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@danacoleman4007 18 күн бұрын
thank you for the video! can you tell us what type of magnification you use? power and brand
@bristlyInnkeeper 17 күн бұрын
You're welcome - I use a basic loupe with 15x magnification that I purchased for plant identification. 15 is good enough, but I sometimes strain my eyes, so I would recommend 20x or greater to make it easier.
@danacoleman4007 18 күн бұрын
thank you for this useful information! The only cards I've ever gotten that were damaged have been rares and mythics. why don't they just use the same process to print those as they do the commons?😂
@bristlyInnkeeper 17 күн бұрын
Definitely a bummer to open damaged mythics, but we've all been there. Good luck on your replacements!
@danacoleman4007 18 күн бұрын
The bullet whizzing noises are what made this awesome to me!
@bristlyInnkeeper 17 күн бұрын
Glad you liked it. Just need to cut it down to a shorter version for tiktok now...
@danacoleman4007 18 күн бұрын
May I ask how you are doing your magnification? I have a jeweler's loop and I can't even see the word wizards in the holograph stamp at all. thanks for the video!
@bristlyInnkeeper 17 күн бұрын
What is the magnification of your loupe? I use a 15x and the wizards word in the stamp is difficult to see and I have to strain a bit. I would recommend 30x loupe if you can get one to see it easier. Green dot test is easier though, so I mostly just go that route. Good luck!
@ErnieKuhz 19 күн бұрын
Deck list?
@bristlyInnkeeper 17 күн бұрын
coming soon - I'll make a video about it. I've upgraded it a little since the video.
@Shiny_Plume 29 күн бұрын
I think I found my dueling spirit
@bristlyInnkeeper 17 күн бұрын
:D
@philipperler8418 29 күн бұрын
cool Event but it was called Goodie Bag… thats no bag thats just a paper bag 🙄
@edgareat6405 Ай бұрын
They’re all fake, it’s plastic and cardboard that y’all think are worth something.
@ChokingHazaard Ай бұрын
The packs we had were Dominaria United Collectors and Mystery Booster convention edition. I wound up getting 3rd place and winning 4 more Duskmourn packs and had some great pulls and super fun games.
@bristlyInnkeeper Ай бұрын
Nice thats awesome! I hear other stores got a collector booster like you did. We got mystery booster and wilds of eldraine draft pack. Still super fun.
@VincentAnthonyE Ай бұрын
As a returning player (once again) after being gone for 13+ years, i hate backward curling foils. What do you thinknof recent secret lair rainbow foils vs non foil editions? Any insight there into process or where they come from? I'm thinking of upcoming marvel drop.
@bristlyInnkeeper Ай бұрын
Great question! Yea most recent foils look like pringles and it’s really too bad since old foils seem to stay flat forever. I’ve only opened a few secret lairs but they also bend like the rest of US printed foils. I think Sectet Lairs are all US printed, but that may have just been my experience. On foil look, I think some of the rainbow foils from SL look very dark and flat but it really changes SL to SL. Ultimately it’s the question of, do you want the SL or not since you don’t really get a choice on quality. Good luck!
@VincentAnthonyE Ай бұрын
Is there a rule on prerelease foils and if they come from Japan or Usa?
@bristlyInnkeeper Ай бұрын
Prerelease kits tend to be USA printed. Some may have other experiences, but every prerelease I’ve been to in the last 3 years was USA printed. Good question!
@herrlebowski7938 Ай бұрын
I went to the event at my LGS yesterday and it was great. We had a Theros Beyond Death Draft Booster and a Innistrad: Midnight Hunt Collector Booster. They matched perfectly with the theme and the mechanics of Duskmourn. And playing with the emblem made everyone play five colour all enchantmen and good stuff. It's was a real treat!
@NUMSKUL_TX Ай бұрын
What's the best emblem? I'd assume treasure? 🤔
@bristlyInnkeeper Ай бұрын
That sounds really fun! We had mystery booster and wilds of eldraine. Most people did not want to play with the emblem unfortunately, but a few did and it was a good time!
@bristlyInnkeeper Ай бұрын
I would definitely agree that treasure is probably best in most competitive atmospheres.
@blazeisthebest1419 Ай бұрын
What are the extra packs
@bristlyInnkeeper Ай бұрын
@@blazeisthebest1419 totally random! Up to your store. Could be Bloomburrow or OTJ or anything else they have in stock.
@Firevine Ай бұрын
One of the saddest ways to detect that a modern MTG card is fake is that it's higher quality that real ones. Cards don't feel flimsy. Foils don't curl. Older cards are still pretty obvious. No one who has been playing for any length of time is going to be tricked by fakes of ABU/Four Horsemen cards. They can't seem to get the colors on the backs of the fakes quite right. I got an Arid Mesa that was almost bang on on the front side, but the back looked like day glow orange sherbet. I've never seen a fake that had a correct reverse side, and I own thousands at this point. I was comparing a real Alliances Force of Will to a fake one day. One thing to consider is that fakes are printed on modern equipment. The expansion symbol on the real Force was grainy and lower resolution due to being printed on machines of that era. The fake was CRISP with very high resolution. Someone inexperienced who was looking for Forces may have been fooled, thought the real was fake due to the lower resolution, or not even thought of something like that. There's no real catch-all way. I ordered two fake Drop of Honey from the same vendor, and they both looked radially different. Both _obviously_ fake too at least.
@bristlyInnkeeper Ай бұрын
Yea sometimes it’s as easy as the back, and other times there are other tells. Just using a combination of authenticating tests is the best move.
@JohnNelson1 Ай бұрын
That fake is blinding me it’s so reflective. That’s a clear indication.
@creditcheck9646 Ай бұрын
6/8 = 3/4ths all good im sure u ment 11/16ths
@letswatchification Ай бұрын
Bill is the most fun commander i have. Ive never had a deck that comes back so fast even after a board wipe
@bristlyInnkeeper Ай бұрын
Bill is my absolutely favorite as well. It’s such a fun deck and just explodes once you get 2-3 interaction pieces going with him.
@SpeckyX3 Ай бұрын
Dang im going to have to cosplay as a cowboy now
@bristlyInnkeeper Ай бұрын
It’s the only way. (Genuinely debating if I make a bill cosplay for my lgs on commander nights)
@SpeckyX3 Ай бұрын
@bristlyInnkeeper I would
@evilded2 Ай бұрын
Yeah ... I hope so the were when i printed them it would be very concerning if the weren't
@erickdiaz1703 Ай бұрын
I haven't looked at magic prices for about a year. The last time I went to pre release was WOE and I'm shocked at how cheap singles have gotten. I have the same virtue and I thought it was worth more lol, I don't get cards for value *cough* jeweled lotus *cough* I like to play the game. Yes I do own a few lotus and crypts, the only reason I'm upset is because lotus is a commander specific card.
@bristlyInnkeeper Ай бұрын
Yea it’s definitely a topic I want to make a video about at some point, but singles have become drastically cheaper overall. The only drawback I’ve seen is that stores never have inventory anymore…
@TheGorillah Ай бұрын
Thanks for the video, it really helps to got an updated view on this - appreciate it. I recently got some troubles to declare cards 100 % legit. From the back they all seem legit - rosette and color variation excluded. Bend tests are positive as well. Most of the time my suspicion grows from different combinations of the following: • the black parts of the set-symbol or mana-symbol are blurry • font weight is different • light is barely coming through the cards • weight ist outside of 1,7-1,8 g - most of the time under • sometimes thick black layer in between • on some holostamps the "WIZARDS"-Sections are not shown or just barely shown If they are legit inspite all these, there is only the back to tell if cards are legit. What are your thoughts about rebacks? Everybody keeps telling me, these are only been done for old expensive cards. I think, if someone finds a cheap way to do them, they would aim for cards that are commonly been sold - which i think is more like 3-20 maybe 30 dollars.
@bristlyInnkeeper Ай бұрын
Good question. Usually for double faced cards or a card where you can’t verify by green dot test, the blacks on the front are a good tell. The border, set symbol, and text that is black needs to be crisp. All of them. Fakes do a good job of one or two but never all of them. On the back, just look for greet dot and sharp line on H and double box like in the video. I’m not that worried about rebacking. To do it well and potentially destroy a high value card, the card you are backing needs to be of significant value and there will be tells if it is rebacked. Most cards we play with are not going to be rebacked. Good question and good luck!
@praet0ria Ай бұрын
Great tips, thanks for sharing
@bristlyInnkeeper Ай бұрын
Thank you for watching. I appreciate it!
@noobtube2799 Ай бұрын
Those singles are surely worth more than a blb bundle. Def singles either way
@RSTAR171 Ай бұрын
Bottom right? I'm not sure, one definitely seems different
@silentcalling Ай бұрын
I was going to say top right. It's the only one that doesn't look partly curled.
@wackyskech Ай бұрын
I was thinking the same. No real reason just feels different.
@bristlyInnkeeper Ай бұрын
Close! It’s just a reel so hard to tell, but it’s bottom left.
@girthbrooks3640 Ай бұрын
The 9 pack bundle is not that expensive.
@oilydoubloonz6001 Ай бұрын
as a new player, i am curious as to what people are talking about when they mention old foils. what was different about them? at what point did they change?
@bristlyInnkeeper Ай бұрын
Old foils are basically just when the used to only foil the border. No art or text box foiling. They are especially vibrant and shiny. A tell tale is the shooting star they used to have. They call them ‘retro foils’ now,but they are not the same quality. I forget when they switched,but I think it was in the early 2000s. Good question!
@DrollerTroller 2 ай бұрын
A small addition: not all collector boosters are US printed. I ordered two displays of Bloomburrow recently, they were shipped from a US store in Florida and they both were JP printed.
@bristlyInnkeeper Ай бұрын
Very interesting! Thanks for sharing.
@matthewspadoni9017 2 ай бұрын
Single always
@DrollerTroller 2 ай бұрын
They are both bad T_T
@MM-ul1zi 2 ай бұрын
Police need to charge for copy it!!! Magic cards needs to take action against pirate s!!!!
@ArenaRat-xd8fu 2 ай бұрын
What about thinner font in the text box?
@bristlyInnkeeper 2 ай бұрын
Good question - It's not always indicative of a fake. Sometimes things like that may make you look twice at something which is then a good reason to check the green dot, borders, symbol, etc. But thinner text or smaller kerning is not indicative of a fake.
@norachapman3802 2 ай бұрын
Thanks for the video! Still have not even seen one in my area at all. There was exactly one, once but it was on hold. Had to make two decks myself to make up for it lol.
@bristlyInnkeeper 2 ай бұрын
Bummer! I'm sorry you couldn't score one before Duskmourn took over. I only see Duskmourn in my local shops now. Getting creative with new deck building is always the right move!
@TheBoxPounder 2 ай бұрын
My Double Masters 2022 Borderless Foils Pass every test besides the green dot test... The Red L or "7" is not present whatsoever in each of them. Should I be worried? It's a dockside extortionist and a mana drain so kind of expensive.
@bristlyInnkeeper 2 ай бұрын
It's all about the combination of tests. That said, the red dots in the green dot are almost always present. Do you have three dots instead of 4(the backwards 7 shape)? Any dots?
@TheBoxPounder 2 ай бұрын
@@bristlyInnkeeper thank you for the reply! There are almost no red dots. Only one present on each copy and you really have to strain your eyes under a loupe. The one thing throwing me off is the placement of the mountain on the green dot of my dockside extortionist is also off. The mountain is very close to the edge of the green dot to the point the dots lining the ridges going up the mountain fade into the black edges of the green dot.
@bristlyInnkeeper 2 ай бұрын
@@TheBoxPounder Hmm, hard to say honestly. If you want to send me high quality pictures on Twitter, I can check it out for you. I'll check some of my own Double Masters 2022 cards. Have you checked common indicators on the face like the stamp, black border, mana symbols and text? Ya, send me a photo or two on twitter if you want. Thanks.
@DerRusher 2 ай бұрын
The red "L" in the green dot (4 red dots) are also not present on some real cards...
@bristlyInnkeeper 2 ай бұрын
I've seen as few as two dots present with one very dim 3rd red dot, but never none. Would love to see some examples if you have them.
@iamLI3 2 ай бұрын
so it's impossible to test without a microscope , got it......
@theUglyGypsy 2 ай бұрын
Jewelers loops aren't just for diamond thieves and weed growers lol
@bristlyInnkeeper 2 ай бұрын
You can use your phone too as most modern phone's cameras are capable enough and everyone carries one.
@iamLI3 2 ай бұрын
@@bristlyInnkeeper i don't have a phone
@metamentality9818 3 ай бұрын
L A N D F A L L !
@bristlyInnkeeper 3 ай бұрын
I missed/messed up some of the triggers, but hopefully you still enjoyed it. :)
@nathanl6598 3 ай бұрын
Proxy cards have become either indistinguishable or in many cases better quality than authentic.
@bristlyInnkeeper 3 ай бұрын
Depends on how you view quality, but I would say fakes tend to be consistent in their quality since the idea is to fool the receiver. You don't want someone looking too close at a smudge or double printing/ light printing or other type of misprint.
@AirshipFury 3 ай бұрын
This is great info, but I'm color blind, so green and red are the same color in my eyes. Are there other ways to check?
@bristlyInnkeeper 3 ай бұрын
Good question! Outside of the colors in the dot, checking the shape of the green dot outline and the other methods I mentioned like the 'H' and double deckmaster border are good indicators I have found.
@saleen12 3 ай бұрын
If I trade for a damaged one ring how do they know I didn't just open it?
@bristlyInnkeeper 3 ай бұрын
I don't recommend doing that as it's dishonest, but I'll leave it up to you :)
@saleen12 3 ай бұрын
@@bristlyInnkeeper I would never, I'm just wondering how they prevent that. I guess it costs then nothing to print another copy
@cryonite9536 3 ай бұрын
Looking forward to that upgrade!
@bristlyInnkeeper 3 ай бұрын
Thank you! I filmed it this weekend so look for it next week!
@DuraheLL 3 ай бұрын
I bought a draft box of Wilds of Eldraine from Amazon and I felt they were really weird. The first thing that stuck me was how fragile the packs were. Breaking apart whilst opening them at the top. Felt strange and more plastic-y. Then I noticed the smell of the cards that smelled very strange. Like cleenex or very strong chemical smell. Then the cards felt a little rough on the sides, a little bit like sandpaper but very light, like a bit rough. I feel they are fake but I gotta buy one of those magnifiers to make sure I guess
@bristlyInnkeeper 3 ай бұрын
If you bought a box and it was sealed with the Wizards branding wrap it's very unlikely that the cards are actually fake. Some packs open easily, others open with more force. And the card texture can feel weird, but it's only due to variation in factories and quality these days. I wouldn't worry too much about it especially if it had the Wizards branding wrap around the box. If I can answer anymore questions to help I am happy to. Thanks!
@DuraheLL 3 ай бұрын
*Bootleggers watching this video for educational purposes* - "Ok thank you so much kind person, we will improve upon our fake cards from these lessons learned"
@bristlyInnkeeper 3 ай бұрын
These kinds of things will always be a lock and key race. It happens. The trick isn't to make a perfect clone of the product, but make it close enough that the majority of players won't know to look closer for the minute differences. The fake I received in the video is very, very good unless you looked closer that extra 10%.
@Varler_ 3 ай бұрын
Great video, thanks!
@bristlyInnkeeper 3 ай бұрын
Glad it was helpful! Thanks for watching.
@matt-lang 3 ай бұрын
WRT the green dot test, some of my legitimate Caverns of Ixalan cards (straight from a booster box) are closer to the "fake" cards than the real ones. I think we're very close to Wizards having to put an NFC tag in legitimate rares/mythics to avoid fakes.
@bristlyInnkeeper 3 ай бұрын
Yep, always use multiple forms of verification for best results!
@thatffxiguy 3 ай бұрын
Several of the tests you list as not indicative are effective on very old cards that were all printed in the same facility, for example the 'four horsemen' sets all had very small print runs from a single printer, so all the rosette patterns and card stock tests should match up. These became ineffective later on, when WotC started outsourcing the printing process to multiple printers, introducing more variance in processes and materials.
@DrollerTroller 3 ай бұрын
Hello from the republic of Kyrgyzstan!
@bristlyInnkeeper 3 ай бұрын
Hello and welcome!
@dough4prez 4 ай бұрын
I had no idea they're reproducing the "Wizards" within the holostamp. Wild! Great info and great video!
@massv953 4 ай бұрын
Get a loop, once you check out a few types of fakes they are pretty easy to spot. Shop owners SHOULD get to know this. That said the quality of reals is all over the place right now, alot of misprints, bad/missing holostamps or faded (end of print run) cards in packs. Some things I would have said were fake because of color etc in past are real now lol
@bristlyInnkeeper 4 ай бұрын
Yep, loupe is the way to go for fast on-hand verification.
@ditzykunoichi 4 ай бұрын
I've had a couple cards get rejected on TCGplayer because they were fake, but I had no idea. I only recently started trying to look into this, is it worth it to get a loupe and scale and all if I'm not dealing with cards over like $50 or $100 or something?
@bristlyInnkeeper 4 ай бұрын
I wouldn't worry about a scale, but each person has their own preference. I use a 5x-15x loupe and it works just fine for in-person verification. Everyone is different, but the tests I mention (green dot, hard/wobbly lines on back, and general black printing on face of card) are usually enough for me. Depending on your volume of cards, I would try to loupe anything over 5 dollars, but it's up to you. Most good proxies cost at least ~5 dollars to print per card, so most people will not be paying to proxy low value cards. Good questions!