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Trinitarian Comment-ception!
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@kevinsBiblicaldiscussions
@kevinsBiblicaldiscussions 10 сағат бұрын
Wow.... These people are nuts. How can you put a translation above the words that God inspired? KJV onlyism is very cultic
@servantofchristSDG
@servantofchristSDG 9 сағат бұрын
@kevinsBiblicaldiscussions yeah, there are definitely some doozies. There are different varieties and I generally don't argue about it, unless people are putting it into some first order doctrine or excluding people from the kingdom over not using the KJV exclusively.
@kevinsBiblicaldiscussions
@kevinsBiblicaldiscussions 9 сағат бұрын
@@servantofchristSDG This is the first that I have hear of this "godhead" doctrine. It's definitely heresy because God is not parts. Each person of the Trinity is fully God
@servantofchristSDG
@servantofchristSDG 9 сағат бұрын
@@kevinsBiblicaldiscussions exactly!
@thevulture5750
@thevulture5750 7 күн бұрын
Have tseen how the KJV Bible is mathematically encoded
@servantofchristSDG
@servantofchristSDG 6 күн бұрын
@@thevulture5750 I've seen it, but I don't consider that sort of thing valid to either prove anything or to find some hidden message.
@HeavyMetalRuinedMyLife1971a
@HeavyMetalRuinedMyLife1971a 11 күн бұрын
Psalm 12:6 says that the word of God was purified 7 times.... The Authorised Bible had 6 predecessors. 42 translators, 7 died during the 7 year translation. 7 is the number of completion. Acts 16:11... Samothracia is 1611 meters tall And, they first brought the Gospel to European land while pointing at London, all described in Acts 16:11. You see, if you dont believe in every word and comma of what you are reading, then you wont be shown the finer detail. The Holy Spirit is the key to *The* Bible 🙂👍
@servantofchristSDG
@servantofchristSDG 10 күн бұрын
@HeavyMetalRuinedMyLife1971a Chapters and verses were added in the medieval and early modern periods. Punctuation was added much later after being penned by the human authors of Scripture. What God intends to communicate to us in his Word isn't hindered by non-standardized spelling, punctuation added by copyists and editors, or even textual variants from copying. If the "finer details" are reliant upon later, uninspired human innovations, then they aren't really finer details.
@Greshman076
@Greshman076 14 күн бұрын
"Godhead" doesn't appear anywhere in the ESV. I love the KJV for its beautiful language and majesty, but the textus receptus was based on a very limited compilation of later aged Byzantine text types. No doubt, it's fully sufficient as the Word of God, but the ESV is based on the compilation of thousands of manuscripts of the Alexandrian text type, some dating as far back as far as 175 AD. That a particular English translation from 1611 is the only inspired version is just plain silly. KJV onlyists mean well, but really have a kind of cultishishly myopic view of how Scripture came to be. They even go so far as to discredit their own textus receptus and the current version of it is nothing more than the KJV being translated back into the original greek! I mean c'mon folks.
@HeavyMetalRuinedMyLife1971a
@HeavyMetalRuinedMyLife1971a 11 күн бұрын
The Authorised King James Bible is Supernatural... kzbin.info/www/bejne/jYbbYZJ_g7Jpqbssi=RUcmlFwbQGlxHpvA
@servantofchristSDG
@servantofchristSDG 10 күн бұрын
@Greshman076 Yes, I don't have a problem with people that only use the KJV and think it's really the only one they can trust. I think they're incorrect, but it's not worth arguing over, imo. When they're saying all other versions are Satanic corruptions or making factual errors in their defense (or even people's defense of new editions), I take issue. Scrivener's TR isn't really a backtranslation, he just used the available Greek editions from that time and used the read most likely behind the KJV. I think he's got 2 places wrong, but I can't remember where off the top of my head, been a very long time since I looked at it!
@Greshman076
@Greshman076 10 күн бұрын
@@servantofchristSDG I have a fair amount of verses in KJV format memorized. I particularly like it for Psalms and Proverbs. Erasmus had some issues with the book of Revelation, missing the final pages and had to use some verse notes for some of the end chapters of that book. I personally would stick with ESV for it. Actually, I'd say that's my overall favorite edition.
@Greshman076
@Greshman076 14 күн бұрын
As a brother in the Lord, I find this all a bit confusing. I don't subscribe to Brian's understanding, but rather a traditional Protestant Trinitarian understanding. From what I see, the difference between Brian's understanding and a traditional one, is that Brian views the 3 as parts rather than personages, using the design of the human being as an example revealed in natural revelation. He's correct that The Father, Son, and Holy Spirit are one, but sees those as parts. There are lots of Biblical truths I consider to be of secondary and tertiary tier importance for orthodoxy, but the Gospel of Christ and the nature of God as He's revealed Himself in Scripture most certainly ranks as fundamental. I have the sense that I'm not fully grasping the full downstream ramifications for this nuanced difference. Do you think Brian's understanding ranks as heretical? I think we can all agree that a perfect theology is not a requirement for salvation, for ultimately none of us are afforded such. Nonetheless, there are certain things that are of peak importance and the nature of God is a topic that takes a top position for consideration. BTW, Brian's view seems to differ from modality where God can only be 1 of 3 at a time. I assume the doctrine of simplicity plays a role here, where God is not to be viewed as a series of parts. Sorry for the long ramble. Kind of a stream of consciousness going on here.
@servantofchristSDG
@servantofchristSDG 13 күн бұрын
@Greshman076 No problem on the length! Yes, you are correct regarding his view vs. modalism and the importance of divine simplicity. I do view his doctrine as heretical, for one, because it's atheistic: the god he's saying is the God of the Bible _can't_ exist because it's a contradiction.
@prayunceasingly2029
@prayunceasingly2029 24 күн бұрын
God became a man. So God took upon himself the image of a man. Jesus is the image of the invisible God. While making an image of the father is definitely controversial, catholics aren't saying God in his divine nature is a man. An old man with a beard depicting the father is not accurate. That being said, God does portray himself with human form in scripture, but it's symbolic. The catholics are using similar human form symbolism for the father, which is questionable but still has precedence in scripture where God symbolizes himself in human form for us, because we can identify with the human form better mentally than just an invisible being we can't see.
@prayunceasingly2029
@prayunceasingly2029 24 күн бұрын
Also, Jesus said if you have seen me you have seen the father, but I doubt Jesus meant the seeing of his human body and human nature. Rather it was likely his other, divine nature that Jesus's human body permitted people to see in some way, which also lets them spiritually see the divine nature of the father in the son.
@soldierofjesuschrist3463
@soldierofjesuschrist3463 Ай бұрын
Christ is not divided. In Christ dwells all the fullness of the Godhead bodily.
@berendvanrossum8475
@berendvanrossum8475 2 ай бұрын
I was decived by this doctrine. Fortunately, the Lord has corrected me to believe in the normal trinity dictrine again.
@servantofchristSDG
@servantofchristSDG 2 ай бұрын
@@berendvanrossum8475 Praise God!
@berendvanrossum8475
@berendvanrossum8475 2 ай бұрын
@@servantofchristSDG indeed praise God. their teachings are very convincing if you are young in the faith. When I was a young Christian I knew little about the Trinity. really just the bare bone basics. So when I started watching his videos I was decived easily. But fortunately I was later reaffirmed that the Trinity doctrine is Biblical. now i'm reading james white's book about the trinity and so far it's a blessing.
@almsforthepoor9395
@almsforthepoor9395 5 ай бұрын
Recently I read Tertullians letters against Praxeas and was quite surprised to find Denlinger's theology fully exposed and defeated. Thanks for the video.
@RyanAA93
@RyanAA93 5 ай бұрын
Denlinger excels at what happens when you participate in a KJVO cult that falsifies things then break off to create your own cult to do likewise. Excuse me while I check to see if a Jesuit typed this comment, since Anglicans are so clearly part of the Roman church.
@mainer97
@mainer97 5 ай бұрын
why not listen to someone a step above like peter ruckman.
@servantofchristSDG
@servantofchristSDG 5 ай бұрын
​@@mainer97Ruckman is "better" in some respects, but not by much.
@DebraGill
@DebraGill 5 ай бұрын
Amen, no one uses it the way Denlinger does. 🙏🏻✝️❤️ GOD BLESS!!!
@Collidedatoms
@Collidedatoms 5 ай бұрын
My kid keeps interrupting me listening to this and you lost me at some points. I can't even tell if you're baptist, presbyterian, lutheran, catholic, anglican, or orthodox.
@servantofchristSDG
@servantofchristSDG 5 ай бұрын
I'm Baptist.
@RyanAA93
@RyanAA93 5 ай бұрын
@@servantofchristSDG Come to the true church!
@RyanAA93
@RyanAA93 5 ай бұрын
I may just respond.
@servantofchristSDG
@servantofchristSDG 5 ай бұрын
Certainly. Hopefully my desire to be irenic came through clearly and if not, please forgive me.
@RyanAA93
@RyanAA93 5 ай бұрын
@@servantofchristSDG I'll send the inquisition your way. 🙂
@ParticularBaptist
@ParticularBaptist 6 ай бұрын
Great video brother
@Soggychips
@Soggychips 7 ай бұрын
Nice try, but I’m going to follow the godhead doctrine since that is biblical
@servantofchristSDG
@servantofchristSDG 7 ай бұрын
What makes it "biblical?"
@alcabins2722
@alcabins2722 6 ай бұрын
The fact that it's in God's perfect word the bible​@servantofchristSDG
@Scott-b6s
@Scott-b6s 25 күн бұрын
@@alcabins2722 man is a triune being a trinity
@Revelation18-4
@Revelation18-4 8 ай бұрын
The trinity comes from pagan Egypt and Catholicism followed suit along with the harlot daughters of Revelation. The trinity is not biblical. Look up the pagan origins of the trinity. The Godhead is biblical. Colossians 2:9 God is 3 parts consisting of soul, body and Spirit/Ruach. God is not 3 persons of a pagan trinity.
@servantofchristSDG
@servantofchristSDG 8 ай бұрын
The Egyptian, and Hindu, and whatever other supposed "origins" that I have seen do not resemble the doctrine of the Trinity.
@Revelation18-4
@Revelation18-4 6 ай бұрын
@@servantofchristSDG Yes, they do. There god has 3 faces.
@prayunceasingly2029
@prayunceasingly2029 6 ай бұрын
​@Revelation18-4 there are other similarities or resemblance in other faiths with the Christian faith. Just because there are similarities doesn't mean the similarities are simply borrowed by Christians. And if one looks at the different gods, the similarities are cosmetic are surface level and not much more. The trinity is a doctrine the church arrived at for a good reason. Your own doctrine is not the apostolic church's historical doctrine and must be discarded and rejected.
@Scott-b6s
@Scott-b6s 25 күн бұрын
@@prayunceasingly2029 Hinduism believe their gods are one God
@Scott-b6s
@Scott-b6s 25 күн бұрын
@@Revelation18-4 the three are not each other that is three Gods
@brettlucas9607
@brettlucas9607 10 ай бұрын
Both parties here are wrong. No one theologian or preacher has all the answers. The Trinity heresy and this topic of discussion is not going to be totally resolved until Jesus gets back here. In the meantime, everybody needs to love one another as christ loved. There's a scripture verse that says "every man is right in his own eyes". Pray for jesus to get back here soon. God bless you all
@Delsha777
@Delsha777 11 ай бұрын
The misunderstanding and error here is in the proper understanding of the oneness of God. God is one family of divine beings. Adam and Eve are one flesh in marriage. The Godhead is one God including the Father, Holy Spirit, and Jesus Christ our Lord. Each one is God and a member of the Godhead family. Blessings. PS... Man is made after the similitude of God. This simply means that Adam and Eve and therefore mankind are made in the image and likeness of God both male and female. Eve was designed in the image of Holy Spirit. Adam was designed in the image of Jesus.
@SimplyProtestantBibleBeliever
@SimplyProtestantBibleBeliever Жыл бұрын
Love this brother! Merry Christmas!
@servantofchristSDG
@servantofchristSDG Жыл бұрын
Merry Christmas!
@iam_helel
@iam_helel Жыл бұрын
The word was with God = The word Sitting right hand So simple..why confused 😂😂😂
@iam_helel
@iam_helel Жыл бұрын
What Jewish people said about they one God ?
@Scott-t2p
@Scott-t2p Жыл бұрын
God has body parts Exodus 33:23 KJV
@tonycostanzo4276
@tonycostanzo4276 Жыл бұрын
All Catholics are not saved ,that's a fact ,
@aaronball9815
@aaronball9815 Жыл бұрын
Really enjoying your videos brother. Keep up the good work. I would love to respond to some of the stuff that Denlinger spouts. Maybe we could do a video collab one day and discuss and critique these non historical kjv only "fundamentalist" thought patterns. In my opinion this is very dangerous and very cult like that needs to be called out. I know Bryan has been doing this for over 10 years and has a following behind him.
@aaronball9815
@aaronball9815 Жыл бұрын
Wow. The direct misrepresentation of what Fred Sanders was saying astonishes me. I would love to debate one of these guys but i highly doubt they would put themselves in that position. If i were them i wouldnt want to make a fool of myself more than I already had.
@servantofchristSDG
@servantofchristSDG Жыл бұрын
Yeah, I don't understand how somebody could misread it that badly. And Sanders is such a nice guy, it's like robbing somebody's grandmother. They like to rely on Titus 3:10 and a debate format wouldn't allow them to just tell you "get saved and believe the Bible" before blocking you.
@aaronball9815
@aaronball9815 Жыл бұрын
Excellent excellent video. Love how you referenced Craig Carter's book. Its one of my favorites. God bless and guide you. You have earned a subscriber😁
@servantofchristSDG
@servantofchristSDG Жыл бұрын
Thank you and may God bless!
@almsforthepoor9395
@almsforthepoor9395 Жыл бұрын
In Acts during the stoning of Steven we read the testimony "behold, I see the heavens opened, and the Son of man standing on the right hand of God." Perhaps the Father was not witnessed here but rather the right hand is a reference to glorified power and strength which was given to Christ. Jesus himself said he would return at the right hand of power. Therefore, the Father remains to be the invisible God who is manifest in the flesh who is Christ. Denlinger believes the Father is the soul and Jesus is the body. But Jesus said "a spirit does not have flesh and bones as I have." In referring to himself as I/me he distinguishes himself from the body which he is in proving that the body is a vessel that the Word indwelt. So the question remains to be answered. When the body was dead for three days where was the person whom Bryan knows as Jesus?
@Micaiah144
@Micaiah144 Жыл бұрын
I've consolidated 24 verses and have 8 statements, biblically supporting Nontrinity. But i'm learning to hold back unless directly asked for them or responded to. No other only true God besides Heavenly Father.
@RegalBeagle444
@RegalBeagle444 Жыл бұрын
It make me wonder, if the Catholic Church secretly controls everything, don't you think his channel would've been taken down a long time ago for teaching a major heresy???
@servantofchristSDG
@servantofchristSDG Жыл бұрын
Well that would require thinking logically about things...
@RegalBeagle444
@RegalBeagle444 Жыл бұрын
7:37 on is so savage. I don't understand how Bryan doesn't understand something so simple
@PanzerFox
@PanzerFox Жыл бұрын
Denlinger is proof learning how to mimic Peter Ruckman doesnt make you intelligent or coherent
@servantofchristSDG
@servantofchristSDG Жыл бұрын
Drinking deeply at the Ruckman well has the opposite effect.
@qijiy
@qijiy Жыл бұрын
This was one of your best refutations yet, keep it up!
@servantofchristSDG
@servantofchristSDG Жыл бұрын
Thank you!
@almsforthepoor9395
@almsforthepoor9395 Жыл бұрын
Verse 12 of Colossians follows: Buried with him (Christ) in baptism, wherein also ye are risen with him (Christ) through the faith of the operation of God, who hath raised him from the dead. --- We are told we have an Advocate who stands for us before the Father thus indicating the Father / Son relationship.
@servantofchristSDG
@servantofchristSDG Жыл бұрын
Amen! This is one of the fatal errors of a unitarian/modalist system.
@qijiy
@qijiy Жыл бұрын
Slam dunk! 👏
@qijiy
@qijiy Жыл бұрын
Yeah.. this guy is a total weirdo.. I don't know why I wasted a year of my life following his ministries. Good that God got me out of it, some people on his channel have been commenting for like 10 years. Sad stuff.
@servantofchristSDG
@servantofchristSDG Жыл бұрын
Yes, it's sad to see the people still sticking with him and his heresies after so long.
@qijiy
@qijiy Жыл бұрын
Excellent refutation 👍
@qijiy
@qijiy Жыл бұрын
Thank you so much for making these videos, I used to be a devout follower of Denlinger & I believed his “Godhead doctrine”. I was driven away by the backstabbing, hatred, mockery, biblicism, and severe disconnection with Church History that is rampant in the KJV only movement, and now am coming to understand the orthodox faith of the historic church including the doctrine of the Trinity. KJV onlyists often repeat old heresies or come up with bizarre new ones due to their laughable disconnection with Church history and denial of true believers as “Roman Catholics”. Beyond the false sense of security in a 17th century Anglican Bible, hilarious personality cults, rapture culture, and trail of blood pamphlets, there is no significant theological backbone. Those of us who want to actually understand the nature of our God, the history of our church, and do legitimate exegesis of the text from the original languages and historical context will usually be driven out among accusations of heresy and be seen as someone who was never a true believer. I love the work you and other historically rooted Protestants like James White are doing to combat this movement, and to defend the faith to the world. It is important we don’t allow new converts to be stolen away by KJV cults for a false sense of security. Sadly, many of these guys will just dismiss you and all the sources you used as “Catholic” and will not actually respond to them. Much prayer is needed for the Lord to open their eyes. God bless, and all glory to the Triune God.
@servantofchristSDG
@servantofchristSDG Жыл бұрын
Amen, all glory to God!
@AlexKenas
@AlexKenas Жыл бұрын
I have made numerous videos on that sanctimonious hypocrite, who judges based on appearances, makes conspiracy theories based on remote connections, disregards his own standards, and the list goes on. Semper Pax Christe tecum nunc et ad aeternum.
@Official_Random_Guy
@Official_Random_Guy Жыл бұрын
You think if people don't do communion in a Catholic church, they are doomed to hell, or at least you support a system that teaches this. Who are you to complain about others condemning you to hell if you support a system that does this exact same thing? Your hypocrisy is astounding.
@servantofchristSDG
@servantofchristSDG Жыл бұрын
I don't know how you could get any of that from what I said if you watched more than 2 minutes of this video.
@Official_Random_Guy
@Official_Random_Guy Жыл бұрын
@@servantofchristSDG Don't play dumb.
@servantofchristSDG
@servantofchristSDG Жыл бұрын
@@Official_Random_Guy I'm dumbfounded, that's about it. What have I said to make you think that I support a system or I think if someone doesn't do communion in a Catholic church he's doomed to hell?
@Official_Random_Guy
@Official_Random_Guy Жыл бұрын
​@Servant of Christ I said, don't play dumb. You are well aware of what sources and teachings you have presented in this video, let alone all of your other videos. My criticism is not based on what you said in this one video alone. To claim otherwise is to play dumb.
@servantofchristSDG
@servantofchristSDG Жыл бұрын
@@Official_Random_Guy Yes, I certainly am aware of all the sources I have drawn from and some I haven't drawn from. Why does using a source that proves helpful mean that I support everything he believed or everything the denomination he was part of supposedly believes? I don't complain that Denlinger's system would condemn me and most other Christians to hell. I certainly believe there are damnable heresies: a false god, a false christ, or a false gospel being primary. I mention it because their reasons for doing so are laughably poor.
@Isaiah_Cochran
@Isaiah_Cochran Жыл бұрын
1. No 2. Yes 3. No 4. No
@servantofchristSDG
@servantofchristSDG Жыл бұрын
Thanks for replying! Do you think that God's being could be illogical or irrational?
@Isaiah_Cochran
@Isaiah_Cochran Жыл бұрын
@@servantofchristSDG Yes
@servantofchristSDG
@servantofchristSDG Жыл бұрын
@@Isaiah_Cochran Wouldn't that preclude our ability to truly know God? We can't truly know and love a married bachelor; such a thing does not even exist! If the God Scripture reveals to us could be other than what He is revealed to be...I''d posit that we know nothing about Him.
@Isaiah_Cochran
@Isaiah_Cochran Жыл бұрын
@@servantofchristSDG You're making it sound like you need to know God's true, metaphysical inconceivable nature to know Him. And in that regard, I'd think it'd be equally hard to marry someone I've never truly seen the face of; but of course we know it just ain't so, I truly love Jesus, a Man I'ain't never seen. Let alone if this King James Bible in my hand was all I was left with to know Him and His nature for eternity, my love would still continue to grow stronger for Him day by day, even without ever being able to physically see Him or to truly, completely know His infinite being
@servantofchristSDG
@servantofchristSDG Жыл бұрын
@@Isaiah_Cochran I don't mean to imply that we have to have comprehensive knowledge about God or even that it is possible (I deny we can.) But we can apprehend what He has revealed about Himself. In other words, we can know truly, without knowing fully. But I think if we grant that God can be illogical, we undermine the whole foundation for true knowledge of God through His word. When Scripture says "God is love" and "God is light, and in him is no darkness at all," those statements are true, but if God can be contradictory, they lose their meaning.