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@ermano58
@ermano58 4 күн бұрын
Not billy bonney , whoever that man is has attached ears , billys earlobes were detached but nice try !!
@joegross247
@joegross247 7 күн бұрын
Billy the Kid and Doc Scurlock were supposed to be roughly the same height. There is clearly 5"-6" between the two you believe to be them.
@samyoung3592
@samyoung3592 9 күн бұрын
nope
@hyena61
@hyena61 17 күн бұрын
C'mon people ... With all of these supposed photos of Billy the Kid and company ... if they spent this much time getting photos of themselves how were they able to get away from the law that was constantly chasing them ? There is only 1 verified photo of Billy and that should stand !!!
@chilipequin6351
@chilipequin6351 17 күн бұрын
I want some DNA evidence before I believe brushy Bill is Billy the kid! No offense!
@elchoya8432
@elchoya8432 18 күн бұрын
looks like jesse james,black bart and kid sheleen
@srp960
@srp960 24 күн бұрын
The one you say is Biily the Kid has a smaller chin.
@ultramagahoosierhermit2767
@ultramagahoosierhermit2767 25 күн бұрын
Nice pic. Not BTK
@larrynoller3014
@larrynoller3014 Ай бұрын
There was no “O” in Tom’s last name. His middle initial was “o”
@DarkMatterX1
@DarkMatterX1 Ай бұрын
That dude in the middle looks nothing like the 2 authenticated photos of Henry McCarty.
@AaronBabcock-nx2un
@AaronBabcock-nx2un Ай бұрын
The guy on the right , his hat is like Billy’s main authentic picture. Slant at the top, like the rough riders.
@michaelperks8607
@michaelperks8607 Ай бұрын
The kid was only like 5'8 looks too tall. How tall were tom and doc said to be?
@CaleBrooks-kr9fr
@CaleBrooks-kr9fr Ай бұрын
No,no,no. Doc and billy were both 5'8", nice try.
@jonathanbonar775
@jonathanbonar775 Ай бұрын
Thats highly unlikely Doc. Look at the ear loobs of the known picture of him as as older man. His ear loobs are much larger and unattached. In this photo the man on the right has attached ear loobs. That feature never changes .
@TheFactorySealedCollector.
@TheFactorySealedCollector. Ай бұрын
If that is real it has to be priceless. What a prize 🏆
@goodvibes5603
@goodvibes5603 Ай бұрын
Middle guy ears look like BB and the famous BTK photo . Cool video
@tombrady9385
@tombrady9385 Ай бұрын
I’ll take that photo for $1M. Where do I send the check.
@GameCreatorOfGod
@GameCreatorOfGod Ай бұрын
I can do it, I will do it. Gimp is my best friend.
@davidwarman4290
@davidwarman4290 2 ай бұрын
Wasn’t Tom meant to have been quite tall??
@lburnstein196
@lburnstein196 2 ай бұрын
The only thing is Tom o follard was easily 6 foot tall if not more..so how could that be Tom when Billy was 5 foot 9
@deepsqueakdigger3728
@deepsqueakdigger3728 2 ай бұрын
Hate to burst your bubble... but you are wrong on just about everything from a historical aspect! BTK (5'8ish) was NOT taller than Tom or Scurlock! PERIOD! And Toms last name was Folliard, NOT with an 'O!' The O was his middle initial! Tom was quite tall ...roughly 6 ft. Scurlock was slightly taller than Tom! AND FINALLY... Scurlock's buckle was NOT hit at Balzers Mill... Charlie Bowdre's was .... ... and George Coe lost his right index/trigger finger that day, and Richard Brewer was killed!
@DarkMatterX1
@DarkMatterX1 Ай бұрын
Scurlock was about the same height as Billy, 5'8" or 9". Average for the time.
@kenwheatley1781
@kenwheatley1781 2 ай бұрын
Tom Folliard was a big guy, bigger than Billy. That is neither Billy or Tom Folliard.
@TheSpaghetti64
@TheSpaghetti64 2 ай бұрын
Red flag. Tom O'Folliard was tall. Keep trying to convince yourself. There's no prominence to the photo.
@EvanRichards-xy8ew
@EvanRichards-xy8ew 2 ай бұрын
Not a red flag when you look close! He’s not standing straight with one leg bent and it was said he had a big build.Comparing bodies to Doc & Billy he’s a big boy! Billy is also wearing massive healed boots making him much taller than everyone.
@TheSpaghetti64
@TheSpaghetti64 2 ай бұрын
@@EvanRichards-xy8ew Please! Even standing erect he's shorter than Billy.
@EvanRichards-xy8ew
@EvanRichards-xy8ew 2 ай бұрын
Says the guy who can’t spell or see! lol This photo is not for dumb, blind, or stupid!
@TheSpaghetti64
@TheSpaghetti64 2 ай бұрын
@@EvanRichards-xy8ew When someone gets mad you know they have been called out and are lying. Keep dreaming, just because you want it to be doesn't mean it is.
@dodgeramsport01
@dodgeramsport01 2 ай бұрын
the tow docs are not the same person
@Rallysolo
@Rallysolo 2 ай бұрын
Billy the kid was a woman, and Charlie Bowdre was Charles Beaubien Maxwell. Look up Julia Lonergan Rodriguez her book (The Secret Life of Billy the kid)
@EvanRichards-xy8ew
@EvanRichards-xy8ew 2 ай бұрын
That’s the goofiest shit I’ve ever heard!
@colinkennedy908
@colinkennedy908 3 ай бұрын
Ya have one. Had it for years. Simple. A bit wonky sometimes but does the job.
@EvanRichards-xy8ew
@EvanRichards-xy8ew 2 ай бұрын
Ya man it works for sure!!!
@user-ec3lr3uj7e
@user-ec3lr3uj7e 3 ай бұрын
I don't know,,but it would be awesome if it was them,, I seen another pic I believe is billy and Tom, looked like they were dancing. Wish I knew for sure ,,
@mitchtucker5768
@mitchtucker5768 3 ай бұрын
Now show me how to get it back in that little black bag 😂😂
@crowthistle
@crowthistle 4 ай бұрын
My family are descended from the McCarty's in Ireland. The fact that he spelled it McCarty is a good indication that my family that settled in Nebraska were related by name. I look for family resemblances in these photos. I don't see it in the Brushy Bill photos. He just doesn't look like a McCarty. No offense. I do see the McCarty's in the other tin types however, and this as well.
@stevemccarty6384
@stevemccarty6384 2 ай бұрын
My family are McCarty's and originally from Ireland. Family legend has it that we are related to the Kid. His father was, according to the story, my great great grandfather's brother. His name was John McCarty who died in Andersonville Prison in GA. His grave is there and it includes his name. He had a brother whose name was William Henry McCarty, but, again as the story goes the Kid was named after him. I have pictures.
@timjohnson2551
@timjohnson2551 4 ай бұрын
One in the middle looks like brushy bill
@tutankhamunwhite665
@tutankhamunwhite665 10 сағат бұрын
Stop hes a fraud not billy his own children said there father couldn’t speak a lick of Spanish well billy was fluent in Spanish
@sheiladean9394
@sheiladean9394 6 ай бұрын
The center guy, the boots he is wearing, there is a pair of boots that look an awful lot like those boots in the Fort Sumner Museum. They're in the Billy the Kid stuff just a few feet down the wall from the gun display where Billy's rifle is located. These boots are labeled as Billys boots. There are several videos in You Tube on this. Just type in Billy the Kids boots. I went and took a very long look of the boots Billy is wearing in the famous tin type (the 1st one) and man your guy sure looks like he's wearing those same boots.
@EvanRichards-xy8ew
@EvanRichards-xy8ew 6 ай бұрын
See the other 2 videos! We are headed there in the spring to do the research👍 Thanks for watching!
@toddstrickland973
@toddstrickland973 6 ай бұрын
I've been in Sandia Man cave, in placitas or Las Huertas New Mexico, pretty big cave.i think it's open to the public again, after the walk way to the entrance collapsed, it's up on the side of the canyon.
@Navigator001
@Navigator001 6 ай бұрын
Can you share why you think it was at Sandia Cave? I love this photo. It looks like the real deal to me.
@EvanRichards-xy8ew
@EvanRichards-xy8ew 6 ай бұрын
Sits between Albuquerque and Santa Fe giving them the best location to get news on their demise coming from city news papers, out of the way from everyone in Lincoln looking for them and confident they couldn’t be found, just a few that I think. I’m only a few hundred mile away from Sandia cave and headed there after winter to map it photographically to show the cave matches the photo.
@jamesbarr1620
@jamesbarr1620 6 ай бұрын
Nice comparison of the 3 👍
@EvanRichards-xy8ew
@EvanRichards-xy8ew 6 ай бұрын
Glad you think so!
@EvanRichards-xy8ew
@EvanRichards-xy8ew 6 ай бұрын
I think it’s all dead on, I’m just glad viewers also think so 👍 Be posting more on it so stay tuned & thanks for watching.
@jamesbarr1620
@jamesbarr1620 6 ай бұрын
@@EvanRichards-xy8ew can’t wait for more content 👍
@LDM662
@LDM662 6 ай бұрын
My wife and I took a trip from Las Cruces up to Lincoln and the stomping ground of Billy the Kid. It was awesome. We plan on it again.
@jamesbarr1620
@jamesbarr1620 6 ай бұрын
The belt height around the waist is bang on in my opinion 👌
@EvanRichards-xy8ew
@EvanRichards-xy8ew 6 ай бұрын
See the 3rd video of Billy’s nose ridge along with Tom & Doc.
@tonyforrester5072
@tonyforrester5072 6 ай бұрын
Cool, I live a few miles from the cave
@EvanRichards-xy8ew
@EvanRichards-xy8ew 6 ай бұрын
So glad to see a local to Sandia Cave see this!. Headed there once winter blows through from Az. Thanks for watching.👍
@DukeCity.S.V
@DukeCity.S.V 6 ай бұрын
You will have a fantastic adventure here! I know I do!
@jackdickey6015
@jackdickey6015 6 ай бұрын
Great pic an of historical significance !
@Garrettedwards
@Garrettedwards 6 ай бұрын
Wow… so cool. I read somewhere and I can’t remember where I read it but it was said that billy had a six gun with Pearl grips that he absolutely loved. I believe he bought it for 25 bucks if I remember correctly. It would appear the middle guy has that same gun…. Which is supporting evidence that this very well could be the kid!! I’m gonna have to find where I heard that from. I’m honestly thinking brushy bill said it…
@EvanRichards-xy8ew
@EvanRichards-xy8ew 6 ай бұрын
We just did some pics just on the gun in Billy’s belt. Has an eagle engraved on the grips that looks custom not like Colt factory design. Be posting the pic soon along with poster size video of the tintype. Thanks for watching👍
@Garrettedwards
@Garrettedwards 6 ай бұрын
@@EvanRichards-xy8ewthat’s awesome!! I subscribed! Looking forwards to seeing the future of this historic photo.
@deebojones2777
@deebojones2777 6 ай бұрын
The comparison of Billy with the man in the center of the photo is compelling. His posture; the way he stands, even his boots. The best evidence against the Brushy Bill claim is in the book The Real Billy The Kid, by Otero. The access Otero had to people that knew Billy The Kid personally is impressive. In the book, people that were the closest to Billy confirm that he was killed by Pat Garret. They even claim to have seen his body. This book was written in the 1930’s, well before Brushy Bill entered the scene with his claim.
@marcusbroman1073
@marcusbroman1073 6 ай бұрын
Heard that Tom O'Folliard was a tall guy ? But it really looks like Billy
@EvanRichards-xy8ew
@EvanRichards-xy8ew 6 ай бұрын
See second video with better Tom pic. It’s said he had a large build and in this pic he’s very large bodied compared to Billy & Doc.
@marcusbroman1073
@marcusbroman1073 6 ай бұрын
@@EvanRichards-xy8ew Thanks 👍
@marcusbroman1073
@marcusbroman1073 6 ай бұрын
@@EvanRichards-xy8ew This picture is awesome
@louislamboley9167
@louislamboley9167 6 ай бұрын
Thanks for the update on your research. Looks like Doc Scurlock to me. I saw that other photo. Wearing same style mustache. Look at his ears. They match. No one has the same ears. They're like fingerprints.
@EvanRichards-xy8ew
@EvanRichards-xy8ew 6 ай бұрын
Thanks for looking! I agree with the ears, identical in both photos. More info coming. Appreciate your input👍
@sumbuddy63
@sumbuddy63 6 ай бұрын
There is one other thing in this photo that seems to fit. Not a lot of people know that the Kid, most of time, wore hats that had big and wide brims almost like sombreros. Thats the first thing I look at when another possible Kid photo comes up.
@edisongeorge3788
@edisongeorge3788 6 ай бұрын
Hello, I find that the Headstone is actually a map of Lincoln County at the 4way intersection..
@EvanRichards-xy8ew
@EvanRichards-xy8ew 6 ай бұрын
There looks to be a map behind them with a name on the road behind Tom O’Folliard! Looks like Garrett but too early to say.
@edisongeorge3788
@edisongeorge3788 6 ай бұрын
@@EvanRichards-xy8ew I have always thought Billy was taller than they said. And he must have been very angry at how they placed Tunstall's dead body to look like he was having sex with his horse. I can't really disagree with Billy's motives. Do you think this is Brushy, or the guy in Emilio's photo? They have the exact same boots on. Thanks for historical inputs, I feel you are onto the truth.
@CatHound
@CatHound 6 ай бұрын
It's reported that he had large wrist with small hands.
@Snarkapotamus
@Snarkapotamus 6 ай бұрын
Better to slip out of handcuffs!
@geraldhoffpauir5048
@geraldhoffpauir5048 6 ай бұрын
who ever the guy is in the middle has the same exact build and stand as brushy bill Roberts..it's amazing the resemblance. I am now more convinced than ever that brushy bill is indeed or was in fact billy the kid. This is an amazing find.
@dodgeramsport01
@dodgeramsport01 2 ай бұрын
I noticed that also!
@juliusking3419
@juliusking3419 6 ай бұрын
👍
@mikerobb7443
@mikerobb7443 6 ай бұрын
multispectral imaging, look up companies who can do that, that would surely answer your questions
@Navigator001
@Navigator001 6 ай бұрын
I'm intrigued by the 1,2,3 written in pencil on the photograph. I suspect that the names were written in pencil on the back at one time, but were worn off over time. If you have it forensically analyzed at some point, maybe they can detect this.
@Navigator001
@Navigator001 6 ай бұрын
The shoulders of BTK in your photo are heavily tapered down (no shoulders) just like the first authenticated photo of BTK. Another eyewitness that met BTK several times said that he had "no chin". Your photo of BTK, his chin is much less pronounced than the other two in the photograph. Doc Scurlock looks spot on to me, BTK is very compelling, Folliard less convincing, but could be.
@EvanRichards-xy8ew
@EvanRichards-xy8ew 6 ай бұрын
See 2nd video with Tom O’Folliard pic. Definitely Tom there no question.
@Navigator001
@Navigator001 6 ай бұрын
The asymmetrical eyebrows stand out to me, which a lot of people point out in the first tintype.
@Navigator001
@Navigator001 6 ай бұрын
Another thing I notice is that Doc's pistol grip is dark in color (probably wood) and the guy you think is Billy, his pistol grip appears to be nearly white. Billy was said to have a pearl handled pistol that he was very fond of. I can't remember where I heard that at, but it may have come from Brushy Bill, if you believe he might have been BTK.
@Navigator001
@Navigator001 6 ай бұрын
I thought it was Fox Cave that Billy used to hide out at? Is this a second cave?
@Navigator001
@Navigator001 6 ай бұрын
Thanks for the video, I really think you have something here.