
I really enjoyed this video, listening to it all in one sitting. Great work!
@michaelnelson37525 күн бұрын
He claims he is an investigative journalist and then proceeds to approach the subject with a bias of claiming he was a skeptic and asked the "hard questions".............wrong you should not go into an investigation with a preconceived attitude towards the subject (even if that was contrived to sound so convincing when he arrives at the opposite conclusion)...............then he goes to scholars that are all Christian rather than secular Biblical scholars..................and what about archologies for physical evidence or lack of it? Strobel like CS Lewis claims Christ either Lord, liar or lunatic..............hey wait a minute.....how about starting first if the storying telling isn't embellished through decades of "telephone" verbal communication before you even assume those stories are correct (not to mention supernatural event claims) before you start with the CS Lewis Christian mentality of what is Christ?...................is a major flaw in critical thinking. Additionally, me thinks Strobel pretends to protest a bit too much to wanting to arrive at a conclusion that otherwise would end up putting him in the dog house with his wife.........
@BonecoS2Neve5 күн бұрын
yochlol more like ORANGUTANG warfare
@ShumaBot5 күн бұрын
"The outer planes are infinite, so here are a pile of poorly thought out late 80s stereotypes that would have practically no impact on society by any common definition of the term infinite". Old DND was a whole thing.
@Dndditches6 күн бұрын
I think the Bulezau look like quintessential goat demons (from say the Diablo games) and the Vrock looked like the villains from the Dark Crystal, so they’re very demon-like to me. Some of the others, yeah, but I liked their variety. Also like the Lilitu from 3e. I will say though that the 2e Glabrezu’s art is a very rare instance of Tony DiTerlizzi’s art being not great at capturing its fearsomeness. When I used it in my game and showed my players the art, I got “who’s a good boy?” They were lv4. It did not capture the essence of the encounter, since it was a high level tanar’ri. Luckily I knew that was gonna happen as I also showed them the 5e art, which evokes the correct amount of fearsomeness. And my players agreed the 2e art was not sufficient to describe the monster. Enjoying the video so far ❤
@stephaniewaters17776 күн бұрын
Excellent!
@Mr_GoR_6 күн бұрын
Bro! Amazing resource, thank you! As for the contradictions and inconsistencies throughout D&D lore, I like to frame it in much the same way that IRL history is often inaccurate or incomplete: most who recall it first hand have died and the more it spreads and is retold, the more it changes as they are reshaped by the narrator's perspective.
@jozcofoz85607 күн бұрын
please for the love of jehovah make more vids in detail like this
@jozcofoz85607 күн бұрын
the level of detail, dude this is surreal. i had sooooooo many ideas it's just unreal. wow
@ayditho93077 күн бұрын
I have Never complained about Pronunciation anywhere; but, dude--it's just: "BAh-Tey-Zu/Buh-Ta-Zu/to-may-toe/to-mah-toe, done! Sir, your 4-syllable pronunciation is an Atrocity *puke emoji* very distracting otherwise, Very Nice 8P
@WadeAllen0017 күн бұрын
To be honest with you I always pronounce it "bah-teh-zu" but changed my pronunciation for this video due to the pronunciations I found in the D&D source books.
@ayditho93076 күн бұрын
@@WadeAllen001 Yeah, I can see your Intent--you're still finding your Voice. My advice: just screw the "Official" stance when YOU know what folks Really do. NoBODY's going around saying "Buh-ah-teh-zu." 8P
@adzx13h587 күн бұрын
Do a video about the chaos good plane❤
@DiujLopez7 күн бұрын
By Torm, you made an entire feature film length overview of the plane. Sleep can wait for another few hours.
@connorb72347 күн бұрын
I love this video, thank you! I never had much interest in the Abyss but after watching this, I'm just thinking about the cool scenarios that could play out of a party being sucked away or stepping into a portal, thinking they've ended up in some exotic corner of the material plane, or one of the upper planes, even Elysium itself... only to realize far too late that they're trapped in the Abyss and they've already dug their own grave by falling to temptation. There seem to be a ton of locations that would be so beautiful and fascinating to explore, if not for all the murderous demons and insane hazards 😅 Side note, still hoping there's enough to talk about for an Elysium video!! It's got my vote, I can't wait 😄
@ShumaBot7 күн бұрын
"You might find it weird that the side that sends endless chaotic hordes at its enemy has generals at all" That's what we call a plot hole and bad writing, something far from uncommon in DND lore.
@WadeAllen0017 күн бұрын
True
@MoonGoblin7 күн бұрын
Really, Deva isn't pronounced 'day-vuh'? That's how it's pronounced in the source they got it from (Hinduism) With something like Sigil, I can accept the made-up pronunciation because it's a completely made-up place (although that was legitimately a mistake that a writer made and just doubled down on, like this) This is different tho cuz it's already the term for the mythological being they're describing. They don't wanna admit they got the pronunciation wrong, I guess? Also, giving it the pronunciation 'diva' kinda brings the connotations of that word along with it and I think that undercuts their seriousness a bit :/
@WadeAllen0017 күн бұрын
I agree with you. I still pronounce it "day-vuh" despite what the D&D source books say. I keep my own personal pronunciations for things where I think they sound better or make more sense, but I use the pronunciations listed in the books for my videos so people can't say I pronounced something wrong (or at least so it happens less because inevitably there's something I still pronounce wrong or D&D itself offers conflicting pronunciations).
@MoonGoblin7 күн бұрын
@@WadeAllen001 Right on. I do the same. Some original words are confusing to pronounce and have no guide to pronouncing them though... *cough cough* dragon names *cough cough*
@Whichendup7 күн бұрын
I have observed that you often bounce back and forth between editions and make allusions that all the lore is meant to be static, like during the Lord of the First explanation, but in fact there is a timeline of events that you are missing in your explanations. Zariel was the Lord of the First, then Bel got promoted to Lord of the First and Zariel his advisor, later on Bel lost favor with Asmodeus and he reinstalled Zariel as Lord of the First. All of those things happened in the lore. It's not the books or editions being contradictory, rather they happened at different eras. Before Zariel, Tiamat ruled the First layer. There's enough conjecture that we can assume even Graz'zt the Demon Lord, was once Lord of the First before he was corrupted by Chaos while on his mission in the Abyss, and after conquering three layers of the Abyss decided to stay to become a Demon Prince rather than go back to the Nine Hells hierarchy. In official D&D books it is stated Graz'zt was once an Archduke of Hell. Also stated: Asmodeus tasked Graz'zt with leading an army into the Abyss to retrieve a fragment of the heart of the Abyss, the shard of ultimate evil. Archdukes of Avernus typically are the ones who rule over the Dark Eight and the Devil army who fight in the Blood War. It's reasonable to assume that Graz'zt used to be Lord of the First. Probably even before Tiamat ruled the layer. In the lore Tiamat did not care for rulership of Avernus or being part of the Archdukes' plotting and politicking. So she gave up the title as Lord of the First, wanting to focus more of her energy on the Material Plane.
@WadeAllen0017 күн бұрын
I will definitely grant that I didn't go into later edition stuff very much at all in this video and mostly talked about the Lords of the Nine as they exist in 2nd edition, but the differences in each edition often are (but not always) contradictions that are later smoothed out (or an attempt is made at smoothing them out) and retconned into a cohesive timeline. 4th edition provides lore about Graz'zt originally being a devil that was tasked with re-finding the Shard of Evil for Asmodeus (and 5th edition also mentions Graz'zt previously being an archduke), but 2nd edition and 3rd edition both have it that Graz'zt is the child of Pale Night, born a demon and not a devil. To accept the edition-spanning timeline is to retcon away the contradictions such as these, but I prefer in these cases to just view each edition as its own thing.
@Irokutarabelmont8 күн бұрын
1:45:22 would, without hesitation
@1casper2348 күн бұрын
Please keep making these videos
@JosefDerKaiser8 күн бұрын
10:36 I mean, saying that they were inspired by Ayn Rand ALSO makes them sound like egotistical douchebags...
@JosefDerKaiser8 күн бұрын
Let's be honest though, the Satanic Panic creating the Tenari allowed for some of the best DnD deep lore with Tharizdun and the Obiryth.
@tomjjackson218 күн бұрын
*"You may have noticed that my videos have become longer and longer, I don't expect that to be a trend.*" Gtfo Wade, that, combined with your moderately relaxing narrations is what makes these videos enjoyable. To be frank, I don't even play DnD, I just really enjoy the lore, and strangely fall asleep to these videos; as do numerous others for some inexplicable reason. Your content caters perfectly to this, as does Esper The Bard. I really believe your content is streamlined to making you one of the largest creators in this sphere. Keep this format up, and it is inevitable that your channel will explode. Do this same format on the other realms, plains, creatures in DnD and one is destined to go viral, as will this channel. I had a channel a while back that had roughly 100k subscribers that I removed after becoming a father/husband; it wasn't the type of content I desired to be attributed to me given it's nature. I live in Asia, and it was grimy, passport bro, hedonistic, young guy content.... The easiest, most quick way to obtain followers, and subsequently grow is with shorts. Make shorts related to IRL worshiped deities that exist in DnD, that multiple persons from multiple demographics will search for, or randomly be shown; for instance a short on some Indian deity that exists in DnD, with a quick synopsis of whichever is most intriguing about the character. Shorts are how your channel grows subs quickly, this long formed intricate content is how you keep them. Your channel is still small enough to where I know you'll see this, and I'm being sincere. I recognize how time consuming this content is to edit, but just keep it up. Once you get to 50k obtain and editor and start doing weekly live streams discussing lore. This channel will be successful. When you do, and create some DnD book make me a character in it. Seriously man, don't sleep on shorts. My channel was stagnant at 10k subs until I started creating shorts as like a bait to the larger format content. I sware to God, it will work. View the other content creators in this sphere, and determine which one of their videos are the most successful. If the Racksasha (i have no fn idea how to spell the it) then make a short and a video catered to it. Regardless, continue to make this long format content for your subscribers that sincerely enjoy your content, because those will be the Patreon, and the people that help you to afford the ability to pursue this career. If you desire to create more philosophical, thought provoking content you'll need to dip your toes in the debate sphere; but it is grotesquely toxic. I attended seminary, and have a graduate deg in a related field; truth be told rediscovering religion was the driving force behind removing my content online, and spend far too much time debating antitheists, and philosophers. Its taxing, and is really emotionally draining. I suggest you stick with this more light hearted content, unless you desire to connect the two with allegories for religion through DnD. If you truly desire to discuss, I know of a few smaller, published content creators that would love to be hosted for a discussion, and whos views more closely align with yours.
@WadeAllen0018 күн бұрын
Wow, thanks for the advice! I've thought about shorts, but haven't really been sure what to do with them, like whether to make dedicated shorts or to just use segments of my existing videos and which segments to use.
@MrSex-gz3lb8 күн бұрын
Anarchism isn't might makes right. In fact, it is as philosophically opposed to might makes right as possible.
@WadeAllen0018 күн бұрын
Right. If I remade the video I'd probably just remove the mention of anarchism in that section. I wasn't trying to say that anarchism is might makes right, or that anarchism completely describes The Fated. For each faction I list several real-world philosophies that each partially encapsulate the faction's philosophy. At the time I said anarchy because The Fated reject the rules and hierarchies of society. Of course then they go against anarchism by putting forth their own hierarchies.
@MrSex-gz3lb8 күн бұрын
@@WadeAllen001 Alright. Thanks for the response! The video was very good otherwise.
@phyuckyu8 күн бұрын
0:00 Bro jump scared me at the beginning 😂 Thanks for the video I’ve been looking for content on this
@char65478 күн бұрын
Actually the animalistic forms of demons in D&D reflects demons as they're depicted in occultist circles. Malphas for instance is a raven person, Beur is a lion head with goat legs surrounding it to form the shape of the Sun, and Haborym looks like a beautiful man with three heads, one is a serpent, another is a calf, and the third and his body looks like a handsome man. He also rides viper. If anything, they should've gone weirder
@WadeAllen0018 күн бұрын
That's interesting.
@SilverStrikeGamin8 күн бұрын
This better blow up, i love these type of videos. Keep em coming my guy!
@gerardoalvarado84258 күн бұрын
Idk how canon it is but there's layer 260: the Green abyss ruled by Alrunes. Apparently she's a succubi but not entirely evil but idk if she is actually counted or not or in what setting.
@WadeAllen0018 күн бұрын
Oh that's interesting. Do you have a source for it? I'd hate to have missed a layer.
@gerardoalvarado84258 күн бұрын
@@WadeAllen001 seems that I was mistaken, she is mentioned in the Monster Manual 2 but only her name is listed pg 35. And the other is Fiendish Codex:Hordes of the Abyss on almost the last page which lists the demon lords name and domain I think? Her title is the soothing spirit and covers protection & sisterhood but her layer # isnt mentioned
@WadeAllen0018 күн бұрын
@@gerardoalvarado8425 I did find this book on the Dungeon Master's Guild about the Green Abyss: www.dmsguild.com/m/product/457353. It seems pretty cool but not canon.
@prestongarner87969 күн бұрын
Sounds like Pazuzu has a first name a middle name and the last name just like us humans do have three names.😂😂😂
@Dortalin9 күн бұрын
Amazing - I love these videos, looking forward to the next one! I'd request one on the Outlands (and a separate one on Sigil).
@chronochrome78379 күн бұрын
Who would've thought that a plane with infinite layers would've taken longer to describe than planes with only a few.
@samschalt9 күн бұрын
New to the channel. Been playing d and d for over 10 years and played all editions (except 4th). By far the best d and d channel. Wishing you all the best! Will continue to watch. Keep it up!! However take a break. Don’t want you to burnout!❤
@brianpphillio73579 күн бұрын
Love your videos man- I don’t even play DnD! Just BG3 and Planescape Torment haha. Love learning more about these settings from your videos.
@nathanpfirman6259 күн бұрын
You should do a video on Carceri. It doesn't have nearly as much as the Abyss and Nine Hells to cover but is pretty interesting since it's the prison of the universe. It doesn't get enough coverage. Limbo could also be cool.