I seem to recall that it was on eBay, but we are talking a long time ago, so I'm not absolutely certain on that!
@thelightingenthusiast17 күн бұрын
As far as I’m aware, this was the only streetlight lantern Designplan had offered (not counting the Zelos post or Brunel post). In my opinion, they should bring this back into production and use an opal bowl to reduce the glare from the LEDs.
@StreetLightOnline17 күн бұрын
Certainly, if there were others, I don't remember them, and I can't check the Internet Archive for old versions of the Designplan website at present to confirm this as it's offline, typically! Even this version is quite glary, owing to the non-coated lamp employed, so an opal bowl option would have been handy, even in the discharge days. The ones at my secondary school were SON-E, bar one, which was MBF (with a far more yellowed bowl too!).
@davidclarke1026 күн бұрын
is it deluxe white color improved or warmtone type?
@StreetLightOnline26 күн бұрын
No, just the standard MBF phosphor, though I agree that the camera has enhanced the appearance to make the lamp seem warmer.
@davidclarke1026 күн бұрын
how is mbf differ from maf mercury vapour lighting in terms of color output and design?
@StreetLightOnline26 күн бұрын
The 'A' represents medium pressure, whereas 'B' is high pressure (I don't know why they're not the other way around, when 'C' is low pressure, however). MAF is quite rare, though according to this video, a modern MAF lamp looks identical in operation to an MBF: kzbin.info/www/bejne/pJi5e4KGaJKEd9U .
@chihofung686026 күн бұрын
That's an extremely long life for a daily used SON lamp.
@StreetLightOnline26 күн бұрын
Yeah, a very good innings, even with it being a Philips PIA.
@FinlaysFireSystemsElectrical27 күн бұрын
Great videos Mike!! I must email you soon its been way too long. Been very very very busy recently! All the best, Finlay.
@StreetLightOnline27 күн бұрын
Funnily, I've just been speaking to someone bearing more than a passing resemblance to your good self - very strange! Thanks for the good wishes too!
@andrewneale914728 күн бұрын
Just a quick question - what Camera/lens do you use for the close-up shots of lanterns in situ?
@StreetLightOnline28 күн бұрын
The current choice is a Canon SX70HS bridge camera - it struggles a bit with 50 Hz frequency flicker if I'm photographing a lantern that is lit, but in good sunlight, with a blue sky, it produces some excellent close-ups...as will be seen when the next site update lands (hopefully soon)!
@andrewneale914728 күн бұрын
@@StreetLightOnline I'm sure looking forward to the next update - I have a feeling it will be a big one since it's a couple of years since the last update
@StreetLightOnline28 күн бұрын
Ohh yes! Hopefully, it'll be up before the end of this year - nearly 400 new Survivor articles at the time of writing - phew!
@andrewneale914728 күн бұрын
@@StreetLightOnline Not sure if it is a bit late but on Gutteridge Lane near Romford there is an old concrete column submerged in foliage but still in plain sight
@StreetLightOnline28 күн бұрын
Found it! What's the story with that one - was there a premises on that piece of land in the past, do you know?
@NSOX18Ай бұрын
Hi Mike , it’s me again. That Bensox account was my new one as I couldn’t access this one. Anyways , I just wanted to ask what Date Code is (9M)? I’m assuming it’s 1979 because I have a new old stock Philips 150W SON lamp with that date.
@StreetLightOnlineАй бұрын
The Philips system sees the number and letter swapped every ten years - in the instances where the number is first, as with your mystery lamp, the production decade was odd (i.e. 1970s, 90s, 2010s, for example). Where it's the opposite, the lamp was produced in an 'even' decade. Thus, sometimes, you have to look for other clues that would suggest a particular decade being more likely than another would be - is yours in a cardboard carton or wrapped in paper, for example? The latter would certainly hint at a 1979 lamp, rather than 1999. Month 'M' would be December, regardless.
@onlyme436Ай бұрын
We need to install a full size lamp post like this on my property. How do you fit it so easy? Is there some sort of base that it slides onto? If so do you need to concrete this base in place?
@StreetLightOnlineАй бұрын
In the case of the one in the video, as the column was replacing an existing one in the same location, the hole in the ground was there already, so swapping over was easy. In the case of my own, it was all hand-digging using shovels and trowels to the depth (and width) of the root section, which was far more time-consuming - it was lucky that I had an inset day from school just before the column was due to be installed! Most actual lighting contractors use a special twin-headed shovel, known as a "Post Hole Shovel" ( www.diy.com/departments/bulldog-post-hole-digger-l-332mm/5013693051117_BQ.prd?storeId=1052 ), which can speed the process up. Columns are sometimes placed into a pre-installed plastic sleeve, as you thought, although most are just plonked straight into the ground, and secured with concrete that should fill the hole until slightly below ground level.
@V530-15ICRАй бұрын
5:36 That one all the way to the left blinks.
@StreetLightOnlineАй бұрын
It doesn't in reality; just the 50 Hz flicker being picked up by the camera - all the more here because of multiple brightnesses and colours that it was trying to balance out!
@pete21pete21Ай бұрын
My Derby home was amazing and beautiful until Labour councillors took the brown envelopes from lodge developers
@Ni5eiАй бұрын
4:05 "The units last 10 years" Dream on buddy! Work for a maintenance company for a month and see how many of them fail loooong before that.
@StreetLightOnlineАй бұрын
Absolutely - 10 years for an LED lantern would be good going, given that some LED kit from even more recently than that is being ripped out now in favour of the latest LED offerings!
@thelightingenthusiast2 ай бұрын
I recently acquired my first lantern and it’s currently sitting in the front of my garden, waiting to be mounted on a column. Do you know any flanged base columns that can directly be wired to the mains without requiring any underground digging?
@StreetLightOnline2 ай бұрын
You might be better with a free-standing mini column on a base plate (the same as what I use for my post-tops) for convenience and portability. Typically, the plate is 300 mm squared (and about 10 mm thick, for stability), with the 76 mm tube welded into the centre. Congratulations on your first acquisition, incidentally...here's to the next 199 (my current total)!
@thelightingenthusiast18 күн бұрын
@@StreetLightOnline Where can you get them from? And how much do they cost?
@StreetLightOnline17 күн бұрын
Somewhere locally that does steel fabrication should be able to assist you - just describe (or draw out - you can use my pictures on the site as a guide) what you're after, and they ought to assist. Cost-wise, I'd say no more than £100 as a ballpark maximum, although the freshly-restored HW-898 is positioned alongside me while I type this (it just needs its gear wiring up, and then will be ready to roll), and the engineering work involved with that, along with the special mini column that I had made, was a *bit* more than that figure...it was worth it, though - pictures and video coming "soon", all being well!
@SouthWalesSOX2 ай бұрын
Came across a load of the bigger Bergo 2202 (I think) the other day, to my amazement they were running 2x 18w SOX! Presumably these were a retrofit instead of a factory option?
@StreetLightOnline2 ай бұрын
Gosh, that's a bit novel! I'd guess that they would be conversions, though SOX for subway lighting is an unusual choice, so I wonder what the thinking was in doing that.
@jenpringlenow2 ай бұрын
This one is better than the JoceWhizz YTP
@OliviaRodrigoHadleyWood2 ай бұрын
These Are Found On The A45 Between Wellingborough and Rushden Close To Tesco They Have The Bowls So Im Not Sure If They Are ZX3s Or ZX2s
@StreetLightOnline2 ай бұрын
I'm not familiar with the location, but are these the lanterns to which you were referring: maps.app.goo.gl/Fs1rzauekHLCtVZF6 ? If so, they're ZX2s - the way to tell is that these have flat-bottomed bowls, whereas the deep bowl on a ZX3 is curved - see these examples in Derby Railway Station car park for a comparison: maps.app.goo.gl/VRKqChGhUS337SgR9 .
@thelightingenthusiast2 ай бұрын
Why did Philips discontinue the 2000 and 2015 despite these lanterns already being LED at the time? 😞
@StreetLightOnline2 ай бұрын
I didn't know that they had been given an LED option. I guess that there mustn't have been sufficient popularity for the designs to remain in production, and maybe there were reliability issues. It's probably also the case that much of the former WRTL range wasn't produced for long after the Philips takeover - the lucractive Luma being an exception, of course.
@blowingchannel44242 ай бұрын
These bulbs are simply amazing, i love them! Is there a way i can get one? Not only the ER type, but also other types of them with other textures or shapes
@StreetLightOnline2 ай бұрын
Realistically, scouring the well-known auction website (and similar) is probably the only way that you might find such lamps in the modern era, but they do still crop up from time-to-time, as this lamp of mine was such a purchase.
@The_Arrow_Door_closes_Guy3 ай бұрын
This is one of my favourite models of streetlight because I used to have that street light in front of my house but it got replaced with the new LED ones and I’ve moved out that house anyway
@StreetLightOnline3 ай бұрын
Despite no longer living at the house where the column (that started my hobby) was positioned outside, when I knew that it was to be replaced, I was determined to save the lantern!
@JamMC3 ай бұрын
Are Cosmo-White lamps still being produced?
@StreetLightOnline3 ай бұрын
I think that they are - they're still listed on the Philips site, and Derby still has huge numbers of the things installed.
@thelightingenthusiast3 ай бұрын
There’s a street near my cousin’s house that had its SGS 201s (with casual replacement SGS 203s) replaced with black ZXU1s running 60w CPO lamps. Strangely, that same street was missed during the LED replacement scheme. Eventually, a column replacement scheme started (which saw columns dating from the late 80s - early 2000s) replaced with new steel conical columns. You’d think the ZXU1s would subsequently be replaced during this scheme, but they were actually fitted post-top to the new columns! Sadly though, they were only replaced a couple of years later. I guess fitting the ZXU1s to the new columns proved to be a temporary solution while they needed to purchase the new LED lanterns.
@StreetLightOnline3 ай бұрын
Interesting that they were swapped over - I bet that even the older columns weren't in that bad a condition at the time of removal, and certainly not with the newer ones.
@FrontSideBus3 ай бұрын
Nice. I've not been to SVR for years tbh. Must get down for a gala again some time. Used to camp at Hampton Loade... those days are long gone tbh! 😂
@StreetLightOnline3 ай бұрын
I'd never visited prior to now (except to collect some Thorn 8 Watters from one of the maintenance lads at Bewdley a year or so back) - it's well worth a (return) visit, even with it being a bit of a trek for you - go to Bridgnorth this time, and set up camp in one of the Cliff Railway vehicles!
@audiotron10033 ай бұрын
Nice surprise video I love these gentle railway type videos it reminds me of my old railway models and childhood
@StreetLightOnline3 ай бұрын
I'm glad that you enjoyed it! I'd wanted to film the steam locomotives too (for that proper nostalgic feeling!), but I was always travelling on trains hauled by them, rather than being able to view them passing.
@3920573 ай бұрын
Regardless of the ignitor, I think this lamp isn't leaked, as I don't see black mirror coating at the outerbulb. Probably slow air leak into the outerbulb.
@3920573 ай бұрын
Is the ignitor a Tridonic ZRM 4000 or some sort of Thorn Super APU?
@StreetLightOnline3 ай бұрын
The latter; though it is identical in appearance to the contemporary Tridonic products.
@3920573 ай бұрын
@@StreetLightOnline So this is a Tridonic ZRM 4000 that rebranded as Thorn Super APU? I've seen Thorn Super APU that pulsing for a min when it don't see a lamp. It would be interesting how this ignitor behaves with cycling lamps and hot restrike of HPS and MH lamps, as their timed pulsing is very interesting to me.
@StreetLightOnline3 ай бұрын
I'm just trying to think if I ever saw any Alpha 2000s out on the road with a cycling lamp, and I don't think that I did, so there must be anti-cycle circuitry installed (I do remember seeing odd examples that weren't lit, so it wasn't just very efficient maintenance!). I'll have to try a hot restrike on my own example, to see how the ignitor behaves.
@shaitarn18693 ай бұрын
I remember watching this episode at school back in the day.
@PMLKlighting88013 ай бұрын
The show is brilliant I love it
@Hamo8303 ай бұрын
This lamp is also my Childhood
@KarenBonsell-q5t3 ай бұрын
Joey Boswell from Bread!
@thelightingenthusiast3 ай бұрын
What CRI is this?
@StreetLightOnline3 ай бұрын
I'm not certain, in all honesty - the detail doesn't seem to be provided, but with it being 4000 K, I would expect a decent CRI (in the 80s, surely)...it needs an amber filter to make it more SOX-like - that'll drop the figure somewhat!
@thelightingenthusiast3 ай бұрын
@@StreetLightOnline Thorn also makes these in 5700K, 3000K, 2700K, and even 2200K. You get two CRI options for the 3000K and 4000K versions, that being 70 and 80.
@StreetLightOnline3 ай бұрын
I remember walking along a street lit with 5700 K Stelas, and then onto another with 4000 K Isaros - my eyes were so adjusted to the bluer shade that the Isaros appeared positively warm by comparsion!
@thelightingenthusiast3 ай бұрын
@@StreetLightOnline can you imagine what it would be like walking on a street with 5700K LEDs to a street that’s fully SOX? 🤯
@StreetLightOnline3 ай бұрын
Ooh...retinal crash imminent! The famous video of mine where numerous lanterns ran together played havoc with my eyes - too much brightness and too many colour temperatures made the SOX lighting start appearing pink - heaven knows what the combined CRI was of that lot!
@Hamo8303 ай бұрын
Oh i really hate New philips street lights becouse this lamp sucks but i only love old philips street light becouse old street light is my childhood but Im not mean ok? Im just Wanna tell you that i hate the New Street light ok?
@StreetLightOnline3 ай бұрын
Fine by me!
@sharp1uk3 ай бұрын
Surprised that the Indigo's haven't been replaced yet.
@StreetLightOnline3 ай бұрын
Given that the '66'-plate Mickleovers are set to be replaced in the latest batch of new vehicles, I guess that the Indigos might end up being cascaded within a couple of years, particularly when one of the branded buses was lost to fire quite recently.
@Worldwidetransportandlifts2 ай бұрын
@@StreetLightOnline Oh yeah I forgot about that
@SouthWalesSOX3 ай бұрын
Did these early ones contain any Asbestos? I heard Thorn typically didn't use it but maybe Atlas did in theirs?Theres one near me i want to try and save
@StreetLightOnline3 ай бұрын
I didn't find anything that resembled the dodgy material in this one - the original lampholder wiring was the braided heat resistant type, but this didn't look to be asbestos as the material was thinner, and more fine. Thus, you shouldn't need to hold your breath if you are lucky enough to save your local example!
@thelightingenthusiast4 ай бұрын
I’m planning to have the last remaining lanterns around my cousin’s area saved, seeing as their future is doomed. I’ve already printed a few pieces of paper that I’m going to slip behind the column doors. I’m hoping to save a P178, a Beta 79, and a Concourse. I’m also planning to save the much rarer P179, which is so rare that not a single street lighting collector owns one, as far as I’m aware!
@StreetLightOnline4 ай бұрын
Good luck! It's possible that a P179 might exist in a collection (possibly, Bob Cookson's, as even when his excellent site was operational, what he'd pictured on there was only the tip of a much larger iceberg!), though it's certainly the case that there don't seem to be any saved examples documented online, as you say. I missed out on the Derby one (Local Lights > Post-Tops > Gamma 3 (visible in the background as for some reason, I never documented it)) as I didn't know that East Street was to be given a revamp!
@thelightingenthusiast4 ай бұрын
@@StreetLightOnline Very interesting! I wonder what happened to his website though? I’m sorry to hear you didn’t photograph that P179 before it was removed, let alone save it. I can save another P179 for you if you want!
@StreetLightOnline4 ай бұрын
Thankfully, it was only a small website, so I think that all of it was saved to the Archive: web.archive.org/web/20180206121146/www.eastbournes-street-lighting.co.uk/ - unlike mine, which would take up an entire server of its own (especially with all of the new material that I am adding for the next update)! I really can't understand why I didn't photograph it - I've checked my original folder from 2006, and while I photographed just about everything else in the City Centre on that date, I never did the P179...stupid younger me!
@thelightingenthusiast3 ай бұрын
@@StreetLightOnline *Update:* I received an email from one of the electricians that installed the new LED streetlights on my cousin’s block and he told me to meet him on site and investigate the columns around the estate! Seeing as the remaining lanterns have not been replaced yet, I’m hoping this will provide a good opportunity to get the lanterns saved as some of them are incredibly rare (especially the P179s) and it’d be an absolute shame not to have them saved. I wasn’t expecting this at all, tbh!
@StreetLightOnline3 ай бұрын
Wow, that's a turn up for the books - I'm sure that you were expecting no response at all, or some generic "we don't give out lanterns"-type response - fingers crossed!
@CaydenBarker-ed7nl4 ай бұрын
I am going to have a ride on the new bus on Saturday 29th of June up to mickleover
@FrontSideBus4 ай бұрын
Nice. We don't see these in the garden anymore since we moved to squirrel proof feeders. I'm sort of not that bothered really as they were quite mean and used to take big chunks of feathers out of any blue tit or great tit that dared to use the same feeder! The Nuthatch is small enough to still use the feeders though.
@StreetLightOnline4 ай бұрын
Little beggars - pecker by name, pecker by nature (oo-er missus)! I've seen one in a garden further down the street in the past, but it's rare, and I've never observed one in my own garden yet.
@HG_Buses4 ай бұрын
Hey Please could I use some of your photos for an edit 😊 ( I will give you all credit)
@StreetLightOnline4 ай бұрын
Yes, if you like, though I think that there will be more opportunities to photograph the new fleet before it is unleashed on the general public, so if you wished to take your own too, that might also be possible - I gather that a similar publicity event will be held in Burton.
@UK.RoadsCyclingandTransport4 ай бұрын
I love birds 😍 what a beauty
@StreetLightOnline4 ай бұрын
Yep - definitely a "grab the camera" moment!
@RADS1904 ай бұрын
Eugh Enviro. Dont like driving them, weak as a kitten! Now the old cummins powered Darts were great fun to drive!
@StreetLightOnline4 ай бұрын
Heh - it's just as well that the Villager route is relatively flat, and there are plenty of open sections where a good breeze will give the vehicles an extra push! I have a Corgi model of Villager Dart 940 on top of my PC, as it happens.
@HG_Buses4 ай бұрын
I already miss the old ones
@StreetLightOnline4 ай бұрын
Still here for the time being!
@yanniskarpasea4 ай бұрын
@@StreetLightOnlineThey'll probably be rented to notts+derby like the old buses for the threes were last year.
@StreetLightOnline4 ай бұрын
Assuming that they don't go pop before that can happen!
@PMLKlighting88014 ай бұрын
I love this show,:
@StreetLightOnline4 ай бұрын
Thanks - I'm glad to hear it!
@SouthWalesSOX4 ай бұрын
Great lanterns these, used quite a bit on buildings locally, but all neglected now. I recently got a Boxed NOS one by some miracle! P.s. i replied to your comment a few days ago and its not showing for some reason. Maybe because I included a link? 🤔
@StreetLightOnline4 ай бұрын
I know of odd examples here-and-there, but you're right that they tend to look a bit unloved! What age is your one? The one filmed here is also NOS, and dates from 1982. Yes, that's a possibility - the comment didn't even go into the "Held for review" box, which I have as a default for any comments received, so it could be the inclusion of the link that made your comment disappear into a black hole!
@SouthWalesSOX4 ай бұрын
@StreetLightOnline it has 12/84 on the Cap and I think the lamp is August '85 so sometime around then. Came with one of them nice pearl Thorn SON lamps like yours did! (Have some pics on lighting gallery if you're interested, Same username as here, Southwalessox) there's some single and twin mount ones in a carpark near me, would like to save them but don't know how much luck I'll have. Ones had all it's black paint stripped over the years and it's completely white, other than the post mount.
@StreetLightOnline4 ай бұрын
Ooh, fantastic - the pearl lamps create a very unique appearance! Apparently, the machinery used in producing these dated back to the Atlas days, when their MB/U lamps featured a pearl coating too. It's good that the dates are so readily available - I always try to think of what the people on the production lines would have been doing on those dates...in the case of yours, I hope that the operative was due to have his or her mullet reshaped that very evening! Wow, I've never seen one where the paint has degraded to that extent - most unusual! I hope that you have some success in saving them.
@pupskin1234 ай бұрын
The timer at the beginning...what a staple! 😊
@Chrisakatimetraveler20134 ай бұрын
Was this actually 2014
@StreetLightOnline4 ай бұрын
No; the First and Last railtour was a few years earlier, on the 15th May 2011. 2014 was when the C Stock Explorer was held, however.
@Chrisakatimetraveler20134 ай бұрын
@@StreetLightOnline I miss the c stock
@thelightingenthusiast4 ай бұрын
I just got done writing a group letter to CU Phosco requesting them to make an LED version of this lantern along with the less common P172. I’ve even included your name in the letter along with a few other lighting enthusiasts’ names.
@StreetLightOnline4 ай бұрын
Well, you never know what might happen, but could I ask that my name be omitted from the letter, please? It's probably also best not to include the names of other enthusiasts, unless they have expressed permission to be included.
@thelightingenthusiast4 ай бұрын
@@StreetLightOnline I’ve asked other members if their names can be included in the letter and so far, a few people have actually responded back and gave me permission to do so. Don’t worry, the letter is only shown in private and any names will be kept off public domain.
@StreetLightOnline4 ай бұрын
I wonder if they still have the tooling somewhere that could be adapted! As I'm "in the industry" outside of the hobby, I wouldn't really want to be mentioned on anything that goes to a manufacturer, regardless of where it is to be displayed, in all honesty - that's the drawback to the street lighting industry - it's rather close-knit!
@thelightingenthusiast4 ай бұрын
@@StreetLightOnline It could be possible, as Schréder has discontinued the original Teceo in favour of the gen2 incarnation.
@StreetLightOnline4 ай бұрын
If only Philips would relaunch the iconic MA series in LED! I photographed some surviving 50s and Alpha 4s today, incidentally - it seems dreadfully wrong to class these as 'Survivors', when I suspect that they are considerably younger than me, but they are going soon, and they're not exactly ten-a-penny any longer!
@SouthWalesSOX5 ай бұрын
Was supposed to post this yesterday, but its been 10 years since we were introduced to this epic music which (along with your excellent website of course) played a massive part in my intrest of streetlights, so i thank you for that (my family that has to put up with me collecting maybe not so much lol) never did i think I'd be able to collect my own lanterns as i read through your website as a kid! Hope your doing well, and hopefully a website update soon ? 😉
@StreetLightOnline5 ай бұрын
I am impressed that you knew the date, as I certainly didn't! Your kind words there have made me blush - thank you for the good wishes! Likewise, I didn't think that I would ever be able to collect lanterns when my hobby began, and look where we are now - the 200th will enter the Collection at the weekend (in theory) - don't tell your family that this is where it can lead! Oh, very much so - I have been busy compiling the next site update ever since I uploaded the last one - I hope that it will be this year that it arrives...still plenty of Survivors to visit and photograph around the UK, but I hope to sweep up as many as I can in the next few weeks, weather pending!
@SouthWalesSOX5 ай бұрын
@StreetLightOnline haha I'm already past the 100 mark after 3 yrs of collecting lol. What lantern do you have arriving this weekend? I should hopefully have a NOS Thorn Piazza arriving. Yeah still a few survivors about that I'd like to photograph too, but not driving makes that a bit difficult unfortunately, though there's a few good ones here in South Wales, if you're ever in the area let me know and I'll send a list of their locations. Looking forward to the next update!
@StreetLightOnline5 ай бұрын
There's no stopping you! Oh, I'm sworn to secrecy on that one - it is rather rare, however! ;-) Is the Piazza the original type, or the later one, do you know? You're probably best not driving, as you just end up paying a fortune for fuel and vehicle upkeep with Survivors being scattered all over the place - I can vouch for that! Thanks - that sounds good; I'll bear you in mind! Are there any lanterns that you're after currently?
@SouthWalesSOX5 ай бұрын
@StreetLightOnline haha fair enough, very intriguing 🤣 The Piazza is (should be) the old square version. I've heard similar opinions r.e driving haha. As for lanterns I'm after it's a list as long as my arm lol, my most wanted other than some decorative lanterns are the Thorn Triumph, ZX3 (Mid and very shallow polycarbonate bowl), GR200 and one of them old part night Zodion cells with the black base and clear top. Also looking to increase my Concrete bracket collection.
@StreetLightOnline5 ай бұрын
Heh - always leave them guessing! Ah, good - although both types are renowned for bowl yellowing, the earlier type seems to be better quality - I've seen many of the newer type where the lamp has scorched the plastic. Yeah, some of the drives that I've been on have taken forever as there are just no high speed roads...still, it's worth it when you end up photographing something rare and old at the end! Ah, I've none of those in my "surplus" pile at present, but never say never...the original SS9 might be more of a challenge, mind you!
@thelightingenthusiast5 ай бұрын
It’s with great sadness I have to report that the Phosco P178s around my cousin’s block have finally met their inevitable replacement with new LED lanterns. Although the P178s were desecrated with LED corn lamps, sadly they’re no more. The P179s nearby remain, but for how much longer is anybody’s guess. Nevertheless, I am absolutely gutted to see that my childhood lanterns have now been replaced in the name of “progress.”
@StreetLightOnline5 ай бұрын
Ah, that is a shame - you wonder what prompted the complete replacement if the lanterns were running LED lamps quite happily until now.
@thelightingenthusiast5 ай бұрын
@@StreetLightOnline Admittedy, the LED retrofits did a poor job at lighting the access road, which is probably why they’ve been replaced. Either that, or the council earmarks any non-LED lanterns for replacement, regardless if they’re already running LED lamps.
@StreetLightOnline5 ай бұрын
I guess that the limited optical capabilities of the P178 could also be a factor. If you're suffering withdrawal symptoms, a trip to the hospital will see you right...Boston's Pilgrim Hospital, to be exact, as there are P178s in the grounds there - some still run SON, but a lot have been LED corned: maps.app.goo.gl/CpLBCu5kfNTeTCDd8 - these may, or may not, be a feature of a future new Survivor article..!
@thelightingenthusiast5 ай бұрын
@@StreetLightOnline Yeah, the translucent opal bowls did not help with how dim the LED cobs were! I would much rather have the P178s retrofitted with Philips TrueForce LED lamps instead of a complete lantern replacement. As crazy as it sounds, I have actually complained to the council about the new LED lanterns they installed. They’re way too bright and dazzling and they just don’t look as aesthetically pleasing as the P178s! From looking at your examples, it’s great to see that these lanterns are still in service, let alone so many! I really do hope that they remain for more years to come.
@StreetLightOnline5 ай бұрын
The TrueForce lamps would have been an interesting test for brightness levels - I've never (knowingly) seen any lit for myself yet. No harm in voicing your concerns to the relevant authorities, though I know that you're sensible enough to realise that now that they're changed, that is the end of the road for the P178s, sadly! Indeed, that car park would be Nirvana for you!
@samuelfellows69235 ай бұрын
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@andrewneale91475 ай бұрын
Quick question - I have just received a SGS 204 and the fibres are shedding a lot. Should I sand and paint the canopy and if so, how did you paint the fibreglass?
@StreetLightOnline5 ай бұрын
I favour doing exactly that as those loose fibres can cause skin irritation. My own 204 had not been used for long enough for the shedding to start, but my 150 W 203 was bad - the method that I used is described on its page: www.streetlightonline.co.uk/SGS203_150W_photographs.htm , with the finish being Rust-oleum Mode Cream Gloss spray paint.
@andrewneale91475 ай бұрын
@@StreetLightOnline OK, I will try that. I will have to get rid of the giant pile of dead wasps in the lantern first! It dates from 1985, so I'm not surprised at the amount of dirt. I scrubbed and sanded my SGS203 which was caked in lichen and it turned out pretty well
@StreetLightOnline5 ай бұрын
Decaying swarms of wasps are always tremendous fun, especially as the smell is not for someone with a weak stomach! Wow - if it is from 1985, that must be one of the oldest 204s in existence - it didn't even make the catalogues until about 1988!
@andrewneale91475 ай бұрын
@@StreetLightOnline the eBay listing says it is from 1985, and it is still running on its original ballast