Any idea why power wheelchairs are still on SLA/Gel batteries? Everything else seems to have moved onto LiFePo4 batteries, from scooters, to ebikes, to solar farms.

did you get a new bounder with Linx ? did the Key come with the chair and software to program it yourself ? is that a dealer Key or OEM version - where can you get one - either or ? thanks how does the new bounder feel compared to older one ?

I didn't watch this live, but the touch screen is kinda stupid on wheelchair. Don't get me wrong usually i love the latest technology and love to retrofit new stuff to old things. But if it rains i bet the touch screen on wheel chair isn't any good and does crazy things on its own :D

Without u, I won’t buy permobil wheelchair

Sorry I missed the stream. Had to catch up on some much needed sleep 😊

Should the motor brush click, My 1450 does and idk about these things and my dme is a dirt bag.

I know it has been forever since you made this video but do you do modifications or know any one who does as I really wan to upgrade my chair.

FYI on some quantum wheels, the permobil tires aren't clamped with enough force to hold them in place, and keep them from spinning on the wheel - that extra bit of foam filling on the stock quantum tires may be required for everything to work properly. it worked fine on my edge 3 stretto - but ive heard from a few people with edge 1 chairs, that they had to take some extra steps to keep the permobil tires from spinning inside the quantum wheels

I see the bounder in the background 😎!! Tell tell tell show show show plz!

What water based wet wipes do you use for cleaning? Trying to find only water based w/ out aloe & etc. 22:35

I had a Blue metallic Quickie S-626 in college. My colleagues named it Stitch!!! Those soccer chairs are insanely fast. Dig the speed and the willingness to do wheelies.

"But nobody else is using it". The number of times I've heard that excuse. As for "I need to park in this space, so that the bus can use this space that I'm parked in", That's clearly a display of intelligence beyond my ability to grasp.

Hi Dan, great video with lots of information. I received my F5 VS in March and use the charger in stock configuration. I haven’t had any battery issues yet. Also had a good conversation about it with my DME provider and they have seen less troubles with new deliveries. I say that because after the first set of Permobil batteries, they switch the clients back to MK batteries.

Dan, I Tokyo Drifted power chairs in my College days on campus in the slush. The old Quickie P-300 was very drift worthy.

Oh, to add to my previous comment, I tried to switch my original Voltpro charger as you suggested, but the switch on the bottom is there, but will not move, as if it is intentionally jammed from moving at the factory.

This may or may not be interesting to you, Dan. I have a 2021 permobil F3 with the volt pro charger that came with it. After about three months, I noticed while charging, the charger connector was very hot, and the charger port was melted. You mentioned in a video about the service bulletin about this, so I had both the joystick and the Volt pro charger replaced with the newly updated Voltpro charger, and the batteries, MK Permobil brand as well at the same time. Ever since that time, the charger connector and port never gets hot or even barely warm at all. I checked after ten minutes connected, 30 minutes connected, and six hours charging until the fully charged green light turns on, the connector never even got warm. The batteries are now two years old, and my range is still just over ten miles. Anyway, everything still works perfectly ever since I got the newer Voltpro charger. I hope this helps, because everything works perfectly now.

Permobil M5 New March 22/23 - New Motors/Batteries Jan 17/24 - been using charger as shipped - I do about 4.3 miles per day during the week - current batteries have 668 miles on them - Batteries are very mildly losing range but only slightly - more when I use the seating functions

I use a Dolphin battery Charger

Hey Dan, I got a problem Bill F5 with the exact same charger that you’ve been showing us today. I plug mine in at possibly 12 o’clock at night till six in the morning and I don’t have problems with it with my chair during the day with Battery situation mine is running OK I have the exact same batteries that you showed us today in my chair now I haven’t had it. I haven’t had any problems with them I haven’t had. I haven’t had batteries changed I’ve only had this chair baby I would say in a year and I haven’t had any problems but and I haven’t heard of any of my friends that have perm wheelchairs have any problems, so I just wanted to leave you a comment on what you said today I hope that this gives you some information that you need. If I come, I come out with some issues down the line I will tell you. anyhow, I hope you have a wonderful day and I’ll talk to you soon and I will let you know in the future. If when these batteries do you get old enough to where the chair runs down faster and if I have any problems with the charger because I do have the exact same charger that you showed us today but I’ll run it in the normal mode that I came with in the box so but anyhow I hope you have a wonderful day and I’ll talk to you soon. Can’t wait to see your next video. See you man.

My chair guy came by last week to order my new parts and batteries. The company claims my batteries are less than a year old and yes they told me I must use that charger. I told him if I pull my driveway hill a few times a day which is normal to go upstairs, my batteries are half dead. He put in the order but now the wait.

Thanks a lot for sharing this video. I had already done this procedure before on the phone with the permobil service guy for my c500. But now i have the same trouble with my new F5 . Everthing works as described this video ! Thanks a lot. I have to seperate leg rests so only one is autocalibrate. But no problem , that one works fine .. Greeting en keep going !

I've been using the Invacare Opticharge 8amp - I don't believe it has a 10a mode on my model. For the past 4 years either the charger is unkind or the battery quality is poorer for sure I've never had batteries degrade as quickly. Something is not good but... free batteries so never actually got to the bottom of it.

Completed lithium swap on my 2016 f3 this weekend and the year old volt pro batteries were so swollen that we broke the ribs on the side of battery. They were swollen on 5 of 6 sides and they were charged with the volt pro charger since new. I have pics of the batteries if you want them and the new lifepo4 batteries are awesome way more power

What website should I buy the new batteries from? I have been wondering why they still use led acid and not lithium ion batteries for power chairs. I would like to convert my f3 to lithium ion if it is possible.

What is the best way to reach out to you?

Permobil has updated the firmware update if you have the connect module u should have gotten it I left my VP pro charger on 10 amp mode and got 4000 miles out of it with no problems after that update

Been listening, Dan. My f5 arrived the first week of July and as of today I have 360 Miles. The new programming shortcuts on this chair and loaded less the VS, it has been top speed up long fairly steep hills and holds top speed (7.4mph). After the batteries were broke-in, my indicator dropped to eighty percent just once on a ten mile ride. My dm guy knows the hills and says have at it and the manual suggests occasional 12 hr charges are recommended. Like Ten Bears said, 'I find iron in your words' and look forward to your conclusion. Appreciate you!

Hi Dan I have a tdxp2 ya have one just like it I don’t have that type of charger I have the one with the 3 lights on it that came with the chair I’ve used that charger on 2 other chairs and had no problem don’t know if this will help ya at all but that charger is good for just about anything I’ve used it on

I have a 2021 f3, I've never touched the setting on my voltpro charger. My original batteries lasted just over a year but there was a six month delay between my chair being sent to my DME and me taking delivery. In the first 8 months it saw very limited use, taking a couple 1+ mile trips led to a rapid decline in capacity. My current batteries see usage about 4-5 days a week, some days only see about 0.2 miles, my daily record is 4.8; most days of usage get about 1.5. The current batteries were installed July of 2023 and still perform like new, they are the group 34 variant.

How come you don’t do world world, testing, and with the batteries in the chair?

I always enjoy watching❤❤❤❤❤

I have a F3 got it 5/9/2024. Same looking charger but no switch or I can’t find one. No problems yet. Ask me what to check out.

I just got a F5 vertical standing power chair probably about almost 3 weeks now and I'm using the the Voltron charger that they sent with it and so far I've had no issues

I have a new style charger I keep in my van as a backup if I get stuck while traveling I can send you. I instantly went on eBay and bought another gray upright style one. Thanks for this video and information. I personally appreciate it.

I have an invacare chair, amongst other's lol 😆 which came with one of those permobil look alike chargers, but I don't use the charger. Instead I bought a power first charger which is is constructed from aluminium and has metal fins on the top which forms part of the case and in my opinion is a much better quality charger than the one supplied, as I invested in two new 75 Ah MK batteries I didn't want to run the risk of damage to them. My chair was second hand and did have MK batteries fitted and the seller told me that the batteries were practically new, however when I used the supplied charger (resembled the permobil one) the batteries soon died, draw your own conclusions! As always, thanks Dan 👍

I used the green charger permobil m 5 no problem also on qotmm no problem

Hi. I imported VoltPro because it is not sold in Japan. But from the video, is it better to charge at 8A than 10A?

peace be upon you sir and zamzam water

new permobil volt pro batteries and charger,......batteries f were likely bad from new but by 6 months were only getting my chair about 2 miles on a full charge. Still fighting with permobil canada and motion specialties about the replacements.

When I got my chair in February the batteries that it had were completely dead play had to bring me a new set haven't had no issues with these batteries or the charger.

My Amy turned 3 today with 4,809 miles on the clock . I have regular AGM over the summer every wheelchair charger I owned melted down and stopped working . I change my batts every year with my high mileage ,range starts falling off till the chair starts shutting down and throwing errors and leaving me stranded .i do reprogram the chairs settings I am not a marginal driver .