Hi. Just subscribed. As a fellow Goth, I think your channel is awesome.
@someguy944017 күн бұрын
Awesome vid! Over 50 here. Love all these bands mentioned and grew up idolizing them. Many of my music heroes are only ~10 yrs older than I am, while others like Iggy Pop are the age of my father. IMO newer acts like Drab Majesty and Night in Athens are no less goth than the seminal 80s bands like Sisters of Mercy or Clan of Xymox before them, both lifelong favorites. I never heard the Goth term until the 90s, and it was never mentioned without the Industrial counterpart in that era. This dual-label encompassed a really wide gamut music. Getting to the point: there's a reason that tag clouds won on social media over heirarchies of categories and sub-categories: they're too strict. You can't ever nail down the corner cases. But tags? Tags communicate succinctly. So we should treat genres like tags - not categories. The acts that stick to their own vision end up redefining genres because it's the art that attracts fans and endures in our hearts, not the label. cheers and subbed.
@CadaverKelly17 күн бұрын
@@someguy9440 I love this perspective! Tags are great for digital libraries but I need a system for my vinyl records. 😆 This is where I start sub-categorizing as the collection grows. There is definitely lots of overlap and grey areas in the genres.
@00REEEEE22 күн бұрын
KIrlian Camera first Darkwave Band back in 1981.
@erikwhitney740325 күн бұрын
90's was the best Goth decade
@andyglamrockАй бұрын
It's all minor scales and tonalities
@irvinehunterАй бұрын
every goth top ten should have the Samhain album-november coming fire
@jxfet.mp3Ай бұрын
I feel like Maeve teaching me how to darkwave. I loved it.
@applereagan1720Ай бұрын
tik toth
@goose3246Ай бұрын
Really liked the background story of where the poser therm came from, super interesting ! With the rise of popularity of Goth subculture thanks to Tik Tok entering the community in 2024 is quite challenging even tho I have quite a good knowledge of the music. As myself a 28 year old baby bat music maniac that thrives more towards newer bands but still appreciate OG groups that I use to listen to as a kid, feels like the gatekeeping nowadays is super hardcore online. Kind of afraid to out in the world because of it 😂
@AnonAmouse-d2tАй бұрын
Personally, I only recognize 2 genres: music I like, music I don't like. Keeps it simple.
@CadaverKellyАй бұрын
@@AnonAmouse-d2t A very valid approach! 😊
@穹森Ай бұрын
Hey! 😄I’m a fan from China and I absolutely love your video! I was wondering if it’s cool for me to translate it into Chinese and share it on "Bilibili"? I’ll make sure to give you full credit and link back to the original. Your video is just amazing!
@CadaverKellyАй бұрын
@@穹森 Thank you for watching! You can absolutely translate it and post it. Thanks for asking. 😊
@anthonynguyen4088Ай бұрын
Dead death rocker is a toxic obnoxious elitist
@vultepes68Ай бұрын
I really enjoyed this video! Thank you for making it and doing an excellent job as well. I've been curious about how goth music has evolved and this video answered a lot of my questions and answered some others I didn't even think to ask.
@LouisOrtiz-cb7ggАй бұрын
I make vest and hats ❤
@alanthompson7859Ай бұрын
You said Siouxsie and the Banshees were a post punk band, need to do some more research, they played their debut gig at the punk festival at the 100 club in September 1976 when punk was in full swing
@PEGGLORE2 ай бұрын
The Chameleons are the best gothic post punk band.
@irvinehunter2 ай бұрын
I think the samhain--november coming fire should be on there
@johnghadimi2 ай бұрын
I jumped in thinking this was about actual music theory.. :) BUT was pleasantly surprised and actually learnt a thing or two about genres. To us music geeks, the "theory" moniker has certain connotations.
@Smuffthemagicdragon2 ай бұрын
Fields of the Nephilim, Sisters of Mercy (pre-floodland), March Violets, Skeletal Family, Ghost Dance are my favourites (and the Mission, but were they "goth" or more Led Zepp ?
@FafhrdGrayMouser2 ай бұрын
You need to check out Amon Düül II, the German experimental band. On their 1972 album ‘Wolf City’ is a track called ‘Deutsch Nepal’. Make sure you listen to the record version and not their live version. I dare anyone to tell me that that is not proto-proto-Goth. PS: their whole creative output is just stunning, even though their little venture into Goth was not often repeated.
@davidfromengland71032 ай бұрын
I'd rather be dead than be a goth
@Bluethrottle2 ай бұрын
Dark wave does exactly what it says originally a synth pop side show most famous by Clan of Xymox, the damned ( later work ) sisters of mercy however nowadays, it tends heavily upon the original EBM ( electronic body music ) so more synth pop than the rock originally and sometimes Depeche mode and some other bands like Talk talk are coming eerily close
@johnmchugh80492 ай бұрын
There are some amazing darkwave bands - Metal gets weird sub dividing worse than goth and industrial
@trynafind.lucrexx322 ай бұрын
I know I’m very late but I am just now getting into the goth subculture and music explanations like this one and I feel very lost because maybe some things you explained are a bit complicated and /or detailed.I was wondering what would you suggest to do to start understanding the differences between genres and bands?Like I can’t really tell the difference between new wave, cold wave, dark, wave, synth wave and especially i can’t really explain them and describe them and i want to learn how to☹️🙏🏻
@CadaverKelly2 ай бұрын
Hello! I have this categorized list of band recommendations on my website that may help:
@@CadaverKelly no way I just took a look at it and it really is very helpful, there are so many band mentioned for every genre and the explanation, just what I needed.And I really love even how your site is presented.Thank you really for sharing these videos and a detailed site with explanations with us💜🦇
@DeeL-g2w2 ай бұрын
Legendary Pink Dots was OG darkwave :)
@diegoribeiro62483 ай бұрын
There's a Gothic Rock and Metal band. I don't remember the name of the band. Very good! I've been searching for this band to this day, and I can't find it since 2009. I remember the clip: in a big house and there are a lot of black Manique, and they are dancers dressed as black mannequins. The CD cover is blue and has a rose, and the vocalist sings a lot, I still look for this band to this day. If anyone can help. Thank you... All CDs have Rose on the cover.
@tubeface083 ай бұрын
Very good used to go and watch The Stun and Rosetta forgot all about some of these old 90's bands you missed out a few key ones but must of been hard to narrow it down to 10!! Looking back on it were actually pretty spoilt for good Goth bands back in the 90's!!! Here in the UK.
@billmcnelis59993 ай бұрын
I liked video but it never got to any music theory (except that the songs are in a minor key). I was kinda hoping you'd get into some elements of the songs musically (not just genre categories etc). Love Drab Majesty btw.
@ibuprofenism3 ай бұрын
5:56 what song is playing here?
@cstrongman3 ай бұрын
i love the way goth looks, but i honestly think almost all goth music sucks. i don't like any of the '"classic" goth albums or artists... maybe, like The Cure is cool? lol the look is amazing but the music... is just kinda beige/olive coloured... and _hella_ depressing.
@johnwimberly20893 ай бұрын
Investigate further The Sisters of Mercy. Their most goth albums are the ep's The Reptile House and The Temple of Love. Enjoy. Siouxie and the Banshees best for me is the album Thorn.
@joaoguimaraes49933 ай бұрын
Tones on tail...perfomance...limbo band between bauhaus and love and rockets...
@joaoguimaraes49933 ай бұрын
Roxy music...manifesto
@joaoguimaraes49933 ай бұрын
The cure cold great goth music...the 3 first albuns of cure are amazing...
@joaoguimaraes49933 ай бұрын
Japan life in tokyo, sisters of mercy lights, roxy music i dont remember the album,
@joaoguimaraes49934 ай бұрын
X-mal deustchland at same time of clan of xymox...alien sex find, in another way THE SOUND, BOLSHOI, DANCE SOCIETY, THE DAMNED, are goth in several ways....different but with a touch of goth, and the earlier sisters of mercy in the EPs are more goth, than some goths, Lights is an perfect pré goth song.
@joaoguimaraes49934 ай бұрын
Bela lugosi dead was in a movie THE HUNGER, with catherine deneuve, susan sarandon and david bowie, about vampires....so....bauhaus and goth were born.
@joaoguimaraes49934 ай бұрын
Blutengel funny goth from germany....
@joaoguimaraes49934 ай бұрын
The Wake, from the 90s but very good, NFD, Rubicon and the wright brothers all ancient performers from fields of the nephilim, eden house from fields the mission and others groups ..specialy the female voices, evie vine..etc...funny but some kind of italo disco is goth too...there are so many italian goth bands, and from east europe...
@joaoguimaraes49934 ай бұрын
Sisters of mercy before the album first last and always are fantastic ...the EPs...
@joaoguimaraes49934 ай бұрын
Dance society, kirlian camera...you check this bands, specialy dance society album heaven is waiting
@opsecalpha4 ай бұрын
If you are only considering bands that formed and released an album in the 80's, you need to include Death in June -The Guilty have no Pride. Medusa is a Goth masterpiece.
@carloshernandez26754 ай бұрын
EEks mal doichland?
@davidfromengland71034 ай бұрын
I'd rather be dead than be a goth
@carloshernandez26754 ай бұрын
Lol Eeks Mel Doichland, Let me phonetically say it for you.. EX - MAL DOICHLAND.
@CadaverKelly4 ай бұрын
It actually is pronounced like "eeks." They are a German band. That's how you say X in German.
@Minakimmusic4 ай бұрын
⚰️♏️🦇🧛
@djskum4 ай бұрын
All picks were right on! From 1980 to 85 I dj'ed at punk teenage clubs in Arizona. When the supposed punk kids were trying to be hard core the only music available was the cure, new order, the smiths and the trendy bands as such. I had been listening to CoX, red lorry, Xmal , march violets and virgin prunes since their conception and when I started playing them at the club it was an awakening! Other bands were Divynals and the yachts. Great music from great bands!!!
@Dark_Star-oo8sg4 ай бұрын
Excuse me could you make your videos more about the culture and less about you please?
@CadaverKelly4 ай бұрын
@@Dark_Star-oo8sg No :)
@Dark_Star-oo8sg4 ай бұрын
@@CadaverKelly 😉
@Laura-q2k6p4 ай бұрын
Everyone is unique its just that over the years Goth has become a general term for a Dark persona and less so the original goth-rock scene. I believe its a great honor to have Goth define broader spectrum of darkness unlike say Emo which is very specific. Goth is a feeling and an attitude, ideas and philosophies, the dark side of life. Not just goth-rock. Many people are there for music and friends, their darkness is often so superficial. "I know the history of goth, can name you all the essential bands, like spiders and coffins". Completely missing the mark of being dark in your mindset. Such people view goth as boxes to check and are not creative or alternative for that matter, in a real sense.