That's not the picture of the championship Sonics.
@jasongibbs371317 күн бұрын
Allen Iverson was easily better than D Wade. Him and Kobe were the best guards in the 2000s. From this video it's obvious you weren't watching the NBA when AI played. Almost every take is wrong. It wasn't lack of spacing from 3pt shooters. Nobody on his team could shoot it score from any level. That's just one example
@MikeTheNBAGuy17 күн бұрын
@@jasongibbs3713 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
@doomnotron17 күн бұрын
Undeserved. Too many TOs, stat padding, and all of a sudden a 6th seed can qualify for MVp? They just did it to spite Durant.
@AllMediaReviewsPodcast19 күн бұрын
Iverson arguably had the quickest 1st step of any player ever.
@MikeTheNBAGuy19 күн бұрын
@@AllMediaReviewsPodcast Possibly yeah
@skipsmith812123 күн бұрын
They were called the bullets.
@TimothySkalmoski26 күн бұрын
This man has no idea what he’s talking about. First of all, comparing eras are impossible. Secondly, the 70s NBA players played every game possible without faking injuries due to the demanding regular schedule.
@MikeTheNBAGuy26 күн бұрын
@@TimothySkalmoski Name one player (besides Paul Pierce in the '08 finals when he shit his pants) who has faked an injury?
@LembeckIsStayingАй бұрын
Everybody is mad at this video, but someone/something has to be last place or "worst". - 60's was the mecca and the legend of the Lakers/Celtics - 80' was Bird/Magic nuff said. But you can add Detroit and a young Jordan - 90's. Jordan's Bulls, Dream Team, rise of Nike and the NBA Jam generation (me) - 2000's. Shaq and Kobe. Vince Carter, AI, young Lebron/Wade - 10's Lebron, Curry etc The only case to be made for worst era other than 70's is now, which ironically is also a very parity driven era. 5 different champs in 5 years since the Nuggets dropped the ball. It is what it is.
@leonjustleonАй бұрын
Hope you’re doing well man❤
@MikeTheNBAGuyАй бұрын
@@leonjustleon I am, thank you
@murrayclarke2171Ай бұрын
My absolute favourite
@HermaphroGynandroАй бұрын
I actually met the last guy to play their mascot Squatch. He's an awesome guy!
@Vgy926Ай бұрын
The photo isn’t of the 1979 team.
@UncleT4life2 ай бұрын
Greatest player ever bar none
@mobrown11982 ай бұрын
Jerry West was actually 6’4-6’5 and lightning quick. He was touching the top of the square in his mid 30’s(there is film) Oscar Robertson-6’5 220 pounds. Gus Johnson with his supreme athleticism standing 6-6/6’7 235 Archie Clark was doing modern style crossovers, super fast… Big 6’11 250 pound Walter Dukes raining jumpers from outside. lol. Yeah the reason why i mentioned these players is just to highlight, that humans haven’t really evolved like fans believe.~ moreover it has been the sport technology, and modern medicine that have changed more than the players have evolved… weight training and specialized training. Athletically, “humans” haven’t evolved in 60 years… evolution doesn’t work that way. The MEN were greater men… society was tougher… it just was. No doubt in my mind that many of these athletes could play in the modern game. Bill Russell, was a tremendous athlete, who could handle the ball and had hops~ plenty of film on him. If the players in the 60’s who by default of their era were “stronger men” had the same opportunities to capitalize off of modern sports technology … they would’ve assuredly been on par with the modern athlete. Without a doubt. There’s a video about an Olympic sprinter who ran under similar conditions of Jesse Owens in the 30’s… custom shoes for that era, dirt track… and the Olympic sprinter, performed worse than Owens “under the same conditions “ some 80 years later…. This same can be applied to basketball… guys played in Chuck Taylor’s, dimly lit Gyms, terrible flooring, tight baskets, heavier basketballs… in context they played under tougher conditions… If they were around today, with the benefit of modern gym shoes, modern gyms, break away rims… and if the players today had to play under the conditions the players in the 60’s did… Then their performance wouldn’t be as great as fans believe. Don’t get me started on the rule changes and how players of the 60’s- early 70’s were “handicapped” by the rules. I mentioned JJ
@Rayheem2 ай бұрын
Did I just hear you say Kareem is overrated? Sometimes I hate the internet.
@Rayheem2 ай бұрын
The 70s in NBA basketball was one of the greatest times. After the merger it was great the ABA gave the NBA so much good young talent. Saying that it was trash shows me you don't know anything about the NBA history. You don't mention Walt Frazier but you say Bill Walton was great in the 70s stop it.
@Sheogorath76762 ай бұрын
Yeah the quality of Bill Russells Celtics teams sans him is vastly overblown. People just bring up the number of “Hall of Famers” and not dig deeper into it.
@atlanta12902 ай бұрын
I can’t believe you said Kobe had the lowest peak amongst all time greats.
@MikeTheNBAGuy2 ай бұрын
@atlanta1290 Who would you put over him? I see a good case for him > Magic and KD but other than that, yeah worst peak of the top 15 OAT
@atlanta12902 ай бұрын
@@MikeTheNBAGuy it’s hard to compare Giannis to Magic. The latter being a scorer and Magic being playmaker. You also said Duncan had a higher peak than Giannis. Idk if I agree with that. Certainly Duncan was a better defender but he never commanded the triple team that Giannis does. Nor did Duncan ever match Gianni’s’ scoring output.
@MikeTheNBAGuy2 ай бұрын
@atlanta1290 The scoring gap between peak Duncan and MVP Giannis is pretty small when you consider how low scoring as a whole was in the early 2000s. Duncan led one of the best championship carryjobs OAT in 2003 and I'd absolutely say he was better than season than Giannis with his scoring and historic defense. Giannis' defense definitely gets overrated, he never should've won DPOY, and we've seen his scoring limited time and again in the playoffs
@MikeTheNBAGuy2 ай бұрын
@@atlanta1290 Magic's peak is mostly held back by being the worst defender in the top 15 besides Curry
@Sloan-n9q2 ай бұрын
2000s was such a great era yet none of these guys won anything when Jordan was in his absolute prime
@MikeTheNBAGuy2 ай бұрын
@BrianH-w8t The only player winning in the 2000s who was even in their early prime during the mid-90s was Shaq so, not really saying anything
@Sloan-n9q2 ай бұрын
@@MikeTheNBAGuy Shaq didn't win sh*t in the 90s either, so that's saying a lot.
@fbwkeezy3 ай бұрын
Why is this generation so mad at Iverson lol
@MikeTheNBAGuy3 ай бұрын
@fbwkeezy Cause we've spent our entire lives listening to the previous generation suck him off constantly
@terrancethomas97923 ай бұрын
The Warriors, Sonics, Blazers and Suns all went to the NBA Finals in the 70’s while the Lakers were finding themselves. They found themselves with Magic Johnson and dominated in the 80’s.
@drnockaable3 ай бұрын
Talking about Dumars showing MJ
@Tim_Dunkin4 ай бұрын
I agree except on the foul argument. There are ticky tack fouls but it seems like you're saying there are more fouls called today than past eras & that's not true. Ex. 90s they had less possessions & more fouls.
@MikeTheNBAGuy4 ай бұрын
@Tim_Dunkin Yeah I learned that after making this video. Just more "ticky tack" fouls, aka ones that really shouldn't be called
@abcdlilbit114 ай бұрын
This video is what’s wrong with modern NBA coverage. This guy sounds like he is in his 20s. Which means he didn’t watch a lot of these games. No! AI was not overrated. Just stop
@MikeTheNBAGuy4 ай бұрын
@@abcdlilbit11 If you have to have watched a player live to appreciate them, then they weren't that good to begin with
@stevedonikian52034 ай бұрын
I put the Supersonics at #2 all-time. I always loved Gus Williams. The most underappreciated Championship team is the 74-75 Golden State Warriors. A team that was supposed to be swepted by Washington & instead swept them. Seattle losing the Sonics is one of sports greatest travesties
@MikeTheNBAGuy4 ай бұрын
@stevedonikian5203 Definitely underappreciated, I just think they get more notice because of the insane Rick Barry carryjob
@stevedonikian52034 ай бұрын
no argument about Rick Barry but the Warriors used their entire 12 man roster. Rick Barry sat in game 7 of the Western finals when the Warriors made their comeback. Long live Downtown Freddie Brown & Slick Watts
@poppsosa62894 ай бұрын
Bill Russell overrated as hell.... Hes been Wallace not a top 10 player of all time
@MikeTheNBAGuy4 ай бұрын
@@poppsosa6289 🤡🤡🤡
@Phillygoat19835 ай бұрын
Imma new sub GO SIXERS
@HiNRGboy5 ай бұрын
The 80's are GOATED.. had the greatest amount of exciting players and every team had them. Jordan, Bird, Magic, Clyde, Hakeem, Dominique, Kareem, Moses, Doc, Ice, Skywalker, World Free, Dantley, B King, Isiah, Moncrief, T Cummings, Aguirre, etc I could go on and on and on
@MikeTheNBAGuy5 ай бұрын
@HiNRGboy I've got a seperate video making the case for the 80s 👍
@HiNRGboy5 ай бұрын
@@MikeTheNBAGuy Ohh ok, so which case do you believe is the strongest?
@MikeTheNBAGuy5 ай бұрын
@HiNRGboy Personally I think I'd say 2000s because I like the parity + talent and the way the game was played, especially in the 2nd half of the decade. 2020s is just getting started and it's definitely my favorite decade thus-far however.
@HiNRGboy5 ай бұрын
@@MikeTheNBAGuy You must be younger than me lol I'm 40 and lost interest in the NBA after the Kobe & Shaq Lakers won those titles. So I admit I'm biased towards the era I grew up with and enjoyed the most as a kid 80's and 90's 😆
@MikeTheNBAGuy5 ай бұрын
@HiNRGboy that's how most people are. I'm 23 and didn't really get into basketball until 6 years ago so I'm definitely biased towards the current era. It's got significant problems but the sheer depth of stars and the constant innovation of schemes has me hooked
@pjtheory5 ай бұрын
MIKE: It's important to note that Wilt Chamberlain has the highest T.P.A. or Total Production Average in playoff history. The T.P.A. is a combination of career average points, rebounds, and assists. Chamberlain has a career playoff T.P.A. of 51.2 which makes him the only NBA player to have a playoff T.P.A. of 50 or more. His T.P.A. would have been even more impressive if he played a majority of his playoff games when he was the league's most dominant scorer. Wilt led the league in scoring in his first 7 seasons and he led his team to the playoffs in 6 of those 7 seasons. In 6 post-season appearances, he played in 52 games and averaged 32.8 points, 26.6 rebounds, and shot .505 from the field in a league that shot .426 in that time span. No player in NBA history averaged 32 points and 26 rebounds in a single playoff series, yet Chamberlain averaged that over the course of TEN playoff series. In the last 7 seasons of his career, Wilt was asked to score less/pass more and to remain the greatest 7-foot rebounder and shot blocker in NBA history. In that time frame, Chamberlain played in 108 playoff games, he won 2 NBA titles, and his 67 76ers and 72 Lakers squads were arguably 2 of the 5 greatest teams (e.g., 67 76ers 46-4 to start the season, finished with a then record 68 wins, 72 Lakers won a record 33 straight games, finished with a then record 69 wins) in NBA history. Wilt would have been named the 67 Finals MVP if the award existed at the time and he was named the 72 Finals MVP. In terms of the playoff matchups (e.g., 49 playoff games) with Bill Russell, Wilt outscored/outrebounded Russell in all 8 playoff series... Russell 14.9 PTS 24.7 REBS Chamberlain 25.7 PTS 28.0 REBS ...and he almost carried his 62 and 65 Warrior/76er teams to victory over the heavily favored Celtics. In the 65 Eastern Finals, Wilt became the only NBA player to record a 30-30 (e.g., 30.1 points, 31.4 rebounds) in a playoff series. Not only did Chamberlain accomplish this against Russell, he scored the last 6 points of Game 7 to cut the Celtics lead to 1 point with 5 seconds left on the clock. Russell then hit a backboard support wire on an inbounds pass, but Havlicek stole a Hal Greer inbounds pass that ended the game.
@MikeTheNBAGuy5 ай бұрын
@pjtheory Very impressive, and yet he still consistently fell off in the postseason as a whole and disappeared in most big moments. A TPA of 51 sounds great until you realize his regular season TPA would be around 60. Consistently dropping around 10ppg every playoffs is putting your team at a massive disadvantage no matter how good your stats still look in a vacuum
@pjtheory5 ай бұрын
@@MikeTheNBAGuy You're certainly entitled to gloss over a majority of my post, but Wilt was THE reason that the Philadelphia/San Francisco Warriors were able to compete with the loaded Celtics squads from 1959-1967. The facts demonstrate that as a rookie, he was a monster (e.g., 53 points, 22 rebounds ) in the deciding Game 3 of the 1960 Eastern Division Playoffs, he outplayed Russell in the first 2 games (e.g., 42 points, 29 rebounds/29 points, 28 rebounds) of the 1960 Eastern Finals, but injured his shooting hand after punching Tom Heinsohn in the head at the end of Game 2. The Celtics won the next 2 games and took a 3-1 series lead. By Game 5, Wilt's hand had sufficiently healed and he destroyed Russell to the tune of 50 points and 35 rebounds. Russell then returned the favor by outplaying Chamberlain and the Celtics closed out the series in 6 games. By any measure, this was a fantastic rookie playoff run by the Big Dipper. In the 1961 playoffs, the Warriors were swept by the Nationals in 3 games and despite the gaudy (e.g., 37.0 points, 23.0 rebounds) numbers, Wilt had an average series. Chamberlain turned that around in the 1962 playoffs and was clutch when it mattered most. In the deciding Game 5 of the 1962 Eastern Division Playoffs, Chamberlain almost single handedly took apart the Nationals with an insane stat line of 56 points, 35 rebounds, and 12 blocked shots. In the 1962 Eastern Finals, the Celtics were heavy favorites over the Warriors, but Wilt's clutch play (e.g., Game 2 42 points, 37 rebounds, 5 assists/Game 4 41 points, 34 rebounds/Game 6 32 points, 21 rebounds) resulted in a Game 7 in the Boston Garden. Warrior coach Frank McGuire asked Wilt to concentrate on defense in Game 7, Chamberlain obliged with 14 blocked shots, and he also scored the teams last 5 points to tie the game at 107. Sam Jones hit a 20 foot jumper with 3 seconds left on the clock to win the game 109-107. Wilt continued to play lights out in the playoffs from 1964-1967. In the 1964 Western Division playoffs, the San Francisco Warriors defeated the St. Louis Hawks in 7 games and Chamberlain dominated (e.g., 38.5 points, 23.4 rebounds) future HOF center Zelmo Beaty. In the deciding Game 7, Wilt scored 39 points, he grabbed 30 rebounds, he dished out 6 assists, and he blocked 12 shots. In the 1964 NBA Finals, Chamberlain outplayed Russell (e.g., Russell 11.2 points, 25.2 rebounds, .385 FG% Chamberlain 29.2 points, 27.6 rebounds, .516 FG%), but the Celtics won the series in 5 games. In the 1965 Divisional playoffs, Wilt's 76ers defeated the Royals in 5 games and in the deciding Game 5, Chamberlain again put up cartoon-like (e.g., 38 points, 26 rebounds, 5 assists, 11 blocked shots) numbers. You now know that in the 1965 Eastern Finals, he kicked Bill Russell's ass, he scored the last 6 points of Game 7, and he became the ONLY player in NBA history to post a 30-30 (e.g., 30.1 points, 31.4 rebounds) in a playoff series. In the 1966 Eastern Finals, Wilt put up gaudy numbers (e.g., 28.0 points, 30.2 rebounds, .509 FG%), but lost in 5 games to the Celtics. This had similar feel to the 1961 playoff loss to the Nationals, so Chamberlain and his teammates proceeded to make NBA history in the 1966-1967 campaign. The 76ers won 46 of their first 50 games, they won a then record 68 games, and Wilt went on a historic playoff run. In 15 playoff games, Chamberlain averaged 21.7 points, 29.1 rebounds, 9.0 assists, and 9.2 blocked shots. His match-up with Russell in the 1967 Eastern Finals (e.g., Russell 11.4 points, 23.4 rebounds, FG% .358 Chamberlain 21.7 points, 32.0 rebounds, 10 assists, and .555 FG%) was no contest and if the award existed at the time, Wilt would have been named the NBA Finals MVP. The facts clearly demonstrate that for the most part, Wilt was a dominant AND clutch performer in the playoffs from 1959-1967. Chamberlain was fantastic in the 1968 Eastern Divisional Playoffs (e.g., 25.5 points, 24.2 rebounds, 6.3 assists, .584 FG%, 76ers won in 6 games), he played great in the first 5 games of the 1968 Eastern Finals, but Wilt and his 76er teammates played poorly in the final 2 games of the series. In the 1969 Divisional Playoffs, Wilt outplayed Nate Thurmond and the Lakers defeated the Warriors in 6 games. Chamberlain played even better (e.g., 19.2 points, 25.6 rebounds, .638 FG%) against Zelmo Beaty and the Lakers defeated the Hawks in 5 games. In the 1969 NBA Finals, Wilt was up and down in the series (e.g., for example...Game 1 15 points, 23 rebounds, 4 assists 12 blocked shots/Game 2 4 points, 19 rebounds, 4 assists) and the Lakers were upset by the aging Celtics in 7 games. In the 1960's, Wilt Chamberlain played in 18 playoff series, he was dominant in 13 playoff series, he was very good in the 1969 Western Divisional series, and average or above average in 4 playoff (e.g., 1961 Divisional Playoffs, 1966 Eastern Finals, 1968 Eastern Finals, and 1969 NBA Finals) series.
@peterdunnington60305 ай бұрын
Sorry, but your mispronounced names, lack of accurate data, and general lack of historical context completely excludes you from being taken as a serious analyst. Smdh, another keyboard warrior who's impressed with his own ignorance!!!
@Dre75 ай бұрын
Winning >>>>> being interesting
@4ktkaram3955 ай бұрын
They gave it to Kobe as a lifetime achievement award, should’ve been CP3.
@massimocometti65295 ай бұрын
The Lakers didn't make It to the Finals in 1981 and 1986
@dnm74995 ай бұрын
Dude your information is kind of inaccurate 1. Moses Malone reference about playing in the ABA - Moses Malone did play in the ABA 2. Joe Johnson did not play for the 79 Sonics, John Johnson on the other hand did play for the 79 Seattle Supersonics. 3. Game 10 of the 78-79 season Gus Williams scored 27 points against the New York Nets. When you do a research post please check to make sure your facts are correct, Please!!!!!!!
@andreaking92656 ай бұрын
Wow really not overrated at all number 1 to me
@joes11096 ай бұрын
I have to defend Ewing and him not getting far enough for you. In 1990, 1991, 1992, 1993, and 1994. Ewing and the Knicks were eliminated by the eventual NBA Champions. Pistons, Bulls x3, and the Rockets. And for his finals performance, Hakeem is just that good (as you know #8). He swept Shaq in the finals! 20+ years after retirement Ewing is still 26th all time in scoring(scoring has gotten easier), 25th in rebounding and 7th in blocked shots. He was injured for the 99 finals but instrumental in them getting there. He still lead the team in points, rebounds and blocks. He did what he did without another all-star teammate. In his entire career he never played with a 2x all star. Top 50 player easy. otherwise your list has way more hits than misses.
@MikeTheNBAGuy6 ай бұрын
@joes1109 He has massively risen in my eyes since making this videos, he's around #40 for me at this point. Definitely underrated him a few years ago
@joes11096 ай бұрын
@@MikeTheNBAGuy that sounds about right. It wasn't my comment that made you change your mind. what was it? research? also.... subscribed!
@MikeTheNBAGuy6 ай бұрын
@joes1109 More research, I hadn't looked enough into his career and stats before. He had great longevity as a superstar
@jamesoncross196 ай бұрын
Bill Russell is the most overrated player in the history of sports. He's listed as a top 5 player by a lot of pundits. In actuality, there are at least 50 players in the history of the NBA better than him. When we rank the greatest, we should acknowledge their era, but analyze how they'd measure up in any era. MJ, Kobe, LeBron, Hakeem, Kareem, Shaq, Curry, Duncan, etc would be MVP caliber players in any era.
@poppsosa62894 ай бұрын
Shit it's probably 200 players better than bill Russell... Ain't no difference between bill Russell and Dennis rodman
@tj51803 ай бұрын
Never talk about basketball. You seriously can’t come up with bullshi like this🤣🤣😂
@braziliantvhd27686 ай бұрын
Embiid Sixers era will be more forgotten
@braziliantvhd27686 ай бұрын
You mean 1978 Washington Bullets
@wesleyrhoten85056 ай бұрын
The video here encapsulates perfectly the strength of this team. Why did the Sonics win the title? . Envision- just as we see here in real time- a picture of Silas, Sikma, & Shelton in the air, surrounding the defensive rim. Freddie Brown's savvy play on both ends of the floor also jumps off the screen-
@anthonyrobinson-ew7hi6 ай бұрын
Where is gusto and dj in this picture
@JMC7866 ай бұрын
No way Wilt could bench 500 lbs., arms are too long
@robertburke22536 ай бұрын
A future Celtic and a former Celtic, Silas and DJ, not a bad combination at all!
@matthiasameer6 ай бұрын
Here because I was surprised to discover that the SuperSonics had a championship
@keenlazaga77556 ай бұрын
That in game necklace is dope 🔥
@wayneboulier61076 ай бұрын
Go back and do your research
@MichaelJordanFansAreTheBest6 ай бұрын
you lost me at LeBron is the smartest basketball player of all time. I was with you for most of your common takes, but the LeBron thing is so trash.
@CCTH2221-lp2zj6 ай бұрын
I fell in love with the NBA because of this team and their rivalry with the Bullets. Those consecutive finals were as intense as any in history🏀
@marklawrencefoster28956 ай бұрын
Hey Mike, you didn't mention DOWNTOWN FREDDY BROWN!
@JMC7866 ай бұрын
This guy is a fool! Some of the top players of all time played in the ‘70’s.
@sonic-qh7ed7 ай бұрын
the nba is crap now without seattle in no okc. isnt the supersonics