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@sunukun80
@sunukun80 8 жыл бұрын
спасибо за ролик
@XinFuGompa
@XinFuGompa 8 жыл бұрын
Thank you.
@guideseeker233
@guideseeker233 8 жыл бұрын
It's fantastic seeing how fluidly your body moves with the complex movements but I have a few questions.1. Does your breathing vary or remain consistent during the walk and if so, is this similar to regular deep breaths through the nose or yogic / reverse breathing?2. I understand that the body should feel substantial at the hips and light at the top of the head to get the best posturing and to feel generally stable / grounded, but is there slight tension nearer to the hips, waist and the back of the legs or is the whole body comfortably loose?3. Lastly, as a beginner is it best to practice heavy / mud walking first or just general walking in a circular fashion to get use to the rhythm this question pops up a few times from various blogs I have seen.Thank you for the video, please keep them coming.
@XinFuGompa
@XinFuGompa 8 жыл бұрын
1. I breathe in through the nose and out through the mouth, generally. In Jiulong Baguazhang, we do not try to match the breath to the movement because, with multiple opponents, one cannot be so artificial. We try to breathe naturally, as the body requires according to the exertion and action. 2. Song, or release/relaxation, implies the appropriate amount of muscular contraction required to maintain the shape/posture you want. This is not loosey-goosey, amoeba-like limpness, but rather a goldilocks, al dente, just right amount and intensity of contraction in the muscles. Tension, as a word, can be used to indicate merely muscular contraction or too much contraction; it is often unclear. We cannot move without muscular contraction, so we always need some tesion, but never too much contraction. 3. Jiulong Baguazhang teaches students to focus on several different linear walking drills before circle walking is ever touched. This produces higher footwork skill. The fundamental stepping pattern we use is the Strolling Immortal Step, or rolling step, rather than the Sliding Mud Step. After developing good linear walking skills, I recommend students spend a lot of time circle walking with twin postures before adding too many turns. Then add simple turns with lots of perfection practice. The fancy turns are generally just made up out of combos of the simple turns, anyways, so to skip the simple stuff means the fancy stuff will never become functional. Best, Dr. Yancy Orchard
@longhua1968
@longhua1968 8 жыл бұрын
You are great ...
@bruceblackthorne
@bruceblackthorne 8 жыл бұрын
I still love watching this! -I found and showed this video to a friend years ago, he thought it looked confusing and clumbsy, however being a long time studyer of various styles of martial arts myself..I could see the beauty and effectiveness in the direct simplicity of the technique. -truely an "art of fighting without fighting".
@donhearto5057
@donhearto5057 9 жыл бұрын
i LOVE your backyard/traing ground! great tools!
@ihavetheherpes
@ihavetheherpes 9 жыл бұрын
Orchard Kung Fu I'm trying to research Bagua Zhang and not coming up with much. I'm very interested in the redirecting and evading techniques, but there's no instructors/practitioners in my area. Any advice?
@XinFuGompa
@XinFuGompa 8 жыл бұрын
Sorry for the very slow reply! Give Mike Leach a shout at [email protected] and he can tell you about the bed and breakfast training programs offered there. Many students make significant progress by coming for lessons a few times per year and practicing at home in the intervening time. Best, Dr. Yancy Orchard
@stillnessinmovement
@stillnessinmovement 10 жыл бұрын
muy bueno.
@5stringofFernandoSor
@5stringofFernandoSor 10 жыл бұрын
Great stuff. I just started learning Wushu Internal Kung Fu only 2 weeks ago and i'm 36 and never took up a martial art before. I was so NERVOUS about doing it, but I figured 'better now than in 10 years.' Boy am I glad about my decision. It seems to me that the more I learn and read up, it isn't just a sport or hobby, but a lifestyle transformation. These moves you are doing look alot like the stuff my Sifu is teaching me. I'm a big guy, but i'm learning with internal wushu, it isn't muscle, but softness and peacefulness- if that makes sense! I've got such a long road ahead, but i'm committed. Furthermore, if anything I said is erroneous, please correct me, I want to know the truth.
@jj987987987
@jj987987987 10 жыл бұрын
DId you learn systema as well?
@XinFuGompa
@XinFuGompa 8 жыл бұрын
I have had a brief introduction to Systema in the form of a couple of workshops and a few privates years ago. There are several similarities between the two arts, but also a lot of differences.
@IXXAiresXXI
@IXXAiresXXI 10 жыл бұрын
The movement of the bagua int the atack is more like relax or hard?
@XinFuGompa
@XinFuGompa 8 жыл бұрын
More relaxed than hard. Sort of a spring-steel kind of feeling. Subtle guiding of attacks off-line will feel very soft, while the strikes come out of no-where and can be very hard then disappear.
@KlausBeckEwerhardy
@KlausBeckEwerhardy 10 жыл бұрын
NIce. Thanks for the upload.
@XinFuGompa
@XinFuGompa 10 жыл бұрын
My pleasure!
@SavageInsight
@SavageInsight 10 жыл бұрын
Dear Orchard Kung Fu, I've mostly-if only seen demonstrations of martial arts around the world that are about directly striking and confronting opponents - and almost always either other fighters/students or people of average build. I've come looking to Baguazhang because of its reputation for having a wealth of strategies designed for making it very difficult for opponents to engage. Do you have any advice or familiarity with this? Also, how well do the demonstrated techniques work on someone who is extremely hardened and/or remarkably fit? I often spend my time around dedicated and very fit athletes in non-violent sports but would imagine meeting someone in a bar or so on who I may not wish to hurt or fight, but if techniques are the only option available after trying everything else (talking, etc.) I would like to know something other than strikes or throws. If you do find the time to read and answer this, I genuinely thank you for your attention. Have a New Year full of wonderful growth, -Aaydin Lee
@XinFuGompa
@XinFuGompa 10 жыл бұрын
Dear Aaydin Lee (SavageInsight), I like your questions. One of the basic strategies we use in Jiulong Baguazhang is "Get off the line; Take the spine." Our footwork principles are designed to move us freely, in all terrains, away from threats and into opportune targets. So, the first part, "Get off the line" reminds us to move so the foe cannot strike or engage effectively. This comes from footwork, first, and bodywork, second, and handwork, third. The walking around poles helps us train to avoid, reorient, escape, and engage on our terms. The second part, "Take the spine," gives you a hint as to how the techniques work. From the first touch with the foe, we are disrupting his balance. This precedes any strike or throw or lock or break. This is part of "An Jin" or pushing power and is very important for controlling the opponents around you. Every touch we make with an opponent makes him stumble or lean slightly, enough so that his nervous system is too busy trying to re-balance to effectively strike you. Often, this requires only a light touch, in just the right direction, to really upset an attacker's plan. So these methods work very well on very fit, very intent, and multiple opponents. They must be applied without thought and without hesitation. Best regards, Dr. Yancy Orchard
@SavageInsight
@SavageInsight 10 жыл бұрын
Dear Dr. Yancy O. ; I had almost forgotten about this question -I thank you for having the gumption to answer it regardless of time :) And thank you for your compliment - answers are only important with the question. I think I start to understand. The body is connected - its in how we use our feet, and our body and hands follow in a sense. Its the key of where to begin understanding the movements. This will take a lot of practice. I'm fortunate enough to be studying Western Longsword for a key reason - much more than handling the sword, the key seems to be footwork against an extremely aggressive and tactical opponent - but these people move their feet so quickly and geometrically (triangle step) maintaining any control over distance is extremely challenging. If you understand Chinese (particularly the original dialect this may have been written), may I ask if you know what nuances the words "take" and "spine" might have? I found out recently Chinese often has remarkable layers of meaning - clues in the characters chosen. I ask because when you talk about touch, I've learned that as with sword guards, stances (postures from start to finish of a move) close and open specific avenues of attack, force and power and are tied to the person's biomechanics, their balance. I hope there may be something more here. And while I'm verbose, please, do not mistake me for a mind that believes I know or understand - I hear people say they think I have a child's mind and curiosity - I'll remember what you told me, but I'll never stop exploring even what I've done so many times before. Time/Ideas are a river, and never the same. Thanks, and be well
@Tessalinabodi
@Tessalinabodi 11 жыл бұрын
think he spend his time first on 5 years of only kou pu pai pu stepping
@thegnomeidentity
@thegnomeidentity 11 жыл бұрын
dont be deceived by simplicity. this clip is actually better than 80% of what u can see here on yt: sound body method used to attack the opponent's center. no dancing. simple=useful under pressure
@orestis900
@orestis900 11 жыл бұрын
what kind of iron palm training are you practicing?.. how many minutes are you doing the single palm change and santi stance?
@XinFuGompa
@XinFuGompa 11 жыл бұрын
We use the swinging pole both ways, as you suggest, to develop different skills. Best, Dr. Yancy Orchard
@XinFuGompa
@XinFuGompa 11 жыл бұрын
A top down view shows the more subtle use of the concept I am demonstrating here.On most of the variations, I am intercepting the attack and allowing it to slide off my arm, away from its intended target, while I drive into the attacker's centre, often with the same arm.This type of action helps achieve attacking and defending in one move with the same weapon.If you look carefully, you will see no blocks, just redirections that do not contend with the attack direction. Best, Dr. Yancy Orchard
@XinFuGompa
@XinFuGompa 11 жыл бұрын
I suggest any training tool is helpful at developing a particular skill. At the same time, any particular skill can be developed through a variety of tools. The swinging pole is very good at developing sticking, matching, blending, following and even leading skills. Best, Dr. Yancy Orchard
@XinFuGompa
@XinFuGompa 11 жыл бұрын
This is just the variation we use to teach beginners. We want to emphasize the transition from the palm facing one way to facing the other as the hand rises or falls. Depending on the palm being expressed the orientation of the hand varies considerably in Jiulong Baguazhang. Best, Dr. Yancy Orchard
@XinFuGompa
@XinFuGompa 11 жыл бұрын
Various systems of baguazhang use different foot patterns for turning. Jiulong Baguazhang does use the shape you're inquiring about; we call it the hook step. The foot pattern used in the video above is called the Water Dragon Turn and uses the Hanzi character "ba" as the shape; basically, an offset, inverted "V" with one foot pointing into the instep of the other. This makes for a faster, smoother turn. Best, Dr. Yancy Orchard
@XinFuGompa
@XinFuGompa 11 жыл бұрын
Jiulong Baguazhang's Rolling the Pearl curriculum is designed to teach students the fundamental body mechanics desired before moving into more complicated concepts. Please check out Dr. John Painter's books on Combat Baguazhang for incredibly in-depth information on our progressive training systems.
@XinFuGompa
@XinFuGompa 11 жыл бұрын
We emphasize developing An Jin, first. Yes, we do practice Fa Jin methods quite extensively. We do not try to develop the same root that Taijiquan develops, but this method develops high stability during centered movement. Best regards, Dr. Yancy Orchard
@BlackKingOfLords
@BlackKingOfLords 11 жыл бұрын
Indeed it is, Ling Xiaoyu uses Bagua Zhang techniques.
@Orthrus
@Orthrus 11 жыл бұрын
Very interesting to see. Thank you for uploading this.
@thejoaneunity
@thejoaneunity 11 жыл бұрын
Love this, can't wait for the full training video!
@nunh
@nunh 11 жыл бұрын
Awesome - fan here!
@Long_Wei
@Long_Wei 11 жыл бұрын
Hello, I love the swinging post training exercise; I never saw that before, even when i was training in China. is it very helpful at developing skill, or rather secondary ? thanks for the upload, very interesting.
@JohnnyVanilla1
@JohnnyVanilla1 11 жыл бұрын
I don't mean to be disrespectful, but at first glance it just appears to be like, shoving your hands in their face and blocking. Is there really a lot more practice than there appears to be? Please answer.
@Ingestedbanjo
@Ingestedbanjo 11 жыл бұрын
Sorry if this is a crude comparison, but is this the technique that Xiaoyu in Tekken 3 uses? It looks familiar. I am learning Kung Fu (started 4 months ago) and the teacher is showing us some very basic Bagua evasion technique this week.
@ccg337
@ccg337 11 жыл бұрын
Dr. Orchard, with the swinging pearl; wouldn't it be more effective if you moved in while it was coming at you instead of following it?
@XinFuGompa
@XinFuGompa 11 жыл бұрын
phil7514, The nine post training helps one learn to manoeuvre through crowds, groups, and multiple opponent situations. Footwork is enhanced, as well as target acquisition and transferring attention from one foe to another, by this type of training. Best, Dr. Yancy Orchard
@XinFuGompa
@XinFuGompa 11 жыл бұрын
8cspohn, I am an instructor for Dr. Painter's Jiulong Baguazhang. Some of the clips were filmed at his school and some were filmed at mine. Please check out Orchard Kung Fu's website for more information. Best, Dr. Yancy Orchard
@BaGuaPerfectionist1
@BaGuaPerfectionist1 11 жыл бұрын
these vids a far and few between good stuff. I love the no set technique for a situation jus spontanaity what ever happens happens that how i was trained. the one arm dummy is the greatest tool for creativity and thinking ojut side the box.
@sampochin
@sampochin 11 жыл бұрын
always loved bagua so much
@yoyoyoy500
@yoyoyoy500 12 жыл бұрын
Guys (including you XinFuGompa sir if yer watching this) after watching this muted with music I honestly think that even though this style isn't meant 2b part dance like Capoeira...`_`...if I was ever slow or like salsa dancing with a girl these movements seem GREAT 4 that.No mean 2 insult the internal arts speaking as a fan of Tai-chi.
@dpthinker
@dpthinker 12 жыл бұрын
i really like this video. it seems that the focus is more on continuity of movement than release of power. do you practice fajin methods as well? does practicing this way develop very good root? thanks for posting!
@CeNedra1970
@CeNedra1970 12 жыл бұрын
nicely done
@learningtotowerrush
@learningtotowerrush 12 жыл бұрын
Is it okay if you write an article on how the Jiulong Bagua does the Rolling the Pearl? I never quite got the foot arrangements in circle walking- do you form a stable T-Shape? Do you try not to bob up and down as you move?
@airjordan4ever
@airjordan4ever 12 жыл бұрын
I am a Pa Kua beginner in a different style, I have yet to learn many of the different types of circle walking (did the 8 animals a few times), but I admire this different style in the video. Interesting how the lower hand has the palm facing up in your style (as opposed to having the hand pointing beneath the elbow of the upper arm).
@bawbomb
@bawbomb 12 жыл бұрын
I want to learn Baguazhang so bad but it might be from a delusion that it will make me an Airbender
@Nikolas100o10oao
@Nikolas100o10oao 12 жыл бұрын
You guys need protective clothing
@XinFuGompa
@XinFuGompa 12 жыл бұрын
@phil7514 The 9 Posts and dummies are set up at the Gompa, Dr, John Painter's Texas Internal arts training facility. As far as a form goes, Jiulong Baguazhang doesn't train any forms. The training progression on the video is an example of the types of training we do to develop the ability to act spontaneously under adverse conditions. Everything you watch me do is unrehearsed. Thanks for watching, Dr. Yancy Orchard
@hectorcesarojeda
@hectorcesarojeda 12 жыл бұрын
Excellent and efective system combat
@santanicolas3057
@santanicolas3057 12 жыл бұрын
great
@NdeTsetSoye
@NdeTsetSoye 13 жыл бұрын
That was cool, you made that look real easy. Just WOW.
@MrWozza99
@MrWozza99 13 жыл бұрын
@XinFuGompa Thanks for the reply! I'll be sure to check out my hardware store and see what I can use. I'm also investing some money in those agility poles football players use. They seem to be multifunctional.
@XinFuGompa
@XinFuGompa 13 жыл бұрын
@MrWozza99 The ones I've used over the years have all been home-made. A few weights on the bottom of an upright pole. An arm can be attached with various couplings, bungees cords, or springs. PVC poles are very useful. Mostly it is an exercise in creativity! I wander around the hardware store and see what sparks an idea. Have fun with it! Dr. Yancy Orchard
@MrWozza99
@MrWozza99 13 жыл бұрын
How would I go about making one of those one-armed dummies?
@ncripzx
@ncripzx 13 жыл бұрын
being the awareness behind body movements enables mind to be silent and power and technique to be enforced
@XinFuGompa
@XinFuGompa 13 жыл бұрын
@Fishpigg That One-Armed Dummy was home-made by my teacher, Dr. John Painter, many years ago. He calls it "Gort." It has gone through several repairs over the years! Dr. Yancy Orchard