Nice video, again! How fast are you normally moving? I'm only 13-15 mph most of the time.
@sc5102dayКүн бұрын
How do you ride so high and not breach? What are tips I seem to ride only close to the water.
@athanasiospapadimitriou7791Күн бұрын
Pump more
@VerdantRide8 сағат бұрын
Sorry, I'm not sure I understand. If I ride too high I absolutely breach. In the scenes where I'm riding high and don't breach it is simply because I didn't ride too high where breaching would happen. Do you have a 28" or 32" mast?
@VerdantRide8 сағат бұрын
Pump what more? The board? It's an efoil, pumping does nothing.
@sc5102dayСағат бұрын
@VerdantRide I ride a Foil inc board 28 inch mast with an armstrong wing setup 1550/220glide ride about 16 to 18mph Just trying to see best way to judge your height on the water
@benhcouk2 күн бұрын
Could not agree more with your comments on the lack of high-performance investment. I just sold all of my Lift gear after being a customer for the best part of 5 years. Im looking for a board that is MUCH lighter and blurs the lines between prone and efoil for wave riding. Im going to try the Fliteboard Ultra L2 (18KG) and keeping an eye on their FliteLab gear also. Lift really seem to have dropped the ball on the performance stuff. Echo the comments on support from Lift. Very rarely have I needed anything but they have always been excellent.
@EfoilWichita2 күн бұрын
Love your videos. Thanks for all your content and info! Tore my ACL and meniscus 3 yrs ago. Stopped my snowboarding/ski/wakeboarding. too rough on the knee. Efoiling works and is easy on the knees and back. Thanks for your videos, always helpful and fun to watch!
@VerdantRide2 күн бұрын
Thanks. I'm glad to be a benefit to my audience.
@NMBowhntr3 күн бұрын
We have been riding two Flite Pro boards on 30” masts with a variety of wings all season. The Flite Controller design is actually genius. It disappears in your hand because you keep the trigger pulled with the base of the index finger like you’re making an “ok” gesture 👌. Then if you want to play around with feathering, you bump up a few gears faster than you want to go and just feather the trigger like normal. Best of both worlds. And I charge mine for an hour about once a month or every ten to 15 rides, and they are still charged above the 50% level. And a $5 camera float strap from Amazon and guess what? They float! Having used both, Flite wins hands down. Lift is just so big and clunky feeling. My opinion is the more the technology disappears so you can get lost in the flow, the better, and Flite Controller in general is superior in that respect. Our first lessons were on Lifts, , and man, I’m glad we didn’t buy that brand. The porposing because of the motor location is so annoying. Everything about the Flite feels higher quality. I mean, a titanium case on the battery, with a BMS on all versions of batteries, not just V4? Battery tech alone makes Flite a brand you really need to investigate. As far as the service, I have a boat shop in Mew Mexico I can take my mast to for service, so that’s a non-issue. Really like the guys at Lift. I’ve never met them, but they seem so cool. But so do the guys in Byron Bay, and sorry, their design is just better. First definitely isn’t the same as best. I’ve seen it in other industries, and seems to be true in this one, too. Best of luck to both companies, competition is healthy, and at the end of the day, getting out on the board and riding is what’s important. Enjoy what you’re riding!
@rudedawg924 күн бұрын
Is there one I can buy that doesn't have fish or fish hooks on it? How about maybe the VerdantRide logo?
@VerdantRide4 күн бұрын
They are fishing shirts, so the hook is kinda their thing. It would be awesome if they made a VR shirt.
@ThierryCiot4 күн бұрын
Have you tried the high aspect ratio wings and do they compare to the camber pro? I'm asking because I am new to efoil but I'm windsurf foiling a lot and have all high aspect ratio wings (650, 950, 1100 and 1350cm2)
@VerdantRide2 күн бұрын
I've got very limited experience with HA. More for wave riding than carving IMO.
@RafaelGarcia-uz1we5 күн бұрын
Dude, besides a lot of the good points you bring up, I totally agree about the LOGO, it's horrible. looks like a really bad tattoo. Design wise, it's just not professional. And you are right, people WILL buy or NOT buy just based on perception, aesthetics and pure looks. Look at APPLE, everything about their products look and feel like how the FUTURE should be, they are artistically beautiful. Lift has a good name, probably as good or better than flite. but their logo looks like a friend of the owner drew it on a napkin while smoking weed and he really liked it and decided that that would be the final logo. Just a really bad decision that unfortunately they have to live for a long time, it's not too late for a redesign but they can never take back that horrible logo that looks like a tramp stamp. I think you are being very nice to tell them these things to their face, I hope they listen to you.
@ScarBear8285 күн бұрын
Now that you’ve ridden the 32 glide more do you think you will stick with that or go back to 36? I mentioned in your other video I have a 46 and 32, they are vastly different. 32 goes faster but 46 turns much better IMO. Wondering if worth getting a 36 glide also or if it’s similar enough to 32 and I should look at a flow or carve… that is my biggest con for lift is trying to figure out the difference between wings before buying. I would have never gotten a 38 surf. Customer service has been great though. I have a battery that is slightly too thick so hatch doesn’t seal. They got me a taller hatch seal tape within 3 days to my door from the day I reached out.
@VerdantRide4 күн бұрын
I love my 36 Glide. It is very very smooth and my favorite pair with both the 160 Camber Pro and 100 Surf V2 specifically for freestyle carving. I have learned to control the 32 Glide (seriously gonna start calling it the "32 S-Glide") and when paired with my 100 Surf V2, I'm nailing the course much tighter and faster than any other wing combo I've tried. So I rank the combos as A. 160 CamberPro/36Glide = Highest G-Force deep banking carves (most smooth and consistent high-speed carves but must maintain momentum due to high drag of the camber) B. 100 SurfV2/36Glide = Most fun and versatile freestyle carver (allows for more variation of speed and maneuvers than all other combos) C. 100SufV2/32S-Glide = Most technically accurate at high speed slalom maneuvers (very digital banking, very limited operable speed tolerance, dropping below about 15mph results in stall, so only useful for racing) These findings are only my own observations based on my riding style, body weight, gravitation forces on my like, etc.Duh! You have a battery that doesn't fit in your freak'n board??? WTF??? - I don't understand. All their batteries are standard size are they not?
@ScarBear8283 күн бұрын
@@VerdantRideapparently they had some batteries come out a few mm to tall. So it hits the top of the hatch when closing and doesn’t allow a proper seal. They gave me 2 options - 1- a new battery or 2- a new seal. In order to get a new battery I would have to show them me exposing of old one by removing gasket and dunking in water. So I went with the new seal that is slightly taller. I haven’t installed it yet as instead I put 1/16in foam tape on the hatch and it now has been bone dry last few rides. Weird issue but they were really quick to respond and get a solution. They already had this taller seal tape (it’s barely taller maybe 1/32in) and said it is a known manufacturing issue that happens sometimes. So anytime someone says their hatch is getting a lot of water see if they are getting battery marks on the hatch lid from pressing into the battery. That’s where I found out my issue. Thanks for the feedback on the wings really appreciate it! 😊
@VerdantRide3 күн бұрын
@@ScarBear828 Whoa! I would have demanded a new battery. That type of manufacturing defect just isn't acceptable.
@mikestephens45895 күн бұрын
Somehow I thought u rode FlighBoard?? Anyways if u have both Lift & Fb, I would love to see a comparison review. Tnx for your great videos & insight.
@VerdantRide5 күн бұрын
Nope… Always been on Lift. I too would like to make a direct comparison with comparable models.
@perdidomar5 күн бұрын
I actually think Lifts emblem is Awesome! I'm not a big fan of Fliteboards. One other thing too is that riding a Fliteboard is loud like riding a skill saw.
@VerdantRide5 күн бұрын
I swear I'm having trouble detecting sarcasm. I know you must be being facetious. I've ridden Fliteboards. I thought they were pretty quiet. Maybe not as quite as my Lift4 Pro, but certainly no saw, skilled or not. Are you a shill? I'm only asking because nobody who admits to liking the Lift logo can be truly unbiased.
@RafaelGarcia-uz1we4 күн бұрын
@@VerdantRide Lift Logo just looks cheap and tacky and disagree about the loudness of flite board, to me they are not as loud as a skill saw and actually the noise is not a problem at all for me. But to each their own, I think if you are from Puerto Rico you probably have some loyalty to lift and I can understand that.
@perdidomar4 күн бұрын
@@VerdantRide Okay Okay, I'm definitely not a shill but I really want to see Lift come out on top. I'm addicted to efoiling and when on, their setup is amazing. The Fliteboard I rode was very loud maybe it was due to a service issue or something I don't know. I do like Lifts logo though. Their outstanding customer service is the reason I'm staying with them for now. I also agree about the trigger. I ride without the governor and like the feather ability.
@VerdantRide4 күн бұрын
@@perdidomar At least on the Fliteboards I've ridden, they didn't at all seem loud. They have a slightly higher pitched whine than Lift that is very hard to hear once the wind starts blowing past your years. I'm sure that the sound is very different depending on what propulsion method you use, board size, and wing and other factors so maybe that is why we had such different experiences. I guess I don't care who comes out on top. I think there's room for both companies to compete with each other. Right now I'm mostly worried that interest in eFoiling will start to drop off before it has a chance to mature. We're the early adopters. We're the guys who get it well before the companies figured out how to position their product for mass appeal. If it doesn't take off this could go the way of the Amiga, the Wetbike, or the Beta Cassette
@carlmast76425 күн бұрын
Every successful startup that I'm familiar with has / had great customer service. I love my LIft 4 + ride daily, but am stunned but the abject lack customer service. No replies on their website or phone. Hope they make it - I love foiling.
@VerdantRide5 күн бұрын
When did you last contact them? I know they are a bit slow with first response but once in the system they resolve issues pretty quickly in my experience. Keep us updated.
@carlmast76425 күн бұрын
Been a few weeks now. I’m still using the loaner battery and bought a lite battery as well.
@VerdantRide5 күн бұрын
@@carlmast7642 You bought a lite battery? Can you still return it? Even Lift seems to have realized they were a shit idea.
@carlmast76425 күн бұрын
Yes - I have a full range and a Lite battery. Works well for me.
@amann12315 күн бұрын
Personally, not my favorite style of message delivery, but damn, content of the message is 100% point; well-done! I sincerely hope Lift hears and listens to your message!
@VerdantRide5 күн бұрын
What is your favorite style of message delivery?
@RafaelGarcia-uz1we4 күн бұрын
@@VerdantRide lol, not sure what he means by that, he is watching your channel after all.
@JKW19626 күн бұрын
I think that you pretty much are on point with all of your observations. Well, maybe I’m not 100% in agreement on the logo opinion, but that’s pretty subjective. This summer I took my Lift Cruiser along on a family week long houseboat stay. Of the 12 of us on the boat, all but 1 tried the efoil and loved it. This includes my wife who tried it for the first time after a year of ownership. AND WE LIVE ON A LAKE! As a result, my brother in law and my nephew are now shopping Lift, and my wife said “we need another board” which we picked up on the road trip home. Additionally, I picked up a Blowfish for the cruiser yesterday to shorten her learning curve because she wants to become proficient and relaxed quickly. Now to my point… I recommend Lift to my family members, bought a second Lift board myself, and the Blowfish, all because of my familiarity with my first board and because of the help I received from Lift (and their local dealer, Houston Kiteboarding) when I had an out of warranty problem. While I still don’t think I made a mistake in my recommendation and my additional Lift purchases, I’ve got to acknowledge the fact that if you remove the admitted bias based on my previous experience with Lift, it’d be hard to not consider Flite. Their marketing is just a little slicker, and their product seemingly a tiny bit more refined. Both Lift and Flite seem to be neck and neck in on the water performance, so that’s a wash. What Lift may do just a bit better is present a grittier “sure were for everyone, but our focus is on the hardcore segment” image than Flite. At least it seems that way to me. While I’m certainly not a hardcore board sports person, I am someone who spent 40 years as a tradesman working with my hands, so I appreciate that image (perceived image?) more than most probably. Are there enough folks like me shopping for an expensive, niche toy to position Lift easily on top through maintaining such an image? Almost certainly not.
@YourLockerzPal6 күн бұрын
I need a Verdant Ride sticker for my rig
@VerdantRide6 күн бұрын
On it. What's your favorite print on demand company? I'll set up some shirts and stickers and stuff!
@JKW19626 күн бұрын
@@VerdantRideI’d be in for a Verdant Ride shirt when you get a merch shop going.
@VerdantRide5 күн бұрын
@@JKW1962 Ok. I'll get to work on selecting a PoD service for some merch.
@_JustinChait_6 күн бұрын
I can 100% tell you for certain you do not need to mail in your board for warranty. If you’re in a location without a service center Flite will train and provide parts. Also definitely important that a certified person works on the efoil. A lot of small details that can cause issues. Also the trigger is long and from personal experience super dialed. There’s light rider mode for small rider who need a softer trigger pull. Also there’s a clock on the controller and sooo many other features. Let’s chat about your next Flite and make sure you’re on the right kit 🏄🏼♂️⚡️
@VerdantRide5 күн бұрын
Have they changed their documentation regarding the warranty? The copy I have doesn't contain any language that says anything remotely similar to, "We'll train you to be an authorized Flite technician capable of maintaining the board and fulfilling all warranty requirements." Can you share the actual documentation that ships with the board regarding the owner's requirements to ensure the warranty will be honored when needed over the first 2 years?
@_JustinChait_5 күн бұрын
@@VerdantRide as a certified Flite service center and partner I know for a fact Flite does this. As far as documents go I’m not sure. Flite is very supportive of their customers. I’ve witnessed nothing but excellent service with warranties and service. Service is required every 100 hours on the series 3 to maintain the 2 year warranty. After 2 years, you should still service the board every 100 hours to keep it working. Think of Flite like a high end sports car. Gotta take care of it to get the top performance. Down to have a conversation with you and go over things
@VerdantRide4 күн бұрын
@@_JustinChait_ You know I respect your knowledge of Flite and the sport of efoiling, but I don't know how to properly handle this as an unbiased efoil news/review source. I hear and believe that you've witnessed Flite taking phenomenal care of their customers, but I'd like to see in writing from the company that I can use as an assurance to my audience that if they buy one and live in some remote location, they won't be needing to drive their board 7 hours to the nearest service center, or shipping their components back and forth with insurance every 100 hours use. I gotta say. I don't love that Flite is so complex that intricate maintenance is required at such regular intervals. Is it seriously every 12 months or every 100 hours, whichever comes first? That means I'd need to send in my board every 33.3 days. That means I'd be without my Flite board thrice in a single summer. That would make it the most high maintenance product I've ever owned and that is just not sustainable. I prefer Lift's method of replacing 1 of 4 major parts that anyone can install quickly to restore function to nearly any problem the board might have. In my experience, every likely problem any Lift board might have can be solved by replacing either the, mast/motor, battery, eBox, or controller. I don't need to send in my gear, I just swap it out with new gear and that is fast, painless, and affordable. If you've got contacts with officials at Flite, I'd love to interview them.
@_JustinChait_4 күн бұрын
@@VerdantRide the service is pretty simple however requires a bit of triaining… if details are missed it could cause issues. Just imagine 11000 boards on the market with untrained servicemen. Doesn’t make sense. What you’re getting from Flite is a bomb proof design that works flawlessly as long as you take care of it. Lift imo is a basic engineered efoil. No different than a diy efoil, just with some nice finishes. Flite on the other hand will literally run forever as long as the seals, oil and bearings are replace regularly. Jet skis require service every 50-100 hours and so do most boats. Because you live in a remote location you would be a candidate for training and be able to order your own parts and do the maintenance yourself. Every ev needs maintenance. The reality is you can go a long time before noticing any wear and tear. By the time you do notice wear in an ev,it’s too late. One ride on my ultra and you’d be smiling ear to ear ready to learn how to work on a Flite 😉
@SurferBobbyLew6 күн бұрын
Totally agree it’s like they don’t even care or want it. They nailed it with the basic controller got the more expensive one and hate the throttle but used it because I feel like I have to I spent money on it haha. Love their logo wouldn’t dwell too much on that people’s views on beauty is varied and at this point they can’t change because it’s association with their brand which is what you want. It looks like this video was meant for LIFT so I’ll piggy back my message to them is release the darn battery LED fault code guide! Why so guarded it makes me hate you for it? It’s so simple release it make it available! Everything else you have done in the past has been in such good faith to your customers. You generosity and support is literally legendary but some of us don’t want you to give us free stuff without knowing what the actual issue is ourselves!! I want you guys to win and I don’t want to always cost you if I can figure out myself!
@VerdantRide5 күн бұрын
Branding can always be changed. They could also brand their eFoil lines separately from their Foilboards, and their company in general. Logos can be changed at the will of the company and if properly launched, it can be done successfully. Most companies update their branding with reasonable regularity to remain current. If you make a logo that could be confused with a mega-church, it can be off-putting to those who may wish to communicate to others, "I'm into this awesome emerging sport and this is the brand I ride, but don't want to be confused for a religious zealot." Their font is the cursive version of Comic Sans and it reeks of all the signs associated with an immature designer. This logo needs to change and it isn't a matter of opinion, it is a matter of putting it in front of a focus group and finding out if it helps promote or confuse the product identity and company values. The Lift logo lacks cool, and cool is needed if you want your customer base to promote your brand.
@SurferBobbyLew5 күн бұрын
@@VerdantRide I concede you are right but the Brand Logo is the least important factor to me but maybe im biased because I actually like the logo? Id rather focus on all the other points and specifically a lime green innovation instead of a v5 isnt going to cut it against Fliteboards pace and apparent hunger in this space.
@VerdantRide5 күн бұрын
@@SurferBobbyLew I'm good enough at multi-tasking to handle multiple topics simultaneously. The logo is one of the things that matter and if it didn't matter, companies wouldn't spend 10s of thousands of dollars designing and ensuring they are aligned across all business channels. I don't know what you are referencing when you say, "v5/lime green…" As far as I can tell, there is no v5 in any color.
@SurferBobbyLew4 күн бұрын
@@VerdantRide I know you are an incredible multitasker but was hoping could align focus the message to the recipient Lift that does not have infinite resources multi tasking and ability to equally do everything perfectly like yourself. I love their logo, and hate flites, but it meant so little to me that I simply wanted to concede this trivial aspect relative to the other principal factors you brought up that will bring down Lift. Otherwise we are arguing about very subjective tastes that arent that important to kicking ass, and ripping it up and actually having a great experience with the product. Also YES the v5 does not exist it was again facetious, sarcasm at Lifts recent major announcement of a lime green board (v4) instead of a v5 to keep pace with Flite. I have been playfully referring to it as a v5. Points we can all agree on: 1) Lift continues their legendary reputation of good faith which means when you F up you own it always. Be totally transparent with customers this includes point in your video if valid and my person want release the troubleshoot codes!! 2) Better marketing examples of their product uses. The highlight for me isnt walking down to the beach carrying it as you pointed out. Sponsor local events at major lakes. Im the efoiler on Lake Allatoona, im repping for you Lift everyday in every conservation daily on the water for free because I believe in you and want you to succeed. It would great if you could sponsor some local events or help me do that for you. Right now I literally give lessons for free to interested people because humans are awesome! 3) You either need to keep pace with flite from an innovation perspective or you need to take the v4 and make it bulletproof. Id buy a model T over newer and shinier if I knew it was bulletproof and trouble free forever. Maybe do both would be even better.
@VerdantRide4 күн бұрын
@@SurferBobbyLew Sounds good to me. Still, I'll probably keep tell them to get a new logo.
@Rocketpax6 күн бұрын
My understanding is the Fliteboard service requirement is for 100 hours. The mast gets sent in by itself. I think without the prop and guard is ok as well. It can also be serviced by Flite service centers. I believe the service cost is around $200USD. Not nearly the burden you describe in this video but it’s not nothing either. I believe most of the service centers around checking the health of the motor and gearbox(Lift does not have a gearbox). My biggest problem is that they do not make the servicing instructions, parts, or tools readily available which I hate. In fact the authorized service centers make a big stink about how the training to perform the service is covered under NDA and other bullshit. I bought a Fliteboard Air Pro anyway so hopefully that posture changes.
@kyleoem6 күн бұрын
I've been wondering what Cody from "Sister Wives" show has been doing since filming ended.
@VerdantRide5 күн бұрын
Your comment is lost on me. I have zero knowledge of reality programming because me too smart to watch unscripted programming.
@barnabasseadog76606 күн бұрын
It's already happening. I want to get into efoils. Clearly Lift and Flightboard are the leaders. I know it all started with Lift and Fliteboard later entering the market with an emphasis on Efoil safety and the entire experience. I just pulled the trigger on an Fliteboard Air Pro for under $8K. New setup with warranty for a used price. Flite is innovating more and expanding the sport in every direction at the expense of Lift.
@rainusvideos4576 күн бұрын
Hi Stephan Love your videos! I am still in evaluation process to buy a board. I agree with most of your points!
@VerdantRide6 күн бұрын
Glad you like them!
@Holy_Truth_Man6 күн бұрын
7:14 lightning 7:51 too)
@VerdantRide5 күн бұрын
8:10
@SurferBobbyLew7 күн бұрын
I ride hard, in waves, you don’t have control of board and yourself in the washing machine when you inevitably at some point will wipe out…. I’ve had two major hospital overnight stays with efoils. I told the doctors exactly what it was they seemed very interested but I doubt they remembered to log in as an efoil - likely categorized as surf or dinghy.
@VerdantRide7 күн бұрын
Whoa! Stay well man! Are you comfortable sharing the details of the specific types of injuries you sustained? I'm interested.
@SurferBobbyLew6 күн бұрын
@@VerdantRide Fortunately none involved the wing or prop... still dreading the day that happens. Just a matter of time and opportunites. Both involved kissing the rail... its essentially a 60lb carbon fiber baseball bat if you either flip and then fall into or violent water (double overhead) force feeds the rail into your mouth ..... the end result is oral Maxillofacial Reconstructive Surgery and orthodontics. The blowfish came a little bit late im afraid got for each one of my boards wouldve never happened if utilized but probably wouldnt have sacrificed the performance without the lesson ;-)
@SurferBobbyLew7 күн бұрын
This aged terribly…. LIFT just announced the new Lift v5 board!!! …….Aka as v4 in lime green. RIP Lift will rock my v2, v3 and v4 until all components fail in a couple years
@SurferBobbyLew6 күн бұрын
facetious ;-)
@VerdantRide6 күн бұрын
@@SurferBobbyLew Figured that out but it took me a beat or two to do that. :D
@ScarBear8289 күн бұрын
Ha - I thought the same thing when I got the 32. Curious on your opinion between that and the 36. I had a 38 surf so went with 32 when it went on sale. I really like it with the 210 camber. I also have a 46 glide for when I take the kids out on blowfish with me just to add some extra stability since I’m not carving much with them on it and have like up to 260lbs on the foil when they are with me.
@VerdantRide9 күн бұрын
Yeah. Lift is one of those companies that does the hard stuff pretty well but really drops the ball on the easy stuff, like writing functional descriptions or taking photographs of the products with the angles necessary to properly inform their customers what they are buying.
@perdidomar9 күн бұрын
The 33 carve has some serious wing uptips.
@VerdantRide9 күн бұрын
I wanna try the 33 Carve. I wish that is what the 32 Glide was.
@user-yz4wd6np5v10 күн бұрын
How do you get so good audio? And is it insta 360 camera?
@VerdantRide10 күн бұрын
If I tell you, will you subscribe to Verdant Ride?
@onion.express11 күн бұрын
I guess it's not possible for light wind wingfoiling because you have to pump. With front feet placed off the middle line you'll push in the wrong place. Not to mention pumpfoiling. But it's great for efoil and wingfoil on high wind days, when you don't have to pump to get out of the water.
@VerdantRide10 күн бұрын
Yeah… I think due to the weight and speed and likelihood of up-kick due to the location of the propulsion, I'm more likely to use a safer stance with efoiling than all my other board sports. Like I said in the video, I ride midline for everything else.
@michaelvadney580311 күн бұрын
Very creative dude. I take it that your video skills are skills that you use in your professional life. Really nice work and a ton of work at that. As for the stance I completely agree. Self taught with some KZbin help and in the beginning 6 - 10 hours I tried a bunch of things and when I had a centerline stance the board would roll quickly underneath you and you would just come straight down it. Just lucky didn't hit the wing hard. Lucky. I banged myself up so much that I ended up wearing shin guards for my forearms and padded mesh shorts for snow boarding over my swim suit. I got better and so that's gone. I still don't go much beyond half power, but I am trying your carving tricks to speed up my S-turns so thanks. Your video on the Kaper Call won't work for a GetFoil board as there is a safety limit built into the remote's connection to the board. It will cut out if you are like 10' or so away from the board. Too bad. I could see that as a cool way to get back to the board quickly. Thanks for the videos!
@VerdantRide11 күн бұрын
Yeah, I've got some film-making skills in my past but shooting stuff like this is more just holding a pole where the camera should be. Anyone can do it with the Insta 360 cams and any decent video editing package. My professional life is spent more in strategic execution than in content creation but once amass these skills you never really lose them. AI is getting much better so it is possible to tell a decent story with just a few hours of work that would have taken a week just a few years ago. GetFoil closed this year right? Are you pretty confident you'll be able to perform your own repairs and keep your board rolling for the foreseeable future? Can you put other wings on it?
@michaelvadney580311 күн бұрын
Yep, GetFoil folded. I haven't tried other boards so I can't really rank them. GetFoil was the only US company and it seems to be a good product. They just never had the market base anywhere near what was needed to keep the company afloat. Pretty bummed. No more support, no replacement parts from them. Some of their parts suppliers (China) has popped up and started selling those left over inventories like wings. There is a FB community group that is a self help group. I've used their help to solve some water intrusion issues with my remote. Other aspects are addressed there as well. I believe though that I will probably be getting a new Efoil in time. I was looking at a free spinning prop or a jet drive on a Flightboard. Maybe a Air Pro. I now have two season on a board. I'm not that good at it, but I'm getting there.
@jd_238511 күн бұрын
Last summer I was using collapsible prop on Lift 3. Board slipped out from me when going through boat waves and SLASHED my shin deep. Had to e foil back to beach then drive to hospital. 8 stitches. Lucky it wasn’t my neck or I wouldn’t be writing this. I’ve used lift jet ever since.
@VerdantRide11 күн бұрын
I've got this rule that I won't got to the ER on weekends in the summer so I keep an Insorb subcutaneous absorbable skin stapler around for just such an occasion. I've never needed it for eFoil related issues but it has saved me from spending a whole day waiting around in an ER a couple of times now.
@VerdantRide4 күн бұрын
Got a question for you about the folding prop… I'm considering a show comparing the safety of a gliding prop vs a breaking prop. Would you say that a gliding prop (like the folding, free spinning etc. props made for unpowered wave riding) is more likely to hit their riders especially when falling off the front of the board? I ask because whenever I get flung off the front of the board like during an unexpected powerloss event, my board stops DEAD in the water and usually dives it's nose causing it to stop so fast that is like SUPER BREAKS. So I never get hit by my own board.
@perdidomar11 күн бұрын
Mr. Ride, Awesome video as usual. BTW you were right about my controller. Water breached it and it was sending erroneous signals to my eBox causing it to start the motor involuntarily. Lift has taken care of me and sent a new controller. Also, I tried out my 160 Camber Pro (thanks to recommendations in your videos) and it is awesome!! I'm running the 33 carve tail wing with fuselage extender. Looking forward to more instruction. Thanks,
@VerdantRide11 күн бұрын
I just tested the 32 Glide. You'll get the show on Sunday. It's actually just a Surf. No curved wingtips like the 36 Glide. I had to do a bunch of investigation to figure that out.
@danaoviatt3111 күн бұрын
I’m a winger and previously a kite foiler. All the coaching, and KZbin vids encourage midline stance. Any thoughts?
@VerdantRide11 күн бұрын
Do whatever you want. This is what I recommend for the reasons I recommended it. If you like riding midline, ride midline. Whatever benefits I might get from riding midline aren't as important to me as the ability to choose my departure course from the board and I've gotten quite competent at riding staggered so I'm going to keep riding staggered. Every once in a while I play around with midline and other modified stances and other than letting me use much smaller movements with my ankles and my knees to initiate a turn, I think that it doesn't offer anything as powerful as not getting injured. I don't really know what more you want me to say other than what I've already said. I guess I could provide kinesiology ROM on various stances if you'd like. Here, this is evidence that a staggered stance provides the greatest range of motion. These are what's considered a normal human range of motion as measured by goniometer. Your results may vary… I know mine do. :P Hip ROM (Degrees) Stance Flexion/Extension Abduction/Adduction Internal/External Rotation Midline 120/30 20/30 30/40 Staggered 130/30 30/40 40/60 Wide 120/30 45/50 30/40 Knee ROM (Degrees) Stance Flexion Extension Internal/External Rotation Midline 135 0 10/30 Staggered 135 5-10 10/40 Wide 140 0 10/30 Ankle ROM (Degrees) Stance Dorsiflexion/Plantarflexion Inversion/Eversion Midline 20/45 15/20 Staggered 25/45 20/25 Wide 25/45 20/25 Summary of Total ROM for Critical Movements We can sum the ROM for each critical movement based on each stance to provide a comparison: Midline Stance: Hip: (120 + 30) + (20 + 30) + (30 + 40) = 270 degrees Knee: 135 + 0 + (10 + 30) = 175 degrees Ankle: (20 + 45) + (15 + 20) = 100 degrees Total: 545 degrees Staggered Stance: Hip: (130 + 30) + (30 + 40) + (40 + 60) = 330 degrees Knee: 135 + 5 + (10 + 40) = 190 degrees Ankle: (25 + 45) + (20 + 25) = 115 degrees Total: 635 degrees Wide Stance: Hip: (120 + 30) + (45 + 50) + (30 + 40) = 315 degrees Knee: 140 + 0 + (10 + 30) = 180 degrees Ankle: (25 + 45) + (20 + 25) = 115 degrees Total: 610 degrees Conclusion Staggered Stance: Total ROM = 635 degrees Wide Stance: Total ROM = 610 degrees Midline Stance: Total ROM = 545 degrees From these calculations, the Staggered Stance offers the greatest total range of motion, providing the most flexibility for selecting the safest side to depart from the board. The Wide Stance also offers substantial ROM and stability, making it a very good option as well. The Midline Stance provides the least ROM, making it less ideal for quick lateral movements required in eFoil dismounting. Perhaps someday I'll load all this into Houdini so we can visualize the simulation, but not right now. It's summer, and I don't spend 10-20 hours doin anything that feels like work when I could be surfing, sleeping, eating, or fucking. Know what I'm saying? :D
@snowindirt11 күн бұрын
Another cool video! Thank you for sharing. I learned to eFoil with the staggered stance. I'm also learning how to wing foil and wingers use a staggered stance generally as well. Last December I suffered my worst eFoil injury to date due to a trigger failure (aka loss of bluetooth between board and controller). For me those are the worst wipe outs and usually end up with a big time face plant. Usually you also end up being thrown directly in front of the board and that time was no different for me. I've naturally learned to shield my face with my arms and it was a good thing as the board launched out of the air when I came off and would have nailed me right in the face. Instead, it hit my left arm and I ended up with a completely fractured ulna. My wetsuit top may have prevented a full compound fracture. I also got a major hematoma on my left hip which actually at the time hurt more than the arm. It was close to three months before I gopt back on the board again. BTW: I also ride the 4'2" Pro board with the 160 Camber Pro with the 32 Glide tail. Have you tried the 32 and if so why do you like the 36 more? I have the 36 Glide in my quiver but have not tried with the 160 Camber Pro. I'm now thinking about trying the new Havoc 121 wing. Thanks for putting out your videos on eFoiling.
@VerdantRide11 күн бұрын
Bummer about the crash. Yes, I ordered a 32 Glide and was really surprised that is didn't match the same, "Glide Profile" I'm used to with my 36 Glide with upturned wingtips. The 32 Glide they shipped me matches the same profile as my Surf stabs. I think the reason they dropped the price on the 24 & 32 Glide is because they either had a misprint or just poor brand planning. I wrote Lift about this and got the most non-answer possible from their marketing agency. I wrote them two more times and got no response, so I'm pretty much left with, they are dumping a misprinted/mis-manufactured product without actually telling their customers about it. I MUCH prefer the curved wing tips on my 36 Glide. Way smoother! Is your 32 Glide flat or does it have upturned wingtips?
@snowindirt10 күн бұрын
@@VerdantRide My 32 Glide is flat just like the surf tails. I figured that was the reason they were being discontinued as well. If you're ever down in the Jupiter Fl area hit me up. I'll show you some cool spots to eFoil!
@VerdantRide10 күн бұрын
@@snowindirt Sounds great! I'm actually currently looking for pals especially in the warmer states where I can hook up for some rides this winter. So thanks for the invitation. The Glide series confusion seems super strange to me and when I started investigating and the response I got from Lift's agency that answered my inquiry made it even stranger. It lead me to a whole show about this and some other issues I found lacked the transparency I wished I'd discovered.
@onion.express15 күн бұрын
Will there be a full version video of why is that safer? I don’t really get how this stance helps not flipping the board, nor does that work only for efoil 🤔
@VerdantRide12 күн бұрын
Yes, but I'm in in KZbin jail for a few more days because I got a strike for trying to show some of the injuries I found caused by riders hitting the mast and prop.
@VerdantRide11 күн бұрын
It up. Check the feed.
@onion.express11 күн бұрын
@@VerdantRide Thanks! gonna check it :D
@controlsfreek16 күн бұрын
Board doesn't get scratched and banged up? Especially with boat wakes and windy days? Looks cool though. Better then carrying it up on shore every time.
@VerdantRide16 күн бұрын
A. Don't really care about scratches BUT… B. It's a floating dock so it goes up and down as the water goes up and down. C. Private lake, hardly any traffic at all. You might notice that most times you see me ride in my vids I'm literally the ONLY person on the lake. D. I don't leave my board there. We just use it on beach days when lots of people are taking the boards out so that we have a safe place to park them and launch them when they feel like doing so. The longest I've left them there unattended is maybe an hour and a half while we were up on the deck having dinner. They have always been fine when we returned. I think as long as their batteries are in them, they are heavy enough to stay put. If they don't have batteries in them I bring them up on the dock and leave them upside down and throw a beach blanket over them to keep them from getting too much of a UV tan.
@poboy670417 күн бұрын
No breaching?
@VerdantRide16 күн бұрын
This response was provided by the Verdant Ride GPT: chatgpt.com/g/g-fwDABnTTY-verdant-ride-efoil-news-reviews-advice 🤖 --- Hey @poboy6704! Thanks for watching the "How to Carve Like a God" episode. When you mention "No breaching?" it sounds like you're referring to the hydrofoil wing breaching the water's surface during a carve. Breaching occurs when the hydrofoil wing comes out of the water, which can cause instability and potentially throw the rider off balance. ### Tips to Avoid Breaching While Carving: 1. **Mast Length**: Use a longer mast (Stephan uses 32 inches) for more clearance between the wing and the water's surface. This extra length helps prevent the wing from breaching during deeper carves. 2. **Weight Distribution**: Maintain proper weight distribution over the board. Keep your weight centered (front to back) and adjust smoothly when transitioning from one carve to another. Centering balance going into a turn allows you to adjust either forward or back depending on the need to gain lift or dive to keep your board at the proper height. 3. **Speed Control**: Manage your speed using the handheld remote. Carving at a controlled speed helps maintain stability and reduces the risk of breaching. 4. **Smooth Movements**: Make smooth, gradual shifts in weight and direction. Sudden or jerky movements can cause the foil to breach or the board to hit the surface of the water. 5. **Wing Selection**: Use a wing setup that provides higher speed turns without too much lift, such as the 100 Surf V2 front wing and 36 Glide stabilizer. These are great for carving and reducing the risk of breaching. If you're experiencing breaching, try these tips and see if they help. Let us know if you have more questions or need further clarification! Happy eFoiling! 🤙
@eFoilLakePowell22 сағат бұрын
This is like advising against drifting in a car. Beginners shouldn't do it, but to suggest it should be avoided outright is not ok. Breaches, specifically wingtip breaches, Wing outs, wing salutes, tip rips, and other names for it; show mastery in control and are a natural product of deep hard carves. Not only that, like drifting, they look absolutely radical (but maybe not to everyone. It can also be a bit of a style thing too) Mast length not only helps with avoiding breaches but also aids in doing them too. Better yet, USEABLE mast length will facilitate deeper carves and better wing outs. For example, the Lift 32" mast *total length* is slightly longer than Flite 80 cm mast but has less usable length than even the Flite 75 cm mast. Because Lift motor is elevated above the bottom of the mast it loses 3 - 4 inches of clearance which is huge in the foiling world, especially when performing breaches. The longer the mast the greater the chances of falling in the wings as your original injury images showed. Flite and other unibody fuselage drives have greater clearance while having a shorter (or equal) total length in regards to safety. The longer useable length can carve at greater angles before there is a threat of losing thrust from the propulsion. Or the edge of the board touching down. This isn't to say there are no advantages to a separate drive, but on this topic of breaches, there are none. This isn't to say that breaches are not possible on Lift and other brands with elevated motors. There's also a limit to how long a mast can be before there are other problems. Just so others know I have extensive experience with Waydoo and (get)FOIL, as well as riding time on Lift, and Flite. Wing size and shape also plays a huge factor as well as propulsion type and shape. Throttle controller etc. Salute your wingtips 🪽💦🫡 and Live Life to the Foilest whatever and however you ride. It's always magical
@poboy670422 сағат бұрын
I love breaching. 900 flow with a long mast. Sharp breaches and also drifting breaches. So much fun
@eFoilLakePowell20 сағат бұрын
@@poboy6704 💯. I hope to try a newer Flite with that wing. I keep hearing it's 🔥. I was on an older 2 series with flyer 800. Wing outs were sketchy on that one but ✅ nonetheless. GetFOIL - wing outs ✅ Lift - wing salute ✅ Waydoo - tip rips ✅
@DIVEindotcom-boating18 күн бұрын
Gonna have to practice this one a bit before it'll work for me in the ocean, I think. Nice one VR
@VerdantRide15 күн бұрын
Go for it!
@ghostmedical18 күн бұрын
From the Verdant Ride Facebook account: Sorry folks, I've been grounded by KZbin because I went into some pretty deep details explaining the research I've completed on efoil-related injuries, both description and images. I kinda figured this might happen with the video I was launching today but decided to go ahead with it anyway because according to their rules you can show graphic stuff as long as you explain the graphic stuff for educational purposes which I thought I'd done pretty well. Well… I guess I'll take my 7 days in KZbin jail to rework this content and sterilize it so that nobody gets triggered and bank up some other shows. So no shows till the 14th, I guess. Expect a heavy release frequency toward the seasons end.
@VerdantRide12 күн бұрын
One more day in KZbin jail
@ghostmedical18 күн бұрын
From the Verdant Ride Facebook account: Sorry folks, I've been grounded by KZbin because I went into some pretty deep details explaining the research I've completed on efoil-related injuries, both description and images. I kinda figured this might happen with the video I was launching today but decided to go ahead with it anyway because according to their rules you can show graphic stuff as long as you explain the graphic stuff for educational purposes which I thought I'd done pretty well. Well… I guess I'll take my 7 days in KZbin jail to rework this content and sterilize it so that nobody gets triggered and bank up some other shows. So no shows till the 14th, I guess. Expect a heavy release frequency toward the seasons end.
@VerdantRide12 күн бұрын
Should be able to post tomorrow.
@perdidomar18 күн бұрын
Thanks Mr. Ride. A little update on my Lift adventures. Just got back on the water yesterday and this evening. Unfortunately, I have a new Lift problem. My controller appears to have water ingress and my ebox involuntary starts the motor which almost caught my fingers. Now I'll have to email Lift again to solve my issues. Don't get me wrong their customer service has been outstanding, but I've only been a customer since February, and I've been through a replacement battery and board due to defects. Have you had similar issues? At this point I'm considering compiling all my gear to sell it so I can buy a Fliteboard.
@VerdantRide18 күн бұрын
I don't blame you. These are very strange errors. I've had 2 battery replacements out of 3 boards, 1 eBox replacement to fix my loud running Lift3 Pro after trying to fix it with a new mast/motor, and my first remote lost its spring which they fixed by shipping me 2 controllers. I was able to fix the original with a replacement spring so now I've got spares galore. I wonder if your motor running is related to your remote or your ebox. Only Lift could say for sure. Sorry to hear you are having issues.
@controlsfreek20 күн бұрын
You missed a few steps.... Carry the board down from the car.... Carry the power system case and wing down from the car... Unzip bags, mount mast, mount wing, flip over, insert battery 😂 I like your setup. Much easier than having to break down after every day or even every run!
@VerdantRide20 күн бұрын
1. I almost never transport my board by car. 2. I never use the bags. 3. I never detach my mast even when transporting by car. I can fit 2 rides without removing the masts just fine in my hatchback. 4. I did insert the battery, I pulled it out of a box I keep on the dock at the same time I stored the wing protector sleeve.
@controlsfreek20 күн бұрын
@@VerdantRide I'm jealous of your setup! I have a place to ride that is a 15 minute drive away. Doesn't fit in the back of my jeep cherokee with the mast on & wing off. So annoying. Recently put a roof rack on for our thule, so I'll try transporting on the roof rack next time. I've only had my board for a little over a month and have really enjoyed your videos. Keep it up!
@Stoppelhopser0120 күн бұрын
Happy to stay next to the water. 😂…I have also to do the full setup. And again to drive home..
@tomcwind21 күн бұрын
hey Stephan i agree weeds suck, rake that weed turn or move it deeper water. a standing foil start would been more exciting. all in all looked like a fun day. i have watched a lot of your videos at the lake you live on. where is the lake and do you teach lessons?.....tom
@VerdantRide20 күн бұрын
I ride in Stillwater MN and no I don't give lesson but Zen Watersports does and has on my lake. I'm considering conducting a race on my lake next season.
@mrcontrolled21 күн бұрын
It's super inspiring to see you ride! The 160 indeed refers to the surface area, but in square inches
@VerdantRide15 күн бұрын
You are correct. I've had a stern conversation with the Verdant Ride GPT for getting that wrong. :D
@joshgriffin298721 күн бұрын
Ng
@VerdantRide20 күн бұрын
This response was provided by the Verdant Ride GPT: chatgpt.com/g/g-fwDABnTTY-verdant-ride-efoil-news-reviews-advice 🤖** Hey Josh, thanks for watching! It looks like your comment might have been cut off or a typo. Feel free to share your thoughts or questions about getting the board ready-I'd love to hear them! 🤙 -All attempts to translate your response to English have failed.
@jd_238522 күн бұрын
Houston Kiteboarding on you tube has done a huge amount of wing combos. Great dude, talked to him once. Check em out. Your take on the Camber series 160 has me ordering one right now.
@VerdantRide21 күн бұрын
Hope you love it! What are you pairing it with? 🤠
@ausgedgallagher23 күн бұрын
Not sure what I was looking at, but neither impressive nor interesting carving footage that's for sure. I think you need to take some lessons from Simon Axmann, a German engineer living in Byron Bay Australia who works for Fliteboard. Now this guy can carve! And, make it look fun and entertaining at the same time! kzbin.info/www/bejne/d2G4qqOEhbNrkM0si=vBRJ5aIqImYkTjMG
@VerdantRide23 күн бұрын
You guys like doing the premiere chat? Should I keep launching at the same bat time on the same bat channel in the same bat way?
@bouldernow24 күн бұрын
This is the best video I’ve seen on how carve e-foil tuns!!! I’ve looked for hours!
@VerdantRide24 күн бұрын
Thanks man! I'm glad you dig.
@perdidomar24 күн бұрын
Mr. Ride, I ordered the 160 Camber Pro and it's on its way. I'm looking forward to getting back into the water soon once I heal up from a recent surgery. Anyway, my setup will be the 5'4" cruiser with the 160 Camber Pro and a 33 carve tail wing with the fuselage extender. From what I've researched the extender makes my setup similar to the 32 Glide. Do you agree with this? Anyway, I'm looking forward to riding again and also to more videos. Thanks for the vids!
@VerdantRide24 күн бұрын
I just tried the 32 Glide tonight for the first time. I was a bit surprised that it didn't have curved tips like my 36 Glide. It is actually just flat like the Carve stabs. Lift really needs to working their series naming/branding. Lighting strikes just over the hill scared me off the water before I could really put the right amount of time into the ride say for sure, but it is faster. I do think I missed the slipperiness of those curved wingtips though. Let me get another few rides in before I say for sure. I'd suspect that your 33 carve tail will likely perform closely to the 32 Glide given that they are very similar. Still, I suggest you give the 36 Glide a try if you should not find the 33 Carve to your liking.