Billy the Kid Photo, Regulators in Sandia Cave, New Mexico April 4th-July 4th Hideout 1878

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7 ай бұрын

Tom Folliard, William H Bonney, Doc Scurlock in Sandia Man Cave hideout 1878 after battle at Blazers Mills, April 4th 1878 & before Lincoln 5 day war.Message in writing all over this and on backdrop the men are standing in front of. Luckyoutlaw.com for full breakdown of photo. Maybe Pat Garrett’s score card of death!See 2nd & 3rd video + more to come.

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@sumbuddy63
@sumbuddy63 6 ай бұрын
There is one other thing in this photo that seems to fit. Not a lot of people know that the Kid, most of time, wore hats that had big and wide brims almost like sombreros. Thats the first thing I look at when another possible Kid photo comes up.
@jackdickey6015
@jackdickey6015 6 ай бұрын
Great pic an of historical significance !
@toddstrickland973
@toddstrickland973 6 ай бұрын
I've been in Sandia Man cave, in placitas or Las Huertas New Mexico, pretty big cave.i think it's open to the public again, after the walk way to the entrance collapsed, it's up on the side of the canyon.
@Navigator001
@Navigator001 6 ай бұрын
I'm intrigued by the 1,2,3 written in pencil on the photograph. I suspect that the names were written in pencil on the back at one time, but were worn off over time. If you have it forensically analyzed at some point, maybe they can detect this.
@Navigator001
@Navigator001 6 ай бұрын
The shoulders of BTK in your photo are heavily tapered down (no shoulders) just like the first authenticated photo of BTK. Another eyewitness that met BTK several times said that he had "no chin". Your photo of BTK, his chin is much less pronounced than the other two in the photograph. Doc Scurlock looks spot on to me, BTK is very compelling, Folliard less convincing, but could be.
@EvanRichards-xy8ew
@EvanRichards-xy8ew 6 ай бұрын
See 2nd video with Tom O’Folliard pic. Definitely Tom there no question.
@crowthistle
@crowthistle 4 ай бұрын
My family are descended from the McCarty's in Ireland. The fact that he spelled it McCarty is a good indication that my family that settled in Nebraska were related by name. I look for family resemblances in these photos. I don't see it in the Brushy Bill photos. He just doesn't look like a McCarty. No offense. I do see the McCarty's in the other tin types however, and this as well.
@stevemccarty6384
@stevemccarty6384 2 ай бұрын
My family are McCarty's and originally from Ireland. Family legend has it that we are related to the Kid. His father was, according to the story, my great great grandfather's brother. His name was John McCarty who died in Andersonville Prison in GA. His grave is there and it includes his name. He had a brother whose name was William Henry McCarty, but, again as the story goes the Kid was named after him. I have pictures.
@goodvibes5603
@goodvibes5603 Ай бұрын
Middle guy ears look like BB and the famous BTK photo . Cool video
@67Zink
@67Zink 6 ай бұрын
Billy the Kid had very narrow shoulders. Also had small hands and narrow wrists-- you can see that these are smaller than the other 2 fellas. Those leather boots he's wearing look very much like the ones in the famous tin type.
@Navigator001
@Navigator001 6 ай бұрын
He had large wrists comparative to his hands, that's why he was able to slip handcuffs.
@sheiladean9394
@sheiladean9394 5 ай бұрын
The center guy, the boots he is wearing, there is a pair of boots that look an awful lot like those boots in the Fort Sumner Museum. They're in the Billy the Kid stuff just a few feet down the wall from the gun display where Billy's rifle is located. These boots are labeled as Billys boots. There are several videos in You Tube on this. Just type in Billy the Kids boots. I went and took a very long look of the boots Billy is wearing in the famous tin type (the 1st one) and man your guy sure looks like he's wearing those same boots.
@EvanRichards-xy8ew
@EvanRichards-xy8ew 5 ай бұрын
See the other 2 videos! We are headed there in the spring to do the research👍 Thanks for watching!
@geraldhoffpauir5048
@geraldhoffpauir5048 6 ай бұрын
who ever the guy is in the middle has the same exact build and stand as brushy bill Roberts..it's amazing the resemblance. I am now more convinced than ever that brushy bill is indeed or was in fact billy the kid. This is an amazing find.
@dodgeramsport01
@dodgeramsport01 2 ай бұрын
I noticed that also!
@ewolf734
@ewolf734 6 ай бұрын
How cool is that!
@k107fm
@k107fm 6 ай бұрын
This photo has a creepy vibe to it. If this is authentic, it's a huge piece of history.
@SPCLPONY
@SPCLPONY 6 ай бұрын
Could this exact location in Sandia Cave be recognizable today? I've not heard of this cave before, but it gives me something to research this evening.
@EvanRichards-xy8ew
@EvanRichards-xy8ew 6 ай бұрын
Of course, look up Sandia Cave New Mexico. Plenty of photos.
@AaronBabcock-nx2un
@AaronBabcock-nx2un 27 күн бұрын
The guy on the right , his hat is like Billy’s main authentic picture. Slant at the top, like the rough riders.
@larrynoller3014
@larrynoller3014 24 күн бұрын
There was no “O” in Tom’s last name. His middle initial was “o”
@Garrettedwards
@Garrettedwards 6 ай бұрын
Wow… so cool. I read somewhere and I can’t remember where I read it but it was said that billy had a six gun with Pearl grips that he absolutely loved. I believe he bought it for 25 bucks if I remember correctly. It would appear the middle guy has that same gun…. Which is supporting evidence that this very well could be the kid!! I’m gonna have to find where I heard that from. I’m honestly thinking brushy bill said it…
@EvanRichards-xy8ew
@EvanRichards-xy8ew 6 ай бұрын
We just did some pics just on the gun in Billy’s belt. Has an eagle engraved on the grips that looks custom not like Colt factory design. Be posting the pic soon along with poster size video of the tintype. Thanks for watching👍
@Garrettedwards
@Garrettedwards 6 ай бұрын
@@EvanRichards-xy8ewthat’s awesome!! I subscribed! Looking forwards to seeing the future of this historic photo.
@ultramagahoosierhermit2767
@ultramagahoosierhermit2767 18 күн бұрын
Nice pic. Not BTK
@sartainja
@sartainja 6 ай бұрын
That fellow in the middle appears to be to tall in height to be “Billy the Kid” based upon the one historically correct picture that is known of William. Do not want my comment to be taken as negative. Hope that it can be proven that the picture is really him. We need more pictures of this legend. Am a fan of The Kid. Think what he did was justified after Tunstall was gunned down.
@EvanRichards-xy8ew
@EvanRichards-xy8ew 6 ай бұрын
His boots are ridiculously large heeled giving him a forward very tall stance. Both Tom & Doc have their legs crossed not giving them a full stance. Believe the boots are even the same from his original photo however those days guys would have to have them repaired and altered often. After new years I will be doing another video with this professionally blown up poster size giving more detail. Thanks for looking.👍
@stevekwiatkowski959
@stevekwiatkowski959 6 ай бұрын
Why not start with trying to I'd the type of gun in Billy's belt. He only carried certain pistols. .44 single actions If I'm correct
@k107fm
@k107fm 6 ай бұрын
billie was they think 5'8" - Doc was same height. Could be uneven surface, billies boots are high heeled and the other two are leaning.
@dapunkyqb1679
@dapunkyqb1679 3 ай бұрын
@@k107fm you mean Thomas “Big Foot” O’Folliard (Folliard)!?
@mikerobb7443
@mikerobb7443 6 ай бұрын
multispectral imaging, look up companies who can do that, that would surely answer your questions
@DarkMatterX1
@DarkMatterX1 26 күн бұрын
That dude in the middle looks nothing like the 2 authenticated photos of Henry McCarty.
@scottowens1535
@scottowens1535 6 ай бұрын
👍
@user-ec3lr3uj7e
@user-ec3lr3uj7e 2 ай бұрын
I don't know,,but it would be awesome if it was them,, I seen another pic I believe is billy and Tom, looked like they were dancing. Wish I knew for sure ,,
@Navigator001
@Navigator001 6 ай бұрын
I thought it was Fox Cave that Billy used to hide out at? Is this a second cave?
@Navigator001
@Navigator001 6 ай бұрын
Thanks for the video, I really think you have something here.
@elchoya8432
@elchoya8432 11 күн бұрын
looks like jesse james,black bart and kid sheleen
@michaelperks8607
@michaelperks8607 Ай бұрын
The kid was only like 5'8 looks too tall. How tall were tom and doc said to be?
@CatHound
@CatHound 6 ай бұрын
It's reported that he had large wrist with small hands.
@Snarkapotamus
@Snarkapotamus 6 ай бұрын
Better to slip out of handcuffs!
@joegross247
@joegross247 Күн бұрын
Billy the Kid and Doc Scurlock were supposed to be roughly the same height. There is clearly 5"-6" between the two you believe to be them.
@kenwheatley1781
@kenwheatley1781 2 ай бұрын
Tom Folliard was a big guy, bigger than Billy. That is neither Billy or Tom Folliard.
@jonathanbonar775
@jonathanbonar775 Ай бұрын
Thats highly unlikely Doc. Look at the ear loobs of the known picture of him as as older man. His ear loobs are much larger and unattached. In this photo the man on the right has attached ear loobs. That feature never changes .
@steverodriguez4871
@steverodriguez4871 6 ай бұрын
That totally looks like Billy the hat the boots his face structure and all
@tombrady9385
@tombrady9385 Ай бұрын
I’ll take that photo for $1M. Where do I send the check.
@GameCreatorOfGod
@GameCreatorOfGod Ай бұрын
I can do it, I will do it. Gimp is my best friend.
@marcusbroman1073
@marcusbroman1073 6 ай бұрын
Heard that Tom O'Folliard was a tall guy ? But it really looks like Billy
@EvanRichards-xy8ew
@EvanRichards-xy8ew 6 ай бұрын
See second video with better Tom pic. It’s said he had a large build and in this pic he’s very large bodied compared to Billy & Doc.
@marcusbroman1073
@marcusbroman1073 6 ай бұрын
@@EvanRichards-xy8ew Thanks 👍
@marcusbroman1073
@marcusbroman1073 6 ай бұрын
@@EvanRichards-xy8ew This picture is awesome
@lburnstein196
@lburnstein196 Ай бұрын
The only thing is Tom o follard was easily 6 foot tall if not more..so how could that be Tom when Billy was 5 foot 9
@Navigator001
@Navigator001 6 ай бұрын
The asymmetrical eyebrows stand out to me, which a lot of people point out in the first tintype.
@Navigator001
@Navigator001 6 ай бұрын
Another thing I notice is that Doc's pistol grip is dark in color (probably wood) and the guy you think is Billy, his pistol grip appears to be nearly white. Billy was said to have a pearl handled pistol that he was very fond of. I can't remember where I heard that at, but it may have come from Brushy Bill, if you believe he might have been BTK.
@TheFactorySealedCollector.
@TheFactorySealedCollector. Ай бұрын
If that is real it has to be priceless. What a prize 🏆
@timjohnson2551
@timjohnson2551 4 ай бұрын
One in the middle looks like brushy bill
@Rallysolo
@Rallysolo 2 ай бұрын
Billy the kid was a woman, and Charlie Bowdre was Charles Beaubien Maxwell. Look up Julia Lonergan Rodriguez her book (The Secret Life of Billy the kid)
@EvanRichards-xy8ew
@EvanRichards-xy8ew 2 ай бұрын
That’s the goofiest shit I’ve ever heard!
@deepsqueakdigger3728
@deepsqueakdigger3728 Ай бұрын
Hate to burst your bubble... but you are wrong on just about everything from a historical aspect! BTK (5'8ish) was NOT taller than Tom or Scurlock! PERIOD! And Toms last name was Folliard, NOT with an 'O!' The O was his middle initial! Tom was quite tall ...roughly 6 ft. Scurlock was slightly taller than Tom! AND FINALLY... Scurlock's buckle was NOT hit at Balzers Mill... Charlie Bowdre's was .... ... and George Coe lost his right index/trigger finger that day, and Richard Brewer was killed!
@DarkMatterX1
@DarkMatterX1 26 күн бұрын
Scurlock was about the same height as Billy, 5'8" or 9". Average for the time.
@samyoung3592
@samyoung3592 3 күн бұрын
nope
@hyena61
@hyena61 10 күн бұрын
C'mon people ... With all of these supposed photos of Billy the Kid and company ... if they spent this much time getting photos of themselves how were they able to get away from the law that was constantly chasing them ? There is only 1 verified photo of Billy and that should stand !!!
@CaleBrooks-kr9fr
@CaleBrooks-kr9fr Ай бұрын
No,no,no. Doc and billy were both 5'8", nice try.
@chilipequin6351
@chilipequin6351 11 күн бұрын
I want some DNA evidence before I believe brushy Bill is Billy the kid! No offense!
@TheSpaghetti64
@TheSpaghetti64 2 ай бұрын
Red flag. Tom O'Folliard was tall. Keep trying to convince yourself. There's no prominence to the photo.
@EvanRichards-xy8ew
@EvanRichards-xy8ew 2 ай бұрын
Not a red flag when you look close! He’s not standing straight with one leg bent and it was said he had a big build.Comparing bodies to Doc & Billy he’s a big boy! Billy is also wearing massive healed boots making him much taller than everyone.
@TheSpaghetti64
@TheSpaghetti64 2 ай бұрын
@@EvanRichards-xy8ew Please! Even standing erect he's shorter than Billy.
@EvanRichards-xy8ew
@EvanRichards-xy8ew 2 ай бұрын
Says the guy who can’t spell or see! lol This photo is not for dumb, blind, or stupid!
@TheSpaghetti64
@TheSpaghetti64 2 ай бұрын
@@EvanRichards-xy8ew When someone gets mad you know they have been called out and are lying. Keep dreaming, just because you want it to be doesn't mean it is.
@juliusking3419
@juliusking3419 6 ай бұрын
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