Legendary Pink Dots was OG darkwave :)

There's a Gothic Rock and Metal band. I don't remember the name of the band. Very good! I've been searching for this band to this day, and I can't find it since 2009. I remember the clip: in a big house and there are a lot of black Manique, and they are dancers dressed as black mannequins. The CD cover is blue and has a rose, and the vocalist sings a lot, I still look for this band to this day. If anyone can help. Thank you... All CDs have Rose on the cover.

Very good used to go and watch The Stun and Rosetta forgot all about some of these old 90's bands you missed out a few key ones but must of been hard to narrow it down to 10!! Looking back on it were actually pretty spoilt for good Goth bands back in the 90's!!! Here in the UK.

I liked video but it never got to any music theory (except that the songs are in a minor key). I was kinda hoping you'd get into some elements of the songs musically (not just genre categories etc). Love Drab Majesty btw.

5:56 what song is playing here?

i love the way goth looks, but i honestly think almost all goth music sucks. i don't like any of the '"classic" goth albums or artists... maybe, like The Cure is cool? lol the look is amazing but the music... is just kinda beige/olive coloured... and _hella_ depressing.

Investigate further The Sisters of Mercy. Their most goth albums are the ep's The Reptile House and The Temple of Love. Enjoy. Siouxie and the Banshees best for me is the album Thorn.

Tones on tail...perfomance...limbo band between bauhaus and love and rockets...

Roxy music...manifesto

The cure cold great goth music...the 3 first albuns of cure are amazing...

Japan life in tokyo, sisters of mercy lights, roxy music i dont remember the album,

X-mal deustchland at same time of clan of xymox...alien sex find, in another way THE SOUND, BOLSHOI, DANCE SOCIETY, THE DAMNED, are goth in several ways....different but with a touch of goth, and the earlier sisters of mercy in the EPs are more goth, than some goths, Lights is an perfect pré goth song.

Bela lugosi dead was in a movie THE HUNGER, with catherine deneuve, susan sarandon and david bowie, about vampires....so....bauhaus and goth were born.

Blutengel funny goth from germany....

The Wake, from the 90s but very good, NFD, Rubicon and the wright brothers all ancient performers from fields of the nephilim, eden house from fields the mission and others groups ..specialy the female voices, evie vine..etc...funny but some kind of italo disco is goth too...there are so many italian goth bands, and from east europe...

Sisters of mercy before the album first last and always are fantastic ...the EPs...

Dance society, kirlian camera...you check this bands, specialy dance society album heaven is waiting

If you are only considering bands that formed and released an album in the 80's, you need to include Death in June -The Guilty have no Pride. Medusa is a Goth masterpiece.

EEks mal doichland?

I'd rather be dead than be a goth

Lol Eeks Mel Doichland, Let me phonetically say it for you.. EX - MAL DOICHLAND.

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All picks were right on! From 1980 to 85 I dj'ed at punk teenage clubs in Arizona. When the supposed punk kids were trying to be hard core the only music available was the cure, new order, the smiths and the trendy bands as such. I had been listening to CoX, red lorry, Xmal , march violets and virgin prunes since their conception and when I started playing them at the club it was an awakening! Other bands were Divynals and the yachts. Great music from great bands!!!

Excuse me could you make your videos more about the culture and less about you please?

Everyone is unique its just that over the years Goth has become a general term for a Dark persona and less so the original goth-rock scene. I believe its a great honor to have Goth define broader spectrum of darkness unlike say Emo which is very specific. Goth is a feeling and an attitude, ideas and philosophies, the dark side of life. Not just goth-rock. Many people are there for music and friends, their darkness is often so superficial. "I know the history of goth, can name you all the essential bands, like spiders and coffins". Completely missing the mark of being dark in your mindset. Such people view goth as boxes to check and are not creative or alternative for that matter, in a real sense.

Be yourself. Simple as

Very helpful video! I'm making some synthwave-adjacent music and trying to figure out how else to tag it...

I agree totally with your list but think you missed Dead Can Dance ,first album is gothic classic

Twin tribes and midnight darkwave are great bands

Do instrumental artists like Perturbator, Carpenter Brut, and Dance with the Dead count as darkwave?

Another direct link between Punk and Goth is The Cure who were basically a Punk band in their "Killing An Arab" era. Also, The Stooges are from the 1960s and much more of a Proto-Punk band, along with the MC5 and Jonathan Richman.

You got good taste. Rosetta stone are superb.

What would you categorise Molchat Doma?

Dark wave is also characterized by goth crossing over with 90s alternative movements such as shoegaze or with other post punk variants like coldwave or no wave.

First, i loved this vid! Very informative and a great example of how to build a good scene with good intentions. Thank you all! Has there been a revisiting of this podcast? So much has changed with the attitude and approach with building a scene. In San Diego, the more prominent events are riddled with sex/drug trafficking, predatory/exploiting, cliques/favoritism, and a lack of amazing bands. There are also a lot of sabotaging and hypocrisy with putting out an image vs being about good music. If you ever revisit this subject, id love to join. I have a lot of testimonies from people who no longer participate in the scene and former employees of corrupt event promoters.

OMG my favorite band and album Medusa from Clan Of Xymox........she nailed it.

Not my usual genres, i grew up on rock and metal, some rap, but two bands i have been enjoying are She Past Away and DIonnysuss

1. Closer 2. Pornography 3. Elizium 4. Disintegration 5. In the flat field

There was a record album that came out in 1968 that sounded very different from the music that was out at the time. It had a dark ominous organ with heavy guitars and a vocalist with a spooky baritone. The album was a psychedelic rock piece by the band IRON BUTTERFLY and was titled HEAVY. The album art was blue and yellow featuring a butterfly made out of iron, a giant ear made out of stone on a lunar landscape with a starry night sky. The band was pictured performing on this planet around the giant ear. The songs were very commanding and heavy as molasses with titles like, "Possession", "Unconscious Power" & "fields of the Sun" I'm suggesting that this may be one of the first, if not the first, Gothic rock albums. Have you ever heard it? If not, look it up and listen to the songs I mentioned and tell me what you think.

This helps me explain to younger club goers why we didn’t have “genres” in the 80s other than New wave and Industrial and these terms we’re developing as new music was being released back then. I DJ underground 80s music and when I advertise I have ensure I’m labeling my gigs to the terms the younger gen understands. You made a super accurate comments here regarding Clan of Xymox. When their debut record was released in 1985, we didn’t even think what to call it; other than New Wave or a New Music Alternative. Even bands like Ministry were labeled “experimental” before the term industrial was realized. I expected to just swipe through this but it’s educated me and helps me connect the dots for my younger patrons. Thanks!

What do you think of the album 'Mandilion', by the gathering?

Thank you for your interesting Video. I think there is a lot to debate, but at least the love to music, that connects us, is the most important thing 🖤

Really good and compact introduction to the subject. Great work!

Can someone explain to me why deftones has such a cult following among goth heads? Can't put my finger on it?

I love the cure, Depeche mode, bauhaus and grew up listening to this genre of music. I'm also a horror fan with movies and books. I think music is a huge part of goth but it is also art and literature.

Interpol, The Horrors, The Dead Weather 🪐

The problem is that music evolves. So, bands add to the already meaty volume of gothic genres. We used to call it Ethereal.

Great fan play! Touché!

Oh my goth…again…I am ALL THREE of the people you are portraying! It’s like an unholy trinity of my life! It’s like looking in a mirror…if I had a reflection! It is like the gothic Id, Ego and Superego all having a smash down. I am really adoring this video.

Oh no, I have a skater dress like that and like the Killstar look. Will you take my goth card away? I became goth in my teens and I am in my 50s now. :) Those witch hats really protect my skin from the sun!